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[Mass Effect] SPOILER ALL ME3 DISCUSSION. ALL OF IT. DON'T ARGUE ABOUT DLC

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    I was talking about space soldiers.

  • Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    I've asked this a few days ago but didn't get an answer, soo..

    I'll probably get the game on the 8th although the official release date in Europe is the 9th. Can I play it immediately or does it unlock at some point on the 9th?

    Add me on Switch: 7795-5541-4699
  • KlykaKlyka DO you have any SPARE BATTERIES?Registered User regular
  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    Maz- wrote: »
    I've asked this a few days ago but didn't get an answer, soo..

    I'll probably get the game on the 8th although the official release date in Europe is the 9th. Can I play it immediately or does it unlock at some point on the 9th?

    There's no authentication process. If you have the disc in your hand, you can play it as soon as you install.

    The multiplayer servers are global too. So they go online for all regions on US release day.

    You're good to go.

  • Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Maz- wrote: »
    I've asked this a few days ago but didn't get an answer, soo..

    I'll probably get the game on the 8th although the official release date in Europe is the 9th. Can I play it immediately or does it unlock at some point on the 9th?

    There's no authentication process. If you have the disc in your hand, you can play it as soon as you install.

    The multiplayer servers are global too. So they go online for all regions on US release day.

    You're good to go.

    Fantastic, thanks for the answer.

    Wouldn't have been able to play much on the 9th since I'm going to a birthday party at night, but Thursday..I think a 12 hour binge session is in order.

    Add me on Switch: 7795-5541-4699
  • SoundsPlushSoundsPlush yup, back. Registered User regular
    They said it requires one-time authentication with Origin for SP.

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  • Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    You lied to me, Scarab, YOU LIED TO ME! *shakes fist*

    Man, that sucks. Well, I could live with it being unlocked at 0.00 CET..or I'm gonna have to look into proxies.

    Maz- on
    Add me on Switch: 7795-5541-4699
  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    I don't know how the co-op is going to fit into the single player. But I'd imagine that you will probably want to play the single player first all the way
    They said it requires one-time authentication with Origin for SP.

    I checked the social forums. They said this is functioning worldwide after the 5th, regardless of region.

  • ShenShen Registered User regular
    Hey I can still get that Kingdoms of Alamur DLC right? Or has that offer expired? I have some time to kill tomorrow and I figure I want my Disc launcher.

    Did it last night, you should be fine.

    3DS: 2234-8122-8398 | Battle.net (EU): Ladi#2485
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  • DecoyDecoy Registered User regular
    Shen wrote: »
    Hey I can still get that Kingdoms of Alamur DLC right? Or has that offer expired? I have some time to kill tomorrow and I figure I want my Disc launcher.

    Did it last night, you should be fine.

    I can confirm this as well. Turned out to be an ok demo (GG Curt Schilling). I might pick it up when it gets cheaper.

  • Technicus RexTechnicus Rex All your base.Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    evilthecat wrote: »
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Wait... why?

    Have we really reached the point where all people ever with muscles are considered frat boy brosephs by the nerd community?

    Protip: He's a fucking soldier. Soldiers are well built at the worst of times.

    oh but they arent.
    you should go look at the uk's minimum fitness requirements for service in the army.
    it's something like 44 push ups in 2 minutes amongst other things.

    That's a minimum entry requirement so they are not really soldiers at that point. 6 weeks of bootcamp can really change a person...

    Technicus Rex on
    People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazi's. You can't trust people. - Super Hans.
  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Alexandria, VARegistered User regular
    Grrr. Amazon says that I can download my preordered DD edition, but won't actually let me do it.

  • wiltingwilting I had fun once and it was awful Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    I still have no idea how dlc and things work in Origin. Kingdom of Alamur Demo tells me I have unlocked things. Where can I see these things? Will they appear on my ME3 Origin entry along with dlc after it is unlocked? Steam isn't great when it comes to DLC, I hope Origin is better,

    wilting on
  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    wilting wrote: »
    I still have no idea how dlc and things work in Origin. Kingdom of Alamur Demo tells me I have unlocked things. Where can I see these things? Will they appear on my ME3 Origin entry along with dlc after it is unlocked?

    http://social.bioware.com/user_entitlements.php

  • ShenShen Registered User regular
    It's tied to your EA account, which I guess isn't fully merged with Origin yet? Haven't found anywhere that displays that info.

    3DS: 2234-8122-8398 | Battle.net (EU): Ladi#2485
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  • Iron WeaselIron Weasel Dillon! You son of a bitch!Registered User regular
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    The Division, Warframe (XB1)
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  • wiltingwilting I had fun once and it was awful Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Ah so its still all on BSN. I would still like if it was displayed on Origin. LOL at the total of 15 things I have for Dragon Age II (5 things X 3 platforms), never played it.

    wilting on
  • OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    And even if he was a frat boy broseph, who popped his collars and wore spray tan. Even if that was the case, his character is a soldier. A soldier in the more dire and unwinnable war ever perceived by man. A volunteer. A highly capable warrior who is a member of the last, best chance for humanity; The Normandy.

    Does that not earn him respect? As a character? What more does he have to do before we judge books by their covers?

    Dismissing him as that kind of person because of his appearance, no matter whether he is or is not, is one step away from outright racism, gentlemen.

    If Ashley is Space Hitler, Kaiden is Carth, and Miranda is DAT ASS as well as always wrong, and Jacob is Asshole Abs...

    ...I think we can safely dismiss Vega as a frat boy broseph. Even if (especially if) he's only broseph in appearance.

  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    Orca wrote: »
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    And even if he was a frat boy broseph, who popped his collars and wore spray tan. Even if that was the case, his character is a soldier. A soldier in the more dire and unwinnable war ever perceived by man. A volunteer. A highly capable warrior who is a member of the last, best chance for humanity; The Normandy.

    Does that not earn him respect? As a character? What more does he have to do before we judge books by their covers?

    Dismissing him as that kind of person because of his appearance, no matter whether he is or is not, is one step away from outright racism, gentlemen.

    If Ashley is Space Hitler, Kaiden is Carth, and Miranda is DAT ASS as well as always wrong, and Jacob is Asshole Abs...

    ...I think we can safely dismiss Vega as a frat boy broseph. Even if (especially if) he's only broseph in appearance.

    But what if you think all those are stupid?

  • OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    Orca wrote: »
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    And even if he was a frat boy broseph, who popped his collars and wore spray tan. Even if that was the case, his character is a soldier. A soldier in the more dire and unwinnable war ever perceived by man. A volunteer. A highly capable warrior who is a member of the last, best chance for humanity; The Normandy.

    Does that not earn him respect? As a character? What more does he have to do before we judge books by their covers?

    Dismissing him as that kind of person because of his appearance, no matter whether he is or is not, is one step away from outright racism, gentlemen.

    If Ashley is Space Hitler, Kaiden is Carth, and Miranda is DAT ASS as well as always wrong, and Jacob is Asshole Abs...

    ...I think we can safely dismiss Vega as a frat boy broseph. Even if (especially if) he's only broseph in appearance.

    But what if you think all those are stupid?

    Then you're stupid.

    And worse than Ashley.

    Fact.

  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    ASHLEY VEGA IS SPACE HITLER DUDEBRO PRIME AND NOTHING YOU DO OR SAY CAN EVER CHANGE THAT

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  • OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
    jdarksun wrote: »
    I've been thinking about Reputation in ME3...

    As a side effect of moving to a non-flavored Reputation system, I can't help but wonder if something was lost. Will we no longer be rewarded for making a majority of Paragon or Renegade decisions? All checks being based on Reputation certainly implies that.

    That's kind of disappointing. Yeah, it encourages more "purple" Sheps, but it still feels like half the rewards from this system are gone.

    Come on. The second thing I do in a new ME2 game (directly after modding myself some minerals) is to set my paragon/renegade scores to max so I can do what I please without having to worry about missing an opportunity to either verbally hug someone or threaten to blow their quads off.

    This makes it so folks aren't mindlessly pounding the paragon/renegade options just to make sure they can convince Jack and Miranda to not rip each other's heads off. So what's bad about that?

  • Alucard6986Alucard6986 xbox: Ubeltanzer swtor: UbelRegistered User regular
    I'm sure the blue and red options are there to essentially initiate the most fun responses, be they badass or heroic.

    PSN: Ubeltanzer Blizzard: Ubel#1258
  • OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
    I'm sure the blue and red options are there to essentially initiate the most fun responses, be they badass or heroic.

    Most of the time, this is true. But make sure you experiment with the uncolored options, because sometimes they're even better.

    Especially in a certain hostage situation.

  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Alexandria, VARegistered User regular
    jdarksun wrote: »
    Grrr. Amazon says that I can download my preordered DD edition, but won't actually let me do it.
    Probably should just pop your key from Amazon into Origin and download from there. I've heard problems with Amazon game downloads being recognized by Origin and Steam.
    I was going to do that anyway, but it won't let me see the key either.

  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Alexandria, VARegistered User regular
    Right, so you're free to do so as a matter of personal preference rather than feeling forced to choose one extreme so as not to miss the big Paragon/Renegade checks.

  • wiltingwilting I had fun once and it was awful Registered User regular
    On my first non-meta gaming playthoughs I ended up mostly choosing paragon with a splash of renegade, just by what seem like the right thing to do in a given situation.

  • OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
    Right, so you're free to do so as a matter of personal preference rather than feeling forced to choose one extreme so as not to miss the big Paragon/Renegade checks.

    Exactly.

    This run I've been doing mixed Paragon/Renegade, but more Renegade than Paragon (usually the other way around for me). Most of it because, quite frankly, the Renegade dialog is frickin' bad-ass. But it's still fun to play the Lawyer on the Migrant Fleet instead of just screaming everybody down.

  • OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
    jdarksun wrote: »
    Right, so you're free to do so as a matter of personal preference rather than feeling forced to choose one extreme so as not to miss the big Paragon/Renegade checks.
    And subsequently, there's (potentially) no reward for doing so. Something lost, nothing gained.

    My complaints would go away if it turns out that there's something I get for being a Nice Guy or All Business.

    I guess it comes down to you liking the ability to min/max and me disliking the need to min/max if I want my options open.

    Different stro-

    -no.

    YOUR OPINIONS ARE BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD.

  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Alexandria, VARegistered User regular
    You haven't lost anything. You're still just as able to pass those dialog checks as you were. Is that diminished by the ability of people who didn't make your choices to pass those checks as well?

  • OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
    You haven't lost anything. You're still just as able to pass those dialog checks as you were. Is that diminished by the ability of people who didn't make your choices to pass those checks as well?

    If I'm understanding him correctly, it's that he likes feeling like he was rewarded for his actions, and unlocking different dialog options is that reward when it's tied to your paragade score. Make the award standard and it's no longer an award.

    I disagree, but I can see where he's coming from.

  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Yeah, the reward for going one way or the other is getting the story you wanted out of it. I successfully played a pretty neutral character in ME2 but to do so I needed to select the passive skill upgrade that offered the bigger boost, and benefited a lot from taking advantage of the Lorik Q'uin glitch in ME1. I've never really viewed going all-paragon or all-renegade as in any way ideal, particularly the latter. There are different flavors of paragon and renegade responses. I want to play a hard ass, but not a space hitler. Having high paragon/renegade requirements did, as Orca said, kind of push me toward dialogue options I didn't necessarily want just to ensure I was able to pass some checks I did. I'm in favor of reducing the metagaming in dialogue options, generally. I liked that DA2 made disapproval also a win condition, but I did feel like I had to play around the approval stats at times. God forbid you disapproved of slavery, but approved of magic around Fenris, for example.

    Elendil on
  • KainyKainy Pimpin' and righteous Registered User regular
    jdarksun wrote:
    Right, so you're free to do so as a matter of personal preference rather than feeling forced to choose one extreme so as not to miss the big Paragon/Renegade checks.
    And subsequently, there's (potentially) no reward for doing so. Something lost, nothing gained.

    My complaints would go away if it turns out that there's something I get for being a Nice Guy or All Business.

    The gain, here, is that there is no longer a punishment for being a Shepard who isn't defined 100% by "paragon" or "renegade"

    For instance, my mostly paragon Shep shoots the gas tank below that Krogan in Mordin's loyalty mission, because it's hilarious. Before, that would detract from my ability to charm people with my otherwise-righteousness. Now it doesn't.

    I'd say that letting you play your character how you want, rather than in one of two narrowly defined archetypes, is a pretty big gain.

    IcyLiquid wrote: »
    There's anti-fuckery code in there now :) Sorry :)
  • TTODewbackTTODewback Puts the drawl in ya'll I think I'm in HellRegistered User regular
    So with the Arrival finale..
    My paragon Shep used the renegade interrupt and just shot her in the face. Because fuck that shit. I don't care if your indoctrinated. You put me through so much bullshit I just want to put an end to it before I see Harbinger outside the window saying "OH HAI THAR"

    Bless your heart.
  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Alexandria, VARegistered User regular
    Kainy wrote: »
    jdarksun wrote:
    Right, so you're free to do so as a matter of personal preference rather than feeling forced to choose one extreme so as not to miss the big Paragon/Renegade checks.
    And subsequently, there's (potentially) no reward for doing so. Something lost, nothing gained.

    My complaints would go away if it turns out that there's something I get for being a Nice Guy or All Business.

    The gain, here, is that there is no longer a punishment for being a Shepard who isn't defined 100% by "paragon" or "renegade"

    For instance, my mostly paragon Shep shoots the gas tank below that Krogan in Mordin's loyalty mission, because it's hilarious. Before, that would detract from my ability to charm people with my otherwise-righteousness. Now it doesn't.

    I'd say that letting you play your character how you want, rather than in one of two narrowly defined archetypes, is a pretty big gain.
    Nitpick: there are a few interrupts which prevent you from gaining Paragon/Renegade points, but that isn't one of them. Your point stands, though.

  • InvisibleInvisible Registered User regular
    I went full paragon, but almost always chose the renegade interrupts because they're awesome and a lot of the ones used against enemies just made more sense.

  • BionicPenguinBionicPenguin Registered User regular
    Why does there need to be a reward at all? You're presumably playing the game because it's fun, not to unlock things.

  • OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
    jdarksun wrote: »
    Orca wrote: »
    You haven't lost anything. You're still just as able to pass those dialog checks as you were. Is that diminished by the ability of people who didn't make your choices to pass those checks as well?
    If I'm understanding him correctly, it's that he likes feeling like he was rewarded for his actions, and unlocking different dialog options is that reward when it's tied to your paragade score. Make the award standard and it's no longer an award.
    Yup. If we've added a new gate - Reputation - then great! Even if the majority of checks are against this new stat, that's totally fine. The problem is when there's no reward for being heavily Paragon or Renegade. The blue/red dialog on the left isn't special anymore.
    Kainy wrote: »
    The gain, here, is that there is no longer a punishment for being a Shepard who isn't defined 100% by "paragon" or "renegade"
    It's only a gain for purple Sheps, which I posit are the minority / chiefly folk who are only going to play through once. What you consider a punishment I consider a reward. I'm getting something by going full Paragon or full Renegade.

    I would think more people do mixed runs than pure runs. Because, let's face it, unless you're metagaming, there are times when you want to call someone on their bullshit, or be a decent human being to your squadmate even if you're going otherwise completely in the opposite direction.

    But I have no data to prove either your or my statement, so whatever. :)

  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    I never do pure runs myself

  • PantomimePantomime Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Is it just me? but I am finding the scope of ME3 to be far to epic. ME1 villain is Saren/Sovreign. ME2 we are dealing with the collectors/Harbinger/reaper fetus. Now we are dealing with an entire 50k+ year old sentient race responsible for the eradication of nearly all life multiple times, and only YOU can stop them. ME3 Shep is coming off a little too "space Jesus" for me.

    Also, I go into this thinking things can't end well for shep. You cant come across a foe like the reapers and defeat them without a high personal cost. Either Shep dies for real for real, or bioware pulls another "The hero disapears into the far reaches (Hawke, Revan, DA1 grey warden etc). Which I feel old shep deserves better than.

    Finally, WTB Chakwas and/or Samara romance pst.

    P.S

    It is like playing a forgotten realms game, where you play as Drizzt or Elemenster. (did that just ruin my credibility?)

    Pantomime on
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