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Science fiction, and science FACT! (such as ANCIENT ALIENS)

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    DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    Yeah, it's four circles

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    JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    Science?

    Package deal: Injections make penis grow, study finds
    They recently published a study in the Journal of Sexual Medicine that analyzed how injections of a hyaluronic acid filler (Restylane Sub-Q) could increase penile girth. These physicians injected an average of 20.5 cc (about two-thirds of a medicine cup) using “a back-and-forth technique” into the deep soft tissue layers of the penises of 50 men. The product was then ‘homogenized with a roller.’
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    The men’s penises had an average increase in circumference (girth) of 4 cm, which was maintained 18 months later.

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    DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    who participates in these experiments?

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    that seems

    tremendously painful

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    guys that want bigger dicks?

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    MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    I don't like the sound of "homogenized with a roller"

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    The GeekThe Geek Oh-Two Crew, Omeganaut Registered User, ClubPA regular
    MrMonroe wrote:
    I don't like the sound of "homogenized with a roller"

    heh, "homo" heheheheh

    BLM - ACAB
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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    or "back-and-forth" technique en re a fucking needle

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    LTMLTM Bikes and BeardsRegistered User regular
    Keep going, I'm almost there...

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    JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    I wonder what the editor of the Journal of Sexual Medicine looks like

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    DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    I mean like

    you could probably round up a few guys on craigslist who want shit injected into their penis and smushed around with a rolling pin

    but that seems like a strange project for a Scientist to actually work on

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    The GeekThe Geek Oh-Two Crew, Omeganaut Registered User, ClubPA regular
    JoeUser wrote:
    I wonder what the editor of the Journal of Sexual Medicine looks like

    Larry Flynt with a stethoscope.

    BLM - ACAB
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    HunteraHuntera Rude Boy Registered User regular
    The Geek wrote: »
    JoeUser wrote:
    I wonder what the editor of the Journal of Sexual Medicine looks like

    Larry Flynt with a stethoscope.

    I'd think they would look a lot more like Hugh Hefner

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    JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    Dichotomy wrote:
    I mean like

    you could probably round up a few guys on craigslist who want shit injected into their penis and smushed around with a rolling pin

    but that seems like a strange project for a Scientist to actually work on

    Well they are in Korea ...

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    FishmanFishman Put your goddamned hand in the goddamned Box of Pain. Registered User regular
    Legal lifestyle pharmaceuticals and medicine are $$$, though. You don't get rich curing malaria, polio or diabetes, because basically all you're able to charge at cost of production + development or else public outcry makes you out to be profiteering on human misery.

    You get rich by discovering Viagra, or a new more lifelike breast implant, because when it is a lifestyle choice like buying a certain type of car or picking a dress, you can charge whatever the fuck you want. And therefore make money.

    X-Com LP Thread I, II, III, IV, V
    That's unbelievably cool. Your new name is cool guy. Let's have sex.
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    #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    JoeUser wrote:
    I wonder what the editor of the Journal of Sexual Medicine looks like

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    AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    my god i love kari byron

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    This is a really good blog post by Dr. Steven Novella about how the American Headache Society recently stated in a press release that they recommend "sham" acupuncture (see blog post for details) for migraines as a result of a study that showed that fake acupuncture is as effective as traditional acupuncture. They interpreted the study to mean that both are effective interventions, but Novella points out that the correct interpretation is that sham acupuncture works no better than placebo, and neither does traditional acupuncture. They're both bullshit. But under the umbrella of "complementary alternative medicine", they get to claim a failure as a success.

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    DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    man the american headache society is giving me a headache

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    YoSoyTheWalrusYoSoyTheWalrus Registered User regular
    They're giving me an American

    (I named my boner American)

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    TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    There's a part of me that's okay with these dishonest placebo treatments because I'd rather somebody go in and have needles poked at them or get reiki massage or some other relatively-harmless procedure than to take medicine they don't actually need for a condition that's clearly psychosomatic like many headaches.

    Of course in the greater scheme of things this leads to more harm than good but on a small scale I support the placebo effect.

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Antimatter wrote:
    my god i love kari byron

    she is the best, yes

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    DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    oh acupuncture is bullshit but reiki is real

    remember we had that guy make a thread on it

    I know a twelfth level reiki master that can cook a turkey with his mind

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    TankHammer wrote: »
    There's a part of me that's okay with these dishonest placebo treatments because I'd rather somebody go in and have needles poked at them or get reiki massage or some other relatively-harmless procedure than to take medicine they don't actually need for a condition that's clearly psychosomatic like many headaches.

    Of course in the greater scheme of things this leads to more harm than good but on a small scale I support the placebo effect.

    What? Are you suggesting that headaches aren't real? What exactly do you mean by psychosomatic in this case?

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Druhim wrote:
    TankHammer wrote: »
    There's a part of me that's okay with these dishonest placebo treatments because I'd rather somebody go in and have needles poked at them or get reiki massage or some other relatively-harmless procedure than to take medicine they don't actually need for a condition that's clearly psychosomatic like many headaches.

    Of course in the greater scheme of things this leads to more harm than good but on a small scale I support the placebo effect.

    What? Are you suggesting that headaches aren't real? What exactly do you mean by psychosomatic in this case?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLrnkK2YEcE&ob=av3e

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    That boy needs therapy.

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    CD, you're crazy in the coconut.

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    What does that mean??

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    TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    Druhim wrote:
    TankHammer wrote: »
    There's a part of me that's okay with these dishonest placebo treatments because I'd rather somebody go in and have needles poked at them or get reiki massage or some other relatively-harmless procedure than to take medicine they don't actually need for a condition that's clearly psychosomatic like many headaches.

    Of course in the greater scheme of things this leads to more harm than good but on a small scale I support the placebo effect.

    What? Are you suggesting that headaches aren't real? What exactly do you mean by psychosomatic in this case?

    A good portion of headaches will go away just as well with a placebo as with aspirin or ibuprofen or whatever drugs you would take for a headache. You're best off just drinking some water and breathing deeply instead of reaching for the muscle relaxers every time you feel a dull throb.

    And by psychosomatic I mean it's stress or anxiety based and not actually anything physically wrong with you.

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    FyndirFyndir Registered User regular
    I know I'm like a month late, but I was catching up on the thread and wanted to thank @stilts for linking Literally Unbelievable.

    It has killed me.

    I am dead now.

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    WeaverWeaver Who are you? What do you want?Registered User regular
    Antimatter wrote:
    my god i love kari byron

    she is the best, yes

    Can't stand her myself.

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    WeaverWeaver Who are you? What do you want?Registered User regular
    TankHammer wrote:
    Druhim wrote:
    TankHammer wrote: »
    There's a part of me that's okay with these dishonest placebo treatments because I'd rather somebody go in and have needles poked at them or get reiki massage or some other relatively-harmless procedure than to take medicine they don't actually need for a condition that's clearly psychosomatic like many headaches.

    Of course in the greater scheme of things this leads to more harm than good but on a small scale I support the placebo effect.

    What? Are you suggesting that headaches aren't real? What exactly do you mean by psychosomatic in this case?

    A good portion of headaches will go away just as well with a placebo as with aspirin or ibuprofen or whatever drugs you would take for a headache. You're best off just drinking some water and breathing deeply instead of reaching for the muscle relaxers every time you feel a dull throb.

    And by psychosomatic I mean it's stress or anxiety based and not actually anything physically wrong with you.

    You don't know a damn thing about muscular tension, do you?

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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Fyndir wrote:
    I know I'm like a month late, but I was catching up on the thread and wanted to thank @stilts for linking Literally Unbelievable.

    It has killed me.

    I am dead now.

    You're welcome.

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2012
    TankHammer wrote: »
    Druhim wrote:
    TankHammer wrote: »
    There's a part of me that's okay with these dishonest placebo treatments because I'd rather somebody go in and have needles poked at them or get reiki massage or some other relatively-harmless procedure than to take medicine they don't actually need for a condition that's clearly psychosomatic like many headaches.

    Of course in the greater scheme of things this leads to more harm than good but on a small scale I support the placebo effect.

    What? Are you suggesting that headaches aren't real? What exactly do you mean by psychosomatic in this case?

    A good portion of headaches will go away just as well with a placebo as with aspirin or ibuprofen or whatever drugs you would take for a headache. You're best off just drinking some water and breathing deeply instead of reaching for the muscle relaxers every time you feel a dull throb.

    And by psychosomatic I mean it's stress or anxiety based and not actually anything physically wrong with you.

    I'm sorry, but this is just wrong. Reminds me of a biology professor I had who was doing research on how cannabinoids act on the brain. He commented on how people will talk about how someone's pain is "just in their head" as if that somehow makes the pain less real, or that it means the pain is "imaginary". Of course pain is "in your head". You process most of your senses in your brain (I say most because some of the signal processing for some senses occurs before reaching the brain), but that doesn't make your vision "just in your head" or a taste imaginary and psychosomatic. Pain has a biological cause. Migraines definitely have a biological cause. People love to trot out the placebo effect as if it's some wonder cure for any and everything, or at least for anything pain related as if pain is strictly imaginary. Of course I'm not saying the placebo effect isn't real, but the placebo effect is very weak and is not a replacement for intervention that we know actually works. So no, paying for some bullshit is not justified by the placebo effect.

    Druhim on
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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited February 2012
    Weaver wrote:
    Antimatter wrote:
    my god i love kari byron

    she is the best, yes

    Can't stand her myself.

    she reminds me of olivia munn

    in that she's casted for exactly the same reasons

    Brolo on
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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2012
    Druhim wrote:
    TankHammer wrote: »
    Druhim wrote:
    TankHammer wrote: »
    There's a part of me that's okay with these dishonest placebo treatments because I'd rather somebody go in and have needles poked at them or get reiki massage or some other relatively-harmless procedure than to take medicine they don't actually need for a condition that's clearly psychosomatic like many headaches.

    Of course in the greater scheme of things this leads to more harm than good but on a small scale I support the placebo effect.

    What? Are you suggesting that headaches aren't real? What exactly do you mean by psychosomatic in this case?

    A good portion of headaches will go away just as well with a placebo as with aspirin or ibuprofen or whatever drugs you would take for a headache. You're best off just drinking some water and breathing deeply instead of reaching for the muscle relaxers every time you feel a dull throb.

    And by psychosomatic I mean it's stress or anxiety based and not actually anything physically wrong with you.

    I'm sorry, but this is just wrong. Reminds me of a biology professor I had who was doing research on how cannabinoids act on the brain. He commented on how people will talk about how someone's pain is "just in their head" as if that somehow makes the pain less real, or that it means the pain is "imaginary". Of course pain is "in your head". You process most of your senses in your brain (I say most because some of the signal processing for some senses occurs before reaching the brain), but that doesn't make your vision "just in your head" or a taste imaginary and psychosomatic. Pain has a biological cause. Migraines definitely have a biological cause. People love to trot out the placebo effect as if it's some wonder cure for any and everything, or at least for anything pain related as if pain is strictly imaginary. Of course I'm not saying the placebo effect isn't real, but the placebo effect is very weak and is not a replacement for intervention that we know actually works. So no, paying for some bullshit is not justified by the placebo effect.

    It is more accurate to say that most every common ailment will go away with time. It's how crappy doctors stay in business. They give you a pill that doesn't kill you and eventually you get better. If they were right you get better quicker, but either way you attribute the success to that particular doctor.

    Munkus Beaver on
    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    ComahawkComahawk Registered User regular
    Druhim wrote:
    TankHammer wrote: »
    Druhim wrote:
    TankHammer wrote: »
    There's a part of me that's okay with these dishonest placebo treatments because I'd rather somebody go in and have needles poked at them or get reiki massage or some other relatively-harmless procedure than to take medicine they don't actually need for a condition that's clearly psychosomatic like many headaches.

    Of course in the greater scheme of things this leads to more harm than good but on a small scale I support the placebo effect.

    What? Are you suggesting that headaches aren't real? What exactly do you mean by psychosomatic in this case?

    A good portion of headaches will go away just as well with a placebo as with aspirin or ibuprofen or whatever drugs you would take for a headache. You're best off just drinking some water and breathing deeply instead of reaching for the muscle relaxers every time you feel a dull throb.

    And by psychosomatic I mean it's stress or anxiety based and not actually anything physically wrong with you.

    I'm sorry, but this is just wrong. Reminds me of a biology professor I had who was doing research on how cannabinoids act on the brain. He commented on how people will talk about how someone's pain is "just in their head" as if that somehow makes the pain less real, or that it means the pain is "imaginary". Of course pain is "in your head". You process most of your senses in your brain (I say most because some of the signal processing for some senses occurs before reaching the brain), but that doesn't make your vision "just in your head" or a taste imaginary and psychosomatic. Pain has a biological cause. Migraines definitely have a biological cause. People love to trot out the placebo effect as if it's some wonder cure for any and everything, or at least for anything pain related as if pain is strictly imaginary. Of course I'm not saying the placebo effect isn't real, but the placebo effect is very weak and is not a replacement for intervention that we know actually works. So no, paying for some bullshit is not justified by the placebo effect.

    It is more accurate to say that most every common ailment will go away with time. It's how crappy doctors stay in business. They give you a pill that doesn't kill you and eventually you get better. If they were right you get better quicker, but either way you attribute the success to that particular doctor.

    Reminds me of getting pink eye during basic.

    I was given eye drops to take that would clear it up in three to four days. Only later did I find out that it will naturally clear in that amount of time.

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    M.D.M.D. and then what happens? Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    oh man, military treatment

    knee problems? here's ibuprofen

    got food poisoning? here's ibuprofen

    dying? here's ibuprofen

    shit cures everything to them (well the ones i had liked to think that)

    M.D. on
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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Yeah, from what I've heard, medical care in the military is generally pretty crap.

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    LegbaLegba He did. Registered User regular
    There's also such a thing as returning to the mean. By the time you go to a doctor, chances are you're already at the worst stage of your illness and it'll get better naturally.

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