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ahava
Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
I need help.
I know nothing about my skin, and how to take care of it specifically. I know generally that there cleansers and face masks and toners and moisturizers, but there are so many of those things. And what order do you do them in? Here is what I have and what I've been doing recently since I started to actually care about this.
Lush Cosmetic Warrior facemask: apply on face and let dry for 5-10 minutes, then wash off in warm water. (does this have to be done in a sink, or is washing my face clean in the shower acceptable?)
Lush Herbalism face scrub: make a paste with the scrub and some water, scrub the crap out of your face and rinse off (i do this in the shower)
Nivea Daily Essentials Exfoliating gel stuff: rub it on, wash it off (also done in the shower)
Nivea Daily Essentials Toner: Dab on with cotton and let dry (done after the shower is finished)
Nivea daily Essentials Moisturizing day cream Spf 15: applied in the morning after a quick wash of the face in water. (SPF is essential down here)
I have no idea if I'm doing the process right, I have no idea if I'm using the right products for my skin type, I don't even know what my skin type is. I wake up in the morning and my face is a little oily/greasy. I'm 30 years old and I still get the monthly acne breakouts, though nowhere near as bad as when I was a teenager.
What is the proper procedure for facial cleansing? is it Mask, exfoliator, soap, toner, moisturizer? or is there another step, less steps? And how does one tell what kind of skin type they are?
gah, i hate being clueless!
I know nothing about my skin, and how to take care of it specifically. I know generally that there cleansers and face masks and toners and moisturizers, but there are so many of those things. And what order do you do them in? Here is what I have and what I've been doing recently since I started to actually care about this.
Lush Cosmetic Warrior facemask: apply on face and let dry for 5-10 minutes, then wash off in warm water. (does this have to be done in a sink, or is washing my face clean in the shower acceptable?)
Lush Herbalism face scrub: make a paste with the scrub and some water, scrub the crap out of your face and rinse off (i do this in the shower)
Nivea Daily Essentials Exfoliating gel stuff: rub it on, wash it off (also done in the shower)
Nivea Daily Essentials Toner: Dab on with cotton and let dry (done after the shower is finished)
Nivea daily Essentials Moisturizing day cream Spf 15: applied in the morning after a quick wash of the face in water. (SPF is essential down here)
I have no idea if I'm doing the process right, I have no idea if I'm using the right products for my skin type, I don't even know what my skin type is. I wake up in the morning and my face is a little oily/greasy. I'm 30 years old and I still get the monthly acne breakouts, though nowhere near as bad as when I was a teenager.
What is the proper procedure for facial cleansing? is it Mask, exfoliator, soap, toner, moisturizer? or is there another step, less steps? And how does one tell what kind of skin type they are?
gah, i hate being clueless!
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Doing everything all at once can be counter productive, having a routine is great but make sure that your routine is useful.
I'm not trying to be vague, but I'm not certain of the answer. I mean, it's skin. It doesn't ooze oil and it doesn't flake off like peeling paint (although my lips do, but that's more because I am always chewing on them. I'm trying to curb this habit). So I guess it's normal? I have blackheads on the tip of my nose that have been there since i think I was born, and I think I have large pores, but I honestly wouldn't have a clue.
oh, and I don't give a fig about wrinkles. like if I get them or not. so if there are options out there that don't involve 'ohgod you're getting old!', don't leave them out because i don't care that i'm getting old.
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Also if you have a lot of nose black heads and nose acne, and you wear glasses. Use rubbing alcohol on your glasses nose guards and ear pieces because they pick up bacteria.
and face masks are for already clean skin, not for getting the skin clean. ok, so I've been doing that backwards.
now, night creams, that i've been able to find, are all anti-aging. Am I pretty much going to be doing something like that anyways? Or can I use a regular moisturizer at night?
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Face masks have different applications depending on the mask, but you know yourself better than I know you.
This is what I was thinking for a night cream.
http://www.nivea.com.au/products/face-care/Daily Essentials/normal-and-combination-skin/regenerating-night-cream
And yeah, I have glasses, have since i was 8.
you have been super helpful, dude!
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Thanks dude, I'll take a try at this new kinda thing.
sigh.
growing up sucks.
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On the plus side we generally make more money than we did in our youth and can eat ice cream whenever we want.
so the ice cream thing...? you're a very cruel man. :P
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Do you just want to prevent the monthly breakouts?
You want something to cleanse your face once a day. I tend to do this at night since I've been out all day since I've been getting things all over my face. You can do this in the shower or at a sink. Some people use a towel or washcloth but I don't because they harbor bacteria and I think that's totally gross.
A toner starts to rehydrate and put minerals back into the skin if you use a good one. It will also extend the life of your moisturizer since you'll need less. One of the biggest things to look out for is using a toner that is full of alcohol because alcohol will dry your skin back out which defeats the purpose.
A moisturizer is good because it moisturizers. Even oily skin needs a lighter one. Day or night, whatever works best.
Masks are good to supplement a regime. You can more easily switch one up to target specific problems if your skin is having an uncooperative phase, whether it's from hormones, weather, stress, or something else. Masks are meant to go on clean skin because the point is to allow those active ingredients to get into the pores and do their job. If you're throwing a mask on top of make up or dirty skin it's just going to do a mild amount of cleaning but not really do it's job- this is especially so with the Lush masks since they are full of all those essential oils which are more effective when they can get into the skin for you! Lush masks are also clay based and like any clay based mask you don't want to do them every day, especially when you're using a cleanser. You run the risk of pulling out too much moisture from over cleansing the skin. I use these the same as cleansers: wash off with water, shower or sink is fine. With Lush masks you want them to set on 5 to 10 minutes at the most. (I looooove Cosmetic Warrior. It's my miracle mask once a month.)
Not everyone uses all these types of products and some people even add more! Spot treatments, eye creams, neck creams, extra exfoliators, and more! What you do should depend on what works best for your skin. If your skin is fine with what you're using then totally stick to it. I'd just switch around the steps some (with the mask and all.)
Out of curiosity, do you use the Nivea scrub and Herbalism every day together? If so you're pretty much double cleansing and double exfoliating so you probably don't need to do both.
I've been using Lush products for 6 years, working there for about 3.5, and I've been doing a lot of study and research on skin care so while I'm not a doctor and don't know everything I'm really informed on my companies products, a lot of essential oils in general, and I've been doing skin care consultations and treatments for a long time so if you have any questions about Lush things or specific products I can answer them.
No I don't do both the nivea and the herbalism at the same time. I'll usually go for Herbalism on most nights, but on days where I'm ultra grimy and I want that 'industrial clean' feeling, i'll go for the nivea. Which is probably one thing I should not do, the switching it up all the time.
if I were to switch to a solid Lush regimen (which I think I've slowly been working on, although I'm almost out of my herbalism, eek!), i was thinking about the tea tree toner and other things, but I'm not sure. I kinda want to go into my Lush store and just have the girls play with my face for a bit.
My standard thing, so far, has been to do the mask 2 days a week (although not on a clean face, gonna change that), then to wash with either herbalism/nivea, finish my shower, then do the toner and the moisturizer. Sometimes I skip the toner and moisturizer all together.
I'm not really looking to prevent the breakouts, just trying to get into a better rhythm/regimen/habit and maybe have my skin not look quite so... well, young? dull? I mean, I don't want to look old, but I already have people that lowball my age by at least 3 years, I don't need to be carded for everything.
I might just come assault your PM box, Rad. It's all your fault. :P
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I would say going into the shop to have someone to really sit down and play with everything and talk about it is the best way to go but any basic questions I'm still here! (Also my manager is going to do a week in one of your NZ stores in March! I should ask her which one.)
In general with skincare you want to make sure you're exfoliating at least a couple times a week. It's going to pull off the dead skin which is great not only for cleaning, but keeping the pores clear, and giving the skin a bit more of that healthy glow. You've already got the sun protection down which is another huuuge thing. Also drinking lots of water and getting sleep.
Yes. That was actually ruled out a few years ago when i was having skin problems and my hair started to fall out like whoa.
hair's back to being normal, the breakouts are less than they were, but i'm still fat. :P
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Hmm, yeah unfortunately in my and my sister's experience the bc pills best for skin are worst for weight and vice versa.
As a general note, I highly suggest going up to a higher SPF. SPF 15 is ok for preventing sunburn, but broad-spectrum sunblock between 30-50 is really best against long term effects. (Even if you don't care about wrinkles, preventing skin cancer is reason enough.) I like this sunblock because it is broad spectrum and it doesn't have a heavy scent or weight so it's great for daily use http://www.neutrogena.com/product/ultra+sheer+dry-touch+sunblock+spf+55.do?sortby=ourPicks
Sulfur soap is great for fighting t-zone oilyness, and kills the bacteria that cause blackheads to turn into pimples. Though you sort of have to hold your breath and ignore the smell when you're actually using it.
Do you happen to sleep face down or face up? If you sleep face down, it's possible that the oils/bacteria/etc are transferring from you face to your pillow (and vice versa) each night. Assuming this is the case, one way to help is to either wash the cases very frequently or learn to sleep face up.
That's actually the opposite of what I've heard. As I understand, the FDA specifically tried to block suncreens from advertising high values because the protection they provide is misleading. According to the math, SPF 2 blocks 50%, SPF 15 blocks 93%, SPF 30 blocks 97%, SPF 50 blocks 98%, SPF 70 blocks 98.6%, SPF 90 blocks 98.9%. The typical causes of failure is not due to being too low SPF, but because it will run off, get washed off, miss getting applied, or have some other similar problem. It's much safer to just frequently reapply and apply more generously than rely on something that's a higher SPF.
Also, just making you sure you wash your pillow cases frequently can help. Or a quick, daily spritz with a diluted tea tree or witch hazel spray.
I feel so stupid for never thinking of this before. I get little break outs in that area, I've been wiping the nose guard and bridge area of my glasses a few times a day with a dry cloth but it (obviously) hasn't been helping.
Thanks Zepherin!
seriously, best new thing.
now to just get some rubbing alcohol.
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Anyone know how legit that is?
edit: Obviously, if you did plan to do this a lot you'd probably want one of the safe lamps. Since wrinkles and cancer are sort of worse than acne.
The FDA also wants to make sunblocks between 2-14 carry a warning that they are not shown to prevent against long term effects of the sun. Which would make 15 the bare minimum.