1.6 - Geebs is not amused :[ [Wampa Milk - SE++ TOR]

DJ Eebs

Yeah, you're not supposed to become attached to other people like that. Which is goofy, but whatevs.

There's a quest on Tython dealing with it.

Naphtali

there's a very early jedi quest where you're asked to spy on two padawans who are believed to be in a relationship

the dark side option is to lie about their involvement to their masters, so it is frowned upon apparently

DJ Eebs

it is

it doesn't help that the lady like, bribes you to keep the secret, and when you tell her no she comes right up to the edge of threatening to stab you until the dude's like WHOA NOW HOLD ON THERE

Bucketman

Well I know some people on the sith side talk about using passion to fuel your power, which seems like it would be the light side of the sith stuff. Not ruling through anger and fear, but through passion, about whatever I guess

DJ Eebs

the jedi order is pretty much against strong emotion

the argument is that when you are trying to harness such immense power, strong emotions can lead you to abuse that power and fall to the dark side

BlankZoe

While Star Wars is horribly unsubtle

I like that both the Jedi and the Sith aren't really straight up "WE ARE PURE GOOD/EVIL" in their ideals. Sith can be fueled by passion, which doesn't seem bad, and the Jedi's stance on no emotion at all is pretty shitty.

Bucketman

sounds like a pussy ass excuse to me. Maybe the first Jedi's girlfriend broke his heart and he was all "Now no one can have a girlfriend"

Der Waffle Mous

Bucketman wrote:

sounds like a pussy ass excuse to me. Maybe the first George Lucas' girlfriend broke his heart and he was all "Now no one can have a girlfriend"

DJ Eebs

it's probably more likely that somebody's wife got killed and he went on a rampage, force murderin' dudes and the jedi were like WHOAAAAAAAAAAAA

Beasteh

madness sorc is pretty much the most fun you can have

T4CT

The trick is to not be a lightsaber

The only thing my guy can't do is run around a twi'lek compound singing 'do your ears hang low' and poking their headtails because apparently that falls under hate crime

Munkus Beaver

Bucketman wrote:

sounds like a pussy ass excuse to me. Maybe the first Jedi's girlfriend broke his heart and he was all "Now no one can have a girlfriend"

Old testament star wars was about controlling your emotions, not being devoid of them. Luke had plenty of emotion throughout the series and in the EU that followed he was about balance and control. Obi and Yodah didn't get on Luke's dick even when he was hot for his sister.

Then whoops prequels.

Apolloh

The Geebs That Is A Pony wrote:

it's probably more likely that somebody's wife got killed and he went on a rampage, force murderin' dudes and the jedi were like WHOAAAAAAAAAAAA

Also, I don't know if i've said it in this thread but,

Palpatine is the Sith Emperor right? Just a timeless force-monster with unlimited power. Nobody ever mentions there being more than one Sith Emperor, unless theres lore I haven't read somewhere

DJ Eebs

Munkus Beaver wrote:

Bucketman wrote:

sounds like a pussy ass excuse to me. Maybe the first Jedi's girlfriend broke his heart and he was all "Now no one can have a girlfriend"

Old testament star wars was about controlling your emotions, not being devoid of them. Luke had plenty of emotion throughout the series and in the EU that followed he was about balance and control. Obi and Yodah didn't get on Luke's dick even when he was hot for his sister.

Then whoops prequels.

Well, and not to give Lucas credit for something he probably didn't intend, maybe that could be seen as a sign of why they fell, in the end. When Luke comes and builds his new Jedi Order, then everything will be fine.

Of course, looking at the fiction, everything goes to shit because GALAXY OF DARKNESS BLUHBLUHBLUH

Munkus Beaver

I am fairly certain Palpatine is not the Sith Emperor as that would be fucking insane.

DJ Eebs

Apolloh wrote:

The Geebs That Is A Pony wrote:

it's probably more likely that somebody's wife got killed and he went on a rampage, force murderin' dudes and the jedi were like WHOAAAAAAAAAAAA

Also, I don't know if i've said it in this thread but,

Palpatine is the Sith Emperor right? Just a timeless force-monster with unlimited power. Nobody ever mentions there being more than one Sith Emperor, unless theres lore I haven't read somewhere

I really

really

really

really

really

really

really

doubt it

Apolloh

Okay, just checking. It's just a very non-specific part of the lore, and it makes me wonder if it's left intentionally that way because of that reason.

Or i'm just fatnerding to the max

who knows

Munkus Beaver

The Geebs That Is A Pony wrote:

Munkus Beaver wrote:

Bucketman wrote:

sounds like a pussy ass excuse to me. Maybe the first Jedi's girlfriend broke his heart and he was all "Now no one can have a girlfriend"

Old testament star wars was about controlling your emotions, not being devoid of them. Luke had plenty of emotion throughout the series and in the EU that followed he was about balance and control. Obi and Yodah didn't get on Luke's dick even when he was hot for his sister.

Then whoops prequels.

Well, and not to give Lucas credit for something he probably didn't intend, maybe that could be seen as a sign of why they fell, in the end. When Luke comes and builds his new Jedi Order, then everything will be fine.

Of course, looking at the fiction, everything goes to shit because GALAXY OF DARKNESS BLUHBLUHBLUH

Well, the OT set it up that Luke was the chosen one to bring balance to the force by eliminating the dark side taint from the galaxy.

Then the prequels were all "SURPRISE COCKFAG" and had Vader bring 'balance' to the force by literally reducing the DS/LS balance to 2/2.

I don't like to give Lucas much credit for the LS Emotion-Nazi stuff because the stuff he wrote about it was so fucking bad.

Munkus Beaver

Apolloh wrote:

Okay, just checking. It's just a very non-specific part of the lore, and it makes me wonder if it's left intentionally that way because of that reason.

Or i'm just fatnerding to the max

who knows

Same way that Boba Fett's face was never shown, adds to the intrigue. The emperor can be dangled as a mysterious shadow and be a cool carrot.

Think about how much less cool Boba became when you saw Jango's face.

DJ Eebs

well there was also the part where his name is "jango"

Der Waffle Mous

I dunno.

I saw Once We Were Warriors years before the prequels came out and that just made him more badass and scary.

Apolloh

Jango was a shit name.

I get that analogy, makes sense.

But that would be mind fuckingly awesome if it were true and Palpatine has been alive for millennia

Munkus Beaver

Apolloh wrote:

Jango was a shit name.

I get that analogy, makes sense.

But that would be mind fuckingly awesome if it were true and Palpatine has been alive for millennia

I emphatically disagree.

Same way I cheered when Chewie was in the prequel then, upon immediate reflection, went "No wait, this is the stupidest pandering shit."

Apolloh

Munkus Beaver wrote:

Apolloh wrote:

Jango was a shit name.

I get that analogy, makes sense.

But that would be mind fuckingly awesome if it were true and Palpatine has been alive for millennia

I emphatically disagree.

Same way I cheered when Chewie was in the prequel then, upon immediate reflection, went "No wait, this is the stupidest pandering shit."

Well Chewie was in the prequel for like five seconds

like "Lol hey guys it's Chewie, remember him, okay time to fly away *fwoooooo*"

So I get that.

Different strokes about that Palpatine thing, but that's cool too! I would be just as happy to see Bioware make the Emperor a giant enemy crab

Gumpy

Palpatine was a man

A pretty dastardly man, who managed to work his way to the top via sneaky politics and limited use of magical lightning bolts

But twas just a man

DJ Eebs

been rockin' this look for like, 30 levels at this point

Gumpy

Star Wars doesn't do super powerful force gods or magical reindeer and I know that someone is now going to come into the thread and quote a pair of EU novels to disprove both those points so I am preparing to throw a book at them

Pony

geebs i got that same armor and gloves

where'd you get dem pants and hat

Apolloh

The Geebs That Is A Pony wrote:

been rockin' this look for like, 30 levels at this point

What class is that, IA operative?

Munkus Beaver

powertech

Rock Lobster!

Bounty Hunter

minor incident

Gumpy wrote:

Star Wars doesn't do super powerful force gods or magical reindeer and I know that someone is now going to come into the thread and quote a pair of EU novels to disprove both those points so I am preparing to throw a book at them

Well, there's at least one human character in SWTOR that's been alive for hundreds of years...

Day of the Bear

Bioware's Sith Emperor is probably a pureblood sith

Pony

there's a group of dudes on Dromund Kaas who believe

That Revan is the Sith Emperor, and the Dark Council are basically keeping him separate and imprisoned effectively

minor incident

Pony wrote:

there's a group of dudes on Dromund Kaas who believe

That Revan is the Sith Emperor, and the Dark Council are basically keeping him separate and imprisoned effectively

I was really hoping they were right, too.

Apolloh

Munkus Beaver wrote:

powertech

Immediately realized that when i posted it

i is dumb

End

TOR takes place like 3000-4000 years before the star wars movies
and a few hundred years after the first kotor games

so the emperor is a different dude

Apolloh

But doesn't the Emperor have immortal life or something, because i read somewhere that mentioned he was like 1400 years old at the point of the game

End

yeah he's pretty old but he's not the same guy

Like 1000 years before the movies the rule of two is created because apparently all the infighting between sith turns out to be a problem. We don't really know what happens besides that though, other than that eventually the republic basically wins (again) until the events in the movies happen

(Actually I guess we know a little, but a lot of it is intentionally unknown)

minor incident

Apolloh wrote:

But doesn't the Emperor have immortal life or something, because i read somewhere that mentioned he was like 1400 years old at the point of the game

Yep. The Sith Emperor (he DOES have a name and a bakstory and all that. He's not Palpatine/Sideous) in the game is well over a thousand years old. Also extremely powerful and extremely evil.