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Expensive purses, etc.

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  • JansonJanson Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Are they justifiably expensive or are they just a scam? My cousin is going to buy a $1000 purse that his girlfriend wants, you see. This is what has led me to these thoughts.

    I hope your cousin's girlfriend is buying him a $1000 gift that he wants.

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  • HomelessHomeless Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Damn it I've answered this 800 times before

    I like both now, and I'll most likely like both afterwards

    Oh shit

    sorry I missed it before.

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  • WhippyWhippy Moderator, Admin Emeritus Admin Emeritus
    edited February 2007
    if i had lots of money i would buy people whatever they wanted

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  • SilmarilSilmaril Mr Ha Ha Hapless. Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Bets on she's going to do nothing of the sort, Janson.

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  • TM2 RampageTM2 Rampage Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Janson wrote: »
    Are they justifiably expensive or are they just a scam? My cousin is going to buy a $1000 purse that his girlfriend wants, you see. This is what has led me to these thoughts.

    I hope your cousin's girlfriend is buying him a $1000 gift that he wants.
    I think maybe not. Maybe she'll sorta repay him with sex and companionship, or something.

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  • SilmarilSilmaril Mr Ha Ha Hapless. Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Janson wrote: »
    Are they justifiably expensive or are they just a scam? My cousin is going to buy a $1000 purse that his girlfriend wants, you see. This is what has led me to these thoughts.

    I hope your cousin's girlfriend is buying him a $1000 gift that he wants.
    I think maybe not. Maybe she'll sorta repay him with sex and companionship, or something.


    You see, this is utter bullshit

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  • JansonJanson Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    So would I, but I'm betting that the cousin in question probably doesn't have a wad of spare cash lying around and that he's saving up to buy her that purse.

    EDIT: In response to Whippy

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  • TM2 RampageTM2 Rampage Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I believe that there are relationships where people just get each other things without expecting anything back in return or anything except continued love and companionship... I'm not sure if their relationship is as uber-meaningful like that. I'd like to provide more of my thoughts on it, but I'm not sure if I'd feel right doing so, even if the two are remaining anonymous... hrm.

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  • JansonJanson Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I guess it was the way you said 'his girlfriend wants', almost as if she was demanding it (although on reflection I'm probably reading way too much into it).

    Love and companionship is fine, and I suppose if there is a marked difference in salary or if the couple has kids and one parents stays at home, then one will give gifts of greater monetary value to the other.

    I know money isn't everything, but you don't want to start a precedent by giving gifts which a girlfriend (or boyfriend! - it can happen the other way around but is rare) then grows to expect.

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  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Janson wrote: »
    Are they justifiably expensive or are they just a scam? My cousin is going to buy a $1000 purse that his girlfriend wants, you see. This is what has led me to these thoughts.

    I hope your cousin's girlfriend is buying him a $1000 gift that he wants.

    Hahahaha it doesn't work that way ever.

    One might say that it's because men still make more money than women in most cases, even if they do the same job, but I don't know that this is actually true.

    EDIT: Seriously, though, that was cute of you to say.

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  • AirAir Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    maybe he gets to shit on her chest

    so with friends he might act all 'yea i know it was probably too much but its cos i really like her'

    but secretly he is actually getting his moneys worth

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  • JansonJanson Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    How much butt sex is a diamond engagement ring worth?

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  • DaySleeperDaySleeper regular
    edited February 2007
    I believe that there are relationships where people just get each other things without expecting anything back in return or anything except continued love and companionship... I'm not sure if their relationship is as uber-meaningful like that. I'd like to provide more of my thoughts on it, but I'm not sure if I'd feel right doing so, even if the two are remaining anonymous... hrm.

    Yes, there are. I'm in one.

    Addendum: We have a joint bank account though so it's not as if it matters who buys what.

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  • AirAir Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Janson wrote: »
    How much butt sex is a diamond engagement ring worth?

    well thats why marriage is supposed to be a lifetime commitment

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  • SpongeCakeSpongeCake Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    POSTING IN THE THREAD AT THE TOP OF THE FORUM

    Man passive smoking sucks, I've been jammed in this tiny room with (what I hope is) tobacco smoke being pumped in through the AC system for five hours now.
    It's like smoking without the ability to look cool in front of strangers.

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  • AirAir Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    so quit whining and light up a cigarette

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  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Air wrote: »
    Janson wrote: »
    How much butt sex is a diamond engagement ring worth?

    well thats why marriage is supposed to be a lifetime commitment

    It's like you're pretending that the diamond ring is the last gift you have to buy her.

    Oh no.

    She wants a bigger house.

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  • SilmarilSilmaril Mr Ha Ha Hapless. Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Defender wrote: »
    Air wrote: »
    Janson wrote: »
    How much butt sex is a diamond engagement ring worth?

    well thats why marriage is supposed to be a lifetime commitment

    It's like you're pretending that the diamond ring is the last gift you have to buy her.

    Oh no.

    She wants a bigger house.

    And a new Kitchen.

    And dinner in a nice restaurant every week.

    And gifts.



    And full access to your credit card

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  • SpongeCakeSpongeCake Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Air wrote: »
    so quit whining and light up a cigarette
    Now that you mention it I am getting an inexplicable desire to light one up.

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  • AirAir Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    there was some movie on tv today
    something about the taliban
    and at the end this like 14 year old girl is arrested but instead of being executed or whatever she is married to this real old guy, like 70 or 80

    and he takes her home and he has a few other wives and he padlocks the door of the house, and at night locks them in their rooms
    so they are never allowed the house or do anything

    that is how marriage should be

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  • Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Anything you put tampons in should not cost fucking thousands of sheckles, goddamnit.



    Fucking designer fashion... biggest scam in the world. what the fuck do I need 200$ jeans for when they aren't as comfortable/don't last as long as a pair of Arizona or Levi?

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  • JansonJanson Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I at least try to split things roughly 50/50

    When I was unemployed and my ex was working, I couldn't afford full rent so I did most of the cooking, baked things, and generally kept the place tidy

    Then when I do have a job I give gifts

    And if one person pays for a date, the other pays for it the next time

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  • JansonJanson Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    As for the purses...

    To some extent you do get a better quality with price. My cheap leather bag was very easily scuffed and the handle broke through wear and tear. I actually liked it better than the more expensive one I'm currently using (which has no shoulder strap) but the more expensive one is a little hardier and is made of better quality leather.

    Still by 'more expensive' I mean it was a non-designer £80 as opposed to the cheaper £30 one.

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  • StratoStrato Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    The reason high fashion stuff is expensive isn't because it's easy to copy. You can copy anything cheaply, and illegally. You're paying for the work and creativity of the designers, as well as the "exclusivity" (an amount of bullshit in itself) of being able to own it.

    So yeah, buying a $1000 bag is probably pretty dumb, especially as a gift (cause expensive gifts are never really appreciated enough by the receiver), but that doesn't mean all designer goods are bad.

    Granted, if you don't want to blow the money, you can usually find something nice in your price range. Not everyone can afford it, or it wouldn't be so chic.

    If you want to learn more about it, watch The Devil Wears Prada!

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  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Silmaril wrote: »
    Defender wrote: »
    Air wrote: »
    Janson wrote: »
    How much butt sex is a diamond engagement ring worth?

    well thats why marriage is supposed to be a lifetime commitment

    It's like you're pretending that the diamond ring is the last gift you have to buy her.

    Oh no.

    She wants a bigger house.

    And a new Kitchen.

    And dinner in a nice restaurant every week.

    And gifts.



    And full access to your credit card

    I have always looked forward to being married and having children, but the more I think about it, man, I do not really want to get married. It just opens up so many legal vulnerabilities. I like that it's a formal commitment and the extra difficulty of getting a divorce makes it easier to pull through the hard times that all relationships have (as far as I know, they all do), and I have absolutely no problem with promising away my wang usage to one person, provided, you know, it's the right person...

    Maybe I just have not found the right person. Shit, man, I don't even know where to set the standard. Should I be dying to talk to this person every day, even after years of knowing her? Is that too high a standard? Should she be my best friend? That's odd to imagine, my closest friends have always been male. Should she share all (or many) of my interests? Haha yeah, lots of chicks like programming and video games and martial arts, right? And god knows that debating things and pondering ethical issues is usually right after g-spot orgasm in terms of things that women like. So what's realistic? Settling for less than I should and getting divorced later seems like an easy option, but I don't want that.

    What gets me here is that there's absolutely no guide to this and there's a fucking huge divorce rate.

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  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Janson wrote: »
    I at least try to split things roughly 50/50

    When I was unemployed and my ex was working, I couldn't afford full rent so I did most of the cooking, baked things, and generally kept the place tidy

    Then when I do have a job I give gifts

    And if one person pays for a date, the other pays for it the next time

    OK, so do you have a sister in America? Maybe some kind of identical cousin? Like kind of a Patty Duke thing? Preferably she's about 24-30.

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  • SheriSheri Resident Fluffer My Living RoomRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    ITT we stereotype women lawls

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  • JansonJanson Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Defender - so set up a good pre-nup agreement.

    And not every woman is out to fleece a man.

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  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    ITT what? WE don't stereotype women. These purses that cost $1000 are very real...this is a common enough behavior that the economy supports it.

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Really you just have to bet against society, dude.

    40% of people who get married get divorces.

    Are you more in love than they were when they got married? Will you continue to be that much in love some 50 to 60 years down the road, when you can finally die and be free of that damned commitment?

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  • SilmarilSilmaril Mr Ha Ha Hapless. Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Defender wrote: »
    Silmaril wrote: »
    Defender wrote: »
    Air wrote: »
    Janson wrote: »
    How much butt sex is a diamond engagement ring worth?

    well thats why marriage is supposed to be a lifetime commitment

    It's like you're pretending that the diamond ring is the last gift you have to buy her.

    Oh no.

    She wants a bigger house.

    And a new Kitchen.

    And dinner in a nice restaurant every week.

    And gifts.



    And full access to your credit card

    I have always looked forward to being married and having children, but the more I think about it, man, I do not really want to get married. It just opens up so many legal vulnerabilities. I like that it's a formal commitment and the extra difficulty of getting a divorce makes it easier to pull through the hard times that all relationships have (as far as I know, they all do), and I have absolutely no problem with promising away my wang usage to one person, provided, you know, it's the right person...

    Maybe I just have not found the right person. Shit, man, I don't even know where to set the standard. Should I be dying to talk to this person every day, even after years of knowing her? Is that too high a standard? Should she be my best friend? That's odd to imagine, my closest friends have always been male. Should she share all (or many) of my interests? Haha yeah, lots of chicks like programming and video games and martial arts, right? And god knows that debating things and pondering ethical issues is usually right after g-spot orgasm in terms of things that women like. So what's realistic? Settling for less than I should and getting divorced later seems like an easy option, but I don't want that.

    What gets me here is that there's absolutely no guide to this and there's a fucking huge divorce rate.

    Pre nup!


    My personal thoughts are that marriage shouldn't be a for the rest of your life type thing, but maybe like 25 years or something. In the origins of marriage, the rest of your life probably wasn't going to be that much longer than 20 years, but now everyone is living longer, the chances of things going wrong are that much higher.


    As for standards, I don't think you should over analyse it too much. I think if the idea of a substantial amount of the rest of your life doesn't fill you with doubt after you've been with them a few years already, then its probably not going to be a bad choice.

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  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Janson wrote: »
    Defender - so set up a good pre-nup agreement.

    And not every woman is out to fleece a man.

    There seems to be a miscommunication. I'm not saying that they're all harpies, out to steal my income. I'm saying that if shit doesn't go well, I don't feel the need to continue to pay you my salary. You can get a job, you can support yourself, you have no right to my money just because we used to be married. Yes I'll pay a fair sum to help you pay for our kids, but alimony is horseshit now that women are capable of contributing to the economy. And yeah, a good pre-nup would help. I wouldn't think of getting married without one. Also, even a woman who isn't "out to fleece" may change her mind through bitterness or through the suggestions of her lawyer during the divorce.

    But I want to marry once and stay that way, and that's my real concern. How do I know what to look for? How do I know what elements are needed to make it last a lifetime? I see no institution that tells me this stuff. Normally, I'd ask my parents, that seems a logical place, except oops they're divorced.

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  • SheriSheri Resident Fluffer My Living RoomRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Defender wrote: »
    ITT what? WE don't stereotype women. These purses that cost $1000 are very real...this is a common enough behavior that the economy supports it.

    Cuz every post in this thread is talking specifically about $1000 purses.

    Besides, go out and ask random women if they own $1000 purses. Yeah, there's enough demand that people keep making them, but with prices like that, how many do you have to sell to make a profit? Not a lot.

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  • SheriSheri Resident Fluffer My Living RoomRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I mean, companies make manthongs. That means there's enough demand for them to keep making manthongs. Do I assume that every man wears a manthong?

    Defender, do you wear a manthong?

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  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Sheri wrote: »
    Defender wrote: »
    ITT what? WE don't stereotype women. These purses that cost $1000 are very real...this is a common enough behavior that the economy supports it.

    Cuz every post in this thread is talking specifically about $1000 purses.

    Besides, go out and ask random women if they own $1000 purses. Yeah, there's enough demand that people keep making them, but with prices like that, how many do you have to sell to make a profit? Not a lot.

    Of course most women don't own the $1000 ones. They usually do own purses that I consider overpriced and redundant, from a functional perspective. And yeah, I get that you need a black one to go with a black dress, and maybe a smaller one for going to parties and a bigger one for daily use and all that. Just like shoes. But I see women with a LOT of purses, and it seems needless. Perhaps this is my male bias. But my point is that although most women can't afford the $1000 ones, they do have $200 and $300 purses.

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  • AirAir Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    ITT sheri is mad because she cant afford a $1000 purse

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  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Sheri wrote: »
    I mean, companies make manthongs. That means there's enough demand for them to keep making manthongs. Do I assume that every man wears a manthong?

    Defender, do you wear a manthong?

    :winky:

    Oh man, I like that the post timer now actually tells me how many seconds are left.

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  • SilmarilSilmaril Mr Ha Ha Hapless. Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Defender wrote: »
    But I want to marry once and stay that way, and that's my real concern. How do I know what to look for? How do I know what elements are needed to make it last a lifetime? I see no institution that tells me this stuff. Normally, I'd ask my parents, that seems a logical place, except oops they're divorced.




    The thing you'll come to realise is that no-one knows. Everyone is playing blind here, and once you realise that everyone else is just shuffling along without a clue what they're doing, it gets a whole lot easier.

    There are no rules to this.

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  • SheriSheri Resident Fluffer My Living RoomRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Defender wrote: »
    Sheri wrote: »
    Defender wrote: »
    ITT what? WE don't stereotype women. These purses that cost $1000 are very real...this is a common enough behavior that the economy supports it.

    Cuz every post in this thread is talking specifically about $1000 purses.

    Besides, go out and ask random women if they own $1000 purses. Yeah, there's enough demand that people keep making them, but with prices like that, how many do you have to sell to make a profit? Not a lot.

    Of course most women don't own the $1000 ones. They usually do own purses that I consider overpriced and redundant, from a functional perspective. And yeah, I get that you need a black one to go with a black dress, and maybe a smaller one for going to parties and a bigger one for daily use and all that. Just like shoes. But I see women with a LOT of purses, and it seems needless. Perhaps this is my male bias. But my point is that although most women can't afford the $1000 ones, they do have $200 and $300 purses.

    I own, like, two purses (and one yarn bag, it's not a purse cuz all it ever fucking carries is yarn) and they were both less than $15.

    I'm just saying. Stereotypes. I wasn't even really talking about the discussion of the purses themselves. Whatever, the point is, I have a story.

    I saw a girl the other day in the university cafeteria with a Coach bag. It had a big ol' metal label on it, and it was etched to say 'This is a real Coach bag. It was made with 100% pure mutilated baby cow leather. . .' or something like that. The point is, how shallow are you if you need to advertise to a bunch of college kids in the middle of western fucking PA about how you have a goddamn Coach bag?

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  • SilmarilSilmaril Mr Ha Ha Hapless. Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    There would be no stereotypes if there was no truth to them (howver small and tenuous the "truth")

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