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    trentsteeltrentsteel Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Wren wrote: »
    trentsteel wrote: »
    Wren, why do you have a Tabard in your link that says you had a victory over Illidian Stormrage? I'm sorry but if there are already guilds beating the most badass of Warcraft villians I am glad I quit playing that fucking game. That's fucking bullshit. People powering theier way up to 70 rather than enjoying it fuck them grumble grumble

    No, I just killed all of Illidans top troopers/generals in Shadowmoon, right in front of him (well, right in front of his viewing crystal). Illidan gets all pissy and I get a new tabard.

    By yourself? Wow, your somewhat of a Spartan yourself Wren.....yet there you sit at home in real life, covered in cheetos dust and dried semen.


    I'm sorry I didn't mean that it just came out I miss warcraft

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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Wren wrote: »
    trentsteel wrote: »
    Wren, why do you have a Tabard in your link that says you had a victory over Illidian Stormrage? I'm sorry but if there are already guilds beating the most badass of Warcraft villians I am glad I quit playing that fucking game. That's fucking bullshit. People powering theier way up to 70 rather than enjoying it fuck them grumble grumble

    No, I just killed all of Illidans top troopers/generals in Shadowmoon, right in front of him (well, right in front of his viewing crystal). Illidan gets all pissy and I get a new tabard.

    Yeah, I did that a few days ago.


    He got maaaaaad.


    And as far as warcraft villains go, Illidan is a giant pussy.

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    WrenWren ninja_bird Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    trentsteel wrote: »
    By yourself? Wow, your somewhat of a Spartan yourself Wren.....yet there you sit at home in real life, covered in cheetos dust and dried semen.

    It was supposed to be a 3 man quest, but we needed 5 and then some outside help. Shit was hard.

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    CalliusCallius Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Druhim wrote: »
    This movie is so ridiculously over the top it's going to be great fun. I love all the idiots that are all, "rrraaawrrr Spartans were teh best evar lern ur history!"
    Certainly they performed admirably but they didn't do anything superhuman and it's idiotic to try and make comparisons across different technological eras.

    They killed babies.

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    TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Callius wrote: »
    Druhim wrote: »
    This movie is so ridiculously over the top it's going to be great fun. I love all the idiots that are all, "rrraaawrrr Spartans were teh best evar lern ur history!"
    Certainly they performed admirably but they didn't do anything superhuman and it's idiotic to try and make comparisons across different technological eras.

    They killed babies.

    True story. They murdered anyone not badass enough to be a spartan. This was especially true of their own children.

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    WrenWren ninja_bird Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    A practice that should still be in use today.

    Well, I mean, except for me.

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    CalliusCallius Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    On the one hand there's a sound biological reason, on the other hand humanity has thrived because we kicked biologies ass.

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    WrenWren ninja_bird Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    But, no one likes looking at disabled/handicapped people. Its awkward.

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    TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    If we did away with compassion the human race would be conquering worlds by the end of the century. The problem is "compassion" is synonymous with "humanity." Sure we'd become a fierce empire, but at what cost?

    AT WHAT COST?

    SPARTAAAAAAAAAAA!

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    DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    trentsteel wrote: »
    Wren, why do you have a Tabard in your link that says you had a victory over Illidian Stormrage? I'm sorry but if there are already guilds beating the most badass of Warcraft villians I am glad I quit playing that fucking game. That's fucking bullshit. People powering theier way up to 70 rather than enjoying it fuck them grumble grumble

    "Villain" is a bit of a stretch for Illidan. Illidan, if I recall, was a hero with good intentions at least three times in the WC3 storyline; He starts out imprisoned for selling to soul to gain demonic powers in an effort to save his people 10,000 years ago. He then consumes the skull of Gul'dan because he needs its power to kill Tychondrius, which ends up as a major victory for the Night Elves, and of course he's promptly told to fuck off for being a demon. Then in TFT he almost destroys the frozen throne, and the Lich King, and thus also Arthas, with the aid of the Naga, but the fucking Night Elves interrupt his spell/ritual and kill everybody, and then when he tries to destroy it up close and personal, without any support whatsoever from the Night Elves, Arthas stops him directly.

    So he's really been nothing but heroic and supremely self-sacrificing the entire time, and his own people have done nothing but punish him and stand in his way. Going insane or whatever hardly makes him a villain, and what are the odds that he's just misunderstood and misjudged yet again?

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    RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited March 2007
    (defender takes things a tad too seriously some times)

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    CalliusCallius Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    (defender takes things a tad too seriously some times)
    Yeah, but that post was actually interesting.

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    WrenWren ninja_bird Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    If we did away with compassion the human race would be conquering worlds by the end of the century. The problem is "compassion" is synonymous with "humanity." Sure we'd become a fierce empire, but at what cost?

    AT WHAT COST?

    SPARTAAAAAAAAAAA!

    No, "conquering lesser nations" is synonymous with humanity. compassion is a new concept we get to read about in books.

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    RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited March 2007
    Callius wrote: »
    (defender takes things a tad too seriously some times)
    Yeah, but that post was actually interesting.
    (I know, I just like giving him shit for his Warcraft knowledge.

    I'm pretty sure the entirety of the history of conflict in that fictional world can mostly be summed up as "OH SHIT A DEMON SLAUGHTER SLAUGHTER SLAUGHTER OH WAIT GROSS MISUNDERSTANDING")

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    TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Sure he tried to be a good guy, but he's gone nuts since then. Developing an obsession with Arthas and becoming a demon.

    So while he's not really a villian, much like Thrall or the Blood Elves are 'villians' but they're far from altruistic.

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    DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Callius wrote: »
    (defender takes things a tad too seriously some times)
    Yeah, but that post was actually interesting.

    Dude I don't cosplay as my tauren shaman, but it's just, like...I mean, did you pay attention to the story? He's practically the only character who isn't a crazy bigot and who trades his life (even his soul) for a people who he doesn't even rule or lead. It just a annoys me a little when people just don't even pay attention to the story and oversimplify it and then oversimplify it wrong.

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    RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited March 2007
    like, for serious though. Nobody in Warcraft is really a "good guy". That's kinda the cool part about it.

    edit: D, can't say I'm familiar with that particular part of the story, although I did read quite a bit of the Night Elves' history. But I don't get too deep into the lore. I just ain't got time for it.

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    WrenWren ninja_bird Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    since when did thrall become even close to a villian. you don't get to put villian in quotation marks and thrall together in the same sentence

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    DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Sure he tried to be a good guy, but he's gone nuts since then. Developing an obsession with Arthas and becoming a demon.

    So while he's not really a villian, much like Thrall or the Blood Elves are 'villians' but they're far from altruistic.

    Thrall isn't a villain in any way. He's done nothing evil, he's simply trying to rebuild his people.

    The Blood Elves are basically drug addicts.

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    CalliusCallius Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Yeah, I don't even know much about warcraft lore and I know that Thrall isn't a villain.

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    dushdush Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    i'm not completely sure why kael'thas is evil now

    one minute he was just a prince hanging out with his mostly murdered race and the next he's doing body shots off of infernals

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    RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited March 2007
    You can't really fault people for not being completely up to snuff on the lore of the Warcraft world, though. There's fucking hundreds of pages of that shit to read through, were you to put it all together.

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    WrenWren ninja_bird Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    The only real bad guys are the burning legion and by proxy, the undead they created. I guess the fel corrupted orcs who took it a little too seriously even after they were "freed" are evil too. Most of the human nobles were evil, but they're almost all dead now so it doesn't matter.

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    DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    like, for serious though. Nobody in Warcraft is really a "good guy". That's kinda the cool part about it.

    edit: D, can't say I'm familiar with that particular part of the story, although I did read quite a bit of the Night Elves' history. But I don't get too deep into the lore. I just ain't got time for it.

    There are good guys.

    Thrall's a good guy. I can't think of anything he's done that I could call "evil" and I can name several "good" things. Cairne is a good guy, albeit a minor character. Illidan's a good guy; he's treated like a villain by everyone, but he's still a good guy. Uther can be accused of some bigotry, but still, a good guy overall. Tyrande, what about her? Her whole career is just battling demons, there's no evil in her. I mean it's not cool to fuck your ex-boyfriend's brother, but still.

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    RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited March 2007
    wait wait wait wait wait

    WREN

    when the fuck did YOU get back? I've been campaigning to get you unbanned for like a year now!

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    TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    like, for serious though. Nobody in Warcraft is really a "good guy". That's kinda the cool part about it.

    See, this is what I mean.

    And I didn't mean to label Thrall as a villain. Was just saying he's part of an opposing faction if you're looking at it from a human perspective. Kind of like how Night Elves are supposed to be all harmonious with nature but their new world tree is causing some serious shit to go wrong with the land because they planted it selfishly in order to regain their immortality.

    But honestly, Illidan is going to stand in the way of both Alliance and Horde so there is going to be confrontation there.

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    DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    You can't really fault people for not being completely up to snuff on the lore of the Warcraft world, though. There's fucking hundreds of pages of that shit to read through, were you to put it all together.

    Yeah, but I'm just talking about shit that happened in RoC and TFT here. No reading required, you just play through the campaigns.

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    WrenWren ninja_bird Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I got back when the new forums came up.



    Illidan is a mixed bag. He's an ends justify the means sorta guy, for protecting the night elves (or really, his only one true love). Now he's not even doing that, he's sorta scheming and being paranoid in outlands now. 10,000 years of solitary confinment, then constant dealing with demons would likely send anyone over the edge.

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    RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited March 2007
    Defender wrote: »
    You can't really fault people for not being completely up to snuff on the lore of the Warcraft world, though. There's fucking hundreds of pages of that shit to read through, were you to put it all together.

    Yeah, but I'm just talking about shit that happened in RoC and TFT here. No reading required, you just play through the campaigns.

    Oh.

    Well.

    In that case.


    Gaaaaaaaay.


    (I've not played through them, but always meant to.)

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    DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Wren wrote: »
    I got back when the new forums came up.



    Illidan is a mixed bag. He's an ends justify the means sorta guy, for protecting the night elves (or really, his only one true love). Now he's not even doing that, he's sorta scheming and being paranoid in outlands now. 10,000 years of solitary confinment, then constant dealing with demons would likely send anyone over the edge.

    Plus every time he tries to help, his brother shuts him down and steals his girlfriend. That's sort of maddening.

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    RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited March 2007
    Sounds like his girl is kind of a dumb slut if she totally gets lured away by a dude's brother all the damn time.

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    DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Callius wrote: »
    (defender takes things a tad too seriously some times)
    Yeah, but that post was actually interesting.
    (I know, I just like giving him shit for his Warcraft knowledge.

    I'm pretty sure the entirety of the history of conflict in that fictional world can mostly be summed up as "OH SHIT A DEMON SLAUGHTER SLAUGHTER SLAUGHTER OH WAIT GROSS MISUNDERSTANDING")

    Man I don't even know that much. I know basically what was in the WC3 storyline, because I played the game, and I know what I hear from WoW players. It's not like I went to thottbot or wherever all the lore is posted and read through it.

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    TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    The Draenei are pretty close to 'good guys' as you can get. Also Thrall is a pretty solid hero.

    But you know who were really awesome? Spartans.
    I mean, they were fascists but compared to the Persian Empire I'd cheer for Sparta any day. Hey, how about that movie huh?

    EDIT: WoWwiki has the lore.

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    DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Sounds like his girl is kind of a dumb slut if she totally gets lured away by a dude's brother all the damn time.

    Well I mean ONE time, but it's lasted for ten thousand years while he's been in prison, tattooing his whole body with a spoon.

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    RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited March 2007
    a spoon?

    how would that even work?

    see, now I don't think I like warcraft at all. That shit just don't make no damn sense.

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    TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Defender wrote: »
    Sounds like his girl is kind of a dumb slut if she totally gets lured away by a dude's brother all the damn time.

    Well I mean ONE time, but it's lasted for ten thousand years while he's been in prison, tattooing his whole body with a spoon.

    Honestly, if you're gonna be away for 10 thousand years you have to expect the ho to move on. Illidan has a problem of only seeing things 'his' way. Very uncompromising.

    Damnit I'm back to talking about Warcraft!

    -Oh and he used demonic magic, not a spoon.

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    RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited March 2007
    oh okay demon magic makes hella more sense

    so that's cool

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    DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    a spoon?

    how would that even work?

    see, now I don't think I like warcraft at all. That shit just don't make no damn sense.

    Prison tattoos, man.

    EDIT: Goddammit I was not serious that he tattooed himself with a spoon. Jesus.

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    RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited March 2007
    also GOD DAMN IT I DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT NO WARCRAFT DAMMIT


    let's talk about 300

    you know what is weird?

    That "red sauce with pasta" thing is traveling all over the damn place. I was hanging out with some buddies and my friend was on myspace, and he started cracking up. He goes, HEY LOOK AT THIS PICTURE HERE

    and some faggot had the redsauce gif on his fucking myspace

    kinda weird to see something you made travel like that

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    RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited March 2007
    Defender wrote: »
    a spoon?

    how would that even work?

    see, now I don't think I like warcraft at all. That shit just don't make no damn sense.

    Prison tattoos, man.

    you don't make no prison tattoos out of no spoons, Dizzle. Ya make em out of a cigarette filter and a sewing needle.

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