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    AirAir Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    marry an old school immigrant who grew up with the idea of female subservience

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    SheriSheri Resident Fluffer My Living RoomRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Silmaril wrote: »
    There would be no stereotypes if there was no truth to them (howver small and tenuous the "truth")

    I don't think you understand how a stereotype works. :P

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Silmaril wrote: »
    There would be no stereotypes if there was no truth to them (howver small and tenuous the "truth")

    Martians are little green men?

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    SheriSheri Resident Fluffer My Living RoomRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I sure hope Defender isn't typing out a long argument, cuz I totally gotta go.

    And I'm taking my $1000 Prada bag with me.

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    SpongeCakeSpongeCake Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I attended some lecture on Stereotyping delivered by an Australian guy and he agreed with Silm.

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    DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Sheri wrote: »
    I sure hope Defender isn't typing out a long argument, cuz I totally gotta go.

    And I'm taking my $1000 Prada bag with me.

    I wasn't. Have fun times!

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    lostwordslostwords Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I hate designer labels and junk, then I look in my closet and see a bunch of gators and polo dudes on my shirts, and feel like an adult, because being an adult means spending money on stuff you don't really need to let everyone else know that you can afford to waste money and junk. Yay America

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    SpongeCake wrote: »
    I attended some lecture on Stereotyping delivered by an Australian guy and he agreed with Silm.

    Did he wrestle crocodiles demand asylum from his penal colony? Because I think that would have been only fair in those circumstances.

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    SpongeCakeSpongeCake Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Capitalism is almost the best thing ever, beaten only by materialism.

    Stuff rocks.

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    SpongeCakeSpongeCake Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Rolo wrote: »
    Did he wrestle crocodiles demand asylum from his penal colony? Because I think that would have been only fair in those circumstances.
    He said nigger a lot which was pretty uncomfortable.

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    WrenWren ninja_bird Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I like stuff.

    and cats

    mostly cats

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    Dr_KeenbeanDr_Keenbean Dumb as a butt Planet Express ShipRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Widepath wrote: »
    1) peach guy made be drop my popcorn.
    2) I drink my water form a nalgene bottle.
    3) my wallet says bad mother fucker on it.

    Oh yea...
    4) my roommate makes purses out of carpet remnants and sells them.

    I saw a purse made of Kool Aid packets once in some storefront.

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    StratoStrato Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Sheri wrote: »
    I saw a girl the other day in the university cafeteria with a Coach bag. It had a big ol' metal label on it, and it was etched to say 'This is a real Coach bag. It was made with 100% pure mutilated baby cow leather. . .' or something like that. The point is, how shallow are you if you need to advertise to a bunch of college kids in the middle of western fucking PA about how you have a goddamn Coach bag?

    There's such a thing as good and bad taste. This would be the latter.

    I think having the brand on the product can be a tasteful mark, but when the brandname is more emphasized than the actual piece itself, it becomes tacky. It's no longer "I have a cool looking bag made by Coach", it's "I have a Coach product and you don't."

    That said, I'm sure there's a big market for tacky, bad, expensive products, hence their existence.

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    lostwordslostwords Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    So do Australians treat Aborigines like the US treats Native Americans here?

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    lostwords wrote: »
    I hate designer labels and junk, then I look in my closet and see a bunch of gators and polo dudes on my shirts, and feel like an adult, because being an adult means spending money on stuff you don't really need to let everyone else know that you can afford to waste money and junk. Yay America

    I want my track pants back with pictures of knock-off superheros on them.

    Or just patterns of cowboys on them. If ever I got bored I could just look at my pants and BAM! instant fun.

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    DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    lostwords wrote: »
    I hate designer labels and junk, then I look in my closet and see a bunch of gators and polo dudes on my shirts, and feel like an adult, because being an adult means spending money on stuff you don't really need to let everyone else know that you can afford to waste money and junk. Yay America

    Funny, I never got the impression that wasting money on crap is what makes you an adult. And here I am, an adult, and I don't waste money on crap. So I guess I'm from a different America? Even though I live in a very rich area.

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    tsplittertsplitter Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    My cousin is going to buy a $1000 purse that his girlfriend wants

    brain...exploding

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    WrenWren ninja_bird Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I get polo shirts and stuff for a couple bucks, used.

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    DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    tsplitter wrote: »
    My cousin is going to buy a $1000 purse that his girlfriend wants

    brain...exploding

    See, then he can give the purse to her as a gift.

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    lostwordslostwords Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Defender wrote: »
    lostwords wrote: »
    I hate designer labels and junk, then I look in my closet and see a bunch of gators and polo dudes on my shirts, and feel like an adult, because being an adult means spending money on stuff you don't really need to let everyone else know that you can afford to waste money and junk. Yay America

    Funny, I never got the impression that wasting money on crap is what makes you an adult. And here I am, an adult, and I don't waste money on crap. So I guess I'm from a different America? Even though I live in a very rich area.

    Thats why you are an exception and different and unique like a snowflake. Your neighbors are probably all about blowing money on stupid shit.

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    StratoStrato Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Defender wrote: »
    lostwords wrote: »
    I hate designer labels and junk, then I look in my closet and see a bunch of gators and polo dudes on my shirts, and feel like an adult, because being an adult means spending money on stuff you don't really need to let everyone else know that you can afford to waste money and junk. Yay America

    Funny, I never got the impression that wasting money on crap is what makes you an adult. And here I am, an adult, and I don't waste money on crap. So I guess I'm from a different America? Even though I live in a very rich area.

    Personally, I think saving money where possible is awesome. Being wasteful is more immature.

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    AirAir Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    lostwords wrote: »
    So do Australians treat Aborigines like the US treats Native Americans here?

    if you mean, like shit
    then yea its about the same

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    Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    lostwords wrote: »
    So do Australians treat Aborigines like the US treats Native Americans here?

    I don't think the Australians give them free houses and casinos.

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    lostwords wrote: »
    So do Australians treat Aborigines like the US treats Native Americans here?

    I don't think the Australians give them free houses and casinos.

    Did they give them genocide?

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    SpongeCakeSpongeCake Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Or smallpox

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    StratoStrato Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Does anyone have good watch recommendations? (I guess this probably belongs in a Manifest chick-tract thread...)

    I was thinking of getting this one by D&G (a thread-related designer brand), but it's $261 and doesn't seem worth it. I thought this one by Hamilton was pretty awesome, until I saw the price ($633). What the hell?

    Can't I get a nice watch for <$100?

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    lostwordslostwords Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Calculator watch

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Get a watch that is in a circle, like the way a clock would look.

    That is the optimal shape for time telling.

    Unless you are batman, and then you get a watch shaped like a bat.

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    Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Dude, Timex. :| Takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'.

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    DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Strato wrote: »
    Defender wrote: »
    lostwords wrote: »
    I hate designer labels and junk, then I look in my closet and see a bunch of gators and polo dudes on my shirts, and feel like an adult, because being an adult means spending money on stuff you don't really need to let everyone else know that you can afford to waste money and junk. Yay America

    Funny, I never got the impression that wasting money on crap is what makes you an adult. And here I am, an adult, and I don't waste money on crap. So I guess I'm from a different America? Even though I live in a very rich area.

    Personally, I think saving money where possible is awesome. Being wasteful is more immature.

    Exactly, which is why NOT buying stupid, wasteful shit looks far more adult to me than needing to show off how much cash you can waste.

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    SpongeCakeSpongeCake Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Train a dog to bark the time through an elborately designed experiment.

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    CalliusCallius Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Oh man, I bought pants the other day.

    They're cool cargo pants.

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    If you live in a sub-urb, and you own a boat, which you keep covered up by a tarp inside your garage or driveway, you are perhaps the biggest tard ever.

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    JansonJanson Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Defender wrote: »
    Janson wrote: »
    Defender - so set up a good pre-nup agreement.

    And not every woman is out to fleece a man.

    There seems to be a miscommunication. I'm not saying that they're all harpies, out to steal my income. I'm saying that if shit doesn't go well, I don't feel the need to continue to pay you my salary. You can get a job, you can support yourself, you have no right to my money just because we used to be married. Yes I'll pay a fair sum to help you pay for our kids, but alimony is horseshit now that women are capable of contributing to the economy. And yeah, a good pre-nup would help. I wouldn't think of getting married without one. Also, even a woman who isn't "out to fleece" may change her mind through bitterness or through the suggestions of her lawyer during the divorce.

    But I want to marry once and stay that way, and that's my real concern. How do I know what to look for? How do I know what elements are needed to make it last a lifetime? I see no institution that tells me this stuff. Normally, I'd ask my parents, that seems a logical place, except oops they're divorced.

    Oh, yeah, alimony is complete bull. Sil, do we have alimony here?

    The only time I can see alimony is justified is when a man earns a disproportionately high amount, and the woman has stayed at home to raise the kids and so is out of the job market. It is very, very hard for a woman to get a job if she's been 15 years unemployed.

    There was the case of the footballer who was told to pay his wife a fairly obscene amount, but then several facts transpired:

    1. He hadn't allowed her to work, so she'd stayed at home

    2. She'd done 100% of the child-rearing

    3. He'd had at least two affairs

    4. He'd been really miserly, not allowing her to decorate the house in ten years although he'd had millions coming in, etc.

    And she didn't ask for more than 50%, I think the amount she claimed was based on what she could've been earning.

    But for your average couple, especially couples that are childless/where the woman has remained in work, alimony should be got rid of.

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    DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Rolo wrote: »
    If you live in a sub-urb, and you own a boat, which you keep covered up by a tarp inside your garage or driveway, you are perhaps the biggest tard ever.

    Second biggest tard. The biggest tard would be the person who jams a hyphen into "suburb."

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    lostwordslostwords Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Rolo wrote: »
    If you live in a sub-urb, and you own a boat, which you keep covered up by a tarp inside your garage or driveway, you are perhaps the biggest tard ever.


    Thats what they said about Noah... dot dot dot

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Defender wrote: »
    Rolo wrote: »
    If you live in a sub-urb, and you own a boat, which you keep covered up by a tarp inside your garage or driveway, you are perhaps the biggest tard ever.

    Second biggest tard. The biggest tard would be the person who jams a hyphen into "suburb."

    Nooooooooooo... ESL has come back to haunt me once more.

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    DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Yeah I do understand alimony in the case that the woman did all the work of raising children. In the event of "fault" divorces, like, one of the people had an affair, fucking nail that person to the cross, I don't care. But going back to no-fault, I still don't see how a percentage is fair. If a woman could make, say, $50,000 a year, and she's divorcing someone who makes $1,000,000 a year, why should he have to pay her $500,000 in alimony? Her child-rearing service doesn't become ten times as valuable just because he made a lot of money while she raised the kids.

    Also I think alimony should wean off pretty quickly; she should be motivated to get a job, and economic means are the best way to do it. Yeah, getting a good job after 15 years of not working can be a bitch, but she should be working on building a career or whatever IMMEDIATELY, not just coasting along as a leech indefinitely.

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    Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Gaiz... hey gaiz... Some women look hot bald. Like Sinead (sp? fucking Gaelic names...) O'Connor.

    Sorry, I just was looking at Rolo's av and thinking about bald ladies. Britney Spears looks terrible bald... that is all.

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    SilmarilSilmaril Mr Ha Ha Hapless. Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Janson wrote: »
    Defender wrote: »
    Janson wrote: »
    Defender - so set up a good pre-nup agreement.

    And not every woman is out to fleece a man.

    There seems to be a miscommunication. I'm not saying that they're all harpies, out to steal my income. I'm saying that if shit doesn't go well, I don't feel the need to continue to pay you my salary. You can get a job, you can support yourself, you have no right to my money just because we used to be married. Yes I'll pay a fair sum to help you pay for our kids, but alimony is horseshit now that women are capable of contributing to the economy. And yeah, a good pre-nup would help. I wouldn't think of getting married without one. Also, even a woman who isn't "out to fleece" may change her mind through bitterness or through the suggestions of her lawyer during the divorce.

    But I want to marry once and stay that way, and that's my real concern. How do I know what to look for? How do I know what elements are needed to make it last a lifetime? I see no institution that tells me this stuff. Normally, I'd ask my parents, that seems a logical place, except oops they're divorced.

    Oh, yeah, alimony is complete bull. Sil, do we have alimony here?

    The only time I can see alimony is justified is when a man earns a disproportionately high amount, and the woman has stayed at home to raise the kids and so is out of the job market. It is very, very hard for a woman to get a job if she's been 15 years unemployed.

    There was the case of the footballer who was told to pay his wife a fairly obscene amount, but then several facts transpired:

    1. He hadn't allowed her to work, so she'd stayed at home

    2. She'd done 100% of the child-rearing

    3. He'd had at least two affairs

    4. He'd been really miserly, not allowing her to decorate the house in ten years although he'd had millions coming in, etc.

    And she didn't ask for more than 50%, I think the amount she claimed was based on what she could've been earning.

    But for your average couple, especially couples that are childless/where the woman has remained in work, alimony should be got rid of.


    I think we have something similar. I know that sexual equality has yet to really reach the courts in divorce and child custody cases. The women hold all the power in those.

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