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Video Game Industry Thread: November's done, post in the new thread
cloudeagle
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Hi! Welcome to the video game industry thread. Here we discuss things like sales figures, game development, studio closures, executive quotes, marketing and general business stuff. Also poop jokes. And frequent references to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoCZ07hwoZ4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoCZ07hwoZ4
NPD Coverage: October 30 - November 26 (4 weeks)
Overall:
Total retail sales: $3 billion (+0.4%)
Total non-PC retail sales: $2.93 billion (-0.5%)
Total software: $1.74 billion (+16%)
Non-PC hardware: $982.4 million (-9%)
Non-PC software: $1.67 billion (+15%)
Accessories: $273.8 million (-34%)
http://www.gamespot.com/news/modern-...es-npd-6347394
Software:
1. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (360, PS3, WII, PC)** Activision Blizzard ~9 million
2. Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (360, PS3, PC)** Bethesda Softworks
3. Battlefield 3 (360, PS3, PC)** Electronic Arts
4. Assassin's Creed: Revelations (360, PS3, PC) Ubisoft - ~1.26 million
5. Just Dance 3 (Wii, 360) Ubisoft
6. Madden NFL 12 (360, PS3, Wii, PSP, PS2)** Electronic Arts
7. Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception (PS3)** Sony - 700k
8. Saints Row: The Third (360, PS3, PC)** THQ
9. The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword (WII) ** Nintendo
10. Batman: Arkham City (360, PS3, PC)** Warner Bros. Interactive
xx. Super Mario 3D Land (3DS) Nintendo - 625k
xx. Rayman Origins (WII, 360, PS3 not in order) Ubisoft - 50k
**(includes CE, GOTY editions, bundles, etc. but not those bundled with hardware)
Physical retail copies only.
Hardware
360 - 1.7 Million (+24%)
PS3 - 900K (+70%)
WII - 860k (-32%)
3DS - 795k
NDS - 350k (-77%)
Switch: 3947-4890-9293
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How big a deal did EA make about the free game, anyway?
Yeah, but the Kinect is still selling, and it only came out a year ago. I'm guessing 2012 announcement, 2013 launch.
I'll agree, in this case it's a little hard to say Pachter's a dillweed, especially since the 360 is still selling so well. And it's entirely possible that all the 720 rumors have come about due to Microsoft banging the "everything will run Windows 8" drum lately.
Then again there is the Wii U coming out. So who knows.
I've seen people swearing up and down that there's a dual GPU hexacore 8-Gig Nextbox coming out for christmas 2012, so I dunno.
We'll just have to wait a few months and see if there's anything unveiled at the, what was it speculated to be, the CES? Yeah, I'm withholding judgement for a couple of months still.
I don't think they're going to do it, but that's just me.
EDIT:
Also Pachter is a silly goose. I doubt there'll be another revision of the 360 before its successor launches. If so it'd have to be some kind of Windows 8 pack in deal with a Windows Phone or something, "get the entire MS package in a box!". That is something I can see happening if they want to push Win 8.
I got a little excited when I saw your ship.
(Please do not gift. My game bank is already full.)
On a slightly related note a Kinect is coming out for Windows 8. Sounds like it's being modified a bit to work well with the up close and personal nature of PCs. Hopefully if they want to bring all their stuff together this version will also be the one for the next XBox.
Kinect to get its own specific downloadable game service, calling it now. If they're serious about putting it on the PC they might as well moneyhat some smaller devs to start making some titles for it on the 360 as well as the PC. It'd be a fairly sizeable incentive to own a Kinect.
Did we ever talk about the confirmation of Metal Gear Solid 5 by the way? I can't remember. Because if we did, I'm sort of certain that we didn't talk about how it's not actually confirmed to be in development.
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/11/21/kojima-on-mgs5-well-probably-have-to-make-it-at-some-point/
I got a little excited when I saw your ship.
I guess they could do another Big Boss game set in the past, but I don't know.
I'd totally pay cash money for a Metal Gear Solid 5: Rat Patrol or a next gen remake of Metal Gear though.
Ooooh boy, this is going to be good.
By which I of course mean ololololololol
And used costing more than new? WTF?
Because I live in Bumfucknowhere, WA, and the Gamestop in Spanaway is my only real option for cheap games besides buying used Blockbuster games or waiting for the Wal-Mart $20 section.
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You have no postal service? You believe Gamestop sell used games cheaper than EBay?
Amazon or other online retailers?
For anything shortly after that timeframe, I can most often easily go to Futureshop - another brick and mortar store - to acquire it.
Anything harder to find after that, then I'll either use Amazon, or Gamestop. Since at that point, I'm more than happy to get a used copy.
So yes. Brick and mortar stores still have a fucking place in the world. Can we put this damn opinion to rest, along with the ubiquitous digital distribution pipedream?
So, gamestop and similar still lose out in my opinion, as most don't even have games the first day they are out. Again, this doesn't count if they are AAA titles of course.
I've only ever had release day shipping on Amazon not pan out once, and that was probably more because the UPS dude flaked out and didn't even try delivering it.
The only thing that amazes me about that?
The fact none of us thought they might do it in the first place.
I mean what else do we expect from them?
Well bully for your Amazon. My Amazon does not offer day 1 shipping. Nor does it offer any preorder bonuses that the US version does. If I want the game as soon as possible, I can shell out 10 bucks for express shipping, and it'll still at best get here a day or two after launch. And I have zero faith US Amazon can get my game to me across the border on day 1. End result: I'm waiting a week for anything I order from them. During that timeframe, I can go to any brick and mortar shop in this city and simply buy the game right there. And for cheaper too if one factors in shipping costs.
Yes B&M has a place but don't fool yourself that that place is anything other than sacrificing the best deal for the ability to have something now with no forward planning.
Yeah. This reeks of misleading. And for the first time, the FIRST TIME, I feel for publishers striking back against used game sales, because this is going to really hurt new game sales.
... Which is funny, because Gamestop needs to sell a game new before it can be sold used...
Really? Because I'm either paying for shipping when ordering online, or I'm waiting longer than usual, or I'm paying exchange rates and duty if I order from a US site.
I am actively paying more for worse service. I can go down the street and pay less.
Let me just make things clear though. I love Amazon, and I like ordering stuff online. However, the majority of that stuff is for stuff I simply can't find in the shops here. In that case, I'm more than happy to wait, or pay for shipping, and all that jazz. It's for the recent stuff that it serves no point. If I really want the game now... I'll go and get the game now. Why should I pay more to wait longer?
It doesn't help that I work on Tuesdays and don't get done till 6, don't have a car, and need to be in bed between 10 and 12 to get up at 6 AM the next morning.. Yay public transportation!
I think it's a shitty stupid move. But I think ultimately it won't really have an effect on me. If I want something day 1, I'll likely preorder it from Gamestop if the bonus is good, so there's no worry there. Otherwise, Futureshop/Best Buy here always have the game. For most everything else, I'd probably take the used copy anyways. Unless it's a project $10 game, then I'll make sure I'm getting a new copy from them.
It's stupid, and it's going to force me to pay attention if and when I'm ever in there. But at least I'm smart enough to handle it.
The really shitty thing about this is that Canadian Gamestop's were by and large a whole lot better than American ones, at least if the horror stories everyone posts here are anything to go by.
I'm going to join in the chorus of love for Amazon. Buying used games off of Amazon is actually a lot better deals than Gamestop and it only takes $25 for free shipping.
Also, many of the used games come from affiliates so you are benefiting small businesses.
Perhaps its a local thing then. In the UK it is pretty much a guarantee that even taking postage into consideration any given game is going to be cheaper or equivalent online compared to in store. Sometimes from the same retailer!
It's mainly a competition thing I think. There are more online retailers than there are high street ones and it is much easier to compare prices and find the cheapest.
They already do this though... they already use the same white labels but it says >NEW< or >USED< on them. Merging the two sections is kind of stupid, but as long as people look at what they're buying, this shouldn't be an issue.
At my Gamestop they were yellow for used.
As far as Amazon.ca works, there's free shipping (on orders over $25, which any game will qualify for), but it's 4-7 days delivery. And typically for me, straight across the country. With no mail service at all on weekends. So the game will probably come sometime next week. There's express shipping, which is 2-3 days, but it's $13. And the game still only gets there at best by Thursday. And all this is actually assuming the thing actually ships out that Tuesday. And like I said, no day-1 shipping option ever, so out the plant on Tuesday is the best case scenario.
So again, the end result is either I'm paying exactly the same as a B&M, but with a week's wait, or $13 extra, and I'm still waiting a few days. In both cases I'm better served just stopping at the mall that day and buying the game right there.
I'm glad Amazon works for you lot. Up here though, it doesn't. And brick and mortar stores still have a very large and important place. Which is why it grinds my gears when people ignorantly say "hurr y u not bying online".
I have to do a lot of scouring through EB Games stores and the local mom n pops (thankfully we still have a few of those in Toronto) in order to get affordable games. Hell, sometimes I could buy games cheaper from Amazon.com even with shipping charges and duty, except companies won't allow Amazon.com to ship most games to Canada because they'd rather gouge for them up here instead. Especially Nintendo. I hate you, Nintendo.
Basically, living in Canada is a big reason why Steam is my bestest bestest buddy even though I own all the consoles. If a game is multiplat these days, I go PC all the way. It's the only way for me to get close to the kinds of pricing that US residents enjoy.