Since I'm just getting back into Marvel, and Thor is apparently planning to rebuild Asgard in my home state, I figure I should probably catch up on some of his recent exploits.
The idea of a story about a nordic pagan god building a city for nordic pagan gods in the middle of the bible belt gets me all hot and bothered.
check out thor: blood oath and if you can track them down, pick up the walter simonson thor trades. i think there's three (i've only found one so far) but they're damn excellent
And how do Apocalypse and Namor contradict X-Force?
Well, Namor not as much (he's only around 1-200 years old), but Apocalypse was born in 30th-Century BCE 'Egypt', and Selene was active since at least 10th century BCE. Neither of them showed their mutation at birth.
Basically, if X-Factor's current explanation that proto-mutants showed their mutations at birth (which would make more sense though) is true, that implies that it stopped doing so by at least 3,000 years ago. Since En Sabah Nur is the earliest example of a mutant we can find, it's hard to figure out where all these proto-mutants were living.
It doesn't directly contradict it, but it makes the X-Factor storyline much harder to maintain.
Oops! Missed this.
Namor is not a hundred. He's like ninety.
Yeah, maybe you missed that he lived in the 19th century.
Oh, and that his wings are because he's a mutant. This has been confirmed repeatedly.
Namor is a mutant.
He is not a mutant of the X-gene variety.
Namor was not around in the nineteenth century. He was born around 1920.
That doesn't make any sense: mutant=has X-gene in Marvel. Mutate=post-conception alteration (e.g. bite by radioactive spider).
Namor was born a mutant, in the Marvel, x-gene sense because that's all they use mutant to refer to.
God help us if one of you guys read Sentry. Fucking Christ.
Hey...you guys remember when I mentioned Batman: Hush?
With DC, I pretty much stopped there and much later read Infinite Crisis. Is there anything significant I should read with Bats in between those two points?
Well OMAC was fairly Batman centric.. but I'm not sure I would reccomend it, especially since you have already read IC and it was basically just a lead in.
If you want to read good post IC Batman then Morrisson's Batman run and/or Paul Dini's Detecive run are good places to go.
God help us if one of you guys read Sentry. Fucking Christ.
Hey...you guys remember when I mentioned Batman: Hush?
With DC, I pretty much stopped there and much later read Infinite Crisis. Is there anything significant I should read with Bats in between those two points?
OMAC Project maybe, but it's really not all that good. All you need to know is that Batman's darkness & paranoia got to the point where he made a superhero monitoring satellite, it got hijacked, prices were paid, Batman broke down in Infinite Crisis and is now "reborn" after spending a year finding himself.
Well OMAC was fairly Batman centric.. but I'm not sure I would reccomend it, especially since you have already read IC and it was basically just a lead in.
If you want to read good post IC Batman then Morrisson's Batman run and/or Paul Dini's Detecive run are good places to go.
I remember somebody telling me I could go into IC blind and by God that's a whole load of bullshit. Apparently Batman had some omnipotent Satellite and robots were attacking people and Super-Boy (Prime? I think he was the homoerotic one from back in the day...) punched what people now refer to as retcon glass. I mean, once I sat down with it I could gather that the world was erupting in chaos and so forth but the beginning was what confused me, and more importantly how Batman could make such a dick move.
Since I'm just getting back into Marvel, and Thor is apparently planning to rebuild Asgard in my home state, I figure I should probably catch up on some of his recent exploits.
The idea of a story about a nordic pagan god building a city for nordic pagan gods in the middle of the bible belt gets me all hot and bothered.
check out thor: blood oath and if you can track them down, pick up the walter simonson thor trades. i think there's three (i've only found one so far) but they're damn excellent
The second Simonson trade has proved impossible for me to find, but it's worth tracking down the back issues if you're not too attached to the trade format. I love Thor's Sigurd Jarlson secret identity, which is just Thor in glasses and a t-shirt. He's still like seven feet tall and incredibly muscular, just dressed differently.
Since I'm just getting back into Marvel, and Thor is apparently planning to rebuild Asgard in my home state, I figure I should probably catch up on some of his recent exploits.
The idea of a story about a nordic pagan god building a city for nordic pagan gods in the middle of the bible belt gets me all hot and bothered.
check out thor: blood oath and if you can track them down, pick up the walter simonson thor trades. i think there's three (i've only found one so far) but they're damn excellent
The second Simonson trade has proved impossible for me to find, but it's worth tracking down the back issues if you're not too attached to the trade format. I love Thor's Sigurd Jarlson secret identity, which is just Thor in glasses and a t-shirt. He's still like seven feet tall and incredibly muscular, just dressed differently.
and yet, even superman doesn't recognize him in that getup
I'm pretty sure Apocalypse's powers were present at birth, his horrific appearance was why he was abandoned in the desert and raised by outlaws.
Is his story in any books or miniseries? Because that sounds interesting.
Yeah, there's a whole trade about his origin. It's not too long, but it's a little old. It details his birth, adolesence, and his official "becoming" of Apocalypse. I wish I could remember anything more about it to be actually helpful, like what it's called. . .
I'm pretty sure Apocalypse's powers were present at birth, his horrific appearance was why he was abandoned in the desert and raised by outlaws.
Is his story in any books or miniseries? Because that sounds interesting.
Yeah, there's a whole trade about his origin. It's not too long, but it's a little old. It details his birth, adolesence, and his official "becoming" of Apocalypse. I wish I could remember anything more about it to be actually helpful, like what it's called. . .
The Rise of Apocalypse by Terry Kavanagh and Adam Pollina. Dunno if it's any good as I haven't read it.
Yes, yes it is good. And if you dig Fraction's writing, check out CASANOVA as well, it's only $1.99 / issue (and I think a tpb is coming out soon). It's Interdimensional S.H.I.E.L.D. on acid.
Yes. Personally I thought the character was hokey having not known of his existence (he's pretty obscure) all that much other than people talking about some guy with green and yellow leaping around...
But yeah he's actually quite badass. He's in charge of a huge corporation and he hasn't a fucking clue how shit runs, all the while he foils his various enemies. I've enjoyed it.
Things The Immortal Iron Fist Has
-kicking
-punching
-doing the forementioned to terrorists in green spandex suits
-flashbacks to past Iron Fists in varied art styles
-building off the previous point, Pirate Iron Fist and WWII Soldier Iron Fist
-a witty, likeable protagonist
-beautiful art
-smart, intriguing writing
-shady corporate espionage
-one of the best damn creative teams ever
Things The Immortal Iron Fist Does Not Have
-impenetrable continuity
-crappy filler issues
-things that suck
God help us if one of you guys read Sentry. Fucking Christ.
Hey...you guys remember when I mentioned Batman: Hush?
With DC, I pretty much stopped there and much later read Infinite Crisis. Is there anything significant I should read with Bats in between those two points?
OMAC Project maybe, but it's really not all that good. All you need to know is that Batman's darkness & paranoia got to the point where he made a superhero monitoring satellite, it got hijacked, prices were paid, Batman broke down in Infinite Crisis and is now "reborn" after spending a year finding himself.
If you haven't read the Tower of Babel JLA arc, you should probably pick that up.
And I'd personally say pick up the Under The Hood trades, but Jason Todd is pretty unpopular around here, so I don't know if anybody else would agree with me.
And how do Apocalypse and Namor contradict X-Force?
Well, Namor not as much (he's only around 1-200 years old), but Apocalypse was born in 30th-Century BCE 'Egypt', and Selene was active since at least 10th century BCE. Neither of them showed their mutation at birth.
Basically, if X-Factor's current explanation that proto-mutants showed their mutations at birth (which would make more sense though) is true, that implies that it stopped doing so by at least 3,000 years ago. Since En Sabah Nur is the earliest example of a mutant we can find, it's hard to figure out where all these proto-mutants were living.
It doesn't directly contradict it, but it makes the X-Factor storyline much harder to maintain.
Oops! Missed this.
Namor is not a hundred. He's like ninety.
Yeah, maybe you missed that he lived in the 19th century.
Oh, and that his wings are because he's a mutant. This has been confirmed repeatedly.
Namor is a mutant.
He is not a mutant of the X-gene variety.
Namor was not around in the nineteenth century. He was born around 1920.
That doesn't make any sense: mutant=has X-gene in Marvel. Mutate=post-conception alteration (e.g. bite by radioactive spider).
Namor was born a mutant, in the Marvel, x-gene sense because that's all they use mutant to refer to.
I was under the impression that:
Mutate: Not an X-Gene mutant, but not a normal human(Spider-man, the Hulk, Captain America)
Mutant: X-Gene
Metahuman: Anyone with powers(even Iron Man pre-Extremis)
Meaning Namor is a mutate, but in real-world science he's a mutant in that he is a deviation of the normal Atlantians.
But I say we just call him a Metahuman and be done with it.
And how do Apocalypse and Namor contradict X-Force?
Well, Namor not as much (he's only around 1-200 years old), but Apocalypse was born in 30th-Century BCE 'Egypt', and Selene was active since at least 10th century BCE. Neither of them showed their mutation at birth.
Basically, if X-Factor's current explanation that proto-mutants showed their mutations at birth (which would make more sense though) is true, that implies that it stopped doing so by at least 3,000 years ago. Since En Sabah Nur is the earliest example of a mutant we can find, it's hard to figure out where all these proto-mutants were living.
It doesn't directly contradict it, but it makes the X-Factor storyline much harder to maintain.
Oops! Missed this.
Namor is not a hundred. He's like ninety.
Yeah, maybe you missed that he lived in the 19th century.
Oh, and that his wings are because he's a mutant. This has been confirmed repeatedly.
Namor is a mutant.
He is not a mutant of the X-gene variety.
Namor was not around in the nineteenth century. He was born around 1920.
That doesn't make any sense: mutant=has X-gene in Marvel. Mutate=post-conception alteration (e.g. bite by radioactive spider).
Namor was born a mutant, in the Marvel, x-gene sense because that's all they use mutant to refer to.
I was under the impression that:
Mutate: Not an X-Gene mutant, but not a normal human(Spider-man, the Hulk, Captain America)
Mutant: X-Gene
Metahuman: Anyone with powers(even Iron Man pre-Extremis)
Meaning Namor is a mutate, but in real-world science he's a mutant in that he is a deviation of the normal Atlantians.
But I say we just call him a Metahuman and be done with it.
JQ: Namor is a mutant and one of the 198. His mutant power is the wings on his ankles. Every other power he has is due to his complex nature as a hybrid of human and Atlantean.
Straight from the horses' mouth, Namor is indeed a mutant, not mutate or metahuman.
Slightly off-topic (webcomics instead of comic books):
Dear Whippy,
...who in the world thinks Something Positive is a Penny Arcade ripoff?
Penny Arcade is a well-drawn, three-to-four panel comic with strips that are usually videogame-related, are always intended as humorous, and has no continuity whatsoever.
Something Positive is a mediocrely-drawn comic four-to-whatever panel comic with no particular theme, with a number of strips which intentionally do not have jokes, and which has an ongoing storyline.
The only similarity I can think of is that both use the word "fuck" a lot.
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And how do Apocalypse and Namor contradict X-Force?
Well, Namor not as much (he's only around 1-200 years old), but Apocalypse was born in 30th-Century BCE 'Egypt', and Selene was active since at least 10th century BCE. Neither of them showed their mutation at birth.
Basically, if X-Factor's current explanation that proto-mutants showed their mutations at birth (which would make more sense though) is true, that implies that it stopped doing so by at least 3,000 years ago. Since En Sabah Nur is the earliest example of a mutant we can find, it's hard to figure out where all these proto-mutants were living.
It doesn't directly contradict it, but it makes the X-Factor storyline much harder to maintain.
I don't think it contradicts this at all. I mean, no one in En-Sabah Nur's time knew what a mutant was, they worshiped him as a god. Additionally, if you read the X-Factor story line, there were many, many mutants born that way between Apocolypse and Namor. They were considered fey and tossed into the forest... if you've ever read any of the folklore regarding Changelings, that is what X-Factor was referring to.
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wrote:
When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
Well, part of the whole idea for Runaways is that BKV wanted to make something new for the Marvel Universe, and have other people take over after he finished. Being creator-owned would be against the whole point.
Things The Immortal Iron Fist Has
-kicking
-punching
-doing the forementioned to terrorists in green spandex suits
-flashbacks to past Iron Fists in varied art styles
-building off the previous point, Pirate Iron Fist and WWI Soldier Pulp Iron Fist
-a witty, likeable protagonist
-beautiful art
-smart, intriguing writing
-shady corporate espionage
-one of the best damn creative teams ever
Things The Immortal Iron Fist Does Not Have
-impenetrable continuity
-crappy filler issues
-things that suck
Ok, here's a completely non 198 mutant related question. Hope it doesn't get lost in all the excitement...
Hey there!
Anybody read the last TPB of Y:The Last Man (Kimono Dragons) ?
Now can anybody explain to me what the picture that Alter Tse'elon holds in the last pannel means ? It got me kinda confused. And it seems so pivotal to the entire story...
This whole "Y: The Last Man" thing sounds like it could be interesting...at least from my point of view, where all I know about it is the absolute bare minimum of it's premise.
I've also heard that it started sucking....sometime....
Should I pick up some TPBs and start reading? When should I stop?
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Dear Whippy- why didn't I trust my fellow DVers when they told me how awesome Annihilation was? How can I atone for this misdeed?
Sentry on
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
wrote:
When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
Dear Whippy- why didn't I trust my fellow DVers when they told me how awesome Annihilation was? How can I atone for this misdeed?
Buy 20 copies of the first issue of the new Nova series.
It shall be so
Sentry on
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wrote:
When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
Dear Whippy- why didn't I trust my fellow DVers when they told me how awesome Annihilation was? How can I atone for this misdeed?
Buy Nova, and the Essential Nova TPB, and then sleep with them.
You can get the trades. Book 1 is out now, book 2 comes out this month, and Book 3 drops in June. Also, buy the Heralds of Galactus mini and put Annihilation:Conquest on your pull list.
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check out thor: blood oath and if you can track them down, pick up the walter simonson thor trades. i think there's three (i've only found one so far) but they're damn excellent
That doesn't make any sense: mutant=has X-gene in Marvel. Mutate=post-conception alteration (e.g. bite by radioactive spider).
Namor was born a mutant, in the Marvel, x-gene sense because that's all they use mutant to refer to.
Hey...you guys remember when I mentioned Batman: Hush?
With DC, I pretty much stopped there and much later read Infinite Crisis. Is there anything significant I should read with Bats in between those two points?
If you want to read good post IC Batman then Morrisson's Batman run and/or Paul Dini's Detecive run are good places to go.
OMAC Project maybe, but it's really not all that good. All you need to know is that Batman's darkness & paranoia got to the point where he made a superhero monitoring satellite, it got hijacked, prices were paid, Batman broke down in Infinite Crisis and is now "reborn" after spending a year finding himself.
I remember somebody telling me I could go into IC blind and by God that's a whole load of bullshit. Apparently Batman had some omnipotent Satellite and robots were attacking people and Super-Boy (Prime? I think he was the homoerotic one from back in the day...) punched what people now refer to as retcon glass. I mean, once I sat down with it I could gather that the world was erupting in chaos and so forth but the beginning was what confused me, and more importantly how Batman could make such a dick move.
The second Simonson trade has proved impossible for me to find, but it's worth tracking down the back issues if you're not too attached to the trade format. I love Thor's Sigurd Jarlson secret identity, which is just Thor in glasses and a t-shirt. He's still like seven feet tall and incredibly muscular, just dressed differently.
and yet, even superman doesn't recognize him in that getup
Is his story in any books or miniseries? Because that sounds interesting.
Yeah, there's a whole trade about his origin. It's not too long, but it's a little old. It details his birth, adolesence, and his official "becoming" of Apocalypse. I wish I could remember anything more about it to be actually helpful, like what it's called. . .
The Rise of Apocalypse by Terry Kavanagh and Adam Pollina. Dunno if it's any good as I haven't read it.
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Is Immortal Iron Fist any good? I might add it to my subscription list, but I wanted to hear some opinions before I spent money on it.
But yeah he's actually quite badass. He's in charge of a huge corporation and he hasn't a fucking clue how shit runs, all the while he foils his various enemies. I've enjoyed it.
-kicking
-punching
-doing the forementioned to terrorists in green spandex suits
-flashbacks to past Iron Fists in varied art styles
-building off the previous point, Pirate Iron Fist and WWII Soldier Iron Fist
-a witty, likeable protagonist
-beautiful art
-smart, intriguing writing
-shady corporate espionage
-one of the best damn creative teams ever
Things The Immortal Iron Fist Does Not Have
-impenetrable continuity
-crappy filler issues
-things that suck
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If you haven't read the Tower of Babel JLA arc, you should probably pick that up.
And I'd personally say pick up the Under The Hood trades, but Jason Todd is pretty unpopular around here, so I don't know if anybody else would agree with me.
I was under the impression that:
Mutate: Not an X-Gene mutant, but not a normal human(Spider-man, the Hulk, Captain America)
Mutant: X-Gene
Metahuman: Anyone with powers(even Iron Man pre-Extremis)
Meaning Namor is a mutate, but in real-world science he's a mutant in that he is a deviation of the normal Atlantians.
But I say we just call him a Metahuman and be done with it.
Which means while a mutant, Jazz(blue skin) was not a metahuman.
Dear Whippy,
...who in the world thinks Something Positive is a Penny Arcade ripoff?
Penny Arcade is a well-drawn, three-to-four panel comic with strips that are usually videogame-related, are always intended as humorous, and has no continuity whatsoever.
Something Positive is a mediocrely-drawn comic four-to-whatever panel comic with no particular theme, with a number of strips which intentionally do not have jokes, and which has an ongoing storyline.
The only similarity I can think of is that both use the word "fuck" a lot.
If I was three or four years younger I might've had to read Runaways for school.
I don't think it contradicts this at all. I mean, no one in En-Sabah Nur's time knew what a mutant was, they worshiped him as a god. Additionally, if you read the X-Factor story line, there were many, many mutants born that way between Apocolypse and Namor. They were considered fey and tossed into the forest... if you've ever read any of the folklore regarding Changelings, that is what X-Factor was referring to.
Also: I have a friend that reads Elephantmen. He says I should to. Thoughts/Impressions?
Did...did you read the little caption under the comic?
Alas, I am slain.
Elephantmen is pretty rad.
Anally.
Everyone should be reading Immortal Iron Fist.
Hey there!
Anybody read the last TPB of Y:The Last Man (Kimono Dragons) ?
Now can anybody explain to me what the picture that Alter Tse'elon holds in the last pannel means ? It got me kinda confused. And it seems so pivotal to the entire story...
Thanks !
This whole "Y: The Last Man" thing sounds like it could be interesting...at least from my point of view, where all I know about it is the absolute bare minimum of it's premise.
I've also heard that it started sucking....sometime....
Should I pick up some TPBs and start reading? When should I stop?
It doesn't start sucking at all
read all of it
It shall be so
I could've done without most of the fourth trade, frankly.
It gets better after that, though.
Buy Nova, and the Essential Nova TPB, and then sleep with them.
You can get the trades. Book 1 is out now, book 2 comes out this month, and Book 3 drops in June. Also, buy the Heralds of Galactus mini and put Annihilation:Conquest on your pull list.