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  • Steel AngelSteel Angel Registered User regular
    So Scimitars were the first weapons I picked up besides the iron crap you get in the tutorial.
    They're legendary right now and only need steel ingots to improve should I choose to do so. I thought to myself, "there is no way that these simple weapons could be end-game viable".

    But they are

    Looking up the base damage, it looks like only Daedric, Ebony, and Glass will ever outdamage them.
    Since I went up the left side of the smith tree, only Glass can actually out damage them.
    DAMMIT.

    I only grabbed two smithing perks to be able to upgrade enchanted items for my thief. Which means I get the steel upgrades. The akavari style swords you can find are like the scimitars: nice since they do more base damage than normal steel swords but benefit from the same perk. They also actually look like real swords. Most other swords look like fantasy frat paddles with a point end added. The downside is that they still sometimes do the stealth kill animation the double edged swords do: using the backside of the sword to cut the victim's throat even though it's rather blunt on the curved swords.
    Frei wrote:
    SniperGuy wrote:
    Elendil wrote:
    one thing I like about skyrim

    you definitely get the goods for being evil

    I seem to have inadvertently descended into demon worship

    I feel like there actually aren't many opportunities to be good. A lot of the quests are steered towards evil, especially the thieves guild and the Dark Brotherhood. Why can't we have a paladin guild or something? I don't feel any incentive to not be evil.

    The reward for being evil is power and glory. The reward for being good is dick all in terms of material goods but the knowledge that you can sleep at night because you have not been evil.

    Sounds pretty true to life to me.

    Except this doesn't translate to video games at all. There should be rewards for being either one.

    There are. There are plenty of quests that aren't really in line with what an evil character would do. The rewards are not necessarily symmetrical. As an example callous character isn't going to run around helping out the people of a city to earn the right to buy property. It's the totally mercenary character that really gets all the rewards. Which suits the game just fine really since many if not all of the historical heroes of note in the setting were never totally good, just driven.

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  • Renegade WolfRenegade Wolf Registered User regular
    Most of the guards in Riften decided to chase me into the thieves guild for a minor act of theft.

    It resulted in a massive battle with all the thieves and about 12 guards. It was a tough fight but in the end we triumphed.
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    As I result I have an 8000 gold bounty in the Rift.

  • lu tzelu tze Sweeping the monestary steps.Registered User regular
    Maz- wrote:
    Pro tip: even if it may seem like a good idea at the time, don't use the Storm Call shout during one of the civil war quests.
    I literally wiped out our whole force including Lydia while it didn't seem to affect the enemy much, leading to 10 angry Imperials beating my sorry ass.
    In the beginning scene, I like to pretend that it wasn't the Imperials who gagged Ulfric...

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  • MorkathMorkath Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    lu tze wrote:
    Maz- wrote:
    Pro tip: even if it may seem like a good idea at the time, don't use the Storm Call shout during one of the civil war quests.
    I literally wiped out our whole force including Lydia while it didn't seem to affect the enemy much, leading to 10 angry Imperials beating my sorry ass.
    In the beginning scene, I like to pretend that it wasn't the Imperials who gagged Ulfric...

    So on that note...
    Why doesn't ulfric shout during his battle when you go to take over his town?

  • KlykaKlyka DO you have any SPARE BATTERIES?Registered User regular
    Morkath wrote:
    lu tze wrote:
    Maz- wrote:
    Pro tip: even if it may seem like a good idea at the time, don't use the Storm Call shout during one of the civil war quests.
    I literally wiped out our whole force including Lydia while it didn't seem to affect the enemy much, leading to 10 angry Imperials beating my sorry ass.
    In the beginning scene, I like to pretend that it wasn't the Imperials who gagged Ulfric...

    So on that note...
    Why doesn't ulfric shout during his battle when you go to take over his town?
    He does when you are with the Stormcloaks and attack Solitude.

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  • PaperPrittPaperPritt Registered User regular
    The end of the DB questline was just so good. And yes, i also did the last request
    i thought we had a deaaaaal, heh heh.
    .

    Question though: are the subsequents quest generated automatically ? is there an end to them at some point, or do the rewards at least get bigger ? It's a good way to make money.... but at this point i really don't need gold anymore, so unless it ramps up significantly i'm not sure why i would bother.

  • SeguerSeguer of the Void Sydney, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    PaperPritt wrote:
    The end of the DB questline was just so good. And yes, i also did the last request
    i thought we had a deaaaaal, heh heh.
    .

    Question though: are the subsequents quest generated automatically ? is there an end to them at some point, or do the rewards at least get bigger ? It's a good way to make money.... but at this point i really don't need gold anymore, so unless it ramps up significantly i'm not sure why i would bother.

    Hahahah I loved his final words too :D

  • MorkathMorkath Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    PaperPritt wrote:
    The end of the DB questline was just so good. And yes, i also did the last request
    i thought we had a deaaaaal, heh heh.
    .

    Question though: are the subsequents quest generated automatically ? is there an end to them at some point, or do the rewards at least get bigger ? It's a good way to make money.... but at this point i really don't need gold anymore, so unless it ramps up significantly i'm not sure why i would bother.
    We did have a deal. To kill the emporer, which i did. Now I am killing you.
    Next time be more careful in your wording of the deal, ohoho.

  • SarksusSarksus ATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered User regular
    Man, waiting until level 22 to do Labrynthian might have been a mistake. Kind of anti-climatic.

  • korodullinkorodullin What. SCRegistered User regular
    Sarksus wrote:
    Man, waiting until level 22 to do Labrynthian might have been a mistake. Kind of anti-climatic.

    How so? I wasn't far off from that level, and the final boss was a doozy for me.

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  • SarksusSarksus ATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered User regular
    edited November 2011
    korodullin wrote:
    Sarksus wrote:
    Man, waiting until level 22 to do Labrynthian might have been a mistake. Kind of anti-climatic.

    How so? I wasn't far off from that level, and the final boss was a doozy for me.
    Well it helps that by the time I finally did Labrynthian (I heard it was hard so I wanted to wait) I had moved away from magic and used a shield and mace so anything this dude did to my mana I gave no damns about. So I casted a Call to Arms scroll on Lydia, casted Oakflesh on myself, summoned a storm atronach and then whacked at the boss with my health stealing sword until he died. That was it. I am playing on normal, though.

    Specific quest spoilers:
    Then when the Thalmor arrived I was like you idiot, and then killed him with flame breath and one hit of my sword.

    Sarksus on
  • TalithTalith 変態という名の紳士 Miami, FLRegistered User regular
    So I just downloaded the game and am looking at the list of mods in the OP.

    The Large Address Aware mod is no longer functional it seems as it's author took it down. Does that mean the memory issue it resolves was fixed or did a patch break it and he is removing it until he works on it?

    Is that list up to date?

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  • mojojoeomojojoeo A block off the park, living the dream.Registered User regular
    Kinda mad you cannot just kill
    maven
    in riften.

    She's essential. :/

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  • mojojoeomojojoeo A block off the park, living the dream.Registered User regular
    Talith wrote:
    So I just downloaded the game and am looking at the list of mods in the OP.

    The Large Address Aware mod is no longer functional it seems as it's author took it down. Does that mean the memory issue it resolves was fixed or did a patch break it and he is removing it until he works on it?

    Is that list up to date?

    Play it raw once dude. Its actually pretty delicious without the extra toppings this time.

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  • BethrynBethryn Unhappiness is Mandatory Registered User regular
    Talith wrote:
    The Large Address Aware mod is no longer functional it seems as it's author took it down. Does that mean the memory issue it resolves was fixed or did a patch break it and he is removing it until he works on it?
    Steam patched the Skyrim exe so it can no longer be made LAA. So you have to grab the older version of the exe if you want to make it LAA. I think there's one on nexus?

    ...and of course, as always, Kill Hitler.
  • EnigEnig a.k.a. Ansatz Registered User regular
    So far without the LAA, I have had some texture glitches, and possibly performance hits (hard to tell), but no crashes yet. I hope Bethesda just patches it themselves. I don't see why they wouldn't.

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  • sumwarsumwar Registered User regular
    so I haven't played this game yet but it sounds like finding a place to store your goods is hard to find. Are there any well known places to store your goods that won't disappear after placing them in said storage after X hours?

  • TalithTalith 変態という名の紳士 Miami, FLRegistered User regular
    mojojoeo wrote:
    Talith wrote:
    So I just downloaded the game and am looking at the list of mods in the OP.

    The Large Address Aware mod is no longer functional it seems as it's author took it down. Does that mean the memory issue it resolves was fixed or did a patch break it and he is removing it until he works on it?

    Is that list up to date?

    Play it raw once dude. Its actually pretty delicious without the extra toppings this time.

    Not planning on changing the gameplay or numbers in anyway on the first run. :^:

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  • TzenTzen Registered User regular
    sumwar wrote:
    so I haven't played this game yet but it sounds like finding a place to store your goods is hard to find. Are there any well known places to store your goods that won't disappear after placing them in said storage after X hours?

    When you get your first housecarl (slave) like an hour into the game, you can just use her as a glorified storage chest and not have her come with you if you don't want her to possibly die.

  • EnigEnig a.k.a. Ansatz Registered User regular
    sumwar wrote:
    so I haven't played this game yet but it sounds like finding a place to store your goods is hard to find. Are there any well known places to store your goods that won't disappear after placing them in said storage after X hours?

    In any of the houses you can purchase, there are multiple safe storage containers.

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  • Fartacus_the_MightyFartacus_the_Mighty Brought to you by the letter A.Registered User regular
  • mojojoeomojojoeo A block off the park, living the dream.Registered User regular
    Hold up. Main quest discussions.
    I have to fight/defeat a dragon who was such a bad ass that the way old people could find no solution to defeat him other than to toss his ass through time and hope he lands someplace not near them?

    Boy they really ask a lot of you.

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  • XagarXagar Registered User regular
    Hilariously, after waiting a bit to speed up my initiation at High Hrothgar, a high-level hired thug came bursting out of the door with the Greybeards, who promptly hit him with level 3 Ice Form. Once it worse off I hit him a couple times and then he got blasted away by an ice breath.

    "This'll teach you to take things that don't belong to you!"

  • AntihippyAntihippy Registered User regular
    edited November 2011
    Today a fugitive pulled me away from a fight against a dragon so that I can hold onto something and that killed me.

    Also this happened.

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    I love skyrim.

    Also what's up with:
    headless horseman at dragonsbridge.

    Not even sure if it's a spoiler really.

    Antihippy on
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  • BeastehBeasteh THAT WOULD NOT KILL DRACULARegistered User regular

    I DRINK

    YOUR

    MILKSHAKE

  • GoodKingJayIIIGoodKingJayIII They wanna get my gold on the ceilingRegistered User regular
    I was running around Blackreach fighting my way through falmer and giants when J'zargo simply vanished. Like, one minute we were fighting stuff, the next he was gone. I felt kinda bad about that, mostly because he was carrying a lot of valuable stuff. Maybe I'll go back down there and look for him.

    I have a pretty bad track record with companions. I really don't know why anyone would follow me anywhere.

    I did craft a bunch of really nice gear for my Markarth housecarl, though. He looks pretty badass, but I think it's only a matter of time before he bites it.

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  • ArchonexArchonex No hard feelings, right? Registered User regular
    edited November 2011
    I just beat the main quest.

    Holy shit. That more then made up for Oblivions shitty ending.

    Also: (Possible expansion spoilers;)
    Parthunax: Savor your triumph, Dovahkiin. This is not the last of which you will write upon the currents of time.

    Archonex on
  • korodullinkorodullin What. SCRegistered User regular
    Antihippy wrote:
    Today a fugitive pulled me away from a fight against a dragon so that I can hold onto something and that killed me.

    Also this happened.

    2011-11-25_00001.jpg

    I love skyrim.

    Also what's up with:
    headless horseman at dragonsbridge.

    Not even sure if it's a spoiler really.

    That can be fixed by taking off either the Dragon Priest mask you're wearing, or changing robes.

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  • AntihippyAntihippy Registered User regular
    I fixed it by reloading, which isn't too bad.

    I wouldn't mind going through the game headless actually.

    Also I would like to know if anyone knows anything about my spoiler.

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  • mojojoeomojojoeo A block off the park, living the dream.Registered User regular
    Antihippy wrote:
    I fixed it by reloading, which isn't too bad.

    I wouldn't mind going through the game headless actually.

    Also I would like to know if anyone knows anything about my spoiler.

    yup f5 f9 fixed!

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  • XagarXagar Registered User regular

    Youtube video is uploading.

  • RadioElectricRadioElectric Registered User regular
    Xagar wrote:

    Youtube video is uploading.
    Doctor...
    Octa...
    Gonagus!
    Bwaaaaa!

  • XagarXagar Registered User regular
    You gotta think bigger. I'm envisioning a slew of shout overhaul mods that replace every shout in the game.

    Well, maybe just Throw Voice...and maybe not the whisper one.

  • korodullinkorodullin What. SCRegistered User regular
    While on a nostalgia trip talk with someone about Morrowind, I remembered the Medium armor set I used on my Argonian spear-user who joined the Legion, which was the only character I've ever taken through all of Morrowind (base game and both expansions) in one go:
    FirstGuardArmourpic01.jpg

    I sorely wish there was a Skyrim version.

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  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    So Scimitars were the first weapons I picked up besides the iron crap you get in the tutorial.
    They're legendary right now and only need steel ingots to improve should I choose to do so. I thought to myself, "there is no way that these simple weapons could be end-game viable".

    But they are

    Looking up the base damage, it looks like only Daedric, Ebony, and Glass will ever outdamage them.
    Since I went up the left side of the smith tree, only Glass can actually out damage them.
    DAMMIT.

    I only grabbed two smithing perks to be able to upgrade enchanted items for my thief. Which means I get the steel upgrades. The akavari style swords you can find are like the scimitars: nice since they do more base damage than normal steel swords but benefit from the same perk. They also actually look like real swords. Most other swords look like fantasy frat paddles with a point end added. The downside is that they still sometimes do the stealth kill animation the double edged swords do: using the backside of the sword to cut the victim's throat even though it's rather blunt on the curved swords.
    Frei wrote:
    SniperGuy wrote:
    Elendil wrote:
    one thing I like about skyrim

    you definitely get the goods for being evil

    I seem to have inadvertently descended into demon worship

    I feel like there actually aren't many opportunities to be good. A lot of the quests are steered towards evil, especially the thieves guild and the Dark Brotherhood. Why can't we have a paladin guild or something? I don't feel any incentive to not be evil.

    The reward for being evil is power and glory. The reward for being good is dick all in terms of material goods but the knowledge that you can sleep at night because you have not been evil.

    Sounds pretty true to life to me.

    Except this doesn't translate to video games at all. There should be rewards for being either one.

    There are. There are plenty of quests that aren't really in line with what an evil character would do. The rewards are not necessarily symmetrical. As an example callous character isn't going to run around helping out the people of a city to earn the right to buy property. It's the totally mercenary character that really gets all the rewards. Which suits the game just fine really since many if not all of the historical heroes of note in the setting were never totally good, just driven.

    Yeah but there's no incentive to not do them unless you're "roleplaying."

    A single character can complete every quest in the game (with the exception of picking sides in the war I suppose) and will come out as a fairly evil sonofabitch. Doing an evil quest does not preclude you from doing a good quest most of the time. Some sort of Templar assassinkiller quest chain would have been cool or something. In Oblivion if you were evil you had to go cleanse yourself to do the "good" quests at least. Even the Companions aren't really a "good" organization.

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  • chocoboliciouschocobolicious Registered User regular
    korodullin wrote:
    While on a nostalgia trip talk with someone about Morrowind, I remembered the Medium armor set I used on my Argonian spear-user who joined the Legion, which was the only character I've ever taken through all of Morrowind (base game and both expansions) in one go:
    FirstGuardArmourpic01.jpg

    I sorely wish there was a Skyrim version.

    Dragooooooooooooooooooooooooooon

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  • BigDesBigDes Registered User regular
    That sure is a Morrowind screen shot

    I do not remember the game being that ugly

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  • Guitar Hero Of TimeGuitar Hero Of Time Registered User regular
    SniperGuy wrote:

    *snip*

    Yeah but there's no incentive to not do them unless you're "roleplaying."

    A single character can complete every quest in the game (with the exception of picking sides in the war I suppose) and will come out as a fairly evil sonofabitch. Doing an evil quest does not preclude you from doing a good quest most of the time. Some sort of Templar assassinkiller quest chain would have been cool or something. In Oblivion if you were evil you had to go cleanse yourself to do the "good" quests at least. Even the Companions aren't really a "good" organization.

    Wait wait wait. Are you trying to tell me, that the experience you get playing this roleplaying game depends on if and how you roleplay?

    Way to fuck up, Bethesda.

  • korodullinkorodullin What. SCRegistered User regular
    edited November 2011
    Eh. Aside from character heads I never found Morrowind particularly offensive visually. Hell, I never even used Better Bodies for a looooong time.

    But still, it's a nearly ten year old game whose original release date was supposed to be 1997.

    korodullin on
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  • chocoboliciouschocobolicious Registered User regular
    BigDes wrote:
    That sure is a Morrowind screen shot

    I do not remember the game being that ugly

    Ugly? man that was awesome for the time. Also the locations made up for it. The people did age pretty terribly.

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