I have discovered the new way of being the best Lee Singa is to ward their blue, wait until the jungler tries to give it to their AP mid, jump to said ward smite and flash out.
The downside to this trick is not to do it more than twice, as the third time I ran into LeBlanc, Kennen, Sona and Gangplank in a bush
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I have discovered the new way of being the best Lee Singa is to ward their blue, wait until the jungler tries to give it to their AP mid, jump to said ward smite and flash out.
Why flash when you could just spend 75g on another ward?
Also, if you haven't tried it before, there's a fun way of counterjungling as Lee Sin. Basically, Wriggle's + 1 ward asap. One ward in baron/dragon pit and 1 ward outside their red. It's your own personal counterjungling shuttle service.
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Also let's not casually throw around the (historically loaded, semi-bigoted itself) word transgender, thanks. Trans people's far more inclusive and way better.
I am terrrrrrrrible at jungling. It probably doesn't help that I don't have any dedicated jungle champs or runes. Hell, I barely have any runes good for AD champs. I guess that's what happens when you get to 30 mainly by playing support.
I have discovered the new way of being the best Lee Singa is to ward their blue, wait until the jungler tries to give it to their AP mid, jump to said ward smite and flash out.
Why flash when you could just spend 75g on another ward?
Also, if you haven't tried it before, there's a fun way of counterjungling as Lee Sin. Basically, Wriggle's + 1 ward asap. One ward in baron/dragon pit and 1 ward outside their red. It's your own personal counterjungling shuttle service.
Jumping twice would be ideal but the chances are that LeBlanc would silence and murder me if I stuck around for the 2-3 seconds it takes to come off CD. I could walk up to their blue but I'd almost certainly be spotted by a Dragon/Baron ward.
Hmm I never mentioned LeBlanc, although replace her with Annie/Malz/Brand/Cassiopeia.
I am terrrrrrrrible at jungling. It probably doesn't help that I don't have any dedicated jungle champs or runes. Hell, I barely have any runes good for AD champs. I guess that's what happens when you get to 30 mainly by playing support.
My advice would be to get flat armor yellow runes, they are pretty much always ideal for jungle pages
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I have discovered the new way of being the best Lee Singa is to ward their blue, wait until the jungler tries to give it to their AP mid, jump to said ward smite and flash out.
Why flash when you could just spend 75g on another ward?
Also, if you haven't tried it before, there's a fun way of counterjungling as Lee Sin. Basically, Wriggle's + 1 ward asap. One ward in baron/dragon pit and 1 ward outside their red. It's your own personal counterjungling shuttle service.
Jumping twice would be ideal but the chances are that LeBlanc would silence and murder me if I stuck around for the 2-3 seconds it takes to come off CD. I could walk up to their blue but I'd almost certainly be spotted by a Dragon/Baron ward.
I am terrrrrrrrible at jungling. It probably doesn't help that I don't have any dedicated jungle champs or runes. Hell, I barely have any runes good for AD champs. I guess that's what happens when you get to 30 mainly by playing support.
My advice would be to get flat armor yellow runes, they are pretty much always ideal for jungle pages
Yeah, my list of "things to buy" consists of Shyvana or Udyr, flat armour yellows, flat AD reds, then scaling MR blues. I'd pick Warwick up if I'd seen him ever do well in the new jungle; it sucks that most of the good junglers and AD carries are expensive as hell.
I am terrrrrrrrible at jungling. It probably doesn't help that I don't have any dedicated jungle champs or runes. Hell, I barely have any runes good for AD champs. I guess that's what happens when you get to 30 mainly by playing support.
My advice would be to get flat armor yellow runes, they are pretty much always ideal for jungle pages
Yeah, my list of "things to buy" consists of Shyvana or Udyr, flat armour yellows, flat AD reds, then scaling MR blues. I'd pick Warwick up if I'd seen him ever do well in the new jungle; it sucks that most of the good junglers and AD carries are expensive as hell.
You can grab sivir on the cheap for ad, and I have seen jungle poppy do disgusting things if IP is a huge issue
Wait for the patch notes though!
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Udyr's probably the cheapest of the higher tier junglers, I think.
I'll have to look into Nasus' jungle-strengths. His ganks would be pretty good with Wither, but his only AoE is Spirit Fire, so he'd be slower than an AoE jungler. If you were good with the timing though, you could farm the crap out of your Q without worrying overmuch about enemy harassment.
For AD, as someone mentioned, Sivir is cheap, and REALLY GOOD right now. And people are only just figuring it out. She has so much burst for an AD, she just needs to keep an eye on her mana.
You should be pretty decent at mana-management given that you played so much support.
Yeah, my list of "things to buy" consists of Shyvana or Udyr, flat armour yellows, flat AD reds, then scaling MR blues. I'd pick Warwick up if I'd seen him ever do well in the new jungle; it sucks that most of the good junglers and AD carries are expensive as hell.
I think Shyvana is the better choice at the moment. She's fast, super tanky, and extremely disruptive in teamfights. I like Udyr... but he's kinda 'meh' in my opinion. I put in 10-15 games with him and I couldn't get the hang of him.
Gangplank is also a really good jungler with his disgusting move speed and 3150ip.
May have told this one earlier. As GP I grabbed wolves, blue. Then I walked to mid, critted their mid for 240 damage and walked back into the jungle, instantly winning the lane for our mid.
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It makes me sad that Sivir is becoming the FOTM. I enjoyed it when the only Sivir I'd see in a game was me. Now people are learning how to play against her and it is becoming much harder to get those level 2 kills.
Also an elo type question for folks. I know that there is a hidden normal elo, but does anyone know if it operates in tiers as well? What I mean is that it seems like I hit plateaus of opponents, where I'll be doing very well in games then all of my opponents and team mates seem to get better all at the same time. Then I have a week or two of mediocre games until I adapt a bit, start doing well and going on a win streak, then it happens again.
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Nothing like Tuesday morning for queue dodges in bot games.
Also let's not casually throw around the (historically loaded, semi-bigoted itself) word transgender, thanks. Trans people's far more inclusive and way better.
LGBT groups can be okay to downright terrible at inclusion of anyone, really; looking at them for true representation of any of the groups they've historically marginalized is really just bad form.
Well i wasn't looking to start anything about the proper identification of w/e term won't offend I was just browsing the LoL forums looking for patch notes.
I did a little skarner jungle last night, besides being a bit of a mana hog I was liking it. I need a 2nd jungler in addition to trundle. I should buy udyr since he's been a top jungler from the start.
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In happier conversation, I took Cassiopeia for a whirl in a bot game. She was a lot of fun, so how do I play her in general? I went qeweer and then maxed e first, and just build the usual ap carry stuff?
In an unsafe lane it can be good to max cass's Q (like if you don't want to run at Leblanc spamming E)
But yeah that works well
Spell vamp is super vital
If you don't have blue buff 24/7 consider a tear
You can build tanky as her base damage is high enough
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Yeah I really noticed the lack of spell vamp. Revolver for the vamp first I guess?
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In regards to the advocates of his former empire: “I was going to have them all executed… the Royal Advocate talked me out of it.” -Shadowthrone (Emperor Kellanved)
Nothing like Tuesday morning for queue dodges in bot games.
Also let's not casually throw around the (historically loaded, semi-bigoted itself) word transgender, thanks. Trans people's far more inclusive and way better.
LGBT groups can be okay to downright terrible at inclusion of anyone, really; looking at them for true representation of any of the groups they've historically marginalized is really just bad form.
It's OK to admit when you're wrong, or at least stay silent. My transgender friends call themselves "transgender". At the very least, there's room on the subject. Coming down on people like the wrath of goosedom because they don't say thing particularly the way you want them to is....
Interesting note about Cass: Lategame, when you have your mana management down, blue buff is not all that important on you! Granted, CDR is nice, but since Cass has one skill with a "hard" cooldown of .5 seconds, and two DoT's that don't stack and last exactly as long as their cooldowns, CDR doesn't really benefit her too much; it lets her hit a few more guys with Q and have two E's out at once for a sec, but besides that it only gives her ult a bonus. Consider letting your jungler or, hell, even your carry or support start re-taking blue lategame.
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edited January 2012
Unless your enemies are dumb, you want that second W slow asap, in my experience. Blue also lets her poke/push/zone extremely well during sieges.
Unless your enemies are dumb, you want that second W slow asap, in my experience. Blue also lets her poke/push/zone extremely well during sieges.
Well yes, but there's no champion you can't say "20% CDR would be great right now!" except for on Ryze. The difference with Cass is that CDR only somewhat affects two of her abilities and doesn't affect one of them at all, whereas many people, even carries, are skill reliant and could use 20% CDR fully on all skills.
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It's interesting you say it doesn't affect E at all.
The thing is, you can cast E without hitting poison first. It's not prohibited. And a blue buff allows you to do that.
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Nothing like Tuesday morning for queue dodges in bot games.
Also let's not casually throw around the (historically loaded, semi-bigoted itself) word transgender, thanks. Trans people's far more inclusive and way better.
LGBT groups can be okay to downright terrible at inclusion of anyone, really; looking at them for true representation of any of the groups they've historically marginalized is really just bad form.
It's OK to admit when you're wrong, or at least stay silent. My transgender friends call themselves "transgender". At the very least, there's room on the subject. Coming down on people like the wrath of goosedom because they don't say thing particularly the way you want them to is....
bad form
See, the distinction is that self-determination and using that term to describe ourselves is fine; but it's very historically loaded with various forms of oppression and isn't inclusive of all identities and views in today's community. It's not good, or right, or even appropriate to try and use it as a term for people at large.
It's interesting you say it doesn't affect E at all.
The thing is, you can cast E without hitting poison first. It's not prohibited. And a blue buff allows you to do that.
You shouldnt e without poison unless its going to finish someone off or allow someone to finish them off cause you are going to be out of range. Otherwise its just pitiful dps.
Blue never hurts but with proper play cass can live with 1 dorans if you have mana regen yellows and keep q at rank 1, along with good micromanagement. If you are the best recipient for it sure. But if someone else can gain from blue you can play a strong game without it without needing to itemize. Its one of her best strengths to take advantage of that passive. Max stacks make her e and w cheap as fuuuuck
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The downside to this trick is not to do it more than twice, as the third time I ran into LeBlanc, Kennen, Sona and Gangplank in a bush
Also, if you haven't tried it before, there's a fun way of counterjungling as Lee Sin. Basically, Wriggle's + 1 ward asap. One ward in baron/dragon pit and 1 ward outside their red. It's your own personal counterjungling shuttle service.
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Jumping twice would be ideal but the chances are that LeBlanc would silence and murder me if I stuck around for the 2-3 seconds it takes to come off CD. I could walk up to their blue but I'd almost certainly be spotted by a Dragon/Baron ward.
Hmm I never mentioned LeBlanc, although replace her with Annie/Malz/Brand/Cassiopeia.
My advice would be to get flat armor yellow runes, they are pretty much always ideal for jungle pages
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Yeah, my list of "things to buy" consists of Shyvana or Udyr, flat armour yellows, flat AD reds, then scaling MR blues. I'd pick Warwick up if I'd seen him ever do well in the new jungle; it sucks that most of the good junglers and AD carries are expensive as hell.
You can grab sivir on the cheap for ad, and I have seen jungle poppy do disgusting things if IP is a huge issue
Wait for the patch notes though!
I'll have to look into Nasus' jungle-strengths. His ganks would be pretty good with Wither, but his only AoE is Spirit Fire, so he'd be slower than an AoE jungler. If you were good with the timing though, you could farm the crap out of your Q without worrying overmuch about enemy harassment.
For AD, as someone mentioned, Sivir is cheap, and REALLY GOOD right now. And people are only just figuring it out. She has so much burst for an AD, she just needs to keep an eye on her mana.
You should be pretty decent at mana-management given that you played so much support.
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I think Shyvana is the better choice at the moment. She's fast, super tanky, and extremely disruptive in teamfights. I like Udyr... but he's kinda 'meh' in my opinion. I put in 10-15 games with him and I couldn't get the hang of him.
All the other ranged carries are basically the opposite
May have told this one earlier. As GP I grabbed wolves, blue. Then I walked to mid, critted their mid for 240 damage and walked back into the jungle, instantly winning the lane for our mid.
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Also an elo type question for folks. I know that there is a hidden normal elo, but does anyone know if it operates in tiers as well? What I mean is that it seems like I hit plateaus of opponents, where I'll be doing very well in games then all of my opponents and team mates seem to get better all at the same time. Then I have a week or two of mediocre games until I adapt a bit, start doing well and going on a win streak, then it happens again.
LGBT groups can be okay to downright terrible at inclusion of anyone, really; looking at them for true representation of any of the groups they've historically marginalized is really just bad form.
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I did a little skarner jungle last night, besides being a bit of a mana hog I was liking it. I need a 2nd jungler in addition to trundle. I should buy udyr since he's been a top jungler from the start.
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But yeah that works well
Spell vamp is super vital
If you don't have blue buff 24/7 consider a tear
You can build tanky as her base damage is high enough
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It's OK to admit when you're wrong, or at least stay silent. My transgender friends call themselves "transgender". At the very least, there's room on the subject. Coming down on people like the wrath of goosedom because they don't say thing particularly the way you want them to is....
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Well yes, but there's no champion you can't say "20% CDR would be great right now!" except for on Ryze. The difference with Cass is that CDR only somewhat affects two of her abilities and doesn't affect one of them at all, whereas many people, even carries, are skill reliant and could use 20% CDR fully on all skills.
The thing is, you can cast E without hitting poison first. It's not prohibited. And a blue buff allows you to do that.
See, the distinction is that self-determination and using that term to describe ourselves is fine; but it's very historically loaded with various forms of oppression and isn't inclusive of all identities and views in today's community. It's not good, or right, or even appropriate to try and use it as a term for people at large.
You shouldnt e without poison unless its going to finish someone off or allow someone to finish them off cause you are going to be out of range. Otherwise its just pitiful dps.
Blue never hurts but with proper play cass can live with 1 dorans if you have mana regen yellows and keep q at rank 1, along with good micromanagement. If you are the best recipient for it sure. But if someone else can gain from blue you can play a strong game without it without needing to itemize. Its one of her best strengths to take advantage of that passive. Max stacks make her e and w cheap as fuuuuck
Cass E:
Cost: 50 / 60 / 70 / 80 / 90 mana
Magic Damage: 60 / 95 / 130 / 165 / 200 (+0.55 per ability power)
Annie Q:
Cost: 60 / 70 / 80 / 90 / 100 mana
Magic Damage: 85 / 125 / 165 / 205 / 245 (+0.7 per ability power)
Ryze Q:
Cost: 70 mana
Magic Damage: 40 / 65 / 90 / 115 / 140 (+0.2 per ability power) (+8% of max mana)
Kassadin Q:
Cost: 70 / 80 / 90 / 100 / 110 mana
Magic Damage: 80 / 130 / 180 / 230 / 280 (+0.7 per ability power)
So what you're saying is that you would never use any of these abilities because they're "pitiful dps"?
Cass's is obviously the least mana efficient, but that's not a consideration you care much about when you have a blue buff.