The new forums will be named Coin Return (based on the most recent vote)! You can check on the status and timeline of the transition to the new forums here.
The Guiding Principles and New Rules document is now in effect.

Moving to Maryland/DC! Like, I need to be there March 1st

schattenjaegerschattenjaeger Registered User regular
edited January 2012 in Help / Advice Forum
You might recall (I'd be surprised if anyone did) several months ago I posted a topic saying I might get moved to Boston around the March timeframe. Well, in my defense, in that topic I mentioned nothing was certain and I was getting ahead of myself. I was right, and that fell through. Long story short, this has come up instead, and IS happening, and is happening on like a super short timeframe. Neat!

So anyways, I'll be working in Greenbelt, MD, and was wondering what areas around there would be good selections. I'll be living in an apartment. I've been living with a roommate in a 2br/2bath nice 1200 sqft apartment for about 1200 bucks (600 each) a month for the past 3 years. I'm keen on living alone for a little while now, even though it looks like I should count myself lucky to get a decent 1br for 1200 in the area.

I've lived in the Clear Lake area near Houston for the last 5 years, about 20-30 miles from downtown Houston, really. As much as I've complained about my remoteness from the actual city (Clear Lake not really being...the ideal place...for a 26 year old single guy) I'm not sure I'm keen about diving right into the middle of Washington, D.C. proper. It'd be nice to have easy access to DC, and the places I've eyeballed so far seem fairly close. I have a friend there who used to live in Hyattsville, though he doesn't powerfully recommend it. He's in Tenleytown now, but that would put me on the other side of D.C. and I'm thinking that's not a clever idea. Places that people have suggested so far include Silver Spring, Bethesda (looks maybe too expensive...like their games! ehhh I tried), Montgomery County in general really, Greenbelt itself, even Laurel and Colombia (those seem a little remote). I know precisely nothing about the area (so why did I agree this? Hey I'm the one asking questions here!), so your comments on those places and other suggestions are super helpful, especially with the short time-table.

Anything unique to the area that will confuse and infuriate a life-long Texan? I've been hearing about this "pubic transport" but I don't get how you transport that ;)

Dammit, I have a host of questions that cycle through my head, and I can't recall them all. I guess the key is I find a place. I'll be heading out there for a week in early Feb to meet people and scout the area, so in a perfect world I guess I'd pick some options before then and then choose a place there.

schattenjaeger on

Posts

  • IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited January 2012
    One thing to know about the area is that commuting through or by any major hubs of work will be in a pain in the ass. Even doing a reverse commute isn't reliable, You can easily spend 2 hours trying to get to something that's 30 minutes away. Maryland/DC/Virginia drivers are aggressive but also just kinda weird and do dumb things in bad traffic. I assume most cities are similar but I learned to drive in NC and its a big difference if you are used to highways with less traffic and more room for mistakes.

    Basically, if you have a 9-5 and don't want want to have a stupid commute, I would avoid having to take 95 to work in the morning, if possible. The Metro is nice, though, and if you can live close enough to a station to utilize it, DC is a pretty interesting city.

    Silver spring was a nice-ish area when I grew up, and Montgomery county is mostly known for its extremely well funded schools. For a single 26yr old, the downtown is revitalized and I'm sure the costs will reflect that. Bethesda is a great place to eat and a horrible place to park.

    I am less familiar with that area of the state now. I grew up there but Im in Baltimore now, but thats my 2 cents

    Iruka on
  • kaliyamakaliyama Left to find less-moderated fora Registered User regular
    You might recall (I'd be surprised if anyone did) several months ago I posted a topic saying I might get moved to Boston around the March timeframe. Well, in my defense, in that topic I mentioned nothing was certain and I was getting ahead of myself. I was right, and that fell through. Long story short, this has come up instead, and IS happening, and is happening on like a super short timeframe. Neat!

    So anyways, I'll be working in Greenbelt, MD, and was wondering what areas around there would be good selections. I'll be living in an apartment. I've been living with a roommate in a 2br/2bath nice 1200 sqft apartment for about 1200 bucks (600 each) a month for the past 3 years. I'm keen on living alone for a little while now, even though it looks like I should count myself lucky to get a decent 1br for 1200 in the area.

    I've lived in the Clear Lake area near Houston for the last 5 years, about 20-30 miles from downtown Houston, really. As much as I've complained about my remoteness from the actual city (Clear Lake not really being...the ideal place...for a 26 year old single guy) I'm not sure I'm keen about diving right into the middle of Washington, D.C. proper. It'd be nice to have easy access to DC, and the places I've eyeballed so far seem fairly close. I have a friend there who used to live in Hyattsville, though he doesn't powerfully recommend it. He's in Tenleytown now, but that would put me on the other side of D.C. and I'm thinking that's not a clever idea. Places that people have suggested so far include Silver Spring, Bethesda (looks maybe too expensive...like their games! ehhh I tried), Montgomery County in general really, Greenbelt itself, even Laurel and Colombia (those seem a little remote). I know precisely nothing about the area (so why did I agree this? Hey I'm the one asking questions here!), so your comments on those places and other suggestions are super helpful, especially with the short time-table.

    Anything unique to the area that will confuse and infuriate a life-long Texan? I've been hearing about this "pubic transport" but I don't get how you transport that ;)

    Dammit, I have a host of questions that cycle through my head, and I can't recall them all. I guess the key is I find a place. I'll be heading out there for a week in early Feb to meet people and scout the area, so in a perfect world I guess I'd pick some options before then and then choose a place there.

    If you want to do DC, live near a metro stop. Silver Spring and Bethesda are both going to be nicer and be better for young people; Northern VA and DC proper have much better scene for 20-somethings, though. I'd recommend living somewhere such that you can go out at night in DC without having to drive.

    fwKS7.png?1
  • schattenjaegerschattenjaeger Registered User regular
    If you want to do DC, live near a metro stop. Silver Spring and Bethesda are both going to be nicer and be better for young people; Northern VA and DC proper have much better scene for 20-somethings, though. I'd recommend living somewhere such that you can go out at night in DC without having to drive.

    Ok, and that should be possible in places like Silver Spring and such, right? As far as northern VA, I'm guessing the commute would be murder?

  • KiplingKipling Registered User regular
    Clear Lake to Greenbelt sounds like NASA. If it is government (as in government employee), you can get subsidized (free) public transportation.

    Even if I am wrong, ask them about this now. And ask if they have a shuttle from the metro stop if this is a large company. If they do, you have more flexibility in getting to work. The Greenbelt stop is at the end of the Green Line. Silver Spring/Takoma would be roughly 5 stops with a transfer at Ford Totten. However, living right next to a metro stop can be pricey.

    Northern VA to Greenbelt would probably be set on fire to burn murder, if we classify the murder.

    3DS Friends: 1693-1781-7023
  • PlushyCthulhuPlushyCthulhu Registered User regular
    Goddard? I'm pretty sure they have a shuttle from Greenbelt metro (and maybe New Carrollton) so you have a little bit of freedom to live closer to the city and take decent public transportation. I definitely wouldn't live anyplace that requires a drive on the beltway or taking the metro through Metro Center/Gallery Place if I can help it (the west side of the Red line is pretty nice, but probably beyond your price range). For where you are I would probably look into cheap places near College Park, or up in Takoma Park/Silver Spring if you're sick of college kids. Be near a metro and you can explore the city easily, find what places you like, and maybe move closer in once your lease is up.

    Steam/LoL: plushycthulhu
  • CyberJackalCyberJackal Registered User regular
    Definitely find out how near your workplace is to the metro station, or if there's a shuttle available, if you're at all interested in commuting by public transportation. If you're not interested in doing that, then maybe you shouldn't try so hard to get near a station. Rent is much, much more expensive here in general, and especially so when you're talking about a place within walking distance of a station.

    If you do have the money to spend, Silver Spring would be a pretty good option. Lots of stuff around there, and pretty close to Greenbelt. I would point out though that Silver Spring is as urban as just about anywhere in DC, so if that's what is keeping you out of DC you might want to consider somewhere else.

  • NamrokNamrok Registered User regular
    Here is the only piece of advice I really have. Lately there has been a spike in shitty drivers driving shitty Honda Odysseys. It's insane. They go 10 mph slower than everyone else. Cut you off without warning or even using a signal. Dealing with minivans is bad enough, but this is the worst of all of them. And they've been cropping up EVERYWHERE in the DC/Metro area.

    But yeah, live as close to work as you can. Don't worry about money if you can afford it. It's a matter of how much your time is worth to you. You can spend 1200 on rent and have a 2-3 hour commute each day, or you can pay 1600 on rent and only commute 15 minutes. For anyone I know who can afford it, cutting off the commute is worth it. There is no luxury greater than having your TIME back.

  • CyberJackalCyberJackal Registered User regular
    Gotta agree with Namrok here... Keeping your commute as short as possible pays off big in the long run. After thinking about this some more, I'm gonna say that taking the train probably wouldn't be the best way for you to go. I mean, it's great for going into the city, where traffic and parking is a hassle. But Greenbelt is at the end of the line. I would say you would probably get a nicer place, a cheaper rent, and a shorter commute if you looked in and around Greenbelt itself.

    Granted, this is not as advantageous for going out and what not, so if that's more of a priority for you then Silver Spring is probably the way to go.

  • schattenjaegerschattenjaeger Registered User regular
    edited January 2012
    Thanks for the feedback everyone! Yes, Goddard is where I'll primarily be at, though I'm not a civil servant so I don't think I'd get government employee public transportation discounts.

    My boss at work suggested (with the disclaimer that he doesn't live there and just stayed at hotels in the there a couple of times...) the NoMa area. I was a little concerned by his use of the term "up-and-coming neighborhood," and my friend in DC was like "uhh...no."

    My early Feb trip has turned into a two-week stay now so I'll have lots of time to scout (and for those keeping track, not much time to actually pack and move O_O). I guess for starters I'll focus on Silver Spring, Greenbelt, Hyattsville, etc. It seems like all those places are just so close that they couldn't possibly be very different, but that might be the Texan in me (everything bigger, etc.).

    Anybody who's lived in apartments in the region, do you have any specific recommendations?


    EDIT: Oh right, finally remembered to ask. Does anyone have any experience with moving companies? I figure google and looking at reviews might work, but I'm always suspicious of public reviews given the various issues (only mad people review, small sample sizes, etc.)

    schattenjaeger on
  • Ziac45Ziac45 Registered User regular
    As someone who works in Laurel and Lives in Catonsville (Little north for you) I would say steer clear of Montgomery County and Columbia. Those are very rich areas and it will be hard to find something reasonable there. I pay 500 a month (total 1k split between me and my room mate) to get a 2 bedroom 1 bathroom in Catonsville (A much cheaper area then Columbia/Montgomery County. A few PAers live down here that might chime in and help you my advice is just to avoid those wealthy areas.

  • curly haired boycurly haired boy Your Friendly Neighborhood Torgue Dealer Registered User regular
    yeah iirc montgomery county is like the 2nd richest county in the NATION

    also, 410's a mess for commuting anywhere involving bethesda

    if you're working near/at goddard, there's lots of buses that make stops around there, but like any bus route they can be slow. you might want to look at places near the green line. it rolls through college park, so you might find some lower prices there. dunno.

    silver spring's got some really nice shops/entertainment now, and it's all situated near its red line stop.

    RxI0N.png
    Registered just for the Mass Effect threads | Steam: click ^^^ | Origin: curlyhairedboy
  • ToldoToldo But actually, WeegianRegistered User regular
    Welcome to PG County! My advice would be not to live here. Shoot for Silver Spring or farther west.

  • Ziac45Ziac45 Registered User regular
    Toldo wrote:
    Welcome to PG County! My advice would be not to live here. Shoot for Silver Spring or farther west.

    I would second not living in PG county,

  • sarnickosarnicko Registered User regular
    it really depends what you want man. if you are burning to experience D.C. then maybe try a compromise of college park? its right next to greenbelt but has a kinda fun little area due to the university, and prices are rape bad. If rent is the big deal then i would look at howard county laurel as it is rather cheap. Montgomery county is super expensive and doing a red line to green line transfer at totten then a shuttle ride is going to be annoying as fuck.

    i was offered a job at NOAA near goddard, and the place is not accesible to public transportation at all. if you rely on the shuttle service you need to be aware of their hours and they are usually limited. a car is almost a necessity with our crappy interconnection of public transportation.

    i come from baltimore down into dc at union every day and spend 4.5 hrs a day commuting. sucks a massive fat one. feel free to PM me with specific questions as i own a house in laurel grew up in PG county and Columbia and know this area very well.

  • Dr_KeenbeanDr_Keenbean Dumb as a butt Planet Express ShipRegistered User regular
    Ziac45 wrote:
    As someone who works in Laurel and Lives in Catonsville (Little north for you) I would say steer clear of Montgomery County and Columbia. Those are very rich areas and it will be hard to find something reasonable there. I pay 500 a month (total 1k split between me and my room mate) to get a 2 bedroom 1 bathroom in Catonsville (A much cheaper area then Columbia/Montgomery County. A few PAers live down here that might chime in and help you my advice is just to avoid those wealthy areas.

    Having lived in Howard County (Columbia, specifically) for several years I can say that yes it is way expensive. They seem awfully proud of their gasoline around there too. Anne Arundel County (Annapolis, Severna Park, Arnold) is also fairly expensive unless you get into the crummier areas (Pasadena, Glen Burnie).

    I currently live and work in St. Mary's County (about the southern tip of MD that juts out into the Chesapeake) but I grew up in the Baltimore/Annapolis corridor and I spend most weekends either in that area with my friends/family or in Bowie with my gf's friends/family.

    TLDR: I've spent 28.5 of my 30 years in MD, so feel free to PM me with questions.

    PSN/NNID/Steam: Dr_Keenbean
    3DS: 1650-8480-6786
    Switch: SW-0653-8208-4705
  • ioloiolo iolo Registered User regular
    In addition to Silver Spring, you might consider Takoma Park and Hyattsville. Takoma Park probably skews older with less rental housing (although there is some). Hyattsville is sort of up and coming with a bunch of restaurants opening recently. Both are on the Metro (for socializing and exploring. Doesn't look like you'll be Metroing to work.)

    Lt. Iolo's First Day
    Steam profile.
    Getting started with BATTLETECH: Part 1 / Part 2
  • PookiepooPookiepoo Registered User regular
    As with most big cities, the closer you live to the heart of the city or to public transit, the less you get for your money. Luckily for you, you don't have to commute into the city at all. If $1200 a month is your budget there is no reason to subject yourself to housing that is priced at a premium due to downtown commuting convenience, i.e. any place inside the beltway. If I were you, I'd look in Greenbelt or within 30 minutes of Greenbelt in directions away from the city.

    I used to commute to Goddard from Falls Church, VA and it was awful, like 3-4 hours in the car a day, so you are correct in assuming that VA is not the way to go.

    Goddard has free parking as far as I remember. Driving will save you tons of time and hassle.

    Steam: Pookie GG Now Playing: BattleTech, Divinity Original Sin 2, MechWarrior 5
  • CyberJackalCyberJackal Registered User regular
    For a specific recommendation, here's the place I just moved into in November. It's in Wheaton, so the neighborhood is a bit sketchy but not too bad. The building itself is quite new and pretty nice, and it sits right on top of the metro station (which is only two stops further out from Silver Spring). The price is pretty reasonable considering the location and how new the building is. FiOS is available also, so that's nice. A quick look at Google maps says it's only a ~25 minute drive to Goddard.

    The only genuine complaint I have is that the utility costs are much higher than my last place, but I don't know how much of that is due to the apartment and how much is due to Maryland (my last place was in Virginia).

  • schattenjaegerschattenjaeger Registered User regular
    Thanks for the continuing feedback! I am going to be there the next two weeks and am lining up places to look at. Cyberjackal, I was actually looking at the encore at wheaton station. Looks like that is basically your neighbor! I am going there Sunday to take a look, but a 350 fee per cat (I have two) probably sinks them outright. The apartments look similarly priced, I think I will give yours a call too.

    Err, how sketchy is not too bad? I said I didn't want to try DC proper, but I am trying to step up the urban living a bit since I am a suburb baby. And if you don't mind me asking, just how bad have the utilities been?

    I think my on paper winner before I have actually been anywhere is Silver Spring Towers. 1400 for their biggest 1 br with utilities included, a maneagable walk to the metro, and small cost for the pets. Does anyone have any familiarity with that particular place?

    Pretty crazy, two weeks up there and if I can find a place I will be moving in before March!

  • CyberJackalCyberJackal Registered User regular
    Well, I'm probably just being silly thinking of it as sketchy in the first place. I've been in the suburbs all of my life up until now, so I don't really know how to measure these things very well. It's just that there's a lot of aging/rundown buildings in the area, as well as some less reputable businesses (a pawn shop, an adult video store). I also saw a cop with a uniform that clearly identified him as dealing with gang activities.

    Personally, I haven't had any trouble. Also, the crime statistics that I looked over before moving didn't look any worse than other urban areas, such as Bethesda and Arlington. So, like I said, maybe a bit sketchy but certainly no slum.

    My gas and electric for the past month has been about 170. Winter is usually expensive, but I don't think it has been particularly cold.

  • KiplingKipling Registered User regular
    The Washington Post had a crime map.

    Ah, here. http://www.washingtonpost.com/real-estate/neighborhoods/crime.html

    Remember that these are not scaled. Areas like Silver Spring have huge numbers of people in a small area.

    3DS Friends: 1693-1781-7023
  • ioloiolo iolo Registered User regular
    Wheaton has a very high density of good 'cheap eats' type restaurants. It has benefited greatly from rents skyrocketing in "Chinatown" in DC (which is now largely devoid of Chinese restaurants).

    Lt. Iolo's First Day
    Steam profile.
    Getting started with BATTLETECH: Part 1 / Part 2
  • harry.timbershaftharry.timbershaft Registered User regular
    Greetings $fellow_government_employee!

    I just moved out of one of the busiest areas in NoVA (Tysons Corner) after living there for about six months. I was in a townhouse and paying about $2100/month. The rent was pretty high, but it was well worth it. It was ~10 minutes away from my office, on a bad day. Let me tell you, the traffic in NoVA/MD/DC is no joke (I came from a mid-west town of about 300,000 people). Live as close to work as possible (pay extra) and/or live near a metro stop that will take you there in short order. While extreme, during some of the horrible snow several years back, it took one of my neighbors almost 12 hours to get home from work. During a flood while I was living in the area, it was taking people 4 to 5 hours to go about 10 to 15 miles. In other words, if there's a major traffic impact, you're pretty much done for the night. Honestly, the traffic is the only thing I can complain about - living in the area is a blast. It's a cultural melting pot and there's a ton of stuff to do. Good luck and have fun!

  • FatsFats Corvallis, ORRegistered User regular
    We lived next to AU, on 44th St NW and Brandywine, and it was a great area. A brief walk to the Tenleytown/AU Red Line stop (with comically long escalators), next to Chevy Chase and a whole bunch of other stuff. Our house wasn't absurdly priced, although this was before the real estate nonsense.

    Might be a bit far to commute, though. I can't imagine the red to green line transfer is any fun, and I suppose it counts as "DC proper". Silver Spring seemed like a nice area, too.

Sign In or Register to comment.