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Robot Uprising [chat]

Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nipsRegistered User regular
edited February 2012 in Debate and/or Discourse
Boston Dynamics is going to cause the robot apocalypse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mclbVTIYG8E

Discuss.

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  • skippydumptruckskippydumptruck Registered User regular
    cism

  • LudiousLudious I just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered User regular
    Aint mean nothing until they make conscious A.I.

    which is a pipe dream so don't worry!

  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    re: Ronya




    Brad DeLong? The guy that gave us NAFTA? My criticisms of him largely lie in my criticisms of NAFTA. I check his blog from time to time. It's linked to fairly often in the blogosphere I frequent.

  • LaOsLaOs SaskatoonRegistered User regular
    My favourite re-cut of that PETMAN video is the one that's set to Stayin' Alive (if I recall).

  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    DK IS THE CUTEST

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  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    things I love about Bastion:

    1. it is the most gorgeous thing, ever

    2. gameplay is hella solid. Never gets frustrating.

    3. the soundtrack, my god.

    4. Story is great, but the greatest thing about it all is that it's told in a manner that can only be done by this medium. There are games that tell their story like a book does, and there are games that tell their story like it's a movie; I've never seen a game tell it like it's a game, not this well.

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  • TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    Ludious wrote:
    Aint mean nothing until they make conscious A.I.

    which is a pipe dream so don't worry!

    Why do you say it's a pipe dream?

  • WashWash Sweet Christmas Registered User regular
    Aww yiss, one of my classes was cancelled. Goin' home early 8-)

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  • Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    LaOs wrote:
    My favourite re-cut of that PETMAN video is the one that's set to Stayin' Alive (if I recall).

    It really does have the greatest pimp strut.

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  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo We are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourse Registered User regular
    Abdhyius wrote:
    things I love about Bastion:

    1. it is the most gorgeous thing, ever

    2. gameplay is hella solid. Never gets frustrating.

    3. the soundtrack, my god.

    4. Story is great, but the greatest thing about it all is that it's told in a manner that can only be done by this medium. There are games that tell their story like a book does, and there are games that tell their story like it's a movie; I've never seen a game tell it like it's a game, not this well.

    I'd say Nier does number 4 too. Although it's a real flawed gem, so I wouldn't recommend it too highly.

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  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    TL DR wrote:
    Ludious wrote:
    Aint mean nothing until they make conscious A.I.

    which is a pipe dream so don't worry!

    Why do you say it's a pipe dream?

    they won't have SOULS GIVEN BY G-D!

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  • EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular
    DK is pretty kawaii

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    and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
  • LaOsLaOs SaskatoonRegistered User regular
    LaOs wrote:
    My favourite re-cut of that PETMAN video is the one that's set to Stayin' Alive (if I recall).

    It really does have the greatest pimp strut.

    Truly.

    And it's well-timed.

  • DynagripDynagrip Break me a million hearts HoustonRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    @ronya

    http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/22027107#Comment_22027107

    I know but it's still super frustrating. the anti-human caused climate change crowd is so fucking pigheaded. it is highly similar to arguing about evolution.

  • deadlyrhetoricdeadlyrhetoric "We could be two straight lines in a crooked world."__BANNED USERS regular
    yo this office place construction going on in my direct vicinity is affecting my work pretty negatively

  • Dread Pirate ArbuthnotDread Pirate Arbuthnot OMG WRIGGLY T O X O P L A S M O S I SRegistered User regular
    cleaning underneath the bed is really aggravating

    has anyone come up with a method better than a) moving the entire bed aside or b) getting a broom and knocking all the debris out from underneath the bed with big sweeping motions

  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Dynagrip wrote:
    @ronya

    http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/22027107#Comment_22027107

    I know but it's still super frustrating. the anti-human caused climate change crowd is so fucking pigheaded. it is highly similar to arguing about evolution.

    the pro-human caused climate change crowd can be equally pigheaded

    as someone who has argued with the same kind of person but politically mirrored

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  • ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    Sheep wrote:
    Brad DeLong? The guy that gave us NAFTA? My criticisms of him largely lie in my criticisms of NAFTA. I check his blog from time to time. It's linked to fairly often in the blogosphere I frequent.

    Yes, the guy who maintained and continues to maintain that NAFTA was a net benefit. He is most representative of the American brand of Clintonian third-way (neo)liberalism in the academic blogs, mostly because he was actually part of it. Also because he vociferously insults everyone and anyone, so arguing with him always generates traffic.
    Even then, in non Social Democratic theories, keeping with international proletarian unity there was a strict need for local representation and government. Russian SFSR, Communist China prior to unification, Mongolia, Eastern Europe prior to Stalinization. Huge huge emphasis on local governance with over arching governing bodies to handle international trade, exporting of the revolution, etc.

    Of course, all of this was pretty much killed approximately 100 years ago.

    I regard "local representation and government" as vulnerable to organized capital and other social institutions with non-egalitarian instincts - fundamentally one has organized capital at supernational scales and this is the efficient way to mobilize very large amounts of labour and capital, so it's not going to go away as long as we desire the material wealth they can produce. But crushing nascent localist nationhood at the heel of economic forces is not, I suppose, palatable, even if it done in the name of The People.

    As a political-economy problem, bluntly people vote for leaders they identify with rather than their narrow class interest - unless they first identify with their class, which (let us acknowledge) they don't - so one has the permanent problem of local leaders extracting hilarious amounts of rent by continually waving the specter of Foreigners. Nationalism is a potent force - far more potent than unity of the working class, as World War I taught us.

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  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    cleaning underneath the bed is really aggravating

    has anyone come up with a method better than a) moving the entire bed aside or b) getting a broom and knocking all the debris out from underneath the bed with big sweeping motions

    water and one of them big window-cleaning like tools which I don't know the name of in english

    get on your stomach and use a rag for the corners

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  • Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    I imagine the first time people at Honda saw the PETMAN video, it went something like this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtntTvuv8Aw

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  • WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    I can't tell if I'm really awkward or if my lab partner is really awkward.

  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    Probably both!

  • LudiousLudious I just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered User regular
    It's a pipe dream at this stage is human technological evolution I should say.

    Someone isn't going to "accidentally" create conscious A.I. that's just not how the real world works.

    I also don't believe in the singularity.

  • PodlyPodly you unzipped me! it's all coming back! i don't like it!Registered User regular
    Bagel and lox GET

    follow my music twitter soundcloud tumblr
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  • deadlyrhetoricdeadlyrhetoric "We could be two straight lines in a crooked world."__BANNED USERS regular
    @Podly

    do you have an iphone?

    if so, do you know of any good production apps?

    i'm too tired to make music when i get home from work

    so i want make beats on the crapper @ work.

  • EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular
    Wouldn't that cancel out? Isn't that how awkward waves function? I'm a little rusty on my quantum mechanics

    "and the morning stars I have seen
    and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Ludious wrote:
    It's a pipe dream at this stage is human technological evolution I should say.

    Someone isn't going to "accidentally" create conscious A.I. that's just not how the real world works.

    I also don't believe in the singularity.

    so... it's a pipe dream because we can't do it now?

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  • ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    edited February 2012
    Abdhyius wrote:
    Dynagrip wrote:
    @ronya

    http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/22027107#Comment_22027107

    I know but it's still super frustrating. the anti-human caused climate change crowd is so fucking pigheaded. it is highly similar to arguing about evolution.

    the pro-human caused climate change crowd can be equally pigheaded

    as someone who has argued with the same kind of person but politically mirrored

    honestly political evangelism is a full-time career here - the field is too complex and any sources you, an amateur, can quote are easily countered by a slightly-better-trained opposition researcher who is easily available via Google

    which will give your interlocutor the experience of watching you make an amateur statement, and then he finds some source that deconstructs your statement and shows precisely what is wrong with it, and then you have to revise what you said and hedge and qualify because climate change is Complicated, and then he finds a yet more sophisticated source that picks apart your current stance, etc. If you think anyone is going to walk away from an experience of You Being Continually Wrong with more uncertainty in their position (as a rational Bayesian might) rather than less, you have far more faith in human nature than I think is reasonable

    ronya on
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  • GooeyGooey (\/)┌¶─¶┐(\/) pinch pinchRegistered User regular
    honda's robot is stupid and falls down a lot

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  • WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    Podly wrote:
    Bagel and lox GET

    Watch out for Cre. They'll snip your lox right out.

  • LudiousLudious I just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered User regular
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Eddy wrote:
    Wouldn't that cancel out? Isn't that how awkward waves function? I'm a little rusty on my quantum mechanics

    when both are awkward, you'd have stronger awkwardness

    when they're in opposition you'd have destructive interference and get some sort mean-level awkwardness

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  • LudiousLudious I just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered User regular
    Abdhyius wrote:
    Ludious wrote:
    It's a pipe dream at this stage is human technological evolution I should say.

    Someone isn't going to "accidentally" create conscious A.I. that's just not how the real world works.

    I also don't believe in the singularity.

    so... it's a pipe dream because we can't do it now?

    We'll be dead so yeah. It is a pipe dream

  • Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    Gooey wrote:
    honda's robot is stupid and falls down a lot

    It always looks like it's about to drop a load and it has gigantic feet for stability.

    Petman has a pimp strut and wears people shoes.

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  • TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    I don't believe AI is possible because then my consciousness isn't a unique flower

  • TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    Ludious wrote:
    Abdhyius wrote:
    Ludious wrote:
    It's a pipe dream at this stage is human technological evolution I should say.

    Someone isn't going to "accidentally" create conscious A.I. that's just not how the real world works.

    I also don't believe in the singularity.

    so... it's a pipe dream because we can't do it now?

    We'll be dead so yeah. It is a pipe dream

    Speak for yourself. I'm going to live to be 100, easy.

  • WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    Eddy wrote:
    Wouldn't that cancel out? Isn't that how awkward waves function? I'm a little rusty on my quantum mechanics

    No, not when the awkward waves are in phase, in which case you get awkward amplification.

  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Ludious wrote:
    Abdhyius wrote:
    Ludious wrote:
    It's a pipe dream at this stage is human technological evolution I should say.

    Someone isn't going to "accidentally" create conscious A.I. that's just not how the real world works.

    I also don't believe in the singularity.

    so... it's a pipe dream because we can't do it now?

    We'll be dead so yeah. It is a pipe dream

    that's not what pipe dream means at all

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  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    EA's stock rocketing to $20!

  • EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular
    Winkster can you quantify the level of awkwardness present? I need this to check on against figures

    "and the morning stars I have seen
    and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
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