I'm a south american (argentinian, not brazilian, thank god XD) and I can't wait for a Latin LoL server, I have pretty good internet connection and I still can't get "green" pings on either the US or EUW servers. Every time I admit I'm a foreigner I get people (not everyone, just the occasional dickhead) kindly telling me in chat that I shouldn't take it personally but I don't have a right to play this free game and should go play soccer barefoot like the rest of "my people".
Totally unrelated, but watching the CLG streams I get this feeling that they all resent each other, so much bickering every damn time. The fact that they kicked out the one guy who'd go "children, please, let's just keep playing" probably didn't help.
Totally unrelated, but watching the CLG streams I get this feeling that they all resent each other, so much bickering every damn time. The fact that they kicked out the one guy who'd go "children, please, let's just keep playing" probably didn't help.
I agree. I think CLG is a team made up of good players, just not good team players.
My advice, btw, if you don't own Viktor, is to wait for a free week.
I don't think I've had that little fun playing LOL since I randomed Eve. I don't know what it is about him, but I just find him deeply, deeply unenjoyable.
Totally unrelated, but watching the CLG streams I get this feeling that they all resent each other, so much bickering every damn time. The fact that they kicked out the one guy who'd go "children, please, let's just keep playing" probably didn't help.
I agree. I think CLG is a team made up of good players, just not good team players.
same, I think they all play well just not so well together. I think each member of CLG's core team thinks they are in charge so it kinda starts the arguments or lack of proper decisions.
yea i agree saint usually makes the best decisions in the game, I think its cause as the jungle he has to be aware of the lanes and such at all the times. Although I know Solo top is supposed to keep map awareness.
Thanks for the riven builds. I had been building her really badly after wriggles and CDR boots, and still doing pretty good. Atma's was like my 4th item on her, after IE thinking that was good.
yea i agree saint usually makes the best decisions in the game, I think its cause as the jungle he has to be aware of the lanes and such at all the times. Although I know Solo top is supposed to keep map awareness.
yeah but hotshot is their solo top more often than not and his map awareness is fucking terrible
Thanks for the riven builds. I had been building her really badly after wriggles and CDR boots, and still doing pretty good. Atma's was like my 4th item on her, after IE thinking that was good.
Atma's isn't horrible, but she doesn't hugely need the crit. If you really need armor, just dedicate a full slot to one of the big three.
Atma's is a spectacular item if you make use of crit and armor. If you don't have any use for one or both of those stats, it's always better to go with something else. Riven is one of a very small handful of bruisers who can't use it super effectively because she isn't really a bruiser, she's a whorebitch an AD caster who also can carry.
Hello, LoLs thread. I find myself coming back to it after a long hiatus from when I first started. I have some questions about Leona, as she is currently my favorite champion.
If anyone here plays her, can you give me some advice on how to build her? I usually get a Shurelyas, sunfire, merc/ionian depending on team comp, and same with force of nature/banshees veil and...after that Im a bit stumped.
Would appreciate the help, you fine PAers!
So a couple of things. I hate support Leona a lot. This stems from my belief that if you're running a support and it isn't Soraka/Sona you're wasting time, but also because Leona is way too baller for that shit. Leona shoots orbital doom lasers that stun everything, and she has two more stuns on top of that. I know E isn't technically a stun, but it does tell someone they don't get to leave a fight which isn't dramatically different.
The way I see it, Leona's job is to have a non-worthless teammate at all times and then initiate all of the fights and give none of the fucks.
So, I take E at level 1 and run Flash/Ignite. My masteries are 9/21/0 taking CDR in offense and defense because your job is stunning someone's face off. I run flat armor yellows, MP 5/level blues, armor pen reds, and flat damage quints. This gives me early game lany bullying potential while letting me more easily spam crazy shenanigans late game.
I take CDR boots and build defensive items based on what I'm seeing. High priority buys are Aegis, Randuin's Omen, Frozen Heart. Aegis is pretty much the midgame buy and with it you can goad even bad teams into winning fights. I try to hit 40% CDR on my build as fast as possible, so look hard at CDR items. Leona can lock down 1-3 people on the enemy team fairly well at that much CDR but you are sacrificing some defense to get that. Again, if your team doesn't blow ass, you'll be fine.
You don't need to build damage and you don't really need to focus on CS. Grab all of the assist gold and stay in on all of the fights, and your economy should smooth out nicely.
I've been dicking around with Skarner and fuck, you can't build him wrong. He just rocks everything.
They kind of made him scale well (or at least OK) with literally every stat and made all his abilities synergize with each other, so yeah, he's pretty insane. He jungles like hell, ganks absurdly well, and still pulls good lategame DPS for a tanky guy who can solo anybody he gets in on who isn't Udyr or Warwick. The only thing he really doesn't do well is straight up AP or standard carry build DPS (on hit+triforce DPS works OK, though).
wow kog'maw remains ridiculously good as long as you play a conservative early game and farm up at least one attack speed item with bonus damage on hit
So a couple of things. I hate support Leona a lot. This stems from my belief that if you're running a support and it isn't Soraka/Sona you're wasting time, but also because Leona is way too baller for that shit.
I disagree with this statement completely.
Support Leona is amazing with the right lane partner. I would never solo queue with her, but my friend and I duo queued some ranked earlier and one game was Vayne(me) +Leona(him).
We killed everything at will, and I came out of lane so fed that they should have made Vayne wear sweatpants instead of leather.
Shyvana continues to puzzle me on build. Mercenary Treads and Wriggle's Lantern, then get a Triforce built. That much is duh. It's what's next that continues to get pondered. I can slot and extra Vampiric Scepter in along the way of the above, and then build a Bloodthirster as I grab some more attack speed. The gives her a lot of life steal and damage, but she dies to CC. The alternative tends to be getting an Atma's impaler for the extra armor, critical, and attack damage. Then I try to nab some extra health for her.
Sometimes the enemy team make's it simpler because I can just go with whoever is the biggest threat, and then building to their speed/type of dps. For example, with a champ who normally runs high life steal, I build that route so I won't lose out to it. Against champs who focus more on CC, I go the healthy route.
Which means my last two items tend to either be Atmogs, or Wit's End and Bloodthirster.
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HoG, Merc's/Tabi, Phage, Wit's End, Randuin's Omen is my basic Shyv build.
She basically doesn't do shit unless you have good attack speed and slow.
Triforce is not particularly amazing on her outside of Metagolem.
Brazilians are pretty well-known for being very insular and xenophobic themselves in online communities. In a game like LoL so heavy on communication, putting a language barrier up might not be a bad thing - in the form of giving Brazilian only servers, that is.
Oh I'll agree that it's pretty annoying when you're playing with anyone that can't understand even basic English. But it's nowhere near as common as people make it sound. I've played with enough Brazilians, Chinese, Koreans, Russians and others that either had good enough English to communicate or at least understood the game enough to utilize pings properly.
As for claiming an entire nationality is "well-known" for being xenophobic themselves... well, let's just say that seems like an attempt to write off prejudice.
Pretty much everyone in this thread can attest to how much of a pain having uncooperative groups on your team can be, and Brazilian premade duos - or all the seeming Korean pairs I get - are very much that.
Just like all those duos of Vent buddies that insta-lock two solo Top characters, claim Bot for themselves, then the people that picked a ranged AD or AP Mid to balance out the bro-duo's stupid picks are forced to take Top, usually with a character poorly suited for it.
And I'll tell you straight up that the little scenario I described above happens way more often than uncooperative foreigner duos.
My advice, btw, if you don't own Viktor, is to wait for a free week.
I don't think I've had that little fun playing LOL since I randomed Eve. I don't know what it is about him, but I just find him deeply, deeply unenjoyable.
So it wasn't just me. I love the character design and the overall concept, but he just doesn't do much for me. I can respect a champion with a higher skill-cap, but only if it's fun learning him.
I don't care for the way his passive is implemented and I think the stats on the Cores need some serious tweaking. His range is terrible across the board save for his W with a blue Core. His E is pretty hard to land considering how expensive the mana cost is. His Q has short range and takes way too long to apply the shield, which seriously defeats its purpose.
Shyvana continues to puzzle me on build. Mercenary Treads and Wriggle's Lantern, then get a Triforce built. That much is duh. It's what's next that continues to get pondered. I can slot and extra Vampiric Scepter in along the way of the above, and then build a Bloodthirster as I grab some more attack speed. The gives her a lot of life steal and damage, but she dies to CC. The alternative tends to be getting an Atma's impaler for the extra armor, critical, and attack damage. Then I try to nab some extra health for her.
Sometimes the enemy team make's it simpler because I can just go with whoever is the biggest threat, and then building to their speed/type of dps. For example, with a champ who normally runs high life steal, I build that route so I won't lose out to it. Against champs who focus more on CC, I go the healthy route.
Which means my last two items tend to either be Atmogs, or Wit's End and Bloodthirster.
This is kind of how I feel with renekton sometimes
Like, sometimes I just build all the tanky ish DPS items I can (wriggles, frozen mallet, ghostblade, atmas,) and I just tear people up and never die
Other times I feel completely useless
I kind of want a champ that isn't vlad who would do great with an all life steal build
Thanks for the riven builds. I had been building her really badly after wriggles and CDR boots, and still doing pretty good. Atma's was like my 4th item on her, after IE thinking that was good.
if your team is getting picked to part because of a lack of a tank I think it is acceptable to build randuins and a FoN instead of a hexdrinker. At that point your stun should be saving lives and winning fights while you're able to escape them all with HP regen and chase down stragglers.
i have been wrong before though.
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saint was rushing frozen mallet on her earlier tonight and seemed to have some decent success
he thinks early oracles is critical to successful ganks
Although you can rush a Giant's belt to good effect, I don't think rushing FM is worth it.
Her Q is two instant attacks, both of which can proc the slow. With decent attack speed and Phage, you should keep the slow on them all the time. And if you're jungling, you've got red buff.
At which point, is the 825g for the improved slow (and almost no stats) worth it?
This is kind of how I feel with renekton sometimes
Renekton is just plain bad, I'm sorry to say. All he really needs are slight scaling and base stat buffs, but Riot doesn't seem like they're going to give them to him.
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That's just like "you will never win a teamfight. NEVER."
Totally unrelated, but watching the CLG streams I get this feeling that they all resent each other, so much bickering every damn time. The fact that they kicked out the one guy who'd go "children, please, let's just keep playing" probably didn't help.
clg got outpicked so hilariously bad
and then hotshot did some real stupid solo queue shit
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Also, scarra with 380 CS at 33 minutes. Nutso.
that too
i dunno it's like saint just said, galio doesn't feel like as much of a solid pick any more with the prevalence of cleanse again
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on a whim from the sale I got monarch kog'maw and omg so adorable
did you see his fuckin eyelashes?
shit be glamorous
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Gorgeous. Also his flutter as he runs.
5 bloodthirsters and CDR boots
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Take all the CDR talents
CDR boots
Youmuu's
BT
BT
LW
Randuin's if you dont have CDR runes, Mallet otherwise?
Wriggles, Ionian's, Brutalizer, optional Hexdrinker, optional Phage, Bloodthirster
if necessary, swap Ionian's for Merc's
Ghostblade is somewhat skippable. Depending on cooldowns, she doesn't attack *that* much in a row unless you're mistiming your abilities.
I agree. I think CLG is a team made up of good players, just not good team players.
I don't think I've had that little fun playing LOL since I randomed Eve. I don't know what it is about him, but I just find him deeply, deeply unenjoyable.
same, I think they all play well just not so well together. I think each member of CLG's core team thinks they are in charge so it kinda starts the arguments or lack of proper decisions.
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nobody else on the team can convey instructions and goals and when to initiate like he can, and he doesn't make bad calls very often
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yeah but hotshot is their solo top more often than not and his map awareness is fucking terrible
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So a couple of things. I hate support Leona a lot. This stems from my belief that if you're running a support and it isn't Soraka/Sona you're wasting time, but also because Leona is way too baller for that shit. Leona shoots orbital doom lasers that stun everything, and she has two more stuns on top of that. I know E isn't technically a stun, but it does tell someone they don't get to leave a fight which isn't dramatically different.
The way I see it, Leona's job is to have a non-worthless teammate at all times and then initiate all of the fights and give none of the fucks.
So, I take E at level 1 and run Flash/Ignite. My masteries are 9/21/0 taking CDR in offense and defense because your job is stunning someone's face off. I run flat armor yellows, MP 5/level blues, armor pen reds, and flat damage quints. This gives me early game lany bullying potential while letting me more easily spam crazy shenanigans late game.
I take CDR boots and build defensive items based on what I'm seeing. High priority buys are Aegis, Randuin's Omen, Frozen Heart. Aegis is pretty much the midgame buy and with it you can goad even bad teams into winning fights. I try to hit 40% CDR on my build as fast as possible, so look hard at CDR items. Leona can lock down 1-3 people on the enemy team fairly well at that much CDR but you are sacrificing some defense to get that. Again, if your team doesn't blow ass, you'll be fine.
You don't need to build damage and you don't really need to focus on CS. Grab all of the assist gold and stay in on all of the fights, and your economy should smooth out nicely.
i almost
almost bought that
BUT i held out because butterflies are just stupid day-moths
and I mean, cmon
Kog'moth is a hilarious pun
thanks rivs
gotta remember how to build him
all attack speed goooo
They kind of made him scale well (or at least OK) with literally every stat and made all his abilities synergize with each other, so yeah, he's pretty insane. He jungles like hell, ganks absurdly well, and still pulls good lategame DPS for a tanky guy who can solo anybody he gets in on who isn't Udyr or Warwick. The only thing he really doesn't do well is straight up AP or standard carry build DPS (on hit+triforce DPS works OK, though).
if you need to soften them up use your r first and end with a q
luv u kog'maw
I disagree with this statement completely.
Support Leona is amazing with the right lane partner. I would never solo queue with her, but my friend and I duo queued some ranked earlier and one game was Vayne(me) +Leona(him).
We killed everything at will, and I came out of lane so fed that they should have made Vayne wear sweatpants instead of leather.
Vayne
Leona
Sometimes the enemy team make's it simpler because I can just go with whoever is the biggest threat, and then building to their speed/type of dps. For example, with a champ who normally runs high life steal, I build that route so I won't lose out to it. Against champs who focus more on CC, I go the healthy route.
Which means my last two items tend to either be Atmogs, or Wit's End and Bloodthirster.
She basically doesn't do shit unless you have good attack speed and slow.
Triforce is not particularly amazing on her outside of Metagolem.
he thinks early oracles is critical to successful ganks
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Oh I'll agree that it's pretty annoying when you're playing with anyone that can't understand even basic English. But it's nowhere near as common as people make it sound. I've played with enough Brazilians, Chinese, Koreans, Russians and others that either had good enough English to communicate or at least understood the game enough to utilize pings properly.
As for claiming an entire nationality is "well-known" for being xenophobic themselves... well, let's just say that seems like an attempt to write off prejudice.
Just like all those duos of Vent buddies that insta-lock two solo Top characters, claim Bot for themselves, then the people that picked a ranged AD or AP Mid to balance out the bro-duo's stupid picks are forced to take Top, usually with a character poorly suited for it.
And I'll tell you straight up that the little scenario I described above happens way more often than uncooperative foreigner duos.
So it wasn't just me. I love the character design and the overall concept, but he just doesn't do much for me. I can respect a champion with a higher skill-cap, but only if it's fun learning him.
I don't care for the way his passive is implemented and I think the stats on the Cores need some serious tweaking. His range is terrible across the board save for his W with a blue Core. His E is pretty hard to land considering how expensive the mana cost is. His Q has short range and takes way too long to apply the shield, which seriously defeats its purpose.
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LET'S ALL GO WATCH HIM FOR THINGS TO MAKE FUN OF
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This is kind of how I feel with renekton sometimes
Like, sometimes I just build all the tanky ish DPS items I can (wriggles, frozen mallet, ghostblade, atmas,) and I just tear people up and never die
Other times I feel completely useless
I kind of want a champ that isn't vlad who would do great with an all life steal build
suggestions?
could I make that work with renekton?
if your team is getting picked to part because of a lack of a tank I think it is acceptable to build randuins and a FoN instead of a hexdrinker. At that point your stun should be saving lives and winning fights while you're able to escape them all with HP regen and chase down stragglers.
i have been wrong before though.
Her Q is two instant attacks, both of which can proc the slow. With decent attack speed and Phage, you should keep the slow on them all the time. And if you're jungling, you've got red buff.
At which point, is the 825g for the improved slow (and almost no stats) worth it?
Renekton is just plain bad, I'm sorry to say. All he really needs are slight scaling and base stat buffs, but Riot doesn't seem like they're going to give them to him.