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[Mass Effect] SPOILER ALL ME3 DISCUSSION. ALL OF IT. DON'T ARGUE ABOUT DLC

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    manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    Klyka wrote: »
    It's the funniest thing ever, seriously.
    I have seen the endings and...yeah.. hahahaha

    Haha as in?
    The fanbase gets trolled? Or the ending is just dumb (it was all a dream etc)?

    No spoilers, just one or the other.

    Cause I'd be happy with the first.

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    SkemmdurSkemmdur Registered User regular
    Klyka wrote: »
    It's the funniest thing ever, seriously.
    I have seen the endings and...yeah.. hahahaha

    Haha as in?
    The fanbase gets trolled? Or the ending is just dumb (it was all a dream etc)?

    No spoilers, just one or the other.

    Cause I'd be happy with the first.
    It is dumb. So, so dumb. One part in particular (the kick in the balls I mentioned earlier.)

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    RT800RT800 Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    I know one thing:
    I'm keeping that goddamn Reaper base, even in my Paragon run. It just makes no sense to dump it.

    "We can't use Reaper tech to defeat the Reapers?" Seriously Shepard? Really? I guess we should just 86 the Mass Effect relays and the ship drives and personal shields and half the rest of the fucking tech in the galaxy as well then. We'll just go back to relying on gun powder and fossil fuels.

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    manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    Skemmdur wrote: »
    Klyka wrote: »
    It's the funniest thing ever, seriously.
    I have seen the endings and...yeah.. hahahaha

    Haha as in?
    The fanbase gets trolled? Or the ending is just dumb (it was all a dream etc)?

    No spoilers, just one or the other.

    Cause I'd be happy with the first.
    It is dumb. So, so dumb. One part in particular (the kick in the balls I mentioned earlier.)

    Well, I'm not going to ask for anything more specific than that. As long as humanity survives, and the Reapers are dead/cycle is broken in one of the endings. That's all I care about. If *everyone* has to go down fighting, then that's what it's gonna take.

    Remember folks, I'm just speculating here.

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    manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    I don't care if decisions bite you in the ass as long as it's not a situation where you have to play through all 3 games "right" to get the "good" ending.

    Doesn't that defeat the purpose of having your choices 'matter?' Why shouldn't you be able to screw yourself out of the best ending? If you can get the best ending regardless of how bad things go in the first two games, that rather defeats the purpose of having an 'interactive' trilogy in my view.

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    The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    I don't care if decisions bite you in the ass as long as it's not a situation where you have to play through all 3 games "right" to get the "good" ending.

    Doesn't that defeat the purpose of having your choices 'matter?' Why shouldn't you be able to screw yourself out of the best ending? If you can get the best ending regardless of how bad things go in the first two games, that rather defeats the purpose of having an 'interactive' trilogy in my view.

    That only holds true if the game is coherent and the choices are believable.

    I can imagine that with limited development time, they won't be able to explore every conceivable outcome of each branching path.

    So for some, choices will often end in a deus ex machina or by looping back to the other side of the river. Making them pointless in the first place.

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    Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Alexandria, VARegistered User regular
    RT800 wrote: »
    I know one thing:
    I'm keeping that goddamn Reaper base, even in my Paragon run. It just makes no sense to dump it.

    "We can't use Reaper tech to defeat the Reapers?" Seriously Shepard? Really? I guess we should just 86 the Mass Effect relays and the ship drives and personal shields and half the rest of the fucking tech in the galaxy as well then. We'll just go back to relying on gun powder and fossil fuels.
    The rest of that shit was designed to prevent indoctrination. The Collector Base, probably not. There's no way you're getting any useful data out of that place before the researchers start worshiping the Reapers.

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    VicktorVicktor Infidel Castro Rancho ChupacabraRegistered User regular
    I don't care if decisions bite you in the ass as long as it's not a situation where you have to play through all 3 games "right" to get the "good" ending.

    I'm not reading the spoilers, but if you have the game on PC there will likely be a save game editor out by the time you finish your first playthrough.

    And if you're not playing on the Master Console, I'm willing to bet that all the big deal ending things can be set as part of the opening interactive comic thing when you create a new ME3 character.

    And that's only if you can pull yourself away form the multiplayer and inevitable DLC long enough to do another playthrough.


    That said, I find myself *wanting* to playthrough ME1 again just to experience the different interactions rather than simply have a save that chooses them - but that gameplay is hard to go back to after ME3 demo.

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    cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    Quick question: can someone point me to a quick guide for a walkthrough of Mass Effect 2 in which no one dies, not even the Normandy crew? I'm going to play the game through again before firing up Mass Effect 3, and the perfectionist in me doesn't want anyone to croak.

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    VicktorVicktor Infidel Castro Rancho ChupacabraRegistered User regular
    Skemmdur wrote: »
    Klyka wrote: »
    It's the funniest thing ever, seriously.
    I have seen the endings and...yeah.. hahahaha

    Haha as in?
    The fanbase gets trolled? Or the ending is just dumb (it was all a dream etc)?

    No spoilers, just one or the other.

    Cause I'd be happy with the first.
    It is dumb. So, so dumb. One part in particular (the kick in the balls I mentioned earlier.)

    Well, I'm not going to ask for anything more specific than that. As long as humanity survives, and the Reapers are dead/cycle is broken in one of the endings. That's all I care about. If *everyone* has to go down fighting, then that's what it's gonna take.

    Remember folks, I'm just speculating here.

    A potential ending with Shepard sacrificing every sentient race so that humanity can survive?

    We'll call that the 'Ashley's Dog' ending.

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    manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    My renshep would do it, in an instant. He fights CCCP style.

    The nerdtears would flow like a rivers.

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    SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    So we can start preloading Friday!

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    Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Alexandria, VARegistered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Quick question: can someone point me to a quick guide for a walkthrough of Mass Effect 2 in which no one dies, not even the Normandy crew? I'm going to play the game through again before firing up Mass Effect 3, and the perfectionist in me doesn't want anyone to croak.
    Do everybody's loyalty mission (except Tali's, if you want), and then get Legion. Do his loyalty mission last. Buy all the upgrades to the ship. Jacob, Miranda, and Garrus are suitable team leaders, and Legion, Kasumi, and Tali are good tech experts. Jack and Morinth/Samara can do the biotic barrier. Anyone can escort the crew. Don't take Zaeed, Grunt, or Garrus to the final boss fight, since they have the highest Hold the Line values. Legion, Kasumi, Mordin, and Tali have the lowest values (I'm pretty sure Mordin and Tali are 1 if they're loyal, not sure about the others), so it would be wise to take at least one, but bear in mind that AI hacking is useless against the Collectors, so Mordin and Kasumi would be best.

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    CaptainNemoCaptainNemo Registered User regular
    Vicktor wrote: »
    Skemmdur wrote: »
    Klyka wrote: »
    It's the funniest thing ever, seriously.
    I have seen the endings and...yeah.. hahahaha

    Haha as in?
    The fanbase gets trolled? Or the ending is just dumb (it was all a dream etc)?

    No spoilers, just one or the other.

    Cause I'd be happy with the first.
    It is dumb. So, so dumb. One part in particular (the kick in the balls I mentioned earlier.)

    Well, I'm not going to ask for anything more specific than that. As long as humanity survives, and the Reapers are dead/cycle is broken in one of the endings. That's all I care about. If *everyone* has to go down fighting, then that's what it's gonna take.

    Remember folks, I'm just speculating here.

    A potential ending with Shepard sacrificing every sentient race so that humanity can survive?

    We'll call that the 'Ashley's Dog' ending.

    Reaper's win, reap all sentient life: Dust Befor Cosmic Winds
    Reaper's win, humanity ascends to Reaper-hood: Salvation through Destruction
    Reaper's defeated, all races save humanity gone: Ashley's Dog
    Reaper's defeated, all races saved, Shepard dies: Never Forget
    Reaper's defeated, all races saved, Shepard lives: The Shepard Triumphant over the Wolves

    How's that?

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    cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Quick question: can someone point me to a quick guide for a walkthrough of Mass Effect 2 in which no one dies, not even the Normandy crew? I'm going to play the game through again before firing up Mass Effect 3, and the perfectionist in me doesn't want anyone to croak.
    Do everybody's loyalty mission (except Tali's, if you want), and then get Legion. Do his loyalty mission last. Buy all the upgrades to the ship. Jacob, Miranda, and Garrus are suitable team leaders, and Legion, Kasumi, and Tali are good tech experts. Jack and Morinth/Samara can do the biotic barrier. Anyone can escort the crew. Don't take Zaeed, Grunt, or Garrus to the final boss fight, since they have the highest Hold the Line values. Legion, Kasumi, Mordin, and Tali have the lowest values (I'm pretty sure Mordin and Tali are 1 if they're loyal, not sure about the others), so it would be wise to take at least one, but bear in mind that AI hacking is useless against the Collectors, so Mordin and Kasumi would be best.

    Groovy, thanks.

    I'm assuming I can do all the other stuff afterward, and the decisions I'll make there will still carry over to ME3?

    Also, is it possible to get all the ship upgrades just by finding minerals in chests? I'd rather not mine if I have to, and I can limp along with puny guns and such.

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    manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Vicktor wrote: »
    Skemmdur wrote: »
    Klyka wrote: »
    It's the funniest thing ever, seriously.
    I have seen the endings and...yeah.. hahahaha

    Haha as in?
    The fanbase gets trolled? Or the ending is just dumb (it was all a dream etc)?

    No spoilers, just one or the other.

    Cause I'd be happy with the first.
    It is dumb. So, so dumb. One part in particular (the kick in the balls I mentioned earlier.)

    Well, I'm not going to ask for anything more specific than that. As long as humanity survives, and the Reapers are dead/cycle is broken in one of the endings. That's all I care about. If *everyone* has to go down fighting, then that's what it's gonna take.

    Remember folks, I'm just speculating here.

    A potential ending with Shepard sacrificing every sentient race so that humanity can survive?

    We'll call that the 'Ashley's Dog' ending.

    Reaper's win, reap all sentient life: Dust Befor Cosmic Winds
    Reaper's win, humanity ascends to Reaper-hood: Salvation through Destruction
    Reaper's defeated, all races save humanity gone: Ashley's Dog
    Reaper's defeated, all races saved, Shepard dies: Never Forget
    Reaper's defeated, all races saved, Shepard lives: The Shepard Triumphant over the Wolves

    How's that?

    Seems reasonable to me. You can't have it both ways.

    Either the Reapers are mecha-cthulu and the only way to beat them is with near mass extinction and the death of * nearly everyone you've ever known*... or they were just overblown mecha-squids and most of your actions against them were meaningless since they could be defeated in a conventional way.

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    Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I uh... character edited all the minerals I needed. Because probing was dumb.

    ...and when you are done with that; take a folding
    chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
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    The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    I hope there's some lingering mystery in a post-credits scene.

    I mean, someone built the Reapers, right?

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    FreiFrei A French Prometheus Unbound DeadwoodRegistered User regular
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    I hope there's some lingering mystery in a post-credits scene.

    I mean, someone built the Reapers, right?

    No the Reapers are this game's equivalent of God. No one made God, he just was. IT'S IN THE BIBLE.

    Are you the magic man?
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    CaptainNemoCaptainNemo Registered User regular
    What does god need with a giant cuttlefish shapped starship?

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    VicktorVicktor Infidel Castro Rancho ChupacabraRegistered User regular
    Vicktor wrote: »
    Skemmdur wrote: »
    Klyka wrote: »
    It's the funniest thing ever, seriously.
    I have seen the endings and...yeah.. hahahaha

    Haha as in?
    The fanbase gets trolled? Or the ending is just dumb (it was all a dream etc)?

    No spoilers, just one or the other.

    Cause I'd be happy with the first.
    It is dumb. So, so dumb. One part in particular (the kick in the balls I mentioned earlier.)

    Well, I'm not going to ask for anything more specific than that. As long as humanity survives, and the Reapers are dead/cycle is broken in one of the endings. That's all I care about. If *everyone* has to go down fighting, then that's what it's gonna take.

    Remember folks, I'm just speculating here.

    A potential ending with Shepard sacrificing every sentient race so that humanity can survive?

    We'll call that the 'Ashley's Dog' ending.

    Reapers win, reap all sentient life: Dust Befor Cosmic Winds
    Reapers win, humanity ascends to Reaper-hood: Salvation through Destruction
    Reapers defeated, all races save humanity gone: Ashley's Dog
    Reapers defeated, all races saved, Shepard dies: Never Forget
    Reapers defeated, all races saved, Shepard lives: The Shepard Triumphant over the Wolves

    How's that?

    Actually better than my suggestion because it matches the analogy more closely.

    But I'd add:
    Reapers defeated, all races die, Shepard lives on as undying husk: Halo

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    ArchonexArchonex No hard feelings, right? Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Guys, guys, what really matters is that we can set up scenes like this.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKn5te5yrZU&feature=related
    They should have spent a few million more credits rebuilding Shepard after the Collectors got ahold of him. He came back wrong.

    It's like a demonic Ross Perot--- IN SPAAAAAACE!

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    CaptainNemoCaptainNemo Registered User regular
    Vicktor wrote: »
    Vicktor wrote: »
    Skemmdur wrote: »
    Klyka wrote: »
    It's the funniest thing ever, seriously.
    I have seen the endings and...yeah.. hahahaha

    Haha as in?
    The fanbase gets trolled? Or the ending is just dumb (it was all a dream etc)?

    No spoilers, just one or the other.

    Cause I'd be happy with the first.
    It is dumb. So, so dumb. One part in particular (the kick in the balls I mentioned earlier.)

    Well, I'm not going to ask for anything more specific than that. As long as humanity survives, and the Reapers are dead/cycle is broken in one of the endings. That's all I care about. If *everyone* has to go down fighting, then that's what it's gonna take.

    Remember folks, I'm just speculating here.

    A potential ending with Shepard sacrificing every sentient race so that humanity can survive?

    We'll call that the 'Ashley's Dog' ending.

    Reapers win, reap all sentient life: Dust Befor Cosmic Winds
    Reapers win, humanity ascends to Reaper-hood: Salvation through Destruction
    Reapers defeated, all races save humanity gone: Ashley's Dog
    Reapers defeated, all races saved, Shepard dies: Never Forget
    Reapers defeated, all races saved, Shepard lives: The Shepard Triumphant over the Wolves

    How's that?

    Actually better than my suggestion because it matches the analogy more closely.

    But I'd add:
    Reapers defeated, all races die, Shepard lives on as undying husk: Halo

    Heh.

    I'd call it something like The Lonesome Vigil, or the Long Night of Solitude, or something vaguely neat sounding like that.

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    The Dude With HerpesThe Dude With Herpes Lehi, UTRegistered User regular
    Vicktor wrote: »
    I don't care if decisions bite you in the ass as long as it's not a situation where you have to play through all 3 games "right" to get the "good" ending.

    I'm not reading the spoilers, but if you have the game on PC there will likely be a save game editor out by the time you finish your first playthrough.

    And if you're not playing on the Master Console, I'm willing to bet that all the big deal ending things can be set as part of the opening interactive comic thing when you create a new ME3 character.

    And that's only if you can pull yourself away form the multiplayer and inevitable DLC long enough to do another playthrough.


    That said, I find myself *wanting* to playthrough ME1 again just to experience the different interactions rather than simply have a save that chooses them - but that gameplay is hard to go back to after ME3 demo.

    Oh I do want to play through them all at once, I just won't have the time right now and will be annoyed if my "cannon" Shepard has "good" endings locked off because of some previous decision.

    I understand some folks around here seem to think it's a good idea for that to happen, that, say, something you can do in ME1 punishes you to the point of having assured failure in ME3 but I think that is the shittiest most terrible idea.

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    Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Alexandria, VARegistered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Quick question: can someone point me to a quick guide for a walkthrough of Mass Effect 2 in which no one dies, not even the Normandy crew? I'm going to play the game through again before firing up Mass Effect 3, and the perfectionist in me doesn't want anyone to croak.
    Do everybody's loyalty mission (except Tali's, if you want), and then get Legion. Do his loyalty mission last. Buy all the upgrades to the ship. Jacob, Miranda, and Garrus are suitable team leaders, and Legion, Kasumi, and Tali are good tech experts. Jack and Morinth/Samara can do the biotic barrier. Anyone can escort the crew. Don't take Zaeed, Grunt, or Garrus to the final boss fight, since they have the highest Hold the Line values. Legion, Kasumi, Mordin, and Tali have the lowest values (I'm pretty sure Mordin and Tali are 1 if they're loyal, not sure about the others), so it would be wise to take at least one, but bear in mind that AI hacking is useless against the Collectors, so Mordin and Kasumi would be best.

    Groovy, thanks.

    I'm assuming I can do all the other stuff afterward, and the decisions I'll make there will still carry over to ME3?

    Also, is it possible to get all the ship upgrades just by finding minerals in chests? I'd rather not mine if I have to, and I can limp along with puny guns and such.
    If you only get those upgrades, you can do it from an import, but I think you're underestimating how annoying peashooters are.

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    Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    The Reapers built themselves. In iterations. Over thousands of years. They were once organic. Then they developed prosthesis for the handicapped among them, and then augmentations for the non-handicapped, and it snowballed.

    That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

    ...and when you are done with that; take a folding
    chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
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    DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Quick question: can someone point me to a quick guide for a walkthrough of Mass Effect 2 in which no one dies, not even the Normandy crew? I'm going to play the game through again before firing up Mass Effect 3, and the perfectionist in me doesn't want anyone to croak.
    Do everybody's loyalty mission (except Tali's, if you want), and then get Legion. Do his loyalty mission last. Buy all the upgrades to the ship. Jacob, Miranda, and Garrus are suitable team leaders, and Legion, Kasumi, and Tali are good tech experts. Jack and Morinth/Samara can do the biotic barrier. Anyone can escort the crew. Don't take Zaeed, Grunt, or Garrus to the final boss fight, since they have the highest Hold the Line values. Legion, Kasumi, Mordin, and Tali have the lowest values (I'm pretty sure Mordin and Tali are 1 if they're loyal, not sure about the others), so it would be wise to take at least one, but bear in mind that AI hacking is useless against the Collectors, so Mordin and Kasumi would be best.

    Groovy, thanks.

    I'm assuming I can do all the other stuff afterward, and the decisions I'll make there will still carry over to ME3?

    Also, is it possible to get all the ship upgrades just by finding minerals in chests? I'd rather not mine if I have to, and I can limp along with puny guns and such.

    ship upgrades i think it is without mining, also he didnt mention it but the only reason you might want to do tali's loyality after getting
    legion is purely conversation options if you want to take legion, just do everything and all 19 n7 missions before, dlc you can do afterwards but doing shadow broker early is quite nice for extra minerals without mining, arrival is good either before or after the end game but as soon as something happens to your crew if you do 1 mission half the crew dies.

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    Ad astraAd astra Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    All I hope for is that were are not railroaded into a heroic sacrifice ending in the vein Fallout 3. There should be a sacrifice ending, but it should also be avoidable.

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    cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Quick question: can someone point me to a quick guide for a walkthrough of Mass Effect 2 in which no one dies, not even the Normandy crew? I'm going to play the game through again before firing up Mass Effect 3, and the perfectionist in me doesn't want anyone to croak.
    Do everybody's loyalty mission (except Tali's, if you want), and then get Legion. Do his loyalty mission last. Buy all the upgrades to the ship. Jacob, Miranda, and Garrus are suitable team leaders, and Legion, Kasumi, and Tali are good tech experts. Jack and Morinth/Samara can do the biotic barrier. Anyone can escort the crew. Don't take Zaeed, Grunt, or Garrus to the final boss fight, since they have the highest Hold the Line values. Legion, Kasumi, Mordin, and Tali have the lowest values (I'm pretty sure Mordin and Tali are 1 if they're loyal, not sure about the others), so it would be wise to take at least one, but bear in mind that AI hacking is useless against the Collectors, so Mordin and Kasumi would be best.

    Groovy, thanks.

    I'm assuming I can do all the other stuff afterward, and the decisions I'll make there will still carry over to ME3?

    Also, is it possible to get all the ship upgrades just by finding minerals in chests? I'd rather not mine if I have to, and I can limp along with puny guns and such.
    If you only get those upgrades, you can do it from an import, but I think you're underestimating how annoying peashooters are.

    Dang. Ok, thanks.

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    CaptainNemoCaptainNemo Registered User regular
    Ad astra wrote: »
    All I hope for is that were are not railroaded into a heroic sacrifice ending like Fallout 3's. There should be a sacrifice ending, but is should be avoidable.

    You don't have to sacrifice your self in Fallout 3. You can send Lyons in to die in your stead.

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    manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    Frei wrote: »
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    I hope there's some lingering mystery in a post-credits scene.

    I mean, someone built the Reapers, right?

    No the Reapers are this game's equivalent of God. No one made God, he just was. IT'S IN THE BIBLE.

    I think this is a better description of the Reapers:

    And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

    And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men. And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them. And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.

    And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

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    Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    You know, I used the android mod when I was playing Fallout 3, and I laugh at what the ending would do to you if you really were fueled by radiation.

    ...and when you are done with that; take a folding
    chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
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    CaptainNemoCaptainNemo Registered User regular
    Regarding the ending,
    is Harbinger really ME's big bad guy? Or is it someone else? Please be as vague as possiple.

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    Ad astraAd astra Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    The Reapers built themselves. In iterations. Over thousands of years. They were once organic. Then they developed prosthesis for the handicapped among them, and then augmentations for the non-handicapped, and it snowballed.

    That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

    I've heard they are going to flat out tell us the history of the Reapers in ME3... this seems to me like a bad idea. Because I see a reveal about the Reapers going one of two ways, it will be something boring and obvious, or it will be something profoundly stupid.

    Of course, it could be a mind-blowing reveal that changes the entire nature of the story, while at the same time making perfect sense... but I doubt that

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    Z0reZ0re Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Regarding the ending,
    is Harbinger really ME's big bad guy? Or is it someone else? Please be as vague as possiple.
    Someone else.

    Also on the question of sacrifice
    There are endings where Shepard survives

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    Ad astraAd astra Registered User regular
    Ad astra wrote: »
    All I hope for is that were are not railroaded into a heroic sacrifice ending like Fallout 3's. There should be a sacrifice ending, but is should be avoidable.

    You don't have to sacrifice your self in Fallout 3. You can send Lyons in to die in your stead.


    I know that, but that is what a dick would choose to do. I want the option of living, and not sending someone else to die for me.

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    CaptainNemoCaptainNemo Registered User regular
    Z0re wrote: »
    Regarding the ending,
    is Harbinger really ME's big bad guy? Or is it someone else? Please be as vague as possiple.
    Someone else.

    Also on the question of sacrifice
    There are endings where Shepard survives
    Ah, good. Something about Harbinger just didn't give off the "Ultimate Antagonist" vibe.

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    VicktorVicktor Infidel Castro Rancho ChupacabraRegistered User regular
    Vicktor wrote: »
    I don't care if decisions bite you in the ass as long as it's not a situation where you have to play through all 3 games "right" to get the "good" ending.

    I'm not reading the spoilers, but if you have the game on PC there will likely be a save game editor out by the time you finish your first playthrough.

    And if you're not playing on the Master Console, I'm willing to bet that all the big deal ending things can be set as part of the opening interactive comic thing when you create a new ME3 character.

    And that's only if you can pull yourself away form the multiplayer and inevitable DLC long enough to do another playthrough.


    That said, I find myself *wanting* to playthrough ME1 again just to experience the different interactions rather than simply have a save that chooses them - but that gameplay is hard to go back to after ME3 demo.

    Oh I do want to play through them all at once, I just won't have the time right now and will be annoyed if my "cannon" Shepard has "good" endings locked off because of some previous decision.

    I understand some folks around here seem to think it's a good idea for that to happen, that, say, something you can do in ME1 punishes you to the point of having assured failure in ME3 but I think that is the shittiest most terrible idea.

    Well, there are probably things you can't undo (your decisions have consequences). Like resurrect Wrex or the Rachnii or Kaiden or any of your suicide mission folks. But at the Galaxy at War thing, I get the impression that your ending will depend upon numbers associated with that, and you can do all sorts of things (N7 missions and multiplayer) to affect that number within ME3 that will change the "goodness" of the ending.

    I don't know, of course. But it seems consistent with the 'you don't need to import or play multiplayer to get the "best" ending' stance that I *think* they've said.

    Does anyone know what happens if you did a failshep run and let your entire ME2 crew + squad die? Are we just missing some squadmates in 3? Or are there generic fill-ins?

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    Gaming-FreakGaming-Freak Registered User regular
    Z0re wrote: »
    Regarding the ending,
    is Harbinger really ME's big bad guy? Or is it someone else? Please be as vague as possiple.
    Someone else.

    Also on the question of sacrifice
    There are endings where Shepard survives
    Ah, good. Something about Harbinger just didn't give off the "Ultimate Antagonist" vibe.

    Calling it now:
    The Illusive Man was an agent for the Reapers all along, helping them by creating a human-focused group to antagonize the rest of the galaxy and ultimately help enslave all life.

    That's probably not it, but if it his, oh boy am I gonna laugh.

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    kildykildy Registered User regular
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    So we can start preloading Friday!

    So.. last game I preloaded on Origin, it turned out that Origin doesn't actually encrypt the data files, and a fixed EXE let you play the game without the date check running.

    *prays that's not what they just fixed in the Origin update*

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