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What To Do In The USA

Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality?Registered User regular
edited January 2012 in Help / Advice Forum
Hello USAsians,

My girlfriend is madly in love with the idea of traveling to the US for a holiday. At the moment, we are planning three weeks, around Halloween, to visit your strange land.

Initially the plan is to arrive in New York and see some places (museums, some kind of statue - the statue of freedom I think it's called - and so forth), before driving to New England for a while via car, then flying to Florida to visit the Harry Potter place and possibly Disney World. And finally going to New Orleans for Halloween.

We'd like to hire a car to drive from NY to New England, and Orlando to New Orleans (over a few days) and so I wanted to make sure that would be feasible as I'd be the one driving. We were also hoping for advice on things to do and see bearing in mind we won't really be the typical tourist (or maybe we will be, who knows) we don't really drink, and don't care for sports or hiking and so forth. On the other hand we do love eating so a semi-eating tour recommendation would be greatly appreciated (think Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives sort of thing).

So any recommendations for anything with these things in mind - from accommodation, to airlines, nice or otherwise scenic drives in this area, places that serve delicious and unique food or other sundry interesting tourist things would be much appreciated.

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  • ahavaahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    First, I want to give you a slight warning.

    Halloween is a good time to go, but be cautious about going too far north into New England around that time. There could very well already be snow on the ground, and if you're not used to driving in snow, it can be bad.

    Driving along I-95 from NYC to my parents place in southern delaware is about a good 6ish hour drive. Depending where you want to go in new England, it's almost that long the other way (Bangor, Maine to my parents place was 13 hours almost exactly). It's probably about 4 hours from NYC to Philadelphia and another 2 or 3 from there to Baltimore & DC.

    You can drive it, but it can be very tiring.

    If you're looking for history/art/food Then I, personally, would say stick to the 95-corridor. Boston, NY, Philly, Baltimore, DC, Richmond, Charleston. You'll get a taste of just about everything you can imagine if you stick there, from Boston Italian down to good ol' Soul Food and everything in between. Plus the historical sights in those places alone are enough to make you crazy. From the Boston Tea party to Independence Hall, the Capitol of the Confederacy to Fort Sumter it's all along the coast.

  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    edited January 2012
    Thanks for the snow warning, I haven't thought of that, and I have no experience whatsoever driving in those conditions.

    History, art, food and scenery (that we don't have to hike for) would be our plan, so that sounds pretty good. 13 hours sounds pretty doable over 3 to 5 days...

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  • JebusUDJebusUD Adventure! Candy IslandRegistered User regular
    Now, I'm no expert on the north east area, but couldn't you take the subway to wherever you are going? NYC to pretty much anywhere in the northeast has a train to it, especially to non-hiking places with history, art, and food.



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  • ThreeCubedThreeCubed Grandma Winky's fat ankles Registered User regular
    edited January 2012
    I think he intends to drive the car to New England, not around NYC. Because that would be bad.

    Accommodations depend on what you're looking for. If it's just a safe place to sleep at night when you're on the road between Orlando and New Orleans, motels that are good include La Quinta, Microtel, Holiday Inn, Best Western, Hampton Inn. You can always ask to see a room before committing to stay, in fact, I would suggest this.

    Airlines: not American Airlines. Fuck them. Southwest Airlines is usually cheapish, and it's not included in Kayak.com so you have to go to their website separately. Southwest.com

    While I'm on it: Kayak.com and Hotwire.com are the two website I use almost exclusively for travel, and I travel a fair amount for business. carrentals.com is also good.


    FYI: we refer to it as "renting a car" instead of "hiring a car." Some of the yokels you encounter might not understand "hire" to mean "rent."

    I'll add more as I think of it.

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  • ThreeCubedThreeCubed Grandma Winky's fat ankles Registered User regular
    The drive between Orlando and New Orleans is going to be a bit boring, I'm afraid. Blah blah only boring people are boring. But you're looking at long stretches of interstate highway. I think Australians are used to that, though?

    I only visit New England once a year, but I can tell you don't try to go between any two major cities on Sunday night. Spend Sunday night in one city, don't even THINK about leaving it.

    Hopefully someone will come up with things for you to do. When I travel, it's always for work and there's never time to sightsee. Except this: Epcot in Orlando is very cool and worth the visit. I could have skipped Disney entirely and just visited Epcot (Harry Potter world was sadly not complete when I was in Orlando).

    Americans can be quite friendly, so don't be afraid to ask for recommendations for restaurants from locals. The New Englanders especially will be keen to give you their opinions on seafood restaurants.

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  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    Fall in New England is either fantastic or miserable, so prepare for 40 degree rain, as it might happen. Can't comment on NYC, but I'd reserve a week or so for New England, split as follows:
    Days 1-3 - Boston
    Day 4 - Drive up to Portsmouth NH (1 hour north), spend day and night in that area (some cool historical stuff, beautiful downtown, fun bar scene)
    Day 5 - Drive to Portland ME (another hour north), repeat portsmouth activities, note that Portland has some amazing restaurants
    Depending on weather and preferences for large vs. small cities, you may want to alter your time in the cities
    Day 6 - Drive west from Portland ME to North Conway NH (an hour to an hour and a half)- go see beautiful vistas/white mountains
    Day 7 - North Conway Area activities (especially if you're fit and a hiker)
    Day 8 - Drive back towards Boston (2 and a half to 3 hours from North Conway), hiking Mt. Major in Alton NH on the way back (easy hike, amazing views of Lake Winnipesaukee and the whole area).

    Let me know if you need any eating/lodging reco's

  • ThreeCubedThreeCubed Grandma Winky's fat ankles Registered User regular
    Oh! I forgot to mention: one-way car rentals can be quite pricey. It honestly could be cheaper to fly between cities. I'm a fan of road trips, but honestly, your time might be better spent in the cities rather than driving between them.

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  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User, Transition Team regular
    edited January 2012
    Orlando to New Orleans is a pretty amazing drive, but very very long. Expect to spend about 12-14 hours road time on that drive, and more if you stop.
    Southwest and JetBlue are the US version of RyanAir, with all that comparison entails.

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  • ahavaahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    The 13 hours or so between Bangor Maine (which is 3 hours into the state itself) and my parents in Delaware can be done in 1 day. I know because I did it a lot.

    pretty much anywhere along the east coast is going to give you a history rich experience. I'm biased towards Philadelphia personally, but Boston is definitely my 2nd favorite. Richmond, Virginia is a truly gorgeous city with lots of history.

    Also, if you like E. A. Poe at all, let me know. There are Poe Houses/museums in Philadelphia, Baltimore, and Richmond. The one in Baltimore is the one I'm most familiar with, and it's right around the corner from the graveyard where Poe, his wife, and mother-in-law are all buried. Very very awesome museum, and the curator is a fantastic guy too.

    I mean, there is so much to do and see. The statue of Liberty, Ellis Island, Time Square, Independence Hall, Liberty Bell, Boston's Freedom Trail (it's a walk but not a hike and so very very worth it), Sturbridge Village, Williamsburg, etc etc etc. There are forts from pre revolution to WWII all along the coast. One of my favorite beaches back home in Delaware has the tall circular watchtowers that were used during WWII to keep eyes out for UBoats.

  • OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User regular
    er, nyc to philly is nowhere near four hours. that's maybe in like, the most raging-est of traffic. normally it's more like 2 hours.

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    For travel between NYC and New England, it's worth it to look into train routes. Amtrak has several routes leaving Penn Station in NYC, including one that goes directly to Vermont and one that goes to Maine (with a transfer in Boston). There are also regional rail companies servicing routes between NYC, Boston, and various smaller communities.

    For airlines, I basically feel like there are four choices: Southwest, JetBlue, Virgin, and everybody else. Southwest is generally cheaper than the other airlines. JetBlue and Virgin are a little nicer, more legroom and more amenities in coach. There's no reason to avoid any particular airline, though.

    Unless you're really in love with the idea of going to Orlando or New Orleans, I would consider removing them from your itinerary. Nothing against them - it's just that the US is really really big and a trip to Orlando and/or New Orleans is basically a trip in and of itself. You will have so much to see and do in the Northeast.

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  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    Well, the female is in love with the idea of going to Harry Potter world - so Orlando is more or less cemented in. I am flirting with the idea of seeing the Holyland as it will blow minds. Likewise, the female is obsessed with Halloween and loves the idea of the New Orleans street parties/halloween parades. I'll try to compare train trips and flights to driving - though they both have their ups and downs - stopping in small towns and going to small diners and cafes and so forth is great.

  • John MatrixJohn Matrix Registered User regular
    Harry Potter world is most excellent, I'd definitely get excited about that. A small tip - if you stay in a hotel that's part of Universal you can get into HP world an hour before everyone else with a general admission ticket. Also, when you enter HP world in the morning the first thing you should do is visit the stores. Olivander's first then the other stores because the lines get INSANE for a shop where everything is crazy expensive. See the stores then go do the rides.
    Would you be a fan of Top Gear by chance? Driving Orlando to New Orleans is kind of a boring-ish drive. I-10 is a good highway though so it's a straight shot. If you're driving that far might I suggest a little extra driving and head into Texas? Gotta get some real BBQ, maybe see the Grassy Knoll in Dallas, etc.
    Good luck!

  • ahavaahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    Organichu wrote:
    er, nyc to philly is nowhere near four hours. that's maybe in like, the most raging-est of traffic. normally it's more like 2 hours.

    maybe it just felt that way cause i'd been driving for 7 hours by that point. But NJ is a boring ride on 95/Turnpike. Almost as bad as Connecticut.

    OH The Turnpike. Toll Roads. If you are going to drive, there are tolls. And you have to pay a toll to get out of NJ. It's like a state freaking law or something stupid *this might be hyperbole*. But i don't know what the tolls are on the George Washington Bridge as of now, but they were around about $7 or so last time i went over. And the Turnpike from NYC to the Delaware memorial Bridge was just about $13.

    Just remembered about that.

  • ChopperDaveChopperDave Registered User regular
    edited January 2012
    New Orleans is supposed to have a pretty great Halloween, but since you're already planning to be in NY/New England I'd recommend Salem, Massachusetts.

    New Orleans Halloween is a lot like Mardi Gras, one big party. If you like drinking, dancing, elaborate/slutty costumes and parades (and good food and music), that's where you want to be.

    Salem does the "traditional" experience and they do it up right: corn mazes, haunted houses, spooky wagon rides through dark wooded areas, and a big witches ball. It's pretty much THE place to be in New England for Halloween, lot of fun. You can check out the website for 2011's festival here: http://www.salemhauntedhappenings.org/

    When flying, keep in mind that many (most?) US airlines now charge around $25 for each checked bag. That's one of the reasons I like JetBlue -- they still give you a free checked bag, so unless you manage to get everything into a carry-on bag, they don't end up being that much more expensive than the other airlines.

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  • GafotoGafoto Registered User regular
    By the way, a handy tool for checking out local interesting fare can be Yelp.com. Never a guaranteed method of finding the best places, but it does help avoid the dives that are actually bad versus the ones that are just kind of scuzzy.

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  • halkunhalkun Registered User regular
    About driving in the US. In America, a drivers license is issued by the state, and not by the federal government . If you drive here, you may want to check the state law on the matter. Also, i dont know how old you are, but if you are under 25, its going to be impossible to rent a car here.

  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    edited January 2012
    Harry Potter world is most excellent, I'd definitely get excited about that. A small tip - if you stay in a hotel that's part of Universal you can get into HP world an hour before everyone else with a general admission ticket. Also, when you enter HP world in the morning the first thing you should do is visit the stores. Olivander's first then the other stores because the lines get INSANE for a shop where everything is crazy expensive. See the stores then go do the rides.
    Would you be a fan of Top Gear by chance? Driving Orlando to New Orleans is kind of a boring-ish drive. I-10 is a good highway though so it's a straight shot. If you're driving that far might I suggest a little extra driving and head into Texas? Gotta get some real BBQ, maybe see the Grassy Knoll in Dallas, etc.
    Good luck!

    Harry Potter World is definitely worthwhile and the stores first idea is solid
    Also every region in the south has what they consider to be 'real BBQ' and are all completely different, if you have the time, I would suggest sampling as many as you're able to hit
    also sweet tea is a must

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  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    halkun wrote:
    About driving in the US. In America, a drivers license is issued by the state, and not by the federal government . If you drive here, you may want to check the state law on the matter. Also, i dont know how old you are, but if you are under 25, its going to be impossible to rent a car here.

    I will check into the former - I am 27 so I am ok on that front.

    Thanks for the tip.

    I will definitely be advocating the Harry Potter World strategy.

  • halkunhalkun Registered User regular
    Augh. The rest of my post was eaten, but here's another thing to watch out for. Different states have different laws of the road. For example, here in Wisconsin, we have no passing lane laws. This means you can pass on the left or the right and travel up to the speed limit on any lane. Go to another state, and you can get hit with an "Improper lane usage" ticket for passing a car in the "slow lane"

    No passing lane laws are awesome BTW. That means I can stay in the left hand lane and do the speed limit via cruise control and if you want to pass me... Well, go around then :twisted:

  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited January 2012
    You can come to Atlanta and see what a city looks like when it's razed and rebuilt during the industrial revolution. You'll find a variety of good food anywhere in Atlanta and the metro area. Just make sure you rent something that's fast and nimble. Mustangs are a popular choice.
    Most cars in good condition can handle it through.

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  • a5ehrena5ehren AtlantaRegistered User regular
    Harry Potter world is most excellent, I'd definitely get excited about that. A small tip - if you stay in a hotel that's part of Universal you can get into HP world an hour before everyone else with a general admission ticket. Also, when you enter HP world in the morning the first thing you should do is visit the stores. Olivander's first then the other stores because the lines get INSANE for a shop where everything is crazy expensive. See the stores then go do the rides.
    Would you be a fan of Top Gear by chance? Driving Orlando to New Orleans is kind of a boring-ish drive. I-10 is a good highway though so it's a straight shot. If you're driving that far might I suggest a little extra driving and head into Texas? Gotta get some real BBQ, maybe see the Grassy Knoll in Dallas, etc.
    Good luck!

    New Orleans to Dallas or Austin is almost as far as Orlando to New Orleans. I don't really recommend doing that if time is a concern.
    You can come to Atlanta and see what a city looks like when it's razed and rebuilt during the industrial revolution. You'll find a variety of good food anywhere in Atlanta and the metro area. Just make sure you rent something that's fast and nimble. Mustangs are a popular choice.
    As someone else who lives in Atlanta, I would really recommend not bothering coming here. It's a pretty crappy place for tourism unless you have a hard-on for Coca-Cola or the 1996 Olympics. :P

  • tarnoktarnok Registered User regular
    If you're interested in food I can't resist suggesting a short stop in North Carolina to have some barbecue since you'll probably be passing through anyway. North Carolina barbecue is, as far as I know, almost impossible to find anywhere else and sadly is getting harder to find here. Just make sure you get the good eastern style barbecue, not that stuff with the tomato sauce in it that those heathens in the west make.

    And if you're in a large city beware "barbecue" places that don't serve actual barbecue. There are a lot of these sort of places in Raleigh catering to all the displaced northerners. Look for cheesy looking statues of pigs in the lobby of the restaurant and/or nascar memorabilia as markers of a real barbecue place. Smithfield's is a chain that servers decent if not great traditional barbecue if you can't find anything else. Bill's in Wilson, NC is a good place for barbecue. Parker's in Greeneville and Wilson used to be very good but they've gone downhill somewhat. Hmm. Looking at that list you should probably just rule out any place that doesn't have a possessive noun as a name.

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited January 2012
    There's this BBQ place on the road from Winder to Athens that makes some stuff called BBQ but didn't make me think BBQ. It was kind of soupy.

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  • tarnoktarnok Registered User regular
    MKR wrote:
    There's this BBQ place on the road from Winder to Athens that makes some stuff called BBQ but didn't make me think BBQ. It was kind of soupy.

    Yeah, real eastern North Carolina barbecue is just slow roasted pulled pork with a sort of dressing of pepper vinegar. There should not be an appreciable amount of liquid to it. Those heathens in the west like to put some sort of tomato based sauce on it that might make it soupy though. If you ate that you should probably have an exorcism just to be safe.

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    edited January 2012
    Apothe0sis wrote:
    halkun wrote:
    About driving in the US. In America, a drivers license is issued by the state, and not by the federal government . If you drive here, you may want to check the state law on the matter. Also, i dont know how old you are, but if you are under 25, its going to be impossible to rent a car here.

    I will check into the former - I am 27 so I am ok on that front.

    Thanks for the tip.

    In general, most states "require" a foreign visitor to obtain a temporary driving permit for that state.

    However, in practice, nobody actually gives a shit. As long as your foreign driver's license is in English and has your picture and birthdate, (and as long as you're over 25 for car rentals) you're fine.

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  • ASimPersonASimPerson Cold... ... and hard.Registered User regular
    Double check with the rental companies' websites though. I was renting a car last week and I had to wait another 5 minutes in line at Hertz because some guy didn't bring all the documentation he needed and decided it was somehow the agent's fault.

  • oldsakoldsak Registered User regular
    NYC also has a pretty interesting Halloween parade for the record. It began as a small to do and gradually blew up. What is fun is that anyone can walk in it.

  • wonkaincwonkainc Registered User regular
    Word of warning that should be noted. Your plan is super ambitous. There is enough stuff to do in Orlando to last at least a week, and enough to do in NY to last a month. New Orleans has tons to do and see as well. I don't know they scope of your vacation plans, but unless you're considering spending a full week in all of the places you want to go you might not really be experiencing any of it. Spending most of your time and money on travel and not the things you actually want to do.

    Granted, I don't know your budget or timeframe. Just remember the US covers alot of milage. It's not nearly as dense or interconnected as Europe.

  • TastyfishTastyfish Registered User regular
    If you're going by Florida, then stop by Hommassa Spings. Don't need any qualifications to do so but you can go snorkalling with the manatees. Be practically on the way to New Orleans from Orlando.

  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    Will it be warm enough Tastyfish? That sounds interesting.

  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited February 2012
    Apothe0sis wrote:
    Will it be warm enough Tastyfish? That sounds interesting.

    Historical weekly averages for that area around Halloween are around:

    Max Ave Min
    Max Temperature 30 °C 30 °C 29 °C
    Mean Temperature 21 °C 21 °C 21 °C
    Min Temperature 14 °C 14 °C 13 °C

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    Apothe0sis wrote:
    Will it be warm enough Tastyfish? That sounds interesting.

    It could be mid-January and still be warm enough in Florida.

  • BagginsesBagginses __BANNED USERS regular
    Gafoto wrote:
    By the way, a handy tool for checking out local interesting fare can be Yelp.com. Never a guaranteed method of finding the best places, but it does help avoid the dives that are actually bad versus the ones that are just kind of scuzzy.

    Seriouseats is also heavily present in the northeast. You could even check out the pizza guide so you can try a slice from each region's native style.

    You might also want to stop in southern New England. Newport is always picturesque.

    Salem also has a really old candy company.

    I suppose you could also try Worcester or Springfield and, I don't know, get mugged or whatever it is they do for fun out there.

  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    This has all been very helpful.

    I can guarantee that we'll be visiting the candy company and seriouseats is looking to be very helpful.

    We've also decided to rearrange the trip and go for Halloween the extra-traditional way and do it in Salem. Instead of starting in New York and going north then south, instead it'll be something more like:

    Orlanda and Harry Potter World+Disney World drive to New Orleans over a few days stopping at interesting diners etc..., flying to New York for a few days, train from New York to New England and then with the big finish of Halloween in Salem.

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