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  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
  • TubularLuggageTubularLuggage Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    CNN has 6% in, with Santorum ahead by roughly 2%.

    According to NYT, 'Uncommitted' has more votes than the current gap between Santorum and Romney.

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  • Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    I hope the bloodletting continues. An early Santorum withdrawl will deny me the pleasure of voting for him in my state's open primary.

    I would vote Democrat in the primary, but this is Alabama, we're lucky to have a Democrat on the ballot at all, let alone multiple ones to pick from.

    -edit-

    Also, curious if anyone else lives in a place where the newspaper publishes the names of every registered voter who failed to vote on election day?

    Because my local newspaper does that. And it's awesome.

    What CD are you in? Vote me for delegate in CD4!

    I'm in district 2, Lauderdale Co.

    Do you seriously live one county over from me?

  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
  • DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    I hope the bloodletting continues. An early Santorum withdrawl will deny me the pleasure of voting for him in my state's open primary.

    I would vote Democrat in the primary, but this is Alabama, we're lucky to have a Democrat on the ballot at all, let alone multiple ones to pick from.

    -edit-

    Also, curious if anyone else lives in a place where the newspaper publishes the names of every registered voter who failed to vote on election day?

    Because my local newspaper does that. And it's awesome.

    What CD are you in? Vote me for delegate in CD4!

    I'm in district 2, Lauderdale Co.

    Do you seriously live one county over from me?

    Sounds like a beer!

    HuffPo is 5% in, Santorum at 40.4, Romney at 38.5. C'mon frothy!

    DoctorArch on
  • GnomeTankGnomeTank Registered User regular
    Part of me wants Santorum to win, because I am pretty sure he'll get absolutely eviscerated in a general election. That said, I don't want Santorum to win, because once your the nominee, there is always that off chance you could actually become president, and the man actually frightens me on a lot of levels.

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  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    I want Santorum to win tonight so that we are closer to a brokered convention for the pubs, thus eliminating ANY fire they might kindle in their base.

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    MSNBC tallies:

    Santorum 40% Paul 11% Romney 39% Gingrich 7%

    Harry Dresden on
  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    Ah, Ron Paul... comparing economies the size of nations to personal spending, and how we should cut back spending and pay off our debt, ignoring that the macro equivalent of "turning off premium cable" means that roads go to shit or hundreds of thousands die in abject poverty.

    I fucking HATE that part of his screed.

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  • enc0reenc0re Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    I'm a little mad that out of all the not-Romneys, it's Santorum that rises to the top. I'd rather see Herman Cain as President.

    Better than Bachmann, I guess.

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  • MillMill Registered User regular
    syndalis wrote: »
    I want Santorum to win tonight so that we are closer to a brokered convention for the pubs, thus eliminating ANY fire they might kindle in their base.

    This, I'd be content if we could keep the teaper and the "Wah, I'm rich and I'm being hurt by the current tax rate" elements far, far away from having a noticeable impact on policy. I'd like to move forward and I'm pretty sure the idiots in those elements will burn everything down and then fight tooth and nail to keep that way.

    It looks like this is going to come down to the wire, since the difference between the two hovers between .5% and slightly over 2% from the current reporting.

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  • TubularLuggageTubularLuggage Registered User regular
    CNN is at 14% reporting;

    Santorum leads Romney by just shy of 1500 votes.
    Santorum 40, Romney 39, Paul 11, Gingrich 7

    NYT has 'uncommitted' hovering around 2%.

  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    syndalis wrote: »
    Ah, Ron Paul... comparing economies the size of nations to personal spending, and how we should cut back spending and pay off our debt, ignoring that the macro equivalent of "turning off premium cable" means that roads go to shit or hundreds of thousands die in abject poverty.

    I fucking HATE that part of his screed.

    Really?

    I'd think his conception of the free market as this super-special magical force in reality would be the most infuriating position.

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    Mill wrote:
    This, I'd be content if we could keep the teaper and the "Wah, I'm rich and I'm being hurt by the current tax rate" elements far, far away from having a noticeable impact on policy. I'd like to move forward and I'm pretty sure the idiots in those elements will burn everything down and then fight tooth and nail to keep that way.

    It looks like this is going to come down to the wire, since the difference between the two hovers between .5% and slightly over 2% from the current reporting.

    Let's be fair. They're all terrible, just in different ways.

    Harry Dresden on
  • DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    While I agree with GnomeTank overall, I want Santorum to win because Mittens has never had to work this hard for anything in his life. I only want Mittens to win the primary after going 10 rounds and beating Santorum on points, only to face a well-rested Obama for the championship.

  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    It just narrowed to spitting distance on CNN.

    We should see a huge amount in Romney's favor with the rich parts around Detroit.
    Mr. Santorum has a large lead so far in Ottawa County ( View on Map). With about a quarter of precincts reporting, he is leading Mr. Romney 53 percent to 31 percent.

    It's a substantial margin, but Ottawa County is among the most conservative in Michigan, and Mr. Santorum needs margins of about this size to counterbalance Mr. Romney in the more populous, affluent and Romney-friendly suburbs to the north of Detroit.

  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    Speak of the devil. Romney up.

  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    MSNBC just called Arizona for Romney. Shock and surprise.

  • MillMill Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    syndalis wrote: »
    I want Santorum to win tonight so that we are closer to a brokered convention for the pubs, thus eliminating ANY fire they might kindle in their base.

    This, I'd be content if we could keep the teaper and the "Wah, I'm rich and I'm being hurt by the current tax rate" elements far, far away from having a noticeable impact on policy. I'd like to move forward and I'm pretty sure the idiots in those elements will burn everything down and then fight tooth and nail to keep that way.

    It looks like this is going to come down to the wire, since the difference between the two hovers between .5% and slightly over 2% from the current reporting.

    Let's be fair. They're all terrible, just in different ways. [/quote]

    Exactly, all the more reason to pray for an outcome where they decide to not vote.

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  • TubularLuggageTubularLuggage Registered User regular
    CNN has already called Arizona for Romney. No real surprise there.

  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    "Arizona is a big state for Romney to win."

    Uh...not really, Ed.

  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    19%: Romney just pulled ahead in Michigan.

  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    Is Michigan "winner take all?"

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  • Brian KrakowBrian Krakow Registered User regular
    syndalis wrote: »
    Is Michigan "winner take all?"

    No.

  • KalTorakKalTorak Way up inside your butthole, Morty. WAAAAY up inside there.Registered User regular
    _J_ wrote: »
    "Arizona is a big state for Romney to win."

    Uh...not really, Ed.

    I guess... geographically, it's on the large side.

  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2012
    syndalis wrote: »
    Is Michigan "winner take all?"

    Nope. There's a good article on Huffingtonpost explaining how it works, and how the winner of Michigan doesn't actually matter, except in terms of perception.

    Edit: Here's the article

    Edit edit:
    Here's where we have to refer to what Michigan decided to do after getting penalized by the RNC for moving their primary. As Josh Putnam explains, Michigan typically has 59 delegates to award, and the usual way they are awarded is that the winner of each of Michigan's 14 Congressional Districts (CD) gets 3 delegates, there are 14 at-large delegates that are eligible to be claimed by anyone who receives at least 15 percent of the statewide vote, and there are three "automatic delegates" who are "free to choose whomever." After the penalty however, Michigan decided to get rid of the automatic delegates, slash the at-larges down to two, and give each CD 2 delegates. That means the bigger share of the prize is spread throughout the state.

    And I say that the statewide winner may receive two delegates because according to the rules, the at-larges are assigned proportionally to everyone who manages to pull 15 percent of the statewide vote.

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    syndalis wrote: »
    Is Michigan "winner take all?"

    Nope. Two delegates are awarded to the one with the most votes. Two are awarded for each congressional district won.

    Arizona is winner take all.

    Couscous on
  • enc0reenc0re Registered User regular
    Wow, I was really worried there for a second. But it looks like Romney is pulling ahead now.

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    _J_ wrote: »
    syndalis wrote: »
    Ah, Ron Paul... comparing economies the size of nations to personal spending, and how we should cut back spending and pay off our debt, ignoring that the macro equivalent of "turning off premium cable" means that roads go to shit or hundreds of thousands die in abject poverty.

    I fucking HATE that part of his screed.

    Really?

    I'd think his conception of the free market as this super-special magical force in reality would be the most infuriating position.

    I don't hate any specific idea Paul has, they're all rage inducing. He's just a terrible person in general.

  • MillMill Registered User regular
    I want to see by how much of a margin Romney wins Arizona. I have feeling that if it isn't large, that's going to put chinks in his inevitability because with McCain's backing, the Mormon population and being the front runner, that shouldn't be a close race.

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  • ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    syndalis wrote: »
    Ah, Ron Paul... comparing economies the size of nations to personal spending, and how we should cut back spending and pay off our debt, ignoring that the macro equivalent of "turning off premium cable" means that roads go to shit or hundreds of thousands die in abject poverty.

    I fucking HATE that part of his screed.

    This reminds me of some blog post that made the rounds of my friends that explained why we shouldn't tax the rich with some metaphor about ten guys drinking beer, and how it was unfair for the one with the most money to buy everyone's beer.

    Needless to say, it was reductionist to the point of absurdity.

  • SammyFSammyF Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    Quick perusal of some of the precincts which have reported out of Oakland County leads me to think Romney is probably going to outperform his 2008 margin from that county.

    No precincts I'd consider bellwethers in yet, though.

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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank Registered User regular
    The thing about Ron Paul is that I actually don't think he's a terrible person (vis a vis Ricky boy, who is a terrible person), he's just really wrong a lot of the time. I don't agree with a damn thing he says, but I honestly believe he cares. I don't believe that about any of the other candidates, who I feel are in it purely to push an agenda, some more scary than others.

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  • DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    Arch wrote: »
    syndalis wrote: »
    Ah, Ron Paul... comparing economies the size of nations to personal spending, and how we should cut back spending and pay off our debt, ignoring that the macro equivalent of "turning off premium cable" means that roads go to shit or hundreds of thousands die in abject poverty.

    I fucking HATE that part of his screed.

    This reminds me of some blog post that made the rounds of my friends that explained why we shouldn't tax the rich with some metaphor about ten guys drinking beer, and how it was unfair for the one with the most money to buy everyone's beer.

    Needless to say, it was reductionist to the point of absurdity.

    I've always hated that analogy but I've never found an equally absurd and simple counter argument to burn them.

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    MSNBC thinks Michigan is to close to call, unofficially Santorum won? :mrgreen:

  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Michigan at 24%: Romney ahead by about 8,000.

  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    Ottawa County went Santorum?!?!?

    Yessssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Looking like a bad night for Rmoney.

  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    Doodmann wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    syndalis wrote: »
    Ah, Ron Paul... comparing economies the size of nations to personal spending, and how we should cut back spending and pay off our debt, ignoring that the macro equivalent of "turning off premium cable" means that roads go to shit or hundreds of thousands die in abject poverty.

    I fucking HATE that part of his screed.

    This reminds me of some blog post that made the rounds of my friends that explained why we shouldn't tax the rich with some metaphor about ten guys drinking beer, and how it was unfair for the one with the most money to buy everyone's beer.

    Needless to say, it was reductionist to the point of absurdity.

    I've always hated that analogy but I've never found an equally absurd and simple counter argument to burn them.
    Because ensuring people don't starve and making sure the government can provide basic services are exactly like buying beer.

    Couscous on
  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    The thing about Ron Paul is that I actually don't think he's a terrible person (vis a vis Ricky boy, who is a terrible person), he's just really wrong a lot of the time. I don't agree with a damn thing he says, but I honestly believe he cares. I don't believe that about any of the other candidates, who I feel are in it purely to push an agenda, some more scary than others.

    Being slightly better than Santorum still makes him a bad person IMO. The fact he's so clueless rather than openly hostile doesn't earn him any slack from me.

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  • TaramoorTaramoor Registered User regular
    Grand Rapids area goes Santorum. Suburban areas going Romney. Not much surprising so far except for the size of the turnout.

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