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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    :+1: That did it. Finally a working Steam script.

    Also for those who have been struggling to get a Dualshock 4 controller working with Windows 10, I've had more success with Inputmapper than DS4Windows.

  • DisruptedCapitalistDisruptedCapitalist I swear! Registered User regular
    So Windows occasionally decides I down actually own "My Pictures" and keeps asking me if I want to have permanent access to it. I've checked the folder settings and I'm listed as the owner and Administrators have "full access" and yet it keeps doing this.

    Annoying.

  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    Seems to be a common issue. If you use Steam, make sure it hasn't hit those folders as well.

  • fortisfortis OhioRegistered User regular
    Well, I've upgraded to Windows 10 with almost no problems.

    I have the settings set to put my monitor to sleep after 10 minutes of inactivity, but it doesn't do it until maybe a couple of hours later, if at all. Even if it goes to sleep, it will randomly wake up.

    Note, I'm not trying to put my whole computer into sleep mode, just the monitor. Is a program interfering? I thought only the mouse or keyboard would wake the monitor.

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  • DisruptedCapitalistDisruptedCapitalist I swear! Registered User regular
    edited August 2015
    jothki wrote: »
    Seems to be a common issue. If you use Steam, make sure it hasn't hit those folders as well.

    Yeah, it's happened there too. I can avoid it by opening Steam apps as an administrator, but that's bullshit, honestly, if I have to go through that every time.
    fortis wrote: »
    Well, I've upgraded to Windows 10 with almost no problems.

    I have the settings set to put my monitor to sleep after 10 minutes of inactivity, but it doesn't do it until maybe a couple of hours later, if at all. Even if it goes to sleep, it will randomly wake up.

    Note, I'm not trying to put my whole computer into sleep mode, just the monitor. Is a program interfering? I thought only the mouse or keyboard would wake the monitor.

    Yeah, that's happened to me to. I hadn't really thought of it as a Windows 10 issue until you mentioned it now. I just figured I was jiggling the mouse by accident.

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  • amnesiasoftamnesiasoft Thick Creamy Furry Registered User regular
    Just because you aren't using the mouse doesn't mean it isn't waking it up.

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    jothki wrote: »
    I may have just figured out a way to cut out some of Windows 10's bloatware without resorting to Powershell or having to fight against automatic reinstallations. Putting in a support question and crossing my fingers, since it could easily go either way.

    Ugh, it's looking like the only way I can get an upgrade installer doesn't provide me with any choice on what I upgrade to. I can make an ISO for anything, but that only lets me install a clean version, which doesn't grant the initial activation. My attempt to prune out all of the nonuninstallable media apps has been thwarted before it could even begin.

    If any of you are from Europe, please stop hogging all of the consumer rights.

  • evilthecatevilthecat Registered User regular
    soooo is win10 worth upgrading to yet or is it still a buggy shitheap?
    I've been avoiding it for the last weeks but that pop up just won't leave me alone D:

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  • MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    I think most here will tell you to upgrade, but you'll probably run into a few odd bugs along the way.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    it was never *really* a buggy shitheap. It has quirks and isn't perfect, but the same could be said of every OS since ever.

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  • DisruptedCapitalistDisruptedCapitalist I swear! Registered User regular
    Yeah, there are things about my Android (Lollipop) OS that drive me nuts too. On the bright side, the issue I mentioned earlier about requiring permission for everything seems to have cleared up. Either they pushed out a fix for it already or my "fixes" finally worked.

  • KetherialKetherial Registered User regular
    edited August 2015
    evilthecat wrote: »
    soooo is win10 worth upgrading to yet or is it still a buggy shitheap?
    I've been avoiding it for the last weeks but that pop up just won't leave me alone D:

    i've read reviews that says it is full of advertising and also that it uses more bandwidth in the background and actually may slow down your browsing experience. is there any truth to that?

    just for context, i use windows 7 now and it is pretty good.

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  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    Ketherial wrote: »
    evilthecat wrote: »
    soooo is win10 worth upgrading to yet or is it still a buggy shitheap?
    I've been avoiding it for the last weeks but that pop up just won't leave me alone D:

    i've read reviews that says it is full of advertising and also that it uses more bandwidth in the background and actually may slow down your browsing experience.

    LOL wut.

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  • KetherialKetherial Registered User regular
    i think the reviews were talking about the tiles and stuff on the right side of the start menu. can i remove those? or can i at least make it so they don't continuously update? it would annoy me to feel like my bandwidth is continuously being used to download news that i don't care about at all.

  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    Ketherial wrote: »
    evilthecat wrote: »
    soooo is win10 worth upgrading to yet or is it still a buggy shitheap?
    I've been avoiding it for the last weeks but that pop up just won't leave me alone D:

    i've read reviews that says it is full of advertising and also that it uses more bandwidth in the background and actually may slow down your browsing experience. is there any truth to that?

    just for context, i use windows 7 now and it is pretty good.

    This is a delicate can of worms to open in this thread but here goes:

    if you use the express settings during setup, there will be some monitoring. You can choose to turn most if not all of that off during setup. In the last few days there have been reports that there is still a small phone home for one component even when turned off, but based on how little data that actually sends (just the machine ID), i'm willing to bet that's more a programming bug than anything else.

    Most of the tracking things that are there aren't (in my opinion) really nefarious. The store can use location tracking, but that is so it can present to you apps that are popular in your country/area. It'll also track what apps you use more often, and present to you in the store similar/complimentary apps. It is mostly stuff like that.

    There was a big deal being made about the EULA saying microsoft could look at all your files, but the reality is that's only for the onedrive cloud storage. If you don't use that at all you don't have a problem. (even then it's [again in my opinion] way less of a problem than some people were making it out to be).

    As for slowing down your browsing experience, there's really no truth to that at all. the biggest things that "slow down" browsing are a browser loaded with plugins and extensions. That's not a Windows problem.


    in my opinion a lot of the stories about Windows 10 tracking users are way overblown and closer to paranoia. I don't think it is super nefarious on Microsoft's part, and it's not any different than you see on any other OS in 2015. If you really don't want that stuff turned on, you can turn most if not all of it off. But it really isn't as big a deal as some people are making it out to me.



    Now, some people on this thread will disagree with me, and that's fine, as long as they do so in a respectful manner.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    Ketherial wrote: »
    i think the reviews were talking about the tiles and stuff on the right side of the start menu. can i remove those? or can i at least make it so they don't continuously update? it would annoy me to feel like my bandwidth is continuously being used to download news that i don't care about at all.

    if you right click on a tile you can turn the live tile off, that'll leave it as a static image. you can also remove them in the right click menu. if you don't have any live tiles on the right side you can collapse the start menu to a single pane.

    As for bandwidth concerns. you're talking kilobytes of data. and like, single digit kilobytes at a time. If you're worried about that little amount of bandwidth......I don't have much I can say about that.

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  • DisruptedCapitalistDisruptedCapitalist I swear! Registered User regular
    Go Linux! (But not Ubuntu, cuz they spy on you too.)

  • KetherialKetherial Registered User regular
    i'm not worried about kilobytes of data at all. i'm just trying to get some clarity from a board i trust as opposed to reading reviews online from random people that i absolutely don't trust. haha.

    i just want to make an educated decision.

    thank you for the thoughtful and informative post.

  • EndaroEndaro Registered User regular
    wunderbar wrote: »
    if you use the express settings during setup, there will be some monitoring. You can choose to turn most if not all of that off during setup. In the last few days there have been reports that there is still a small phone home for one component even when turned off, but based on how little data that actually sends (just the machine ID), i'm willing to bet that's more a programming bug than anything else.

    For what it's worth, Microsoft made a short reply to the Ars Technica article and it seems more intentional than a programming bug. Whether it still bothers people is kinda up to the individual though, obviously.

  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    Endaro wrote: »
    wunderbar wrote: »
    if you use the express settings during setup, there will be some monitoring. You can choose to turn most if not all of that off during setup. In the last few days there have been reports that there is still a small phone home for one component even when turned off, but based on how little data that actually sends (just the machine ID), i'm willing to bet that's more a programming bug than anything else.

    For what it's worth, Microsoft made a short reply to the Ars Technica article and it seems more intentional than a programming bug. Whether it still bothers people is kinda up to the individual though, obviously.

    fair, I didn't see that. What I will say is that if your windows 10 install is activated, your hardware ID has already been sent to Microsoft, so I could care less about it sending something back that they already have.

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  • The Dude With HerpesThe Dude With Herpes Lehi, UTRegistered User regular
    edited August 2015
    Hey. The lock screen slideshow.

    Is there any way to make it more screensaver-ish?

    By that I mean force it to periodically move the time/date so its not in a static location. Also for it to hide the mouse cursor when it starts?

    Win10 seems incapable of being able to have a screensaver enabled at the same time as having a slideshow lock screen. One always disables the other.

    EDIT: I mean the static time on the slideshow wouldn't concern me if the actual screensaver came on after half hour or something, but it won't let me enable both. And I really like the way win10 does the slideshow. And I don't want to have it turn the screen off entirely.

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  • MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    Considering I'm partially misreading your post, is burn-in still an issue for people? I thought that went away when we all moved to LCD/LED monitors.

  • HyperionHyperion Registered User regular
    :+1: That did it. Finally a working Steam script.

    Also for those who have been struggling to get a Dualshock 4 controller working with Windows 10, I've had more success with Inputmapper than DS4Windows.

    Out of curiosity, are you using your DS4 over Bluetooth or with a wired connection?

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    New Windows 10 insider build. colour options mostly, as well as some memory management improvements.

    http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/08/18/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-10525/

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  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    Think I'll stay on the insider track, but I'll move to slow ring unless they are previewing something fantastic looking.

  • DranythDranyth Surf ColoradoRegistered User regular
    Mugsley wrote: »
    Considering I'm partially misreading your post, is burn-in still an issue for people? I thought that went away when we all moved to LCD/LED monitors.

    Image retention is definitely a thing.

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  • The Dude With HerpesThe Dude With Herpes Lehi, UTRegistered User regular
    Dranyth wrote: »
    Mugsley wrote: »
    Considering I'm partially misreading your post, is burn-in still an issue for people? I thought that went away when we all moved to LCD/LED monitors.

    Image retention is definitely a thing.

    Yeah it is.

    I don't like the 'turn off' method because (and it might just be a result of how I have my whole setup configured in my office) when my PC's get the "monitor off" signal they resize all the windows I have open and move them to the upper left part of the screen. It's obnoxious, but both of my PC's do it. I have to deal with it enough anyway because I switch inputs regularly to play consoles, but I don't want to have to fiddle with it more than necessary (my receiver is set to pass through HDMI to avoid any potential display lag on devices, but I wonder if turning pass through off would make it so my PC's aren't told the monitor is off when I change inputs).

    Anyway though, yes, it still is a thing. My last phone that I had a dock for so I could use it as a clock got burn in, my main TV has burn in (but that's a totally different issue, not for normal burn in reasons), and I just don't want to risk my PC monitors having the time and day burned into the bottom left of the screen. :P

    I might just turn back on the screensaver and give up on the lock screen, but I just really like it.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    Think I'll stay on the insider track, but I'll move to slow ring unless they are previewing something fantastic looking.

    I'm going to take this one, if the builds are less frequent than they were before I'll stay on fast, but I don't want a new build every couple of weeks, if that happens I'll move to slow.

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  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    edited August 2015
    OK, so... libraries.

    My system drive is a fairly small SSD, so I don't want it filling up with documents, movies, etc. I have a bigger platter HDD where I keep all of that.

    I want to add the folders on that HDD to the appropriate user library folders in Windows (documents, pictures, videos, etc). I had done this before in Windows 7 without difficult just by using "include in library."

    In my upgraded Windows 10 install, the folders on my storage drive don't show up in the appropriate libraries under "This PC." If I scroll down in Explorer to Libraries (below This PC), it includes them there. But not if I just go to "Documents" or "Pictures" or whatever from the Start Menu. Only the stuff that's in the library directories on the OS drive shows up there. If I navigate to the folders on my storage drive and use "Include in library," it says they're already there. I tried removing them and re-adding them to the respective libraries, but it makes no difference.

    How do I fix this and make Documents show ALL the documents from folders included in that library, Pictures show all my pictures, etc?

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  • The Dude With HerpesThe Dude With Herpes Lehi, UTRegistered User regular
    edited August 2015
    Gaslight wrote: »
    OK, so... libraries.

    My system drive is a fairly small SSD, so I don't want it filling up with documents, movies, etc. I have a bigger platter HDD where I keep all of that.

    I want to add the folders on that HDD to the appropriate user library folders in Windows (documents, pictures, videos, etc). I had done this before in Windows 7 without difficult just by using "include in library."

    In my upgraded Windows 10 install, the folders on my storage drive don't show up in the appropriate libraries under "This PC." If I scroll down in Explorer to Libraries (below This PC), it includes them there. But not if I just go to "Documents" or "Pictures" or whatever from the Start Menu. Only the stuff that's in the library directories on the OS drive shows up there. If I navigate to the folders on my storage drive and use "Include in library," it says they're already there. I tried removing them and re-adding them to the respective libraries, but it makes no difference.

    How do I fix this and make Documents show ALL the documents from folders included in that library, Pictures show all my pictures, etc?

    I don't know. On my old PC with 2 drives my libraries are still set up like they were in 7.

    Are you sure you're not looking at Quick Access instead of Libraries?

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    iirc libraries has been depricated. They were a really good idea but too many people found them too confusing.

    you might be better off to just point the system "documents" folder to the appropriate folder on the second hard drive, which you can do from the folder properties, and changing the location.

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  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    edited August 2015
    Gaslight wrote: »
    OK, so... libraries.

    My system drive is a fairly small SSD, so I don't want it filling up with documents, movies, etc. I have a bigger platter HDD where I keep all of that.

    I want to add the folders on that HDD to the appropriate user library folders in Windows (documents, pictures, videos, etc). I had done this before in Windows 7 without difficult just by using "include in library."

    In my upgraded Windows 10 install, the folders on my storage drive don't show up in the appropriate libraries under "This PC." If I scroll down in Explorer to Libraries (below This PC), it includes them there. But not if I just go to "Documents" or "Pictures" or whatever from the Start Menu. Only the stuff that's in the library directories on the OS drive shows up there. If I navigate to the folders on my storage drive and use "Include in library," it says they're already there. I tried removing them and re-adding them to the respective libraries, but it makes no difference.

    How do I fix this and make Documents show ALL the documents from folders included in that library, Pictures show all my pictures, etc?

    I don't know. On my old PC with 2 drives my libraries are still set up like they were in 7.

    Are you sure you're not looking at Quick Access instead of Libraries?

    If I hit Start>Documents (for example) I get only the stuff in the Documents folder which is on the C (OS) drive. Nothing from the folder on the storage (F) drive which is supposed to be included.

    If I start File Explorer, go to Documents from the default pane there (which is Quick Access I guess), same thing.

    If I go over to "This PC" in the left hand pane and then open Documents, same thing again.

    Libraries does not appear in File Explorer at all, now that I notice it, unless I navigate to the storage drive, right click on one of the folders there, and click "Include in library." It will say that folder is already included, but Libraries pops up below the This PC tree in the left pane of Explorer, with all of the proper folders in it. But they still never show up if I go to Documents, Pictures, etc. via any other route.

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  • The Dude With HerpesThe Dude With Herpes Lehi, UTRegistered User regular
    edited August 2015
    Gaslight wrote: »
    Gaslight wrote: »
    OK, so... libraries.

    My system drive is a fairly small SSD, so I don't want it filling up with documents, movies, etc. I have a bigger platter HDD where I keep all of that.

    I want to add the folders on that HDD to the appropriate user library folders in Windows (documents, pictures, videos, etc). I had done this before in Windows 7 without difficult just by using "include in library."

    In my upgraded Windows 10 install, the folders on my storage drive don't show up in the appropriate libraries under "This PC." If I scroll down in Explorer to Libraries (below This PC), it includes them there. But not if I just go to "Documents" or "Pictures" or whatever from the Start Menu. Only the stuff that's in the library directories on the OS drive shows up there. If I navigate to the folders on my storage drive and use "Include in library," it says they're already there. I tried removing them and re-adding them to the respective libraries, but it makes no difference.

    How do I fix this and make Documents show ALL the documents from folders included in that library, Pictures show all my pictures, etc?

    I don't know. On my old PC with 2 drives my libraries are still set up like they were in 7.

    Are you sure you're not looking at Quick Access instead of Libraries?

    If I hit Start>Documents (for example) I get only the stuff in the Documents folder which is on the C (OS) drive. Nothing from the folder on the storage (F) drive which is supposed to be included.

    If I start File Explorer, go to Documents from the default pane there (which is Quick Access I guess), same thing.

    If I go over to "This PC" in the left hand pane and then open Documents, same thing again.

    Libraries does not appear in File Explorer at all, now that I notice it, unless I navigate to the storage drive, right click on one of the folders there, and click "Include in library." It will say that folder is already included, but Libraries pops up below the This PC tree in the left pane of Explorer, with all of the proper folders in it. But they still never show up if I go to Documents, Pictures, etc. via any other route.

    Yeah so I fiddled with it and it's dumb.

    Libraries won't appear unless you add a folder to libraries (even if it's already added). Then Libraries will show up; but if you close the library it won't show up again. :rotate: You can add Libraries to your Quick Access (and Start Menu) while you have it shown up and you can access it easier.

    But yeah, it seems like they're phasing it out.

    As @wunderbar said, just point the system to only use the folder you want and don't worry about the libraries. I have nothing on my SSD in the documents folders and such. I only had them linked in Win7 because it was easy; but still didn't really serve a purpose.

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  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    As @wunderbar said, just point the system to only use the folder you want and don't worry about the libraries. I have nothing on my SSD in the documents folders and such. I only had them linked in Win7 because it was easy; but still didn't really serve a purpose.

    Yep, that's what I ended up doing. Thanks guys.

  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    I'd say at this point, there's really no reason not to just go ahead and upgrade. And then immediately downgrade. Licenses are tied into hardware IDs now, so once you've done that the system will be licensed for Windows 10 for the rest of its life and you can stop having to care about the deadline for free upgrades.

    And heck, you may even love it so much you don't want to downgrade. I thought it was a piece of shit, but apparently my opinion isn't completely universal?

  • HandgimpHandgimp R+L=J Family PhotoRegistered User regular
    Libraries won't appear unless you add a folder to libraries (even if it's already added). Then Libraries will show up; but if you close the library it won't show up again. :rotate: You can add Libraries to your Quick Access (and Start Menu) while you have it shown up and you can access it easier.

    But yeah, it seems like they're phasing it out.

    As @wunderbar said, just point the system to only use the folder you want and don't worry about the libraries. I have nothing on my SSD in the documents folders and such. I only had them linked in Win7 because it was easy; but still didn't really serve a purpose.

    Go to the whitespace under your list of stuff in the left column, right click, select Show Libraries.

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  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    edited August 2015
    Edit: Nvm, found the culprit.

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  • FremFrem Registered User regular
    edited August 2015
    The last time I saw a scroll bar on my desktop like that was when I accidentally turned on Active Desktop in Windows 98.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    Frem wrote: »
    The last time I saw a scroll bar on my desktop like that was when I accidentally turned on Active Desktop in Windows 98.

    we do not speak of Active Desktop here. Those were....dark times.

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  • jjae2123jjae2123 Registered User regular
    I've been using Windows 10 on my surface Pro and on my desktop homebuilt machine. I love it so far, no major complaints. Edge is super fast, Cortana is pretty cool and I actually like most of the universal apps. I don't like the new twitter app, too much whitespace but the mail app is pretty nice.

    I wrote some apps for Windows phone before and I'm now moving to the universal app platform and it's amazing so far, haven't published a new app yet but it has potential.

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