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The brand [GNU/Linux / Alternate OS] thread: Steam finally confirmed

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  • evilbobevilbob Registered User regular
    Is there anyone that likes Gnome 3? Only DE I've ever seen get more hate is Unity.

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  • FremFrem Registered User regular
    evilbob wrote: »
    Is there anyone that likes Gnome 3? Only DE I've ever seen get more hate is Unity.

    We exist. Back when I was window-manager-hopping in the Gnome 2 days, I designed my ideal desktop on a sheet of paper, then tried to get there using Openbox, xfce-launcher, etc. I didn’t get there, but what I wanted was very close to Gnome 3, right down to the “corner motion activates expose” action.

  • Descendant XDescendant X Hank Facepunch Registered User regular
    ...I like Gnome 3. I kinda just does everything I need it to.

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  • ThawmusThawmus Registered User regular
    If you want the real Budgie experience, try Solus. I tried it for over a year and I was a fan.

    Only reason I switched back to Ubuntu was because I needed certain packages (for work) not available in the Solus repos, but I would call that a corner case at best.

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  • V1mV1m Registered User regular
    Gnome 3 is the default desktop in Ubuntu 18.04? Is there a reason I should be sneering at it? It kind feels like a window-based GUI that happens to not be Windows Classic. Which is to say that it's definitely different, but it behaves approximately as I expect.

    Thawmus
  • ThawmusThawmus Registered User regular
    I don't understand or get the complaints about Gnome 3 but I think that's because I've also never dug into them.

    I do not like Ubuntu in general, though. I am a huge fan of application menus and severely dislike search functions pretending to be application menus.

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  • AridholAridhol Registered User regular
    I am generally a KDE guy but XFCE is awesome for minimalist installs or lower end machines.

    Gnome is completely inoffensive and has worked fine every time I've tried it so I don't get the hate either.

  • LD50LD50 Registered User regular
    Gnome reverses the ok/cancel buttons. It's 100% unusable garbage. All GTK apps should die.

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  • V1mV1m Registered User regular
    I ask because it's the only Linux distro I have tried. I wondered if I'm missing out on some superawsome GUI hookers and blackjack or something.

  • LD50LD50 Registered User regular
    V1m wrote: »
    I ask because it's the only Linux distro I have tried. I wondered if I'm missing out on some superawsome GUI hookers and blackjack or something.

    I mean, in all seriousness, it's probably fine (I haven't used it in awhile because while my above post was in jest, I do not like GTK). A lot of the complaints around Gnome are a lack of or hiding of features; if you find you can't do what you want with the window manager, switch to KDE and give that a try, otherwise you're not missing anything.

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  • Descendant XDescendant X Hank Facepunch Registered User regular
    edited November 2018
    V1m wrote: »
    I ask because it's the only Linux distro I have tried. I wondered if I'm missing out on some superawsome GUI hookers and blackjack or something.

    There's no better way to find out than to start installing all of the window managers to see what you like and then break your system in some arcane way and have to reinstall.

    Or you can download a whole bunch of distros and install all of them one by one only to find out that the one you were originally using is the one you like best and what's this you accidentally deleted your home folder that you had expressly put into another partition to avoid losing any of your data and now you have to reacquire all of your TV shows and movies and redownload ~750GB of Steam games you had installed for no particular reason and goddamnit you had all of your tax info in your Documents folder and nowhere else.

    Both of these scenarios may or may not have occurred in the Facepunch household. I ain't telling. Either scenario results in what I may or may not call a "nerd evening/weekend" as things get put back together. Or perhaps they don't because this has never happened. Or has it?

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  • AkimboEGAkimboEG Registered User regular
    Whenever I'm contemplating a big change in my work environment, I take a couple of my current projects and try things out in a virtual machine.

    I did this on Windows before the switch to Linux, again before moving to xfce, before upgrading to 18.04, and most recently before going ultrawide with i3.

    So many things broke along the way, but everything was safely contained in an easily restored sandbox. Also had the extra benefit of letting me stay with my current setup if I didn't end up liking the new one, without having to spend time restoring old configurations.

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  • LD50LD50 Registered User regular
    Or perhaps they don't because this has never happened. Or has it?

    I don't know. I lost my home directory and now I can't remember.

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  • ThawmusThawmus Registered User regular
    V1m wrote: »
    I ask because it's the only Linux distro I have tried. I wondered if I'm missing out on some superawsome GUI hookers and blackjack or something.

    There's no better way to find out than to start installing all of the window managers to see what you like and then break your system in some arcane way and have to reinstall.

    Or you can download a whole bunch of distros and install all of them one by one only to find out that the one you were originally using is the one you like best and what's this you accidentally deleted your home folder that you had expressly put into another partition to avoid losing any of your data and now you have to reacquire all of your TV shows and movies and redownload ~750GB of Steam games you had installed for no particular reason and goddamnit you had all of your tax info in your Documents folder and nowhere else.

    Both of these scenarios may or may not have occurred in the Facepunch household. I ain't telling. Either scenario results in what I may or may not call a "nerd evening/weekend" as things get put back together. Or perhaps they don't because this has never happened. Or has it?

    My problem has been that when I reinstall there's always some fucking thing in my .config folder that wants to make everything a terrible experience when I go to a new distro. So I've taken to either torching my .config or cherry-picking what I want to keep from my home folder and starting fresh each time.

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  • V1mV1m Registered User regular
    V1m wrote: »
    I ask because it's the only Linux distro I have tried. I wondered if I'm missing out on some superawsome GUI hookers and blackjack or something.

    There's no better way to find out than to start installing all of the window managers to see what you like and then break your system in some arcane way and have to reinstall.

    Or you can download a whole bunch of distros and install all of them one by one only to find out that the one you were originally using is the one you like best and what's this you accidentally deleted your home folder that you had expressly put into another partition to avoid losing any of your data and now you have to reacquire all of your TV shows and movies and redownload ~750GB of Steam games you had installed for no particular reason and goddamnit you had all of your tax info in your Documents folder and nowhere else.

    Both of these scenarios may or may not have occurred in the Facepunch household. I ain't telling. Either scenario results in what I may or may not call a "nerd evening/weekend" as things get put back together. Or perhaps they don't because this has never happened. Or has it?

    I switched to Linux in order to run the programs I want to use without undue fuckery (I am good and sick of being told I don't have "permission" to do things on my own PC) and without being advertised to by my own PC.

    Everything works. I am strongly disinclined to fuck with the setup I have while this is the case*; rolling the dice on a 96%-optimised setup in the hope of getting a 98% seems like a poor bet, and even if it succeeds, a very long time to recoup my investment of time and effort. if there's not some blackjack-and-hookers goodness I'm missing out on, I'll leave it as is.

    *My Windows 7 install lasted something like 7 or 8 years.

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  • Descendant XDescendant X Hank Facepunch Registered User regular
    You’re no fun at all, @V1m.

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  • V1mV1m Registered User regular
    When this vanilla Ubuntu install eventually goes wrong in some way, I promise to experiment!

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  • V1mV1m Registered User regular
    The WINE project continues with its outstanding momentum; https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Wine-4.0-Release-Plan

    tldr: Incorporation of all feature releases and updates this year into the new Stable release, code freeze planned at Dec 7th. WINE 4.0 due for release January.

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  • DarklyreDarklyre Registered User regular
    So I finally got everything up and running, and transferred all the stuff from my old Windows PC over to my new Linux desktop.

    I was worried about Steam not being able to run most of my games (Skyrim failed miserably, for example), but as it turns out most of the stuff I want to play has native Linux installs (CS:GO and CK2). Alt-tabbing in Mint is also faaaaar better than in Windows - before, any time I alt-tabbed out of a Valve game it led to massive slowdowns and lag. Now I can alt-tab out of CS:GO and not even notice any frame drops.

    This desktop is rock solid and I love it!

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  • V1mV1m Registered User regular
    Darklyre wrote: »
    So I finally got everything up and running, and transferred all the stuff from my old Windows PC over to my new Linux desktop.

    I was worried about Steam not being able to run most of my games (Skyrim failed miserably, for example), but as it turns out most of the stuff I want to play has native Linux installs (CS:GO and CK2). Alt-tabbing in Mint is also faaaaar better than in Windows - before, any time I alt-tabbed out of a Valve game it led to massive slowdowns and lag. Now I can alt-tab out of CS:GO and not even notice any frame drops.

    This desktop is rock solid and I love it!

    I have definitely seen people talking about playing Skyrim on Linux, so it's doable.

  • DarklyreDarklyre Registered User regular
    V1m wrote: »
    Darklyre wrote: »
    So I finally got everything up and running, and transferred all the stuff from my old Windows PC over to my new Linux desktop.

    I was worried about Steam not being able to run most of my games (Skyrim failed miserably, for example), but as it turns out most of the stuff I want to play has native Linux installs (CS:GO and CK2). Alt-tabbing in Mint is also faaaaar better than in Windows - before, any time I alt-tabbed out of a Valve game it led to massive slowdowns and lag. Now I can alt-tab out of CS:GO and not even notice any frame drops.

    This desktop is rock solid and I love it!

    I have definitely seen people talking about playing Skyrim on Linux, so it's doable.

    Yeah, I think it has something to do with my DX11 drivers or whatnot. I get as far as the splash screen and it just freezes. I'm sure I'll figure it out at some point.

  • evilbobevilbob Registered User regular
    protondb.com is your friend. Search for game, look at the most recent reports, see what tweaks people have made to get it working.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    On my walk home tonight:
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    15.04 is a choice, I guess?

    Pac Man's character is difficult to explain even to the Japanese -- he is an innocent character. He hasn't been educated to discern between good and evil. He acts more like a small child than a grown-up person. Think of him as a child learning in the course of his daily activities. If someone tells him guns are evil, he would be the type to rush out and eat guns. But he would most probably eat any gun, even the pistols of policemen who need them.
  • ThawmusThawmus Registered User regular
    It's technically a choice.

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited January 14
    *edit* wrong thread

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  • UselesswarriorUselesswarrior Registered User regular
    evilbob wrote: »
    Is there anyone that likes Gnome 3? Only DE I've ever seen get more hate is Unity.

    It’s the worst Linux DE, aside from all the other ones.

    Just kidding, Budgie is pretty good.

    To be real, there was a period about 10 years ago when Desktop Linux was great, but I have a real hard time going back to it in a post Mac supremacy world.

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  • Descendant XDescendant X Hank Facepunch Registered User regular
    We've got IT in the office today and tomorrow installing Windows 10.

    This makes me very sad.

    Something used to be here. It's gone now.
    ThawmusV1m
  • evilbobevilbob Registered User regular
    Steam play now lets you force running the Windows version through proton when a native version of a game exists. Can be handy for games with shitty ports. Tomb Raider 2013 for instance which runs like shit compared to Rise of the Tomb Raider despite the newer game looking much better.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    Trying stick with Antergos for a while. Any of you arch heads know what the best way to update an Arch-based system with some AUR packages currently is? Right now I'm just running "yay" without any arguments and it seems to work fine?

    Pac Man's character is difficult to explain even to the Japanese -- he is an innocent character. He hasn't been educated to discern between good and evil. He acts more like a small child than a grown-up person. Think of him as a child learning in the course of his daily activities. If someone tells him guns are evil, he would be the type to rush out and eat guns. But he would most probably eat any gun, even the pistols of policemen who need them.
  • V1mV1m Registered User regular
    There's a new Proton update (3.8.~) out. Seems to have fixed a swathe of compatibility issues.

    Thawmus
  • Descendant XDescendant X Hank Facepunch Registered User regular
    edited March 12
    Has anyone been able to get Divinity II to work on Proton without sacrificing a goat?

    Also, what’s a good distro to run VMware? I’d like to use PS4 Remote Play on my desktop in the basement and apparently VMware Player doesn’t work with rolling releases, which kneecaps my Manjaro install.

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  • evilbobevilbob Registered User regular
    Have the opportunity at the moment to distro swap. May as well try the whole arch/i3 thing I guess.

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  • Descendant XDescendant X Hank Facepunch Registered User regular
    Oh man, you’ll have fun with that. I loved my Arch install; pity it was so much of a fight to get things to work at times.

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  • evilbobevilbob Registered User regular
    I figure it'll be a struggle for a bit, but I have everything important backed up already, don't require immediate access to anything for the next week, and getting back to my current Mint/MATE setup is like a <1hr job if necessary.

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  • Descendant XDescendant X Hank Facepunch Registered User regular
    I’m probably going to have to do a distro change as well for a number of reasons, mostly to be able to run VMware but also to set up proper drives for games and media.

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  • SoggybiscuitSoggybiscuit At the edge of spacetime lies a path with no end.Registered User regular
    Anyone got a recommendation for a cloud storage solution that works on linux with a client, other than dropbox? I would love to use OneDrive, but that's hit or miss.

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  • RadiationRadiation Registered User regular
    edited March 28
    Nextcloud? Our Linux Users Group had a presentation about it over 2 years ago:
    https://rawgit.com/chuckf/nextcloud_talk/master/nextcloud_presentation.html

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  • ThawmusThawmus Registered User regular
    Radiation wrote: »
    Nextcloud? Our Linux Users Group had a presentation about it over 2 years ago:
    https://rawgit.com/chuckf/nextcloud_talk/master/nextcloud_presentation.html

    If I remember right, Nextcloud is a fork of Owncloud. While I've had good experiences with Owncloud, I was ultimately unimpressed with their mobile app. Also you have to build your own server for it, they don't have an actual cloud to work with, despite the name.

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  • RadiationRadiation Registered User regular
    Ah, misread the comment.
    Yeah you do setup your own cloud.

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  • ThawmusThawmus Registered User regular
    I miss Ubuntu One's file cloud. All they had to do was charge for it.

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