It's kinda too bad that the BG1 villain is totally overshadowed by the greatness that is Jon Irenicus, because he's actually a fairly interesting character. He's like an evil rags-to-riches story!
He had a Darth Vader thing going on too, and as a young dude, I could really appreciate that.
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BroloBroseidonLord of the BroceanRegistered Userregular
Sarevok gets much more interesting when you run into him later on.
I mean as I recall while he ends up seizing influence through the power of Being Evil, he pretty much starts out his journey as just some random schmuck who pulls himself up by his own evil bootstraps. And plus he's not successful because of his mighty warrior-ness, his plots are all based around him actually being a smart, cunning guy,
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
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KalTorakOne way or another, they all end up inthe Undercity.Registered Userregular
Am I misremembering, or
isn't Sarevok a Bhaalspawn? I'd think he'd get a bit of a boost from that.
isn't Sarevok a Bhaalspawn? I'd think he'd get a bit of a boost from that.
he is
but that's only barely alluded to in the first game, and your bhaalspawn powers manifest pretty weakly
assuming that Sarevok is of a comparable character level to the main character when you beat the game, I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that his bhaalpowers weren't much more developed than yours
isn't Sarevok a Bhaalspawn? I'd think he'd get a bit of a boost from that.
he is
but that's only barely alluded to in the first game, and your bhaalspawn powers manifest pretty weakly
assuming that Sarevok is of a comparable character level to the main character when you beat the game, I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that his bhaalpowers weren't much more developed than yours
also didn't Iranicus play a big part in bringing out your Baal powers?
isn't Sarevok a Bhaalspawn? I'd think he'd get a bit of a boost from that.
he is
but that's only barely alluded to in the first game, and your bhaalspawn powers manifest pretty weakly
assuming that Sarevok is of a comparable character level to the main character when you beat the game, I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that his bhaalpowers weren't much more developed than yours
also didn't Iranicus play a big part in bringing out your Baal powers?
sort of
things get pretty nebulous once you start talking about removing the soul from someone who's the half-divine offspring of the lord of murder
That's why I didn't want to hit Chapter Two so early. I'm playing on easy mode and the local Necromancer is still wiping the floor with my party. D&D leveling is always slow, but having played so many modern RPGs I had forgotten just HOW slow.
Still, with my trusted basic, unenchanted iron longsword at my side, this Kensai can go up against- SNAP.
DAMMIT IRON CURSSSSSSSSE.
On the plus side, you can get Varscona pretty early in Nashkel!
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Shortytouching the meatIntergalactic Cool CourtRegistered Userregular
assuming that Sarevok is of a comparable character level to the main character when you beat the game, I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that his bhaalpowers weren't much more developed than yours
That's why I didn't want to hit Chapter Two so early. I'm playing on easy mode and the local Necromancer is still wiping the floor with my party. D&D leveling is always slow, but having played so many modern RPGs I had forgotten just HOW slow.
Still, with my trusted basic, unenchanted iron longsword at my side, this Kensai can go up against- SNAP.
DAMMIT IRON CURSSSSSSSSE.
On the plus side, you can get Varscona pretty early in Nashkel!
fuck yeah, varscona
best longsword in the game less than two hours after starting a new character?
isn't Sarevok a Bhaalspawn? I'd think he'd get a bit of a boost from that.
he is
but that's only barely alluded to in the first game, and your bhaalspawn powers manifest pretty weakly
assuming that Sarevok is of a comparable character level to the main character when you beat the game, I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that his bhaalpowers weren't much more developed than yours
also didn't Iranicus play a big part in bringing out your Baal powers?
sort of
things get pretty nebulous once you start talking about removing the soul from someone who's the half-divine offspring of the lord of murder
On the subject of Bhaalspawn
On wiki's list of Bhaalspawn it says Abazigal is a "half-dragon" Bhaalspawn, with a half-dragon son Draconis. I assume the other half a Abazigal was god (Bhaal). So to have a half-dragon son (rather than a 3/4 dragon or 1/4 dragon), wouldn't Abazigal have to find another half-dragon to bang?
half-dragon. Half-<insert race here> have never historically in D&D only referred to people with parents of two different races, but of people with enough racial mixing in their blood to not be exactly one or the other.
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BroloBroseidonLord of the BroceanRegistered Userregular
isn't Sarevok a Bhaalspawn? I'd think he'd get a bit of a boost from that.
he is
but that's only barely alluded to in the first game, and your bhaalspawn powers manifest pretty weakly
assuming that Sarevok is of a comparable character level to the main character when you beat the game, I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that his bhaalpowers weren't much more developed than yours
also didn't Iranicus play a big part in bringing out your Baal powers?
sort of
things get pretty nebulous once you start talking about removing the soul from someone who's the half-divine offspring of the lord of murder
On the subject of Bhaalspawn
On wiki's list of Bhaalspawn it says Abazigal is a "half-dragon" Bhaalspawn, with a half-dragon son Draconis. I assume the other half a Abazigal was god (Bhaal). So to have a half-dragon son (rather than a 3/4 dragon or 1/4 dragon), wouldn't Abazigal have to find another half-dragon to bang?
just as a point of order, divinity is a separate template; that is to say, when Bhaal boned a dragon, he was in some humanoid form (probably human) and the divine template sits on top of whatever comes out. if he had slept with a human, as in the case of Sarevok, the resulting child wouldn't be a half-human.
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KalTorakOne way or another, they all end up inthe Undercity.Registered Userregular
Theodore Flooseveltproud parent of eight beautiful girls and shalmelodorne (which is currently being ruled by a woman (awesome role model for my daughters)) #dornedadRegistered Userregular
It's my first time getting further than Nashkel. Everything from here on in is uncharted territory.
Misc just left my party for some bimbo. Uncool, bro. Uncool.
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Theodore Flooseveltproud parent of eight beautiful girls and shalmelodorne (which is currently being ruled by a woman (awesome role model for my daughters)) #dornedadRegistered Userregular
Question: weapon styles only work when you're actively using that combination of weapons, right? Because that's how I remember it from AD&D but there are some seriously wonky proficiency combinations in this game. Like Kivan, who has two points in Halberds, a two-handed weapon, and two points in two-weapon fighting. Way to gimp yourself, Kivan!
I kind of want to give him one-weapon fighting for the AC and crit bonus, but I don't think that would apply when I'm using either a bow or a halberd. In fact, do any of these apply when using ranged weapons?
Unrelated digression, I just ran into two characters named Lord Foreshadow and Bub Snikt. Pure gold.
I dropped them as soon as I could. They're the only evil characters in my otherwise goody-two shoes party, so it'd just create conflicts, plus, Imoen is my go-to thief and I'm a magic-user, so they're kind of superfluous.
the only reason I ever take them is to fill up the party until better people come along
then its laters losers
especially since they are evil and being evil in BG is sooooo boooooring
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BhowSunny day, sweeping the clouds away.On my way to where the air is sweet.Registered Userregular
Welp, just had my ass handed to me by a secret cabal of wizards in the Bridge district (BGII). Are these geese part of a quest, or are they just lurking for investigative adventurers carrying a rogue stone, to remind non-magic users not to get uppity? Minsc was horrified, Korgan petrified and Edwin was eaten by a pit fiend, with Viconia, Yoshi & Charname quickly succumbing.
they're members of some secret organization or other, but they're not part of any quest unless you count the quest to murder them and take their stuff
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Theodore Flooseveltproud parent of eight beautiful girls and shalmelodorne (which is currently being ruled by a woman (awesome role model for my daughters)) #dornedadRegistered Userregular
Question: weapon styles only work when you're actively using that combination of weapons, right? Because that's how I remember it from AD&D but there are some seriously wonky proficiency combinations in this game. Like Kivan, who has two points in Halberds, a two-handed weapon, and two points in two-weapon fighting. Way to gimp yourself, Kivan!
I kind of want to give him one-weapon fighting for the AC and crit bonus, but I don't think that would apply when I'm using either a bow or a halberd. In fact, do any of these apply when using ranged weapons?
Unrelated digression, I just ran into two characters named Lord Foreshadow and Bub Snikt. Pure gold.
Yeah, Kivan is only specc'd like that because of the automatic two-weapon points for being a ranger
and I guess halberds are cool
but no, I'm fairly certain that no weapon bonuses apply while using ranged weapons.
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BhowSunny day, sweeping the clouds away.On my way to where the air is sweet.Registered Userregular
Hmmm...
They probably do have nice stuff, eh? Maybe I'll collect another mage, buff up and pay them another visit, now that I know what I'm in for.
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He had a Darth Vader thing going on too, and as a young dude, I could really appreciate that.
but that's only barely alluded to in the first game, and your bhaalspawn powers manifest pretty weakly
assuming that Sarevok is of a comparable character level to the main character when you beat the game, I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that his bhaalpowers weren't much more developed than yours
things get pretty nebulous once you start talking about removing the soul from someone who's the half-divine offspring of the lord of murder
On the plus side, you can get Varscona pretty early in Nashkel!
fair enough
Ain't that a kick in the bhaals for him.
:winky:
fuck yeah, varscona
best longsword in the game less than two hours after starting a new character?
yes, sword
I will be your huckleberry
On the subject of Bhaalspawn
motherfuckin' miracles, man
I feel like... I can finally rest...
hahahaa
I tried to force attack him but it didn't work
That was some time invested, I tell you.
Also, the iOS version of this seems pretty slick!
Is this your first time playing, Legba?
It is warming my heart to think of someone enjoying Baldur's Gate for the first time
Girl's his witch, dogg
dude's got a responsibility to his witch
Also: Vampire wolf! How does that even work.
If you get bitten by one, you get vampire powers, but only at the full moon. Can only be killed by a pointy silver cross.
I kind of want to give him one-weapon fighting for the AC and crit bonus, but I don't think that would apply when I'm using either a bow or a halberd. In fact, do any of these apply when using ranged weapons?
Unrelated digression, I just ran into two characters named Lord Foreshadow and Bub Snikt. Pure gold.
I'm playing a good monk so I figured they wouldn't stay long anyway
the only reason I ever take them is to fill up the party until better people come along
then its laters losers
especially since they are evil and being evil in BG is sooooo boooooring
Yeah, Kivan is only specc'd like that because of the automatic two-weapon points for being a ranger
and I guess halberds are cool
but no, I'm fairly certain that no weapon bonuses apply while using ranged weapons.
They probably do have nice stuff, eh? Maybe I'll collect another mage, buff up and pay them another visit, now that I know what I'm in for.