You know my methods, now put them to use (Not Safe For Napoleons of Crime)

BusterK

This is Sherlock Holmes, he is as cool as Batman and Iron Man combined
Plus he has all the classiness of a 19th Century London Bohemian


This is Watson
He runs into every fight he sees, is a crack shot and is nearly as intelligent as Sherlock Holmes


This is Noomi Rapace
She is the Gypsy with the Dragon Tattoo
She is a better girl foil than Stella Adler because unlike Rachel McAdams she actually looks like she could kick an ass or two


Finally there is Moriarty, the aforementioned Napoleon of Crime
He is very dangerous, malicious and diabolically clever
Much of the thrill of the movie comes from watching he and Holmes continually try to outwit each other
As well as him putting Holmes and Watson is situations that appear impossible to escape from

This movie is everything I could have wanted
I was initially worried by the hurried nature of the opening, there is absolutely no exposition and the movie takes it for granted you remember the previous movie
Or at least are familiar enough with the characters not to be lost

But as it went on I realized with a character like Moriarty there was no time to relax
All his moves have been thought out so far in advance that there is no time to reflect on them before they come to fruition
He is a villain who gives no quarter

So be warned it is much faster and bigger and louder than the first movie
There is not even enough time for many demonstrations of Baritsu which was sorely missed
However, it more than makes up for in thrilling action sequences and brainy tension trying to outmatch Sherlock Holmes greatest adversary

Also Stephen Fry shows up and then gets naked so that's nice
Also it's not in 3D so that's also nice

godmode

Want to see this! Waiting for my roommate to watch the first one so we can go.

Also, oh dang, Noomi Rapace is in this? That's pretty cool.

Bucketman

I liked this. This was an enjoyable movie

DJ Eebs

I dunno if I want to see this or Mission Impossible. I think I'm leaning towards Mission Impossible, though.

godmode

Why not both?

Crimson King

um i think you are confused this is sherlock holmes and doctor watson



who's this other guy? he kind of looks like an american

Tox

Crimson King wrote:

um i think you are confused this is sherlock holmes and doctor watson



who's this other guy? he kind of looks like an american

Get. Out.

TrippyJing

I read the title as Napoleons of China for a second there.

BlankZoe

I think the RDJ Holmes movies are fun

they are "Sherlock Holmes as an action hero" which is something I would happily watch

BusterK

Nah those tv guys really pale in comparison

Muse Among Men

I liked the last film but my previous complaint still stands: the posters are fucking horrible.

It is as if the raw file was run through several photoshop filters, everyone looks slightly plastic and the fabric looks like cg or painted on textures.

The film I saw last however sported a very nice aesthetic. And I enjoyed it otherwise so I am seeing the sequel tomorrow.

BusterK

I really loved this movie
Like really loved it
I was not that impressed with most of the Summer blockbusters and this just blew them all away for me
I'm hoping MI:3 and TinTin do the same

SLyM

I prefer my Sherlock Holmes an effeminate, drug-addled violinist.

For whom "get into a fight"

Means

grab someone and fall off a cliff

Yes, I do put plot points of hundred year old books in spoilers.

BusterK

SLyM wrote:

I prefer my Sherlock Holmes an effeminate, drug-addled violinist.

For whom "get into a fight"

Means

grab someone and fall off a cliff

Yes, I do put plot points of hundred year old books in spoilers.

All of those things apply to RDJ Sherlock as well
All of them

Kochikens

I'll visit this thread after I've seenit.

Tox

I am looking forward to seeing this, though I don't know when I'll be able to get around to doing so.

nightmarenny

BusterK wrote:

SLyM wrote:

I prefer my Sherlock Holmes an effeminate, drug-addled violinist.

For whom "get into a fight"

Means

grab someone and fall off a cliff

Yes, I do put plot points of hundred year old books in spoilers.

All of those things apply to RDJ Sherlock as well
All of them

Like, that's the funniest comment you could have made.

Indie Winter

not really looking forward to this movie as much as I am to the return of the british series

BusterK

Honestly I could not get into the new series
I watched the first episode figured out the killer's identity halfway through and found the ending scene tortuously dumb

I prefer the Jeremy Brett series

chiasaur11

SLyM wrote:

I prefer my Sherlock Holmes an effeminate, drug-addled violinist.

For whom "get into a fight"

Means

grab someone and fall off a cliff

Yes, I do put plot points of hundred year old books in spoilers.

Eh?

Even in the books, he was a straight up badass.

Mixed martial arts, bending steel pokers with his bare hands, all that.

BBC Sherlock hits the same notes, even. Remember the opening to the second episode with the swordfighting dude?

Just the American films focus on it more.

Deadfall

This was everything I wanted in a movie ever.

Crimson King

BusterK wrote:

Honestly I could not get into the new series
I watched the first episode figured out the killer's identity halfway through and found the ending scene tortuously dumb

I prefer the Jeremy Brett series

the only flaw with the new series was that moffat seems to think no-one has seen the princess bride

also i tend to be of the opinion that the action baritsu parts of sherlock holmes are the least interesting parts of sherlock holmes

Lost Salient

I was alright with Jeremy Brett's portrayal of the character but his look is just not Holmes at all to me.

Anyway I'm sure everyone knows this about me already, but I am a completely insane Sherlock Holmes afficionado, and that didn't stop me from loving the first movie. If it's not Doyle it's bound to be not-entirely-in-sync, obviously. Even adaptations of the actual Doyle stories can be weirdly nonsensically unfaithful, but hell, I think that's one of the fun aspects to the Holmes-verse... pastiche is so popular that you're able to take the well-loved characters and examine them in all sorts of new ways. Sometimes those ways suck, of course.

Point is, I will be seeing the poo out of this on Friday in the United Amurrica States. Possibly alone. But I don't care.

Orikaeshigitae

Lost Salient wrote:

I was alright with Jeremy Brett's portrayal of the character but his look is just not Holmes at all to me.

Anyway I'm sure everyone knows this about me already, but I am a completely insane Sherlock Holmes afficionado, and that didn't stop me from loving the first movie. If it's not Doyle it's bound to be not-entirely-in-sync, obviously. Even adaptations of the actual Doyle stories can be weirdly nonsensically unfaithful, but hell, I think that's one of the fun aspects to the Holmes-verse... pastiche is so popular that you're able to take the well-loved characters and examine them in all sorts of new ways. Sometimes those ways suck, of course.

Point is, I will be seeing the poo out of this on Friday in the United Amurrica States. Possibly alone. But I don't care.

dammit sal

quite being rad

you're breaking my radometer constantly

Lost Salient

Watch Sherlock Holmes in New York. The radness levels are so low your radometer will never break again.

How's you doing, anyway?

freakish light

BusterK wrote:

Honestly I could not get into the new series
I watched the first episode figured out the killer's identity halfway through and found the ending scene tortuously dumb

I prefer the Jeremy Brett series

Honestly I had the same complaint, but I felt like the second one pulled it together better and then the third one just knocked it out of the park.

Lars

Somewhat spoilery question relating to a plot point from the first movie that wasn't present in this one:

Did Moriarty use the wireless transmitter he spent the entire first movie trying to steal? I kept expecting it to come up at some point, but don't remember it getting used at all unless I missed it somehow.

Seriously

Lars wrote:

Somewhat spoilery question relating to a plot point from the first movie that wasn't present in this one:

Did Moriarty use the wireless transmitter he spent the entire first movie trying to steal? I kept expecting it to come up at some point, but don't remember it getting used at all unless I missed it somehow.

He totally doesn't

it is kind of funny

KalTorak

Seriously wrote:

Lars wrote:

Somewhat spoilery question relating to a plot point from the first movie that wasn't present in this one:

Did Moriarty use the wireless transmitter he spent the entire first movie trying to steal? I kept expecting it to come up at some point, but don't remember it getting used at all unless I missed it somehow.

He totally doesn't

it is kind of funny

Yeah, I was kinda bummed that

Moriarty uses neither the transmitter nor the little wrist-strapped tiny gun that was his signature in the first film.

Other than that minor complaint, this movie is rad as fuck. Love the RDJ movies. Love the BBC series.

Also love the radio dramatizations with Clive Merrison from a while back.

Holmes is the bee's knees.

Skull Man

really sad this doesn't have rachel mcadams because ha cha cha cha

hubba hubba

am I right

KalTorak

Skull Man wrote:

really sad this doesn't have rachel mcadams because ha cha cha cha

hubba hubba

am I right

It does!

(but yes you are right)

I was pissed that the trailer for the first one had a half-second shot of her strutting around in Victorian lingerie that didn't end up being in the movie at all.

Skull Man

oh! awesome

I guess I saw this

She is a better girl foil than Stella Adler because unlike Rachel McAdams she actually looks like she could kick an ass or two

and just sort of skimmed over it and figured she'd been replaced as an actress

Seriously

she's in it but she isn't the female lead

Tallahasseeriel

I should really read some Sherlock Holmes so I can enjoy these movies more.

But I did really like the first one.

BusterK

I like the character of Irene Adler but I don't think Rachel McAdams was the right actress at all. It's not even that she's a bad actress, I just saw her in Morning Glory and she was great. But she was a bad Irene Adler.

Sheri

I cannot wait to go see this!

facetious

BusterK wrote:

Also Stephen Fry shows up and then gets naked so that's nice

Wait what.
WHAT.

Naked????

Okay I'm seeing this.

u63r

Don't worry, you don't see much.

Of course, that might be a selling point to some people.

I liked Sim. She's capable, and has her own motivations for helping the hero, besides being a love interest and self-interest. Not that I didn't like Irene. Of course, a watcher paying any amount of attention could figure out she meant a lot to Holmes, from the puppy eyes when she doesn't show up to dinner as much as anything else. Someone give that socially inept detective a hug.

BusterK

u63r wrote:

Don't worry, you don't see much.

Of course, that might be a selling point to some people.

I liked Sim. She's capable, and has her own motivations for helping the hero, besides being a love interest and self-interest. Not that I didn't like Irene. Of course, a watcher paying any amount of attention could figure out she meant a lot to Holmes, from the puppy eyes when she doesn't show up to dinner as much as anything else. Someone give that socially inept detective a hug.

I really did love him in that scene
Way too many actors play Sherlock Holmes as aloof and unemotional when the correct way to play him is trying to be aloof and unemotional while a torrent of feeling rages underneath the surface
Like Spock

Artreus

Tox wrote:

Crimson King wrote:

um i think you are confused this is sherlock holmes and doctor watson



who's this other guy? he kind of looks like an american

Get. Out.

Nah.

The new BBC Sherlock is better than the first sherlock movie anyway.

I have not seen the new one.

I mean they are both good in different ways.

I just like the show more

KalTorak

BBC Holmes and RDJ Holmes are both excellent.