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PA Comic: Monday, February 13th: Doubleton Abbey
Munkus Beaver
You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
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Doublefine is Schafer's company.
Doubleton Abbey is the name of the comic.
I guess cause they were discussing it last comic? :P
This one is great.
1916 Gabe looks the same as 1960 Gabe.
My..only weakness..!
Oh okay, I was wondering what was up with the outfits.
I'm glad Tycho is sticking to his guns. Nobody has conviction these days.
I don't remember a 1960 Gabe, where is that from?
Madmen Gabe.
Also, if this is based off a british show, then one of them should be saying hairs on a bobbin.
Continuity.
You're part of the problem.
What, for liking good games?
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And the RTS stuff was extremely clumsy to control, despite being essentially the core gameplay.
There's a fallacy there somewhere.
I too loved Legends of Brutality: The Jack Black Saga.
However, I think what Double Fine is doing here is quite amazing... in just what? 1 or 2 days they've raised $1.6million to fund this game. I also put in my $15 for the ability to play it once they've made it. I'm one of many gamers who trust and adore Double Fine enough to give them my money before I even know what it is I'm buying.
If they can prove that publishers aren't needed to fund games, that large even Triple A developers can cut out the middle man altogether and go directly to the gaming masses for the money to make their games, we could see a dynamic shift in the industry that moves away from playing it safe with the tried and true formulas for game sales which results in dozens of generic big budget games each year.... and instead see a reemergence of the creative unique games that flourished in the 80's and 90's, since taking a "risk" on unknown game formula won't be an issue if the game has already been fully paid for.
I don't think that's true. The game still had a lot of the brawling stuff in it, even when the RTS stuff got into full swing. They did a good job of balancing the two in my opinion.
Even if this did constitute a brilliant new business model, it only works because people know Tim Schaefer from the various other games he's made through the traditional system. It's like when people said "In Rainbows proves that bands don't need record companies." Well yeah, if they're Radiohead already.
Here's an interview with Tim Schafer that talks about that a bit. Apparently the budgets just for their smaller DLC games (Stacking and Costume Quest) were still in the $2 million range, and the amount of cash needed for a Psychonauts 2 is ten times that.
Also, Brutal Legend was great even though the controls were weird during the RTS stuff and it was too short.
Edit: I can't spell!
Publishers will always be needed, you're right. 1.6 million is nowhere near the finish line, that's the 72 hour mark of a month-long endeavor. I'd expect it to hit at least 5 million before all is said and done. It's a $20 game, sales of 250,000 is not at all unreasonable. And a 4-5 million dollar budget is fairly high for an adventure game.
The important thing isn't that it's a "new business model," but that it allows people with a certain degree of creative clout to make games that would be outright rejected by publishers. The other aspect of it is that it allows you to set the minimum price while having people pay a wide range of premiums. There are going to be some fans that are willing to pay a thousand dollars for a Tim Schafer game and say, a miniature statue of Schafer's balls. Sure, 99% of your donators are going to be in the standard edition packages, but this at least allows you to reach those guys who place a huge value on a special connection with the creator.
That's more EA's fault than DoubleFine's.
Personally I liked the game a lot despite some gameplay issues. As someone who went in *knowing* there were RTS elements, I was kind of disappointed that they weren't more robust actually. The whole RTS part of it felt a little clunky - at least in singleplayer. I heard multiplayer was decent but I never tried it.
Basically, if you ignore the gameplay it was a pretty awesome game
Having recently read his original criticism, I get the impression that he actually did kind of like it. He was just wigging out about whether or not it was an RTS, not unlike how he "hated" Left 4 Dead because he felt there wasn't enough content at launch. I expect his hate for Brutal Legend has been artificially enhanced to facilitate that punchline.
And yes, all the love for the setting and the suits.
Yes, although if you find where the 1 and 3 panels are cropped from the 2 panel, it appears Gabe and Tycho are floating several meters off the ground. And have possibly grown in size.
EDIT: And by time-waster, I mean the stupid RTS crap. Game was fine until that came into play.
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What I got out of it was that he thought the game was ok for what it was, which was an RTS. Where things got bad was when Shaefer made a long winded post on uh...kotaku? where he explicitly said the game wasn't an RTS and if you thought so you were playing it wrong. Which, apparently Tycho though was a blatant lie and also insulting to gamers who can call a duck, a duck.
And thus: drama.
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That's a retroactive link at best. Besides, I wasn't implying I needed a reason beyond awesome meta-gag.
Without the RTS part, it was mediocre at best.
Indeed.
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Can't really play that in the car though so travel Blokus for 2 works very well. The quick and portable game that really has seen all the play time in the house, even with grandparents who just pop over for a visit, is the card based game, "For Sale", which for 4-6 players is a real blast.
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You know what, just fuck it. Nevermind
Stupid strip.
It made up for the parasites and rampant cocaine usage.