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    VivixenneVivixenne Remember your training, and we'll get through this just fine. Registered User regular
    I think the essence behind it (being confident, approachable etc) is sound.

    This is not exclusive to the PUA bullshit. This is just being a nice person who knows he is a person worth caring about.
    The words and terms and general attitude is kinda silly.

    It's SO much worse than words/terms/attitude. I've read some of that stuff and I find it absolutely disgusting.

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    VivixenneVivixenne Remember your training, and we'll get through this just fine. Registered User regular
    and okay maybe "dumb girls" is a bit harsh

    "girls with ISSUES" (emphasis ++) is perhaps more accurate

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    Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    It's also a form of bullying. You are practically telling people how worthless they are.

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    VivixenneVivixenne Remember your training, and we'll get through this just fine. Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Yeah PUA doesn't sell confidence as self-confidence, not really. It sells confidence as you putting down other people and making them feel like shit (GIRLS) to make yourSELF seem more impressive.

    :slowclap:

    I just find the whole exercise to be completely and utterly offensive, reprehensible, and RUDE.

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    #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    Yeah I think the point of the thing is that part of the reason PUA techniques work is because they're performed with a shitload of confidence.

    But the thing is, that confidence is a big part of what makes it so effective. If you walk up to somebody and start talking to them without mumbling or staring at your feet and with a smile and good eye contact, it's human nature to want to engage with that person.

    From there you can choose to employ the bullshit emotional manipulation of a PUA or you can have an honest, open conversation. You'd find that both would solicit a positive response.

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    PixelMonkeyPixelMonkey Registered User regular
    theSquid wrote: »
    I think the essence behind it (being confident, approachable etc) is sound. The words and terms and general attitude is kinda silly.

    yeah but then there's the emotional manipulation / blackmail that comes with it, and thats extremely fucked up.

    Honestly some of the shit that PUA's will do to get laid stop just short of outright date rape.

    Really I thought it was a guide to be confident with girls.

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    PixelMonkeyPixelMonkey Registered User regular
    Anzekay wrote: »
    You just wanted to post a F/SN image didn't you?

    It was the perfect set up for that pic.

    I mean it was right there.

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    VivixenneVivixenne Remember your training, and we'll get through this just fine. Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    theSquid wrote: »
    I think the essence behind it (being confident, approachable etc) is sound. The words and terms and general attitude is kinda silly.

    yeah but then there's the emotional manipulation / blackmail that comes with it, and thats extremely fucked up.

    Honestly some of the shit that PUA's will do to get laid stop just short of outright date rape.

    Really I thought it was a guide to be confident with girls.

    Here is the best guide to being confident with girls:
    1. treat them like people first, girls second - i.e., just have a conversation with them like they are normal people
    2. remember that you're a good and interesting dude in your own right who is able to have an interesting conversation with people (not just girls)

    The specific "how-to" of it is down to the individual to figure out. Once someone starts spouting a "one size fits all" way of "picking up girls," it's bullshit because all girls are individuals with their own brains/personality/preferences and, perhaps more importantly in your case, all BOYS are individuals with their own brains/personality/preferences.

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    Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    If you act like an arsehole, you will also act like you have self confidence.

    PUA teaches you to act like a arsehole.

    It's the McDonalds of dating. Sure you get fed, but it's really really shitty.

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    FishmanFishman Put your goddamned hand in the goddamned Box of Pain. Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    There are some good points and behaviours outlined in the PUA literature, but nothing that isn't covered elsewhere in other more reputable sources. You'd get as much or milage out of being a decent human being who can communicate with other by reading How to Win Friends and Influence People, which isn't just about talking to girls, but rather also addresses just relating to people in general.

    Once you're in a relationship, there's all sorts of books on how to treat your lady (or gent) special, ranging from entire boookshelves to the sealed section of Cosmo.

    Those things are important, and are (sometimes) addressed in PUA habits, but once you take those particular things away from the PUA community, all that's really left is meaningless and shallow scoreboarding and numbers bragging.

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    That's unbelievably cool. Your new name is cool guy. Let's have sex.
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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Fishman wrote: »
    There are some good points and behaviours outlined in the PUA literature, but nothing that isn't covered elsewhere in other more reputable sources. You'd get as much or milage out of being a decent human being who can communicate with other by reading How to Win Friends and Influence People, which isn't just about talking to girls, but rather also addresses just relating to people in general.

    Once you're in a relationship, there's all sorts of books on how to treat your lady (or gent) special, ranging from entire boookshelves to the sealed section of Cosmo.

    Those things are important, and are (sometimes) addressed in PUA habits, but once you take those particular things away from the PUA community, all that's really left is meaningless and shallow scoreboarding and numbers bragging.

    This is all good, except for the part about Cosmo...

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    FishmanFishman Put your goddamned hand in the goddamned Box of Pain. Registered User regular
    It says a lot that I had to stare at that picture for 20 seconds or so to work out it was a 'shop job.

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    That's unbelievably cool. Your new name is cool guy. Let's have sex.
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    FishmanFishman Put your goddamned hand in the goddamned Box of Pain. Registered User regular
    Also, does Cosmo really have 212 pages?

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    That's unbelievably cool. Your new name is cool guy. Let's have sex.
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    #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    So um

    My sister-in-law's horse died overnight

    and they just found out that it had Hendra

    we're all kind of freaking out right now

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    Tweaked_Bat_Tweaked_Bat_ Registered User regular
    Vivixenne wrote: »
    I think the essence behind it (being confident, approachable etc) is sound.

    This is not exclusive to the PUA bullshit. This is just being a nice person who knows he is a person worth caring about.

    Yes you're right.
    Vivixenne wrote: »
    The words and terms and general attitude is kinda silly.

    It's SO much worse than words/terms/attitude. I've read some of that stuff and I find it absolutely disgusting.

    Well, I think the word "attitude" sums it up pretty concisely. The PUA attitude is bad.

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    #pipe wrote: »
    So um

    My sister-in-law's horse died overnight

    and they just found out that it had Hendra

    we're all kind of freaking out right now

    You gonna get a visit from some government dudes.

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    Tweaked_Bat_Tweaked_Bat_ Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    #pipe wrote: »
    So um

    My sister-in-law's horse died overnight

    and they just found out that it had Hendra

    we're all kind of freaking out right now

    Woah, that's pretty massive news. Hope everything is OK.

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    stimtokolosstimtokolos Registered User regular
    Uhmmm. Fuck man. That isn't good.
    I hope everyone is alright

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    It's not that big a deal, guys. It's just that people are going to want to know where the horse got it from, and whether it's passed it on to other horses.

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    VivixenneVivixenne Remember your training, and we'll get through this just fine. Registered User regular
    Fishman wrote: »
    How to Win Friends and Influence People

    this is an amazing book by Dale Carnegie that I strongly encourage everybody ever to read at least once in their adult lives

    it's one of two books that everyone in my family has read and we draw on shit from it ALL the damn time

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    marty_0001marty_0001 I am a file and you put documents in meRegistered User regular
    Pipe I am worried

    Do you feel a sudden fondness for apples and sugar cubes

    Have you taken to stamping your feet in response to questions

    (Seriously that sucks and I hope it doesn't end up being a massive hassle for your family)

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    #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    It's not that big a deal, guys. It's just that people are going to want to know where the horse got it from, and whether it's passed it on to other horses.

    or people

    you know it's got a 60% death rate in people

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Did you, or anyone you know, make out with the horse?

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    #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    Like, my sister-in-law found her horse dead this morning

    she thought it might be a tick, so she went hunting around the body

    she had a lot of contact

    and if she caught hendra, there's a sixty percent chance that she'll die from it.

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Doesn't there have to be contact with fluids for transmission?

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Your sister in law will be fine, man.

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    #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    All seven humans infected with HeV to date had high levels of exposure to body fluids of infected horses, such as during unprotected autopsy or by direct contact with respiratory secretions or aerosols.

    check

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    #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    I know It's a really low chance

    but we're just worried. It's a shock. None of us will really be comfortable until the test results come back.

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    stimtokolosstimtokolos Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    So my brother is with my grandmother at rehab at the moment and she knows who Ben is (my brother) and who I am.
    But she doesn't know that my brother is Ben, she just thinks he knows him. So he is there talking to her about himself in the third person.
    Tragic but humourous.
    Apparently she likes Ben though, so at least she likes her grandchildren.

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    Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    Or one of them.

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    stimtokolosstimtokolos Registered User regular
    Yeah I bet she hates that Tim.
    To be fair to her, her vision is also fucked so it would be making it super hard to know what the hell is going on. Hardcore macular degeneration.

    Really hoping I get to be like my paternal grandfather in old age. 90 years old, still driving, still doing gardening, still being a crazy bigot.

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    Mr FuzzbuttMr Fuzzbutt Registered User regular
    Condolences Tim, hopefully she makes a good recovery.

    Both my grandfathers have had strokes, so if it's a genetic thing I could be in trouble a few years down the track.

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    stimtokolosstimtokolos Registered User regular
    Thanks bro. I hope so, I think she probably will, at least she is still talking. But I mean she is starting to get old people crazy anyway.

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    #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    Turns out the vet was wrong and the horse didn't have Hendra

    So my brother and sister in law have sat in the emergency room for 6 hours for nothin

    A huge relief but god damn

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    WimbleWimble Registered User regular
    it's the kind of experience that reminds you that you are alive, I guess

    so maybe that's something

    or maybe what I said doesn't mean anything at all

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    PaperLuigi44PaperLuigi44 My amazement is at maximum capacity. Registered User regular
    #pipe wrote: »
    Turns out the vet was wrong and the horse didn't have Hendra

    So my brother and sister in law have sat in the emergency room for 6 hours for nothin

    A huge relief but god damn

    That's good to hear.

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    Mr FuzzbuttMr Fuzzbutt Registered User regular
    the vet was probably like, oh this horse is already dead, whatever i say won't change that

    it waaaas.... this disease that killed it, now give me seven thousand dollars

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    JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
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    WimbleWimble Registered User regular
    I just got such a satisfying haircut

    I look dope

    hooray

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