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[Starcraft2] "Zerg can't beat protoss." - Idra

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  • TrunkersTrunkers Registered User regular
    MNC Dover wrote:
    Yeah fake and all, but still cute.
    I don't think you need to spoiler the fact that it's fake.

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  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    inca's build on daybreak vs bomber was pretty cool man

  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited January 2012
    edit - oh edited in case you are not aware of the outcome, sorry

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  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    nah man, i never read the thread until i've seen the games i want to, dw

  • kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    The InCa/Bomber series was pretty adorable.

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  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    cool

    anyway yeah, I didn't expect bomber to go out but at least it has led to better racial distribution to this point.

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  • BiosysBiosys Registered User regular
    if inca just had ok pvz i would like him a lot more

  • SceptreSceptre Registered User regular
    Hmm, I keep feeling like inca probably has some pretty cool stuff up his sleeve, but he's never really impressed me. At least not in the same way the Hero/FXO_z/MC have.

  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    oz was outstanding last night

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  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    edited January 2012
    Inca's PvZ is so bad that it makes it really easy to overlook is PvP/T.

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  • RofflorRofflor Adventurer Registered User regular
    edited January 2012
    Man, nothing feels like ending a good winning streak by choosing terran by mistake.
    Edit: One can argue that choosing terran is always a mistake.

    I also realise that I am terrible, so terrible, at offracing. My zerg is maybe low gold. My terran is like... wood leauge.

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  • KeamienKeamien Registered User regular
    Rofflor wrote:
    Man, nothing feels like ending a good winning streak by choosing terran by mistake.
    Edit: One can argue that choosing terran is always a mistake.

    I also realise that I am terrible, so terrible, at offracing. My zerg is maybe low gold. My terran is like... wood leauge.

    Surprisingly enough, it seems like most people who try offracing terran do much worse at it than those that try offracing as protoss or zerg.

  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    edited January 2012
    It's the shame that cripples gameplay when offracing as T.

    The shame drives the desire to sabotage one's own build for the sake of justice and all that is holy.

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  • SceptreSceptre Registered User regular
    I only caught the first pair of Oz games, but neither of them really stood out to me. Were his games later on worth watching?

  • SceptreSceptre Registered User regular
    Keamien wrote:
    Rofflor wrote:
    Man, nothing feels like ending a good winning streak by choosing terran by mistake.
    Edit: One can argue that choosing terran is always a mistake.

    I also realise that I am terrible, so terrible, at offracing. My zerg is maybe low gold. My terran is like... wood leauge.

    Surprisingly enough, it seems like most people who try offracing terran do much worse at it than those that try offracing as protoss or zerg.

    For me, it's very matchup specific. My TvP and ZvP are both probably high platinum/low diamond, but the other matchups are pretty rough because I don't have a good grip on the timings. I love playing TvZ or ZvT though, such fun matchups.

  • RofflorRofflor Adventurer Registered User regular
    I actually thought "I can do this, its protoss, I know what kills me!"
    Then I build the 12 barracks, 16 oc and realised I knew NOTHING else.

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  • SeguerSeguer of the Void Sydney, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    Rofflor wrote:
    I actually thought "I can do this, its protoss, I know what kills me!"
    Then I build the 12 barracks, 16 oc and realised I knew NOTHING else.

    I think it's 15 OC

    :D

  • BiosysBiosys Registered User regular
    edited January 2012
    15 OC vs 16 OC is a debate rivalled in dumbness only by the 9 overlord vs extractor trick debate

    trying to remember the fancy tl topic i saw with graphs and such

    i thiiiinkk 16OC works out better in the long run

    there were a lot of bars and lines and stuff

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  • SeguerSeguer of the Void Sydney, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    But.. but faster Mules!

  • stimtokolosstimtokolos Registered User regular
    Seguer wrote:
    Rofflor wrote:
    I actually thought "I can do this, its protoss, I know what kills me!"
    Then I build the 12 barracks, 16 oc and realised I knew NOTHING else.

    I think it's 15 OC

    :D

    It definitely was until they increased barracks build time by 5 seconds.
    I think that is where the uncertainty comes up (it doesn't line up perfectly with what people used to do).

  • BiosysBiosys Registered User regular
    Seguer wrote:
    But.. but faster Mules!

    listen

    the person who made this topic had clearly spent a lot of time in excel in high school

    i think i trust them a lot more than i trust you

  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    edited January 2012
    I know it's hardly a big deal but I still get a tiny bit annoyed at seeing almost every pro Korean Z extractor trick instead of 9ol.

    edit: on the other hand that does mean i'm better than nestea up until 10 food though

    take that

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    I'm pretty sure that extractor trick gets you more drones slightly earlier which I guess Koreans like for cheese defense?

  • LilnoobsLilnoobs Alpha Queue Registered User regular
    double extractor trick
    new hotness

  • mEEksamEEksa Registered User regular
    It also pisses me off when I see professional players extractor trick. I doubt there is any reasoning behind it, it's just a stubborn holdover from BW.

  • YiliasYilias Registered User regular
    The thread on it was here.

    His math says 16 OC nets you 15 minerals over 15 OC at the 10 minute mark unless you 1Rax FE in which case 15 OC nets you 70 minerals over 16 OC.

    The difference is negligible, especially given that in practice no one is going to have perfect worker production for 10 whole minutes.

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  • RofflorRofflor Adventurer Registered User regular
    +15 minerals at the 10 min mark? Holy fuck my 16 OC is gosu.

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  • shwaipshwaip Registered User regular
    Dhalphir wrote:
    I'm pretty sure that extractor trick gets you more drones slightly earlier which I guess Koreans like for cheese defense?

    yeah that's the reason to do it. You end up with an extra drone when a 6 pool hits or something.

  • ImpyrockerImpyrocker Registered User regular
    MMMig wrote:
    It's the shame that cripples gameplay when offracing as T.

    The shame drives the desire to sabotage one's own build for the sake of justice and all that is holy.

    Actually though. Whenever I played as terran and I'd try to all-in, the subconscious shame would make me hold back most of my SCVs, and so it'd fail.
    :D

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  • kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited January 2012
    Dhalphir wrote:
    I'm pretty sure that extractor trick gets you more drones slightly earlier which I guess Koreans like for cheese defense?

    No. Very, very fractionally less economical, nothing else really to note about it.

    e: 6 pools don't even hit in time for extractor trick to provide you with more drones at that moment, by something like a minute.

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  • RofflorRofflor Adventurer Registered User regular
    Dhal, do you have the link to blackcitadels/supermanSG stream now?
    I haven't seem him in forever but I liked his playstyle so much back then.

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  • TannerMSTannerMS "I'm confidence cause I'm zerg!" Registered User regular
    I think the koreans do it to troll us

  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    Rofflor wrote:
    Dhal, do you have the link to blackcitadels/supermanSG stream now?
    I haven't seem him in forever but I liked his playstyle so much back then.

    http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/TypeReaL

  • fatalspoonsfatalspoons Registered User regular
    TannerMS wrote:
    I think the koreans do it to troll us

    They do everything to troll us. They don't even like Starcraft, they just play it to troll us.

  • SeguerSeguer of the Void Sydney, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2012
    EDIT: shit

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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    OK, I'm finally home, and I need a place to put all these hatcheries.


    To chan PA (and the mumbles)!!


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  • SceptreSceptre Registered User regular
    In case anyone was wondering, you can place directly into diamond after placement. Just did it on SEA.

  • kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    Sceptre wrote:
    In case anyone was wondering, you can place directly into diamond after placement. Just did it on SEA.

    Surprised it didn't place you straight into GM!

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  • SeguerSeguer of the Void Sydney, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    Did it turn out to actually be SEA or another region, Scep?

  • SceptreSceptre Registered User regular
    edited January 2012
    Real SEA. I had a friend who was visiting hong Kong who claimed he had found a bunch of korean copies of the game, but what probably happened was he just found boxes with asian characters on them and he didn't realize what language they were.

    Regardless, I ended up buy a Korean account anyways, and now I have altogether way too many Starcraft accounts. Especially since now I get an extra NA account.

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