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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Also, what the hell is a "street fighter experience"?

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • ChimeraChimera Monster girl with a snek tail and five eyes Bad puns, that's how eye roll. Registered User regular
    I told you my exact experience. I did not notice any of those things. I did not expect a tornado, I woke up 10 minutes before it OBLITERATED MY HOUSE.

    I did not take tornados seriously and probably still won't.

    Because they do not hit often enough to waste time worrying.

    Not to scare you but, Tuscaloosa County has a fairly active history with tornadoes.

    Time sampled
    1952-02-13 through 2009-05-06

    Number of confirmed tornadoes
    61

    Number of fatalities
    107 people

    Number of fatalities from deadliest single tornado
    58 people

    Injuries
    1206 people
    Most injuries related to one tornado
    518 people

    Longest path of single tornado
    202 miles

    Widest tornado path in sample
    2000 feet

    2 F5/EF5 tornadoes 2 F4/EF4 tornadoes

    The stats above do not account for the tornadoes this year.

    With the new warning system (the polygonal warning system) I would start taking tornadoes more seriously. If you want I can do pinpoint warnings for you and let you know if you should seriously be concerned or not in future cases.

  • NogsNogs Crap, crap, mega crap. Crap, crap, mega crap.Registered User regular
    Also, what the hell is a "street fighter experience"?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlhOUyy4wbs

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Actually it's quite common for people to feel detached and calm during a life threatening event, and only be disturbed by it looking back.

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    Thanks nogs.

  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    (also sorry munkus if I became the "this is what YOU must be feeling" guy)

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Druhim wrote:
    Actually it's quite common for people to feel detached and calm during a life threatening event, and only be disturbed by it looking back.

    Story of my life.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2011
    I don't live in Tuscaloosa County any longer, for one.

    For two, it's about once ever 10 years that a tornado hits and does real significant damage.

    Which is what I'm basing my thought processes around.

    I don't know if you lived in the South very often, but given how often we get Tornado warnings around here, losing a lot of sleep or productivity over once every 10 years is bad math.

    EDIT: It's ok Blake, all is forgiven. Really it's just a surreal thing because I didn't have any time to prepare for it or be worried. It was over, I crawled out of the wreckage and moved forward before I had any time to process what was going on. I was asleep less than ten minutes before the zero hour (and probably would have died but for that ONE text message which woke me up) so my brain wasn't fully awake.

    At least I got a story out of it for my memoirs.

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  • ChimeraChimera Monster girl with a snek tail and five eyes Bad puns, that's how eye roll. Registered User regular
    I don't live in Tuscaloosa County any longer, for one.

    For two, it's about once ever 10 years that a tornado hits and does real significant damage.

    Which is what I'm basing my thought processes around.

    I don't know if you lived in the South very often, but given how often we get Tornado warnings around here, losing a lot of sleep or productivity over once every 10 years is bad math.

    EDIT: It's ok Blake, all is forgiven. Really it's just a surreal thing because I didn't have any time to prepare for it or be worried. It was over, I crawled out of the wreckage and moved forward before I had any time to process what was going on. I was asleep less than ten minutes before the zero hour (and probably would have died but for that ONE text message which woke me up) so my brain wasn't fully awake.

    At least I got a story out of it for my memoirs.

    Where are you now? I live in Arkansas most of my life so I have been in the southeast for a long time. I also typically am in the south during most major tornado days. The problem with that part of the country is that it is much harder there for a spotter and chaser to help. The terrain is not as flat, the road network is not grided and largely doesn't exist like it does in the plains, and there are way to many trees making it really hard for us to see things well. This results in the local WFOs of the NWS having to rely almost solely on radar products for their warning issuance and thus you get a higher rate of false alarms.

    There are still a lot of limitations to what we can do with radars and with how many we can place across the country as well as with what we actually know about tornadoes that prevent us from being able to raise the accuracy of warnings in areas that do not have the spotter network that the plains does.

  • ButlerButler 89 episodes or bust Registered User regular
    Also, what the hell is a "street fighter experience"?

    It's a theme park ride. It's like a ghost train except the people who jump out at you are dressed as SF characters and they really do beat the shit out of you.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I live in Huntsville, Alabama (really Madison, but w/e)

    It's rather hilly around here and we get sirens all the time.

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  • ChimeraChimera Monster girl with a snek tail and five eyes Bad puns, that's how eye roll. Registered User regular
    edited November 2011
    I live in Huntsville, Alabama (really Madison, but w/e)

    It's rather hilly around here and we get sirens all the time.

    I've been to there many times. One of the largest commercial retailers of radar systems to TV stations and privet parties is based their. They go their start in response to a powerful F4 that rolled through Huntsville. If I recall properly, Huntsville has been hit by numerous tornadoes in the past coupe of years.

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  • hoodie13hoodie13 punch bro Registered User regular
    I don't know, maybe it's just me

    But it sounds like you want him to be terrified?

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  • JunpeiJunpei Registered User regular
    Chimera is just really excited about extreme weather, to the dismay of anyone else who has experienced it : b

    The passion for it is pretty admirable : )

  • JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    Junpei wrote:
    Chimera is just really excited about extreme weather, to the dismay of anyone else who has experienced it : b

    The passion for it is pretty admirable : )

    The Weather Channel people are the same way, super excited when a hurricane comes baring down on Louisiana.

  • QuestionMarkManQuestionMarkMan Registered User regular
    Locked up in the bowels of the medical faculty building here and accessible to only a handful of scientists lies a man-made flu virus that could change world history if it were ever set free.

    The virus is an H5N1 avian influenza strain that has been genetically altered and is now easily transmissible between ferrets, the animals that most closely mimic the human response to flu. Scientists believe it's likely that the pathogen, if it emerged in nature or were released, would trigger an influenza pandemic, quite possibly with many millions of deaths.

    .............

    NSABB chair Paul Keim, a microbial geneticist, says he cannot discuss specific studies but confirms that the board has "worked very hard and very intensely for several weeks on studies about H5N1 transmissibility in mammals." The group plans to issue a public statement soon, says Keim, and is likely to issue additional recommendations about this type of research. "We'll have a lot to say," he says.

    "I can't think of another pathogenic organism that is as scary as this one," adds Keim, who has worked on anthrax for many years. "I don't think anthrax is scary at all compared to this."

    Some scientists say that's reason enough not to do such research. The virus could escape from the lab, or bioterrorists or rogue nations could use the published results to fashion a bioweapon with the potential for mass destruction, they say. "This work should never have been done," says Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist at Rutgers University in Piscataway, New Jersey, and the Howard Hughes Medical Institute who has a strong interest in biosecurity issues.
    Link

  • TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    well that sounds responsible

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  • ChimeraChimera Monster girl with a snek tail and five eyes Bad puns, that's how eye roll. Registered User regular
    JoeUser wrote:
    Junpei wrote:
    Chimera is just really excited about extreme weather, to the dismay of anyone else who has experienced it : b

    The passion for it is pretty admirable : )

    The Weather Channel people are the same way, super excited when a hurricane comes baring down on Louisiana.

    You make it sound like I cheer for storms to cause death and destruction which couldn't be further from the truth. I'd much rather for the storm to happen far from a populated area and hit nothing than for it to do damage but if the storm has hit a populated area I do want to learn as much as I can about the event so that I may learn what has happened and how it effected those impacted as well as how they reacted during and after the storm in hopes that knowledge will help others in the future. Futhermore the fact you think I may be trying to overhype the severity of tornadoes in the SE for ratings purposes is also simply not true. I am just trying to point out how serious tornadoes can be and the fact that they are a bit more comon than one may think they are in that part of the country.

    In other science news....

    CME IMPACT: The coronal mass ejection (CME), that I mentioned in an earlier post, hit Earth's magnetic field at approximately 2145 UT on Nov. 28th. The impact was relatively weak and did not spark a strong geomagnetic storm, so the chance of getting any real abnormal aruora activity or a migration of the aruoras towards the equator is not likely to happen as of now. Better luck next time!

  • NogsNogs Crap, crap, mega crap. Crap, crap, mega crap.Registered User regular
    TheStig wrote:
    well that sounds responsible

    i mean yeah

    if this were a movie this is the moment we all die.


    but in the real world it will help us develop treatment for it in case it ever does evolve in nature so that it doesn't become a pandemic and and blindside us.

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  • HunteraHuntera Rude Boy Registered User regular
    It always pleases me how competent scientists are in real life, compared to movies and stuff.

    It's a nice change of pace for reality to be better than fiction!

  • M.D.M.D. and then what happens? Registered User regular
    The only hurricane I sat through was Hurricane Andrew, that was pretty crazy place was flooded for about a week and a half

  • JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    Chimera wrote:
    JoeUser wrote:
    Junpei wrote:
    Chimera is just really excited about extreme weather, to the dismay of anyone else who has experienced it : b

    The passion for it is pretty admirable : )

    The Weather Channel people are the same way, super excited when a hurricane comes baring down on Louisiana.

    You make it sound like I cheer for storms to cause death and destruction which couldn't be further from the truth. I'd much rather for the storm to happen far from a populated area and hit nothing than for it to do damage but if the storm has hit a populated area I do want to learn as much as I can about the event so that I may learn what has happened and how it effected those impacted as well as how they reacted during and after the storm in hopes that knowledge will help others in the future. Futhermore the fact you think I may be trying to overhype the severity of tornadoes in the SE for ratings purposes is also simply not true. I am just trying to point out how serious tornadoes can be and the fact that they are a bit more comon than one may think they are in that part of the country.

    In other science news....

    CME IMPACT: The coronal mass ejection (CME), that I mentioned in an earlier post, hit Earth's magnetic field at approximately 2145 UT on Nov. 28th. The impact was relatively weak and did not spark a strong geomagnetic storm, so the chance of getting any real abnormal aruora activity or a migration of the aruoras towards the equator is not likely to happen as of now. Better luck next time!

    Nah, no offense meant, I know that you and TWC folks don't want anything bad to happen but at the same time are excited about interesting weather. It's just odd to see that excitement contrasted with bad weather events.

    As someone who lived in southern Louisiana most of my life, I know how important weather science is in warning us of future dangers. I haven't been in a tornado, but I've weathered a bunch of hurricanes if you have any questions.

  • KrieghundKrieghund Registered User regular
    The only hurricane I sat through was Hurricane Andrew, that was pretty crazy place was flooded for about a week and a half

    Depending where you were, Andrew wasn't so bad. Up here in north west Broward, all we got was crazy wind and a day late start to school. Wilma on the other hand pretty much affected all of south Florida with power outages. The sky was amazing that week.

  • M.D.M.D. and then what happens? Registered User regular
    Krieghund wrote:
    The only hurricane I sat through was Hurricane Andrew, that was pretty crazy place was flooded for about a week and a half

    Depending where you were, Andrew wasn't so bad. Up here in north west Broward, all we got was crazy wind and a day late start to school. Wilma on the other hand pretty much affected all of south Florida with power outages. The sky was amazing that week.

    I was in Louisiana it was pretty bad where I was living

  • TossrockTossrock too weird to live too rare to dieRegistered User regular
  • TaskmanTaskman Registered User regular
    This is the best thing of the day: Printing 3D bones.

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  • FlayFlay Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    Neat! 3D printing could make some really exciting things possible.

    Have you seen this?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RMx31GnNXY

    Flay on
  • TaskmanTaskman Registered User regular
    No, I hadn't. That was actually amazing, I feel like I'm living in the future now. Makes you wonder when we're in our 70s to 90s how many of the organs we have will be originals.

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  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    Locked up in the bowels of the medical faculty building here and accessible to only a handful of scientists lies a man-made flu virus that could change world history if it were ever set free.

    The virus is an H5N1 avian influenza strain that has been genetically altered and is now easily transmissible between ferrets, the animals that most closely mimic the human response to flu. Scientists believe it's likely that the pathogen, if it emerged in nature or were released, would trigger an influenza pandemic, quite possibly with many millions of deaths.

    .............

    NSABB chair Paul Keim, a microbial geneticist, says he cannot discuss specific studies but confirms that the board has "worked very hard and very intensely for several weeks on studies about H5N1 transmissibility in mammals." The group plans to issue a public statement soon, says Keim, and is likely to issue additional recommendations about this type of research. "We'll have a lot to say," he says.

    "I can't think of another pathogenic organism that is as scary as this one," adds Keim, who has worked on anthrax for many years. "I don't think anthrax is scary at all compared to this."

    Some scientists say that's reason enough not to do such research. The virus could escape from the lab, or bioterrorists or rogue nations could use the published results to fashion a bioweapon with the potential for mass destruction, they say. "This work should never have been done," says Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist at Rutgers University in Piscataway, New Jersey, and the Howard Hughes Medical Institute who has a strong interest in biosecurity issues.
    Link

    If I recall the D&D thread about this correctly, the "genetic engineering" was just plain old selective breeding. That means this superflu could have turned up in nature. That's the most interesting and scary part about it.

    Also yay science.

  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    "just" plain old selective breeding

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  • TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    that's like... what nazis did

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  • TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    edited December 2011
    Yeah, it's probably best that we just let something like this develop on its own in the wild and worry about the consequences and prevention/treatments AFTER it starts killing people.

    There are already countless deadly diseases locked away in biologic laboratories all around the world. It's not going to break free and destroy us all any more than any other preserved plague. People need to stop over-dramatizing and demonizing scientific research just because they don't understand it.

    This smacks of "shut down all nuclear power because it's so dangerous".

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    TankHammer wrote:
    Yeah, it's probably best that we just let something like this develop on its own in the wild and worry about the consequences and prevention/treatments AFTER it starts killing people.

    There are already countless deadly diseases locked away in biologic laboratories all around the world. It's not going to break free and destroy us all any more than any other preserved plague. People need to stop over-dramatizing and demonizing scientific research just because they don't understand it.

    This smacks of "shut down all nuclear power because it's so dangerous".

    Nobody read the Hot Zone, apparently.

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    TankHammer wrote: »
    Yeah, it's probably best that we just let something like this develop on its own in the wild and worry about the consequences and prevention/treatments AFTER it starts killing people.

    There are already countless deadly diseases locked away in biologic laboratories all around the world. It's not going to break free and destroy us all any more than any other preserved plague. People need to stop over-dramatizing and demonizing scientific research just because they don't understand it.

    This smacks of "shut down all nuclear power because it's so dangerous".

    I disagree that this is being all that overly dramatized.

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  • ArtreusArtreus I'm a wizard And that looks fucked upRegistered User regular
    One of those diseases getting out would probably be a whole lot worse than any nuclear incident. A whole lot.

    There are plenty of safeguards at these facilities though so we are good.

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  • TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    It's ok, they just put a new guy in charge of security.

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    He seems like a fine fellow.

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  • Caulk Bite 6Caulk Bite 6 One of the multitude of Dans infesting this place Registered User regular
    Yeah, it's not like places with essentially criminal safety standards like the Umbrella Corporation actually exist.

    I'd say that even with terror and human error, the likelyhood of these diseases getting out of the lab is pretty low.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Stig, I give that post twelve thumbs up.

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  • ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User, Transition Team regular
    Stig, way to go.

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