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    Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Proud Father House GardenerRegistered User regular
    Kana wrote: »
    It's kinda too bad that the BG1 villain is totally overshadowed by the greatness that is Jon Irenicus, because he's actually a fairly interesting character. He's like an evil rags-to-riches story!

    He had a Darth Vader thing going on too, and as a young dude, I could really appreciate that.

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Sarevok gets much more interesting when you run into him later on.

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    KanaKana Registered User regular
    I mean as I recall while he ends up seizing influence through the power of Being Evil, he pretty much starts out his journey as just some random schmuck who pulls himself up by his own evil bootstraps. And plus he's not successful because of his mighty warrior-ness, his plots are all based around him actually being a smart, cunning guy,

    A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    Am I misremembering, or
    isn't Sarevok a Bhaalspawn? I'd think he'd get a bit of a boost from that.

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Am I misremembering, or
    isn't Sarevok a Bhaalspawn? I'd think he'd get a bit of a boost from that.
    he is

    but that's only barely alluded to in the first game, and your bhaalspawn powers manifest pretty weakly

    assuming that Sarevok is of a comparable character level to the main character when you beat the game, I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that his bhaalpowers weren't much more developed than yours

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    JarsJars Registered User regular
    no, he knew for quite a while. serevok is a level 16 fighter in BG1.

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    TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    Shorty wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Am I misremembering, or
    isn't Sarevok a Bhaalspawn? I'd think he'd get a bit of a boost from that.
    he is

    but that's only barely alluded to in the first game, and your bhaalspawn powers manifest pretty weakly

    assuming that Sarevok is of a comparable character level to the main character when you beat the game, I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that his bhaalpowers weren't much more developed than yours
    also didn't Iranicus play a big part in bringing out your Baal powers?

    bnet: TheStig#1787 Steam: TheStig
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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    TheStig wrote: »
    Shorty wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Am I misremembering, or
    isn't Sarevok a Bhaalspawn? I'd think he'd get a bit of a boost from that.
    he is

    but that's only barely alluded to in the first game, and your bhaalspawn powers manifest pretty weakly

    assuming that Sarevok is of a comparable character level to the main character when you beat the game, I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that his bhaalpowers weren't much more developed than yours
    also didn't Iranicus play a big part in bringing out your Baal powers?
    sort of

    things get pretty nebulous once you start talking about removing the soul from someone who's the half-divine offspring of the lord of murder

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    SoundsPlushSoundsPlush yup, back. Registered User regular
    Enc wrote: »
    That's why I didn't want to hit Chapter Two so early. I'm playing on easy mode and the local Necromancer is still wiping the floor with my party. D&D leveling is always slow, but having played so many modern RPGs I had forgotten just HOW slow.

    Still, with my trusted basic, unenchanted iron longsword at my side, this Kensai can go up against- SNAP.

    DAMMIT IRON CURSSSSSSSSE.

    On the plus side, you can get Varscona pretty early in Nashkel!

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    Jars wrote: »
    no, he knew for quite a while. serevok is a level 16 fighter in BG1.

    fair enough

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    Binary SquidBinary Squid We all make choices Registered User regular
    Shorty wrote: »
    assuming that Sarevok is of a comparable character level to the main character when you beat the game, I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that his bhaalpowers weren't much more developed than yours

    Ain't that a kick in the bhaals for him.
    TheStig wrote: »
    also didn't Iranicus play a big part in bringing out your Baal powers?

    :winky:

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    Enc wrote: »
    That's why I didn't want to hit Chapter Two so early. I'm playing on easy mode and the local Necromancer is still wiping the floor with my party. D&D leveling is always slow, but having played so many modern RPGs I had forgotten just HOW slow.

    Still, with my trusted basic, unenchanted iron longsword at my side, this Kensai can go up against- SNAP.

    DAMMIT IRON CURSSSSSSSSE.

    On the plus side, you can get Varscona pretty early in Nashkel!

    fuck yeah, varscona

    best longsword in the game less than two hours after starting a new character?

    yes, sword

    I will be your huckleberry

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    Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Proud Father House GardenerRegistered User regular
    Anyone know if there a way to check the health of one's familiar? They heal up right?

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    Shorty wrote: »
    TheStig wrote: »
    Shorty wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Am I misremembering, or
    isn't Sarevok a Bhaalspawn? I'd think he'd get a bit of a boost from that.
    he is

    but that's only barely alluded to in the first game, and your bhaalspawn powers manifest pretty weakly

    assuming that Sarevok is of a comparable character level to the main character when you beat the game, I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that his bhaalpowers weren't much more developed than yours
    also didn't Iranicus play a big part in bringing out your Baal powers?
    sort of

    things get pretty nebulous once you start talking about removing the soul from someone who's the half-divine offspring of the lord of murder

    On the subject of Bhaalspawn
    On wiki's list of Bhaalspawn it says Abazigal is a "half-dragon" Bhaalspawn, with a half-dragon son Draconis. I assume the other half a Abazigal was god (Bhaal). So to have a half-dragon son (rather than a 3/4 dragon or 1/4 dragon), wouldn't Abazigal have to find another half-dragon to bang?

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    Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    I think you're looking too literally at the term
    half-dragon. Half-<insert race here> have never historically in D&D only referred to people with parents of two different races, but of people with enough racial mixing in their blood to not be exactly one or the other.

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    what you need to remember is that there are

    motherfuckin' miracles, man

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Shorty wrote: »
    TheStig wrote: »
    Shorty wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Am I misremembering, or
    isn't Sarevok a Bhaalspawn? I'd think he'd get a bit of a boost from that.
    he is

    but that's only barely alluded to in the first game, and your bhaalspawn powers manifest pretty weakly

    assuming that Sarevok is of a comparable character level to the main character when you beat the game, I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that his bhaalpowers weren't much more developed than yours
    also didn't Iranicus play a big part in bringing out your Baal powers?
    sort of

    things get pretty nebulous once you start talking about removing the soul from someone who's the half-divine offspring of the lord of murder

    On the subject of Bhaalspawn
    On wiki's list of Bhaalspawn it says Abazigal is a "half-dragon" Bhaalspawn, with a half-dragon son Draconis. I assume the other half a Abazigal was god (Bhaal). So to have a half-dragon son (rather than a 3/4 dragon or 1/4 dragon), wouldn't Abazigal have to find another half-dragon to bang?
    just as a point of order, divinity is a separate template; that is to say, when Bhaal boned a dragon, he was in some humanoid form (probably human) and the divine template sits on top of whatever comes out. if he had slept with a human, as in the case of Sarevok, the resulting child wouldn't be a half-human.

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    you D&Ders and your rules

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    Binary SquidBinary Squid We all make choices Registered User regular
    So, for those of you keeping score, the issue of dragon/murdergod boning has been resolved.

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    So, for those of you keeping score, the issue of dragon/murdergod boning has been resolved.

    I feel like... I can finally rest...

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    i dunno, i might need pictures. diagrams.

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    Binary SquidBinary Squid We all make choices Registered User regular
    I don't have any diagrams or pictures but,
    I have that dvd

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    TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    edited December 2012
    I remember way back when I played BG1, I couldn't believe I fell for
    Koveras

    TrippyJing on
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    BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    early game BG1 is fucking hard. I forgot that a stiff breeze can murder my party

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    TrippyJing wrote: »
    I remember way back when I played BG1, I couldn't believe I fell for
    Koveras

    hahahaa

    I tried to force attack him but it didn't work

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    MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    I'm still kinda heartbroken that I lost my save of my BG1 dude that had made it all the way past the Underdark in BG2.

    That was some time invested, I tell you.

    Also, the iOS version of this seems pretty slick!

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    LegbaLegba He did. Registered User regular
    I got past the mines! Branwen is great.

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    Theodore FlooseveltTheodore Floosevelt proud parent of eight beautiful girls and shalmelo dorne (which is currently being ruled by a woman (awesome role model for my daughters)) #dornedadRegistered User regular
    Legba wrote: »
    I got past the mines! Branwen is great.

    Is this your first time playing, Legba?

    It is warming my heart to think of someone enjoying Baldur's Gate for the first time

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    LegbaLegba He did. Registered User regular
    It's my first time getting further than Nashkel. Everything from here on in is uncharted territory.
    Misc just left my party for some bimbo. Uncool, bro. Uncool.

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    Theodore FlooseveltTheodore Floosevelt proud parent of eight beautiful girls and shalmelo dorne (which is currently being ruled by a woman (awesome role model for my daughters)) #dornedadRegistered User regular
    Legba wrote: »
    It's my first time getting further than Nashkel. Everything from here on in is uncharted territory.
    Misc just left my party for some bimbo. Uncool, bro. Uncool.

    Girl's his witch, dogg

    dude's got a responsibility to his witch

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    LegbaLegba He did. Registered User regular
    edited December 2012
    What magic can she give him that I can't provide, huh? But he kicked me to the curb. Stone cold.

    Also: Vampire wolf! How does that even work.

    Legba on
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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    Legba wrote: »
    What magic can she give him that I can't provide, huh? But he kicked me to the curb. Stone cold.

    Also: Vampire wolf! How does that even work.

    If you get bitten by one, you get vampire powers, but only at the full moon. Can only be killed by a pointy silver cross.

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    LegbaLegba He did. Registered User regular
    Question: weapon styles only work when you're actively using that combination of weapons, right? Because that's how I remember it from AD&D but there are some seriously wonky proficiency combinations in this game. Like Kivan, who has two points in Halberds, a two-handed weapon, and two points in two-weapon fighting. Way to gimp yourself, Kivan!

    I kind of want to give him one-weapon fighting for the AC and crit bonus, but I don't think that would apply when I'm using either a bow or a halberd. In fact, do any of these apply when using ranged weapons?

    Unrelated digression, I just ran into two characters named Lord Foreshadow and Bub Snikt. Pure gold.

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    I gave up xar and montawhoever because I needed room for the wild mage, was that an ok decision?

    I'm playing a good monk so I figured they wouldn't stay long anyway

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    LegbaLegba He did. Registered User regular
    I dropped them as soon as I could. They're the only evil characters in my otherwise goody-two shoes party, so it'd just create conflicts, plus, Imoen is my go-to thief and I'm a magic-user, so they're kind of superfluous.

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Xar and monty aren't that good anyway

    the only reason I ever take them is to fill up the party until better people come along

    then its laters losers

    especially since they are evil and being evil in BG is sooooo boooooring

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    BhowBhow Sunny day, sweeping the clouds away. On my way to where the air is sweet.Registered User regular
    Welp, just had my ass handed to me by a secret cabal of wizards in the Bridge district (BGII). Are these geese part of a quest, or are they just lurking for investigative adventurers carrying a rogue stone, to remind non-magic users not to get uppity? Minsc was horrified, Korgan petrified and Edwin was eaten by a pit fiend, with Viconia, Yoshi & Charname quickly succumbing.

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    ArangArang HUEY LEWISRegistered User regular
    they're members of some secret organization or other, but they're not part of any quest unless you count the quest to murder them and take their stuff

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    Theodore FlooseveltTheodore Floosevelt proud parent of eight beautiful girls and shalmelo dorne (which is currently being ruled by a woman (awesome role model for my daughters)) #dornedadRegistered User regular
    Legba wrote: »
    Question: weapon styles only work when you're actively using that combination of weapons, right? Because that's how I remember it from AD&D but there are some seriously wonky proficiency combinations in this game. Like Kivan, who has two points in Halberds, a two-handed weapon, and two points in two-weapon fighting. Way to gimp yourself, Kivan!

    I kind of want to give him one-weapon fighting for the AC and crit bonus, but I don't think that would apply when I'm using either a bow or a halberd. In fact, do any of these apply when using ranged weapons?

    Unrelated digression, I just ran into two characters named Lord Foreshadow and Bub Snikt. Pure gold.

    Yeah, Kivan is only specc'd like that because of the automatic two-weapon points for being a ranger

    and I guess halberds are cool

    but no, I'm fairly certain that no weapon bonuses apply while using ranged weapons.

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    BhowBhow Sunny day, sweeping the clouds away. On my way to where the air is sweet.Registered User regular
    Hmmm...

    They probably do have nice stuff, eh? Maybe I'll collect another mage, buff up and pay them another visit, now that I know what I'm in for.

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