Here's a list of errors people have found in the book so far
Some of them are rather petty but there is still an awful lot
Canon mistakes in ME: Deception
1. Gillian's autism - now she, by her own words, grew up from it, which is impossible. (note: the book said she used to be “unstable”, as if she had had anger issues or something.)
2. Quarian names - titling a quarian “Fothar vas Maynar” (and others) and referring to them as “Maynar” means that you are addressing them by the name of their ship, not by their own name.
3. Quarians referred to as “Gas suckers” - quarians breathe air, their masks only looks like gas mask, their function is the filtration of air. While this term is probably being used in a derogatory manner, the fact that quarians use enviro-suits hasn’t been used mockingly in the past, making it odd.
4. Claiming that Hendel never visited Omega before - Hendel was on Omega in Ascension for three chapters.
5. Hendel can't know that Anderson and Kahlee are together and on the Citadel - they got together after Hendel leaving with quarians and Kahlee had no contact with them (dialog between her and Grayson in Retribution and fact, that Gillian don't know about father's death).
6. Friendship of Gillian and Nick - The two only met once during Ascension, and at that time Nick attempted to bully her and Gillian responded with a powerful Singularity - not exactly the definition of friendship.
7. Gillian knowing about her adoption - nothing suggests this in Ascension or even in Retribution, in fact Grayson had strict order from TIM to pretend to be her real father, and he never wavered from the role.
8. Gillian claiming that other children in the Academy tormented her - nothing suggesting that, in fact they paid her very little notice, the incident with Nick was unique.
9. Tantalus Drive Core on batarian ship - Tantalus core was high secret experimental drive core first used on the Normandy, it’s doubtful that such an old batarian ship would have such a drive core. Additionally such a core, by itself, is equivalent to the cost of an entire cruiser class ship.
10. Aria T'Loak's biotic - Aria is very strong biotic, but in Deception she need her bodyguards to put barrier on her.
11. The Citadel is described as being star shaped - While unfolded the Citadel shares several features with the ‘star’ shape, having five arms and a central ring, but none of those five arms are pointed at the end - still making it a somewhat confusing description.
12. There is a batarian embassy in the Citadel - Batarians closed their embassy in after the Citadel Council sided with humans regarding border dispute, and there was no mention of such an embassy in the previous book..
13. Some characters visit Chora's Den - Chora's Den was closed after Sovereign’s attack on the Citadel and never re-opened.
14. Citadel surrounded by stars - Citadel is in the middle of nebula with only one star, Widow, visible.
15. Krogan dies when Kai Leng stabs knife in his neck and severs spine - Krogan biology doesn't work that way - there is a large hump covered in thick skin that prevents access to the krogan “neck”..
16. Biotics are told to have different levels in their Biotic abilities - There is no such thing, there are only different types of implants, such as the L2 and L3 implants for humans.
17. Hendel Mitra is described as heterosexual - Hendel was established as homosexual during Ascension.
18. Deception claims Asari found The Citadel first and learned to use mass effect technology after that - How did they get in the Citadel first without using mass effect?
19. Deception tells that The Citadel is a Reaper trap that Reapers used successfully during the events of ME1 - That never happened due to Prothean scientists reprogramming the Keepers
and Shepard foiling Sovereign’s plan to manually override Citadel relay function.
21. Asari are told to be asexual - In ME1 Liara describes Asari as mono-gender, all female species.
22. Quarian's names, continued - none of the quarians named in Deception have a clan-name (previous examples from Mass Effect video game/s: Tali'Zorah, Han'Gerrel, Daro'Xen, Shala'Raan, etc.)
23. Asari Council member saying "My God" - Asari don't believe in any form of male God, their religion is a monotheistic one based on the Goddess Athame.
24. Kai Leng visits an auction house on the batarian homeworld Khar'Shan - the batarian homeworld is closed off to outside races, especially humans.
25. Batarian pirates raid slaves from the Turian homeworld of Palaven - this could happen although highly unlikely due to the militaristic nature and training of turian society, and them having the largest fleet in the galaxy. And even if there had been a raid on Palaven, the turians would have likely responded with military action.
26. The public is allowed in the Citadel Council chamber - In ME1 very few people have a privilege to meet them, not the crowds described in Deception.
27. Characters Gillian and Nick are 18 years old in Deception - These characters were 12 - 13 years old in previous novels set 3 years before Deception
28. Hand Weapons that fire at "relativistic speeds" - for those who don't know it the term, relativistic speed means close or apprising the speed of light. The term is usually used when talking about speeds higher than 10% of C - considering that a sand corn fired of those speeds will have the impact of 90 kg TNT and also that a main gun on a Everest class dreadnought only fires at 1.8% of C I would say that relativistic speeds might be a bit high.
29. TIM's hideout - in Retribution it is written that TIM is hiding on a space station, which changes location after every visitor including Leng. Now TIM is on a planet and stays there after Leng's visit.
30. Gillian's visit in Afterlife - Afterlife is the most popular bar on Omega and people wait hours to get in (Retribution). Now Gillian enters it immediately and the bouncer doesn't stop her.
31. Quarian's clothing - Quarians wear environmentally-sealed 'enviro-suits' to protect their weakened immune systems... they do not wear "a motley collection of clothing, held together by a variety of straps and leather fasteners".
32. No Kinetic Barriers - In the ME games, as well as previous books, all hardsuits come with Kinetic Barriers (aka shields) that must be broken before the user can be killed by ranged weaponry. In Deception, there is only mention of weapons "chewing through armor" or poor references to Biotic Barriers on characters wearing hardsuits ala Nick.
33. Lack of security in Afterlife - In Retribution, Aria uses a secret backdoor to get in and out of Afterlife without her patrons knowing, and also has a series of backrooms for private conversations. Now she drives up to the front entrance in a limo, passing by several people who would want to kill her, and takes a call from the Illusive Man in her main lounge.
34. Kai Leng's Equipment is Inadequate - In Retribution, Kai Leng used a six man commando team to take down a non-biotic Paul Grayson, and later used a state of the art surveillance suite to track when Aria exited her secret entrance, which would alert him so that he could use the proper facilities when he needed to. Now he goes alone to take on powerful biotic Gillian and uses a sniper rifle to survey the main entrance of Afterlife, and is forced to pee in a vase so as not to miss anything.
35. Aria Learns that Cerberus killed her daughter, but continues working for them in Invasion - The reason Cerberus is able to work a deal with Aria in Retribution is because they promise info on her daughter's killer. In Invasion, which takes place after Deception, Aria continues to work with Cerberus and even allows them access to the Omega 4 Relay. But before that happens, she discovers that Kai Leng was the one who killed her daughter, and vows never to work with Cerberus again.
36. Character(s?) in Deception use their biotic abilities repeatedly - In ME canon using of biotic abilities is described to be extremely straining for biotics and that biotics require rest after using their abilities.
37. Udina not "named" as the Human Council member - at this point in time, Udina is the official 'canon' human Council member in Mass Effect's story, but Dietz refuses to use Udina's name for the human Councilor (even though the character's personality is clearly presented as Udina's, plus there can be no other individual in this role given the events of Retribution and Mass Effect 3).
38. Gillian gets new biotic implants in a few hours(?) operation in non medical facility - Biotic implants work with nervous systems and operation to replace implants is considered being extremely dangerous to the point that even biotics who have crippling side effects from their implants aren't usually willing to take a risk of brain damage etc. to upgrade their implants.
39. Gillian’s necklace - data storage in Gillian’s necklace containing a holo of an event which happened years after the creation of the necklace.
40. Batarian Slave Ship released to Gillian and company by Quarians - Quarians view ships as one of their most precious resource, and they would not be so willing to part with a fully functional ship by giving it to Gillian, especially when it has what appears to be a “Tantalus drive core”.
41. Ugho is in charge of the defense against the batarian slavers - He died in Ascension during the Cerberus attack on the Idenna.
42. Characters use Advanced Biotic Powers with no prior training - After getting her “implants” changed Gillian is able to produce Reave and Charge, powers that were before advanced and mostly exclusive to Shepard. Hendel later uses a Singularity with ease, despite never having that power and being surprised when Gillian herself used it in Ascension.
43. Refering to Aria as “T’Loak” and Kai Leng as “Leng” - In previous works, these characters are either refereed to by first or full name (Aria wants to talk to you) but now henchmen call Aria simply T’Loak. This is also the case in Invasion, so it cannot simply be new henchmen referring to her by that name.
44. Thousands dead every day - The novel states that thousands die on the Citadel every day, but given the approximate population of 13 million, this is beyond excessive.
45. There is no T’Loak family - Aria attends a funeral for her daughter where she is joined by members of the T’Loak family. However Aria T’Loak is a false name and Aria is on the run from old rivals, creditors and the law. It is extremely unlikely that she would return to Thessia, the asari homeworld where it would be easy to track her down.
46. Kai Leng knows who Liselle is - In Retribution Liselle’s identity as Aria’s daughter wasn’t well known, and Kai Leng didn’t know her name at all yet in Deception Kai Leng knows who she is quite well.
47. Timeline Issues - During the three years since Ascension both Nick and Gillian have aged six years. In addition, the attack on the Citadel is said to have taken place two years earlier, despite it actually taking place three years earlier. Among other issues.
48. Waiting for the slavers - When the quarians first detect the batarian slavers they have almost an hour of warning. Rather than immediately jumping into FTL which would make them undetectable to their enemies, they just stand and wait for the much more powerful ship to reach them.
49. Beryllium is no longer toxic - At one point, Gillian finds and carries with her slugs of Beryllium with no visible repercussions, when Beryllium is supposed to be highly toxic.
50. Beryllium as currency - It is stated that criminal enterprises are forced to use Beryllium (among others) as a form of currency, since credits could be tracked. This is in no way stated anywhere else in any other of the supplement materials or the games themselves. All
You know. The most annoying thing about this is that half of these things are stuff you could have learned from playing through the games(without even looking at the codex) and reading the first two books(both which I can read in under 3 hours, 3 hours each that is.)
These books must be easiest cash-ins ever, but I still wish that they didn't put them out. And at least if they did, that they got someone better than Karpshyn (sic?) or Dietz (shudder).
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Hm...still better than Dietz. And even they use the scare quotes.
All the "reaper" that started the offensive began with the universe is subjected to the crotch alien race that is transmitted from ancient times is said to exist.
I hope Mass Effect 3 doesn't have any Paragon responses that are just naive, or Renegade options that amount to being a jerk for no reason. 2 was distinctly better than 1 in that respect, and it'd be nice to have further improvement.
I admit to not recognizing the protagonist from portal, I guess
is it something I would get if I had played the second one?
hold your head high soldier, it ain't over yet
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
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DragkoniasThat Guy Who Does StuffYou Know, There. Registered Userregular
edited January 2012
Oh...the pic itself is just funny because of how goofy she looks. No gameplay needed.
That gun shoots portals that she must travel through to complete puzzles for the entertainment of a psychotic robot(and SCIENCE!). Thus the name of the game.
Hale vs Meer debates are one of those arguments that makes you wish you could bonk both sides heads together.
They're both fine. But I think Meer typically does paragon dialog better while Hale does renegade dialog better, at least from what I heard in the first game. FemShep always sounded pissed to me.
And from what I saw in the 20 minute intro video, I think Meer further improved his performance. It had a little more nuance to it.
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OrcaAlso known as EspressosaurusWrexRegistered Userregular
edited January 2012
It's because it reminds me of this:
And this:
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DragkoniasThat Guy Who Does StuffYou Know, There. Registered Userregular
edited January 2012
That flowchart is my favorite flowchart right next to the Street Fighter Ken one and the "Oh snap!" one.
Hale vs Meer debates are one of those arguments that makes you wish you could bonk both sides heads together.
They're both fine. But I think Meer typically does paragon dialog better while Hale does renegade dialog better, at least from what I heard in the first game. FemShep always sounded pissed to me.
And from what I saw in the 20 minute intro video, I think Meer further improved his performance. It had a little more nuance to it.
I like both but the one time I reaally don't like Hale is here
and now i've started my vanguard canon-shep and what the hell, it's on insanity
this should be interesting
i only finished mordin's recruitment and zaeed's loyalty so far and i'm already charging around pretty good, which is a good sign
i still got it
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Mass Effect 1 was a huge improvement over KotoR. The Dark Side options in that game usually involved flipping boxes of kittens over and shanking grannies for a few credits. Because that's what evil people do, you know?
Have they said what their thing you do on planets in ME3 is (Mako for ME1, mining for ME2)? I'm hoping for some sort of procedurally generated light turn based strategy minigame in the vein of Fire Emblem. Also the combat should just be ripped out of Valkyria Chronicles.
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"Instead, the whole scanning for minerals has been replaced with another system. Preston Watamaniuk said along the lines of replacing the mineral scanning with a search and rescue system; you can go around and explore these conflict zones - trying to find survivors and that's pretty much where we will be able to collect minerals and... things. I guess.
They didn't really go into much detail, but it makes sense doesn't it. I mean think about it.
The Reapers are destroying all life in the galaxy and I don't think Shepard can be seen in ME3 just... casually floating around a random planet and stripping it bare of resources at his own pace. I mean he could! But... well, yanno... *points back at Earth and entire planet is being razed* and... *points at Shepard, who is grinning/drooling as he gathers 2000 worth of Eezo*, yeah. You may as well let the Reapers win, heh.
The magazine says Preston is the 'probe-hating lead designer' but I didn't want to put probe hating on the thread title as it could... well... double entendre etc."
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These books must be easiest cash-ins ever, but I still wish that they didn't put them out. And at least if they did, that they got someone better than Karpshyn (sic?) or Dietz (shudder).
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fortunately my cooldowns are getting shorter so things are improving
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Do you have energy drain?
That works so very well with adepts
The renegade option should be to punch them all out for their stupidity.
Hm...still better than Dietz. And even they use the scare quotes.
Reapers: one bad STD.
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
And she's like your best bud too.
"HA HA!" *backstab, spray with gunfire*.
it's like the scifi equivalent of doing a schoolboy on somebody
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
I'll have to say "fuck you" on my Council-saving assholeShep run.
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
First thing I thought of.
You're joking, right? Tell me you're joking.
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
All renegade reactions are shooting someone who had it coming
Interrupts let you do it with explosions
It's Chel from Portal. You've played Portal, right?
If you haven't, drop and give give me a playthrough, soldier!
is it something I would get if I had played the second one?
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
That gun shoots portals that she must travel through to complete puzzles for the entertainment of a psychotic robot(and SCIENCE!). Thus the name of the game.
They're both fine. But I think Meer typically does paragon dialog better while Hale does renegade dialog better, at least from what I heard in the first game. FemShep always sounded pissed to me.
And from what I saw in the 20 minute intro video, I think Meer further improved his performance. It had a little more nuance to it.
And this:
I like both but the one time I reaally don't like Hale is here
I just think the way Meer agrees to sell it right after being offered more money is great
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Which is really, what the Vanguard experience is like.
February is going to be a long month
Leap years ;_;
this should be interesting
i only finished mordin's recruitment and zaeed's loyalty so far and i'm already charging around pretty good, which is a good sign
i still got it
I thought the re-use of the proving grounds button was great. If the Maw kills the Reaper, Wrex will welcome it into the clan as... Urdnot Hulud.
Oh, son of a bitch!
They didn't really go into much detail, but it makes sense doesn't it. I mean think about it.
The Reapers are destroying all life in the galaxy and I don't think Shepard can be seen in ME3 just... casually floating around a random planet and stripping it bare of resources at his own pace. I mean he could! But... well, yanno... *points back at Earth and entire planet is being razed* and... *points at Shepard, who is grinning/drooling as he gathers 2000 worth of Eezo*, yeah. You may as well let the Reapers win, heh.
The magazine says Preston is the 'probe-hating lead designer' but I didn't want to put probe hating on the thread title as it could... well... double entendre etc."
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/8973851/1
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