If you live in a sub-urb, and you own a boat, which you keep covered up by a tarp inside your garage or driveway, you are perhaps the biggest tard ever.
Second biggest tard. The biggest tard would be the person who jams a hyphen into "suburb."
Nooooooooooo... ESL has come back to haunt me once more.
Does it go WooooOOOooOOOoOOOO all the time? Whenever I get haunted, it's that super-stereotypical ghost noise, and then when I say that ghosts sound like that, everyone says I'm being a bigot and compares me to Rosie O'Donnell.
Yeah I do understand alimony in the case that the woman did all the work of raising children. In the event of "fault" divorces, like, one of the people had an affair, fucking nail that person to the cross, I don't care. But going back to no-fault, I still don't see how a percentage is fair. If a woman could make, say, $50,000 a year, and she's divorcing someone who makes $1,000,000 a year, why should he have to pay her $500,000 in alimony? Her child-rearing service doesn't become ten times as valuable just because he made a lot of money while she raised the kids.
Also I think alimony should wean off pretty quickly; she should be motivated to get a job, and economic means are the best way to do it. Yeah, getting a good job after 15 years of not working can be a bitch, but she should be working on building a career or whatever IMMEDIATELY, not just coasting along as a leech indefinitely.
True, and that's an issue that probably needs to be discussed by the law at some point.
It's still unlikely to happen to you, though!
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I hate designer labels and junk, then I look in my closet and see a bunch of gators and polo dudes on my shirts, and feel like an adult, because being an adult means spending money on stuff you don't really need to let everyone else know that you can afford to waste money and junk. Yay America
Funny, I never got the impression that wasting money on crap is what makes you an adult. And here I am, an adult, and I don't waste money on crap. So I guess I'm from a different America? Even though I live in a very rich area.
Personally, I think saving money where possible is awesome. Being wasteful is more immature.
Exactly, which is why NOT buying stupid, wasteful shit looks far more adult to me than needing to show off how much cash you can waste.
I think the $1000 purse would only be a good purchase if you earned it (e.g., big success in your work), rather than blew the cash on it that you really should have been putting towards your mortgage or car payments. In the former sense, I wouldn't consider it wasteful, but instead a nice reward for yourself (assuming you liked the style of the bag and weren't just buying it to be trendy or something).
I hate designer labels and junk, then I look in my closet and see a bunch of gators and polo dudes on my shirts, and feel like an adult, because being an adult means spending money on stuff you don't really need to let everyone else know that you can afford to waste money and junk. Yay America
Funny, I never got the impression that wasting money on crap is what makes you an adult. And here I am, an adult, and I don't waste money on crap. So I guess I'm from a different America? Even though I live in a very rich area.
Personally, I think saving money where possible is awesome. Being wasteful is more immature.
Exactly, which is why NOT buying stupid, wasteful shit looks far more adult to me than needing to show off how much cash you can waste.
I think the $1000 purse would only be a good purchase if you earned it (e.g., big success in your work), rather than blew the cash on it that you really should have been putting towards your mortgage or car payments. In the former sense, I wouldn't consider it wasteful, but instead a nice reward for yourself (assuming you liked the style of the bag and weren't just buying it to be trendy or something).
Basically I wish that women were more like men, except, you know, sexy.
I don't have a problem with certain feminine behaviors, but I really want a girl who's practical, and to be perfectly honest, the breakdown by gender of practical people I've met tends heavily toward the male side.
Family friend had a shitty divorce after his wife cheated on him by using his credit cards to take expensive vacations to hawaii with her lover(s) when he was away (he's a truck driver). Anyways, she got the house, car and a lot of money in the end. How it makes sense, I do not know.
I hate designer labels and junk, then I look in my closet and see a bunch of gators and polo dudes on my shirts, and feel like an adult, because being an adult means spending money on stuff you don't really need to let everyone else know that you can afford to waste money and junk. Yay America
Funny, I never got the impression that wasting money on crap is what makes you an adult. And here I am, an adult, and I don't waste money on crap. So I guess I'm from a different America? Even though I live in a very rich area.
Personally, I think saving money where possible is awesome. Being wasteful is more immature.
Exactly, which is why NOT buying stupid, wasteful shit looks far more adult to me than needing to show off how much cash you can waste.
I think the $1000 purse would only be a good purchase if you earned it (e.g., big success in your work), rather than blew the cash on it that you really should have been putting towards your mortgage or car payments. In the former sense, I wouldn't consider it wasteful, but instead a nice reward for yourself (assuming you liked the style of the bag and weren't just buying it to be trendy or something).
Basically I wish that women were more like men, except, you know, sexy.
I don't have a problem with certain feminine behaviors, but I really want a girl who's practical, and to be perfectly honest, the breakdown by gender of practical people I've met tends heavily toward the male side.
Might be good to travel a bit before you settle down. Different cultures are going to foster different mindsets, you might find some are a lot more utilitarian than your average North American.
Point is, I want to know where the line lies between a good compromise and settling for whoever I'm dating when some magic age number rolls around.
Believe me, I know exactly what you're talking about. Here's my current view on the situation.
If you ever feel like you're giving up too much of yourself (so much that you're not yourself anymore) to be with someone, it's bad and a dependent relationship. Your own life and career are what are going to make you happy, and you want someone to share it with you, not take it from you. So that's point one.
Point two is that marriage to me has one purpose that I don't see ever going away, and that is raising children. When you're of the age where you want to have children, you should take into consideration who you would want to raise them with. Having kids and a wife requires some sacrifices. But at some point, those sacrifices will be worth the benefits of having a family unit for yourself.
So that's my theory at the moment, not that it's really gone into implementation yet. Both of my long-term relationships have been with fairly controlling women. Basically from that I just decided to stop dating crazy college girls, which is fine since I'm out of college now anyway.
Some women may spend way too much on purses, but I think men are just as bad, though they have different interests.
If a man has enough money, he might buy some expensive wine or cognac, a nice suit, or a car that is twice as big and luxurious as he needs it to be, and women may find this riduculous.
Of course this doesn't count for all men, but I know it does for me :P.
Basically I wish that women were more like men, except, you know, sexy.
I don't have a problem with certain feminine behaviors, but I really want a girl who's practical, and to be perfectly honest, the breakdown by gender of practical people I've met tends heavily toward the male side.
I hate designer labels and junk, then I look in my closet and see a bunch of gators and polo dudes on my shirts, and feel like an adult, because being an adult means spending money on stuff you don't really need to let everyone else know that you can afford to waste money and junk. Yay America
Funny, I never got the impression that wasting money on crap is what makes you an adult. And here I am, an adult, and I don't waste money on crap. So I guess I'm from a different America? Even though I live in a very rich area.
Personally, I think saving money where possible is awesome. Being wasteful is more immature.
Exactly, which is why NOT buying stupid, wasteful shit looks far more adult to me than needing to show off how much cash you can waste.
I think the $1000 purse would only be a good purchase if you earned it (e.g., big success in your work), rather than blew the cash on it that you really should have been putting towards your mortgage or car payments. In the former sense, I wouldn't consider it wasteful, but instead a nice reward for yourself (assuming you liked the style of the bag and weren't just buying it to be trendy or something).
Basically I wish that women were more like men, except, you know, sexy.
I don't have a problem with certain feminine behaviors, but I really want a girl who's practical, and to be perfectly honest, the breakdown by gender of practical people I've met tends heavily toward the male side.
Agreed 100%... I have some terrible generalizations I could say, but I will spare the women of the board out of respect.
I think most guys want a girl similar to them, but I could be wrong. It turns out to be fairly unattainable, too, from what I hear.
Some women may spend way too much on purses, but I think men are just as bad, though they have different interests.
If a man has enough money, he might buy some expensive wine or cognac, a nice suit, or a car that is twice as big and luxurious as he needs it to be, and women may find this riduculous.
Of course this doesn't count for all men, but I know it does for me :P.
i'd buy a house
you know...to live in
with my supermodel wife
and honor student kids
and sexy poolboy
and naked french maid
Hey, now, be fair - a lot of women have equally valid generalisations to make about men. I'm far from being a typical female in many respects, but I'm not about to declare men are better, either. There's exceptions on all sides :P
I've read at least two very sexist debates on the BBC of all places, so I'm a little het up (the way their boards work makes it hard for me to argue there)
Some women may spend way too much on purses, but I think men are just as bad, though they have different interests.
If a man has enough money, he might buy some expensive wine or cognac, a nice suit, or a car that is twice as big and luxurious as he needs it to be, and women may find this riduculous.
Of course this doesn't count for all men, but I know it does for me :P.
I'll buy nice wine. I'd probably buy a better TV to go with a new gaming console...in maybe a year, when there's more good stuff out. I really would not start buying luxury cars and fancy clothes and all that shit. I have no interest in material things. I don't like living in squalor, and I don't think that all material goods are evil or whatever, but I wouldn't start living like a rich man just because I have the money to do so. I'd probably eat sashimi a little more often, though.
Hey, now, be fair - a lot of women have equally valid generalisations to make about men. I'm far from being a typical female in many respects, but I'm not about to declare men are better, either. There's exceptions on all sides :P
I've read at least two very sexist debates on the BBC of all places, so I'm a little het up (the way their boards work makes it hard for me to argue there)
I think women do provide a good counterpoint and opposite point of view from men. It's a great way to learn new things.
That said, I'm just a little tired of stupid giggly girls who are really naive, retarded, and ultimately useless. Still a little sore about that last relationship...
If you live in a sub-urb, and you own a boat, which you keep covered up by a tarp inside your garage or driveway, you are perhaps the biggest tard ever.
Second biggest tard. The biggest tard would be the person who jams a hyphen into "suburb."
I don't understand. Why wouldn't you want to cover your boat when you aren't using it? Have either of you ever owned a boat?
There seems to be a miscommunication. I'm not saying that they're all harpies, out to steal my income. I'm saying that if shit doesn't go well, I don't feel the need to continue to pay you my salary. You can get a job, you can support yourself, you have no right to my money just because we used to be married. Yes I'll pay a fair sum to help you pay for our kids, but alimony is horseshit now that women are capable of contributing to the economy. And yeah, a good pre-nup would help. I wouldn't think of getting married without one. Also, even a woman who isn't "out to fleece" may change her mind through bitterness or through the suggestions of her lawyer during the divorce.
But I want to marry once and stay that way, and that's my real concern. How do I know what to look for? How do I know what elements are needed to make it last a lifetime? I see no institution that tells me this stuff. Normally, I'd ask my parents, that seems a logical place, except oops they're divorced.
Oh, yeah, alimony is complete bull. Sil, do we have alimony here?
The only time I can see alimony is justified is when a man earns a disproportionately high amount, and the woman has stayed at home to raise the kids and so is out of the job market. It is very, very hard for a woman to get a job if she's been 15 years unemployed.
There was the case of the footballer who was told to pay his wife a fairly obscene amount, but then several facts transpired:
1. He hadn't allowed her to work, so she'd stayed at home
2. She'd done 100% of the child-rearing
3. He'd had at least two affairs
4. He'd been really miserly, not allowing her to decorate the house in ten years although he'd had millions coming in, etc.
And she didn't ask for more than 50%, I think the amount she claimed was based on what she could've been earning.
But for your average couple, especially couples that are childless/where the woman has remained in work, alimony should be got rid of.
If you live in a sub-urb, and you own a boat, which you keep covered up by a tarp inside your garage or driveway, you are perhaps the biggest tard ever.
Second biggest tard. The biggest tard would be the person who jams a hyphen into "suburb."
I don't understand. Why wouldn't you want to cover your boat when you aren't using it? Have either of you ever owned a boat?
I wasn't commenting about taking care of boats. (I have not owned a boat.) I was just nitpicking grammar/spelling/whatever so I could look cool.
Defender, do you have like a list of specific requirements for a woman to be considered Mrs. Defender material, or is it more general ideas? Either way, anything on there out of the ordinary you want to share with the class?
I feel like I'm hearing a lot of 'men this' and 'women that' lately.
It's really hard to generalise about 50% of the population.
Yes, there are physical differences between genders, but that is about it. Unless you're talking about who's going to be able to run faster on average or who's more likely to be colour-blind on average, there's really not a whole lot of difference.
Defender, do you have like a list of specific requirements for a woman to be considered Mrs. Defender material, or is it more general ideas? Either way, anything on there out of the ordinary you want to share with the class?
(not meant to be mocking, just curious)
I'm not Defender, but really my only qualification is to be with someone who is smart and willing to learn (same as I am).
I have been with two dumb people now, and it does not work, because they get mad at me for not being dumb too.
If you live in a sub-urb, and you own a boat, which you keep covered up by a tarp inside your garage or driveway, you are perhaps the biggest tard ever.
Second biggest tard. The biggest tard would be the person who jams a hyphen into "suburb."
I don't understand. Why wouldn't you want to cover your boat when you aren't using it? Have either of you ever owned a boat?
I wasn't commenting about taking care of boats. (I have not owned a boat.) I was just nitpicking grammar/spelling/whatever so I could look cool.
Well are you aware of the context of his post? Because I have no idea why he would think that is stupid unless he's the retard (as you pointed out) and is simply thinking "It's a frigging boat! It's made to get wet!" If so, he's an idiot and knows nothing about boats or thereof.
BroloBroseidonLord of the BroceanRegistered Userregular
edited February 2007
Actually a car is a good example of where I differ from pretty much everyone else.
I live in a suburb (no hyphen), and aside from a day or two of snow I have no use whatsoever for four wheel drive, as I'm on a paved road 99% of the time. Really what I want is fuel economy and safety.
The again, I don't own my own car and I don't drive regularly, so I can't say much about having a "fun" sports car as a comparison. Does it actually make the drive from home to work more enjoyable? Is it some kind of experience that I'm missing out on?
Actually a car is a good example of where I differ from pretty much everyone else.
I live in a suburb (no hyphen), and aside from a day or two of snow I have no use whatsoever for four wheel drive, as I'm on a paved road 99% of the time. Really what I want is fuel economy and safety.
The again, I don't own my own car and I don't drive regularly, so I can't say much about having a "fun" sports car as a comparison. Does it actually make the drive from home to work more enjoyable? Is it some kind of experience that I'm missing out on?
Are sports cars more fun to drive? Yes. Is it worth extra monies if you don't live in an area where you can really open it up? No.
If you live in a sub-urb, and you own a boat, which you keep covered up by a tarp inside your garage or driveway, you are perhaps the biggest tard ever.
Second biggest tard. The biggest tard would be the person who jams a hyphen into "suburb."
I don't understand. Why wouldn't you want to cover your boat when you aren't using it? Have either of you ever owned a boat?
I wasn't commenting about taking care of boats. (I have not owned a boat.) I was just nitpicking grammar/spelling/whatever so I could look cool.
Well are you aware of the context of his post? Because I have no idea why he would think that is stupid unless he's the retard (as you pointed out) and is simply thinking "It's a frigging boat! It's made to get wet!" If so, he's an idiot and knows nothing about boats or thereof.
It's more about owning a $60 000+ boat and then living so far away from the nearest body of water that you have to keep this boat on your property (in this case, my neighbours bungalow, which is already cramped) for about 362 days a year, and spend about $1000 a year to maintain this boat. If you own a boat, putting a tarp over it makes sense of course, but having a boat to use it only two or three times a year seems... slightly ridiculous.
Actually a car is a good example of where I differ from pretty much everyone else.
I live in a suburb (no hyphen), and aside from a day or two of snow I have no use whatsoever for four wheel drive, as I'm on a paved road 99% of the time. Really what I want is fuel economy and safety.
The again, I don't own my own car and I don't drive regularly, so I can't say much about having a "fun" sports car as a comparison. Does it actually make the drive from home to work more enjoyable? Is it some kind of experience that I'm missing out on?
I've had two cars now, both convertibles that I got a good deal on used. The first one was a Pontiac Sunfire (4 cylinder, 2.4L). My current car is a Chevy Camaro (6 cyl, 3.8L). The Camaro is better in the sense that it's not a slow car and thus a little easier to move around on the highway, but in terms of being a sports car it doesn't add a lot for me (though it looks and sounds pretty cool).
Really the thing that matters most to me is that both cars were convertibles, because you can put the top down in nice weather and it's utterly beautiful. That and they had 10+ disc CD changers. Without either of those features, the cars would have sucked, to me. The fact that I drive a sports car now isn't that different from before, and so I don't expect I will keep going that route.
It's more about owning a $60 000+ boat and then living so far away from the nearest body of water that you have to keep this boat on your property (in this case, my neighbours bungalow, which is already cramped) for about 362 days a year, and spend about $1000 a year to maintain this boat. If you own a boat, putting a tarp over it makes sense of course, but having a boat to use it only two or three times a year seems... slightly ridiculous.
I live on a lake. A rather large one, and there are thousands of boats registered in my county. There are people who keep their boat in their own private dock, propped up on a lift for 362 days a year.
I know people who live 20 minutes from the lake, and are out on the water every weekend.
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Does it go WooooOOOooOOOoOOOO all the time? Whenever I get haunted, it's that super-stereotypical ghost noise, and then when I say that ghosts sound like that, everyone says I'm being a bigot and compares me to Rosie O'Donnell.
maybe i'm just old fashioned, though
True, and that's an issue that probably needs to be discussed by the law at some point.
It's still unlikely to happen to you, though!
Well, yeah, some hair. Even on the ol' vaschwing you need SOME hair... I'm just saying, hair isn't totally a requirement for being a foxy lady.
EDIT: "The ol' vaschwing?" This is an adult thread where adults are discussing adult things. Perhaps you mistook this for the Pokemon thread?
I think the $1000 purse would only be a good purchase if you earned it (e.g., big success in your work), rather than blew the cash on it that you really should have been putting towards your mortgage or car payments. In the former sense, I wouldn't consider it wasteful, but instead a nice reward for yourself (assuming you liked the style of the bag and weren't just buying it to be trendy or something).
by some i mean at least a few inches.
straight up buzzed just doesn't do it for me.
Oh, shit, you're right.
Basically I wish that women were more like men, except, you know, sexy.
I don't have a problem with certain feminine behaviors, but I really want a girl who's practical, and to be perfectly honest, the breakdown by gender of practical people I've met tends heavily toward the male side.
Family friend had a shitty divorce after his wife cheated on him by using his credit cards to take expensive vacations to hawaii with her lover(s) when he was away (he's a truck driver). Anyways, she got the house, car and a lot of money in the end. How it makes sense, I do not know.
Might be good to travel a bit before you settle down. Different cultures are going to foster different mindsets, you might find some are a lot more utilitarian than your average North American.
Believe me, I know exactly what you're talking about. Here's my current view on the situation.
If you ever feel like you're giving up too much of yourself (so much that you're not yourself anymore) to be with someone, it's bad and a dependent relationship. Your own life and career are what are going to make you happy, and you want someone to share it with you, not take it from you. So that's point one.
Point two is that marriage to me has one purpose that I don't see ever going away, and that is raising children. When you're of the age where you want to have children, you should take into consideration who you would want to raise them with. Having kids and a wife requires some sacrifices. But at some point, those sacrifices will be worth the benefits of having a family unit for yourself.
So that's my theory at the moment, not that it's really gone into implementation yet. Both of my long-term relationships have been with fairly controlling women. Basically from that I just decided to stop dating crazy college girls, which is fine since I'm out of college now anyway.
If a man has enough money, he might buy some expensive wine or cognac, a nice suit, or a car that is twice as big and luxurious as he needs it to be, and women may find this riduculous.
Of course this doesn't count for all men, but I know it does for me :P.
hey now, guys can be sexy, too
Agreed 100%... I have some terrible generalizations I could say, but I will spare the women of the board out of respect.
I think most guys want a girl similar to them, but I could be wrong. It turns out to be fairly unattainable, too, from what I hear.
i'd buy a house
you know...to live in
with my supermodel wife
and honor student kids
and sexy poolboy
and naked french maid
I've read at least two very sexist debates on the BBC of all places, so I'm a little het up (the way their boards work makes it hard for me to argue there)
Who was the guy who wasn't having sex til marriage even though they had already had sex?
I'll buy nice wine. I'd probably buy a better TV to go with a new gaming console...in maybe a year, when there's more good stuff out. I really would not start buying luxury cars and fancy clothes and all that shit. I have no interest in material things. I don't like living in squalor, and I don't think that all material goods are evil or whatever, but I wouldn't start living like a rich man just because I have the money to do so. I'd probably eat sashimi a little more often, though.
Okay, that's a goddamned lie. I'd put it all on a Powell's account and buy books.
Endless amounts of books.
Because God knows that I don't already have way too many.
I think women do provide a good counterpoint and opposite point of view from men. It's a great way to learn new things.
That said, I'm just a little tired of stupid giggly girls who are really naive, retarded, and ultimately useless. Still a little sore about that last relationship...
I do, and I'm really getting to the point where my requirements for marriage need to be very concrete and clear.
I don't know who that guy was. I don't recall reading that.
I don't understand. Why wouldn't you want to cover your boat when you aren't using it? Have either of you ever owned a boat?
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I wasn't commenting about taking care of boats. (I have not owned a boat.) I was just nitpicking grammar/spelling/whatever so I could look cool.
(not meant to be mocking, just curious)
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It's really hard to generalise about 50% of the population.
Yes, there are physical differences between genders, but that is about it. Unless you're talking about who's going to be able to run faster on average or who's more likely to be colour-blind on average, there's really not a whole lot of difference.
I'm not Defender, but really my only qualification is to be with someone who is smart and willing to learn (same as I am).
I have been with two dumb people now, and it does not work, because they get mad at me for not being dumb too.
Well are you aware of the context of his post? Because I have no idea why he would think that is stupid unless he's the retard (as you pointed out) and is simply thinking "It's a frigging boat! It's made to get wet!" If so, he's an idiot and knows nothing about boats or thereof.
I live in a suburb (no hyphen), and aside from a day or two of snow I have no use whatsoever for four wheel drive, as I'm on a paved road 99% of the time. Really what I want is fuel economy and safety.
The again, I don't own my own car and I don't drive regularly, so I can't say much about having a "fun" sports car as a comparison. Does it actually make the drive from home to work more enjoyable? Is it some kind of experience that I'm missing out on?
That seems to be a common problem. Bigots think races shouldn't mix? Intelligence levels is a WAY bigger issue.
Are sports cars more fun to drive? Yes. Is it worth extra monies if you don't live in an area where you can really open it up? No.
It's more about owning a $60 000+ boat and then living so far away from the nearest body of water that you have to keep this boat on your property (in this case, my neighbours bungalow, which is already cramped) for about 362 days a year, and spend about $1000 a year to maintain this boat. If you own a boat, putting a tarp over it makes sense of course, but having a boat to use it only two or three times a year seems... slightly ridiculous.
I've had two cars now, both convertibles that I got a good deal on used. The first one was a Pontiac Sunfire (4 cylinder, 2.4L). My current car is a Chevy Camaro (6 cyl, 3.8L). The Camaro is better in the sense that it's not a slow car and thus a little easier to move around on the highway, but in terms of being a sports car it doesn't add a lot for me (though it looks and sounds pretty cool).
Really the thing that matters most to me is that both cars were convertibles, because you can put the top down in nice weather and it's utterly beautiful. That and they had 10+ disc CD changers. Without either of those features, the cars would have sucked, to me. The fact that I drive a sports car now isn't that different from before, and so I don't expect I will keep going that route.
I live on a lake. A rather large one, and there are thousands of boats registered in my county. There are people who keep their boat in their own private dock, propped up on a lift for 362 days a year.
I know people who live 20 minutes from the lake, and are out on the water every weekend.
I bet this blows your mind.