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FIXED: I am Wrong
RobotPatrol
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I am an independent film maker and had an idea to challenge myself with a project. My project was to see if I could film a 6 episode web series at PAX East 2012.
I was going to look to the community in the PAX forums to find interested actors and people looking to help.
Then today I go to see if anyone commented on my post and
it was deleted and the message i got was. "We don't allow these sorts of threads here on the PAX forum. I suggest you start up a kickstarter and acquire your funds that way. Begging for cash on the PAX forum isn't the way to go." Now while I did mention my indiegogo page, I never made that the main subject of the thread.
I removed the indiegogo link so I can't get in trouble but this was my post.
Is it possible the moderator didn't actually read my post all the way?
and was I in the wrong?
just looking for some input.
I was going to look to the community in the PAX forums to find interested actors and people looking to help.
Then today I go to see if anyone commented on my post and
it was deleted and the message i got was. "We don't allow these sorts of threads here on the PAX forum. I suggest you start up a kickstarter and acquire your funds that way. Begging for cash on the PAX forum isn't the way to go." Now while I did mention my indiegogo page, I never made that the main subject of the thread.
I am currently trying to fund the project here INDIEGOGO LINK REMOVED . Now I understand not everyone can afford to help us fund this project but there are other ways you can help. We are also looking for people that would like to be involved. It makes sense for us to use our fellow comrades at PAX than bus people up from philadelphia that may or may not really want to be there.
So we are looking for people interested in acting in this web series, anyone and everyone will be considered(even if you are under 18, We will just need your parents to sign a release form if you have any lines). All you need to do is send a little bio about youself and a video or just a picture to PAXEASTWEBSERIES@gmail.com and let us know how much of your time at PAX you are willing to spend with us.
Thanks again, and for the funding If you can't help us, and you don't want to act, you can always help spread the word. tweet it, post it on facebook, every little bit helps.
I removed the indiegogo link so I can't get in trouble but this was my post.
Is it possible the moderator didn't actually read my post all the way?
and was I in the wrong?
just looking for some input.
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I still wish they would have actually read my post before deleting it.
You are doing it wrong.
PM a mod about this.
If you had even talked about your project it might have gone different, but all you did was solicit help.
I imagine he was going for the reference and trying to be deliberately over-the-top.
Not that you're wrong.
So is posting for public opinions on moderator actions, because moderators only answer to the admins, not to the public.
I would personally just PM the moderator that messaged you and tell them you weren't aware of the rules against what you did and ask if there is a different way you could post what you want to post that wouldn't violate the rules.
Did you read the rules in the PAX forum?
Your best bet is to actively become part of the forum, put a link in your sig, and hope that people are interested enough in what you're saying to participate in your projects.
I changed the title of this thread because when I originally made it I was upset.
I thought that if I was going to look for people interested in being apart of a project.
I left the first sentence out of the post which is simply
And all the information about the project was on the indiegogo page and I figured that anyone interested would read about it there.
Also, about me never posting before.
I read threads all the time, but I don't have the time to do this on a regular basis because I work 12-14 hour days on different film/tv projects that
allow me to do things like this for myself.
So, this is where I am right now. Penny Arcade obviously cares about Creative, independent projects. I was wrong for ever assuming they did not.
Did the moderator read my whole post, I don't know. Was it solicitation? I don't think so. I mentioned the indiegogo page but did not expect anyone to pledge any money.
I was bringing my own crew, the only sort of volunteers I was looking for were potential actors/actresses. People who may be looking for experience in the field and may want to
add something like this on their acting reel.
also, I should have described the project more in the original post.
Anything else I should realize?
Yes, that you have to read the rules of a forum before posting. You made a thread to dispute a mod decision, that is explicitly forbidden. You did this after making a thread that looked like advertising (or empty site whoring / fund begging) without clearing it with the admin staff first. That is also forbidden here.
This rubs people the wrong way because it's all about asking. The "correct" way to plug your project is either to be a member of the PA community with a link in your signature, in which case people will click on it because they're interested, or by posting something about it once it's done and you don't need a bunch of money and actors and tweets from us to get it going.
Because you didn't ask for discussion from people or anything, and basically just said "I'm working on this thing here [link], and here's my e-mail if you want to give me money or help out with the thing I'm making, and please spread the word on Twitter"... your post looked exactly like the latter type of post, and those types of posts are very similar to the former type, except real posters probably post a thread in the appropriate part of the forum, whereas bots post just about anywhere and love necroposting topics as well. The request not to do this sort of stuff is in fact in the rules, which the latter type of posters don't usually read and bots certainly never read. You would have had better luck with soliciting actual discussion, but really, if you want to try again with posting a full topic here, you really need to PM the appropriate mods for the forum. If you don't want to do that but still want better results, just hang around the PAX threads with your project linked in your sig (you can be like "hey, wanna act in this thing I'm doing?" there) and see what comes of it.
Well, then the answer to "Am I wrong?" is emphatically "yes."
Your entire post was nothing but solicitation. That's all it is. Solicitation doesn't mean "solicit for money," it means solicitation:
1: Posting your Indiegogo link was soliciting for funding.
2: "There are other ways you can help" is soliciting for help.
3: "Looking for people...to be involved" is soliciting for help.
4: "So we are looking for people interested in acting..." is soliciting for actors.
5: "...send a little bio..." is soliciting for personal information.
6: "...help spread the word. tweet it, post it on facebook..." is soliciting people to leverage their own social media accounts to advertise for you.
While you may have your heart in the right place here, you have to look at this from the perspective of mods, admins, and other posters that are reading your post. Your post doesn't say "hey guys, I'm one of you, how about we all band together and do this cool thing" even if that's how you meant to sound. It says "I'm an outsider and I would like your help in accomplishing this project."
So, I think you should realize that your post looks like an advertisement and nothing more. That's not because the moderator didn't read or misread your post. It's either because you didn't communicate what you intended, or you did communicate what you intended but it doesn't jive with the rules of the PA forums.
Actually when I made this thread I was honestly asking if I was originally wrong.
Most people here helped me figure out where I was wrong and I appreciate that.
as for the site whoreing/fund begging. I am not sure if that is true. The link was posted but I was more or less looking for people wanting to act(which I believe I may need to recieve permission for). If I had to I would find completely willing actors who don't even know what PAX is but that would feel fake to me. So I originally thought this would be the best way to get the community involved.
Not just some dude doing a drive-by spam-lookalike post about give me money/time/free advertising
I am aware of this now. While it is true, I didn't want to think of it like that.
TychoCelchuuu, Essee, Drez
I want to thank you guys for helping me figure out where I went wrong.
I was having a hard time exactly pin pointing it but you guys really helped.
I have officially changed the title of this thread because
I admit. I was in the wrong.