I thought we agreed that we're both beyond interventions.
Well, yeah, but it's just so tough to stand aside and do nothing...
But hey, you buy your 670s. I've probably spent as much or more on server shit and hard drives in the last couple of months. If anyone points it out to us, we'll just use the other as our excuse.
I have a rather uncommon problem. The wired connection available in my dorm is significantly worse than the wireless available
So I'm thinking about getting a wireless card for my desktop with the following caveats.
- It needs to support 5 GHz to use the wireless-n network here ( the 2.4GHz network is g only )
- There needs to be decent linux drivers since that's where I spend most of my time working.
I don't really know anything about wireless adapters, does anyone have any suggestions for what I should be looking for?
Did some shopping today. Picked up a second GTX 670. Because, hey, when you're crazy, you might as well be full-crazy.
Also grabbed an ITX motherboard. Hopefully by the time that BitFenix Prodigy is available to order, I'll have all my parts together. So far I've got the motherboard, 8 gigs of RAM, a 2tb hard drive, a spare optical drive, and I'll probably put in either a 6950 or a 560 that I have laying around. I just need to pick up a PSU, a CPU (probably one of Microcenter's cheapass i5 deals), and a small SSD.
Man, watching you put together this thing is totally going to end with me spending way too much money on a 2nd small computer. I had grand designs for buying a cheap case and putting my old E8400/560 Ti in it, but now I'm thinking of going full hog i5/670 yet again.
It's going to be so much fun to put this thing together. I can't wait. Looking forward to gaming on a 46" screen, too. With better-than-console graphics, that is.
You have problems. You're on the Diablo loot-treadmill of PC-building experiences. I feel like we should have some kind of intervention.
I guess I should go through my Steam games. There's only a limited number of games I can think of on there I'd even being willing to play on a game-pad, but if I find enough, or get a real desire to get my emulator on, maybe I'll have to put together a badder HTPC then I was first planning on.
As for the Prodigy, as interesting as it is, Anandtech reviewed it and noted that it can be kind of a pain in the ass to build in, and that you have to be very careful about the PSU you use, because if it's more than 140mm long (I believe that's the number they mentioned) and modular, you may or may not be able to get it to fit in the allotted area.
The mobo is mounted face up so its always going to be a PITA to build in a case that doesn't have a removable top. Its a ITX case so cable management and routing again will be a PITA.
As for the PSU thing so far all the euro guys that have gotten their hands on one haven't had a complaint with the usual brands of PSUs fitting.
Did some shopping today. Picked up a second GTX 670. Because, hey, when you're crazy, you might as well be full-crazy.
Also grabbed an ITX motherboard. Hopefully by the time that BitFenix Prodigy is available to order, I'll have all my parts together. So far I've got the motherboard, 8 gigs of RAM, a 2tb hard drive, a spare optical drive, and I'll probably put in either a 6950 or a 560 that I have laying around. I just need to pick up a PSU, a CPU (probably one of Microcenter's cheapass i5 deals), and a small SSD.
Man, watching you put together this thing is totally going to end with me spending way too much money on a 2nd small computer. I had grand designs for buying a cheap case and putting my old E8400/560 Ti in it, but now I'm thinking of going full hog i5/670 yet again.
It's going to be so much fun to put this thing together. I can't wait. Looking forward to gaming on a 46" screen, too. With better-than-console graphics, that is.
You have problems. You're on the Diablo loot-treadmill of PC-building experiences. I feel like we should have some kind of intervention.
I guess I should go through my Steam games. There's only a limited number of games I can think of on there I'd even being willing to play on a game-pad, but if I find enough, or get a real desire to get my emulator on, maybe I'll have to put together a badder HTPC then I was first planning on.
As for the Prodigy, as interesting as it is, Anandtech reviewed it and noted that it can be kind of a pain in the ass to build in, and that you have to be very careful about the PSU you use, because if it's more than 140mm long (I believe that's the number they mentioned) and modular, you may or may not be able to get it to fit in the allotted area.
The mobo is mounted face up so its always going to be a PITA to build in a case that doesn't have a removable top. Its a ITX case so cable management and routing again will be a PITA.
As for the PSU thing so far all the euro guys that have gotten their hands on one haven't had a complaint with the usual brands of PSUs fitting.
That's great, but brand is basically immaterial, the issue is length, and then modular connectors creating fitment issues.
Not that it's not still a fun case, but I'm less enthused about it after reading more.
My friend wants help building a rig for heavy Maya and Photoshop about 1k budget.
Thinking Asus Z77, i7 and a 7870, We'll sit down and figure out the case, psu and such... should he get 16g of RAM or is 8 enough? Also anyone have a better suggestion for those core parts? Also, I'm suggesting AMD over NVIDIA for the computing power that I've seen the reviews are better than the two newest GTX cards, is this wise?
Any thoughts on the parts/graphics card?
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And hey, I only bought two. And I'm gonna sell off an old card. I promise.
Maybe.
Unless I can use it in something else...
Wait. You're building a mini-atx computer with (two) GTX 670's to game on a television?
This sounds like a goddamn fantastic idea.
Haha, noooooo. The dual 670s are in my gaming machine at my desk. The eventual living room machine will have either an HD 6950, or a GTX 560. Either of which should handle tv gaming pretty smoothly.
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And hey, I only bought two. And I'm gonna sell off an old card. I promise.
Maybe.
Unless I can use it in something else...
Wait. You're building a mini-atx computer with (two) GTX 670's to game on a television?
This sounds like a goddamn fantastic idea.
Haha, noooooo. The dual 670s are in my gaming machine at my desk. The eventual living room machine will have either an HD 6959, or a GTX 560. Either of which should handle tv gaming pretty smoothly.
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What I've selected here has a bundle offer that gets an extra $30 off that's not listed there. So the total with the case (looks like one that I can paint up real well, I think?) and me using my GTX 560 until an upgrade there is affordable and needed would be $590.95 plus shipping, assuming going through Newegg all the way at least for now.
Is there a reason why I would absolutely not want to do either one of these builds? Thanks folks!
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What I've selected here has a bundle offer that gets an extra $30 off that's not listed there. So the total with the case (looks like one that I can paint up real well, I think?) and me using my GTX 560 until an upgrade there is affordable and needed would be $590.95 plus shipping, assuming going through Newegg all the way at least for now.
Is there a reason why I would absolutely not want to do either one of these builds? Thanks folks!
Can see kingmetal's, but not yours, and will reserve judgment till I know what the hell you're talking about.
What I've selected here has a bundle offer that gets an extra $30 off that's not listed there. So the total with the case (looks like one that I can paint up real well, I think?) and me using my GTX 560 until an upgrade there is affordable and needed would be $590.95 plus shipping, assuming going through Newegg all the way at least for now.
Is there a reason why I would absolutely not want to do either one of these builds? Thanks folks!
Can see kingmetal's, but not yours, and will reserve judgment till I know what the hell you're talking about.
Well, I've clicked the make public box with the wish list selected and the check box under "shared" is there, but it's not showing up in the public list or giving me a publick wish list link so if my haxxoring of the url http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=14699629 isn't working, then I don't know what to do. I'll list everything if that link doesn't work for everyone.
Ok so I got a new ssd and hd but they didn't come with any cables or screws to mount them.
Is there any specific cable I need to for each or is a sata cable alright for both? I only have Sata 3.0 gb/s ports.
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Basically any SATA cables will do fine. You probably got a baggie full of them with your motherboard. It might have even come with some hard drive screws for your drive bays. Although, I prefer to use Velcro for attaching SSDs.
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I'm going to be using this for 3D animation as well as heavy gaming. I'm planning on upgrading the Ram and maybe dropping a SSD into it in a couple of paychecks.
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The 750watt PSU is a bit overkill on your build as listed, unless you're leaving some headroom for adding a second video card down the road. In which case, it's spot-on. Otherwise, everything looks pretty good to me.
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The 750watt PSU is a bit overkill on your build as listed, unless you're leaving some headroom for adding a second video card down the road. In which case, it's spot-on. Otherwise, everything looks pretty good to me.
Thanks for the quick reply. Would it be safe to put a 680 in there? I was thinking this one Clicky It says "SLI Support Card" can it work by itself or does it need a second card?
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The 750watt PSU is a bit overkill on your build as listed, unless you're leaving some headroom for adding a second video card down the road. In which case, it's spot-on. Otherwise, everything looks pretty good to me.
Thanks for the quick reply. Would it be safe to put a 680 in there? I was thinking this one Clicky It says "SLI Support Card" can it work by itself or does it need a second card?
It'd be fine. SLI support just means that you CAN pair it up with a second (and a third...) card for better performance. A 500watt PSU is fine for a 670. I think it would work fine for a 680 as well, but you could always up it to a 550/600watt PSU to be on the safe side. Then up that by about another 250-ish watts if you plan to add a second card.
All things considered, though, the 670 represents a much better performance for price ratio than the 680. It's within just a few FPS of the 680 on pretty much every benchmark I've seen, and it's roughly $100 cheaper.
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The 750watt PSU is a bit overkill on your build as listed, unless you're leaving some headroom for adding a second video card down the road. In which case, it's spot-on. Otherwise, everything looks pretty good to me.
Thanks for the quick reply. Would it be safe to put a 680 in there? I was thinking this one Clicky It says "SLI Support Card" can it work by itself or does it need a second card?
It'd be fine. SLI support just means that you CAN pair it up with a second (and a third...) card for better performance. A 500watt PSU is fine for a 670. I think it would work fine for a 680 as well, but you could always up it to a 550/600watt PSU to be on the safe side. Then up that by about another 250-ish watts if you plan to add a second card.
All things considered, though, the 670 represents a much better performance for price ratio than the 680. It's within just a few FPS of the 680 on pretty much every benchmark I've seen, and it's roughly $100 cheaper.
Ok thanks for the help, I think I'll go with the 670 in that case.
What I've selected here has a bundle offer that gets an extra $30 off that's not listed there. So the total with the case (looks like one that I can paint up real well, I think?) and me using my GTX 560 until an upgrade there is affordable and needed would be $590.95 plus shipping, assuming going through Newegg all the way at least for now.
Is there a reason why I would absolutely not want to do either one of these builds? Thanks folks!
Can see kingmetal's, but not yours, and will reserve judgment till I know what the hell you're talking about.
Well, I've clicked the make public box with the wish list selected and the check box under "shared" is there, but it's not showing up in the public list or giving me a publick wish list link so if my haxxoring of the url http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=14699629 isn't working, then I don't know what to do. I'll list everything if that link doesn't work for everyone.
(probably one of Microcenter's cheapass i5 deals), and a small SSD.
Holy balls am I glad this was not a thing when I bought the parts for my HTPC or else I'd probably have talked myself into that deal. $60 for a Z77 board, even an mATX is ridiculous.
The 750watt PSU is a bit overkill on your build as listed, unless you're leaving some headroom for adding a second video card down the road. In which case, it's spot-on. Otherwise, everything looks pretty good to me.
Except for the lack of a CPU cooler.
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What I've selected here has a bundle offer that gets an extra $30 off that's not listed there. So the total with the case (looks like one that I can paint up real well, I think?) and me using my GTX 560 until an upgrade there is affordable and needed would be $590.95 plus shipping, assuming going through Newegg all the way at least for now.
Is there a reason why I would absolutely not want to do either one of these builds? Thanks folks!
Can see kingmetal's, but not yours, and will reserve judgment till I know what the hell you're talking about.
Well, I've clicked the make public box with the wish list selected and the check box under "shared" is there, but it's not showing up in the public list or giving me a publick wish list link so if my haxxoring of the url http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=14699629 isn't working, then I don't know what to do. I'll list everything if that link doesn't work for everyone.
I like what you've done there.
As long as he's comfortable with the ModXStream, which is really more of a 500-520W PSU if they labelled it correctly, but it's not a bad unit, OCZ is just terminally incapable of rating power supplies reasonably.
My dad lost everything on his old Dell when it bit the dust in an electrical storm last fall. He now has a new machine, but he charged me with the task of getting him a good external hard drive, and I have been putting it off hoping for prices to finally recede, like the Thai flood waters, from their terrifying high points.
Anybody have any cautions about this? The European power cord is kind of odd, but I don't see any problem with it as the adapter is included, and Samsung is apparently still a pretty good storage manufacturer in spite of being bought out by Seagate from what I've heard.
My dad lost everything on his old Dell when it bit the dust in an electrical storm last fall. He now has a new machine, but he charged me with the task of getting him a good external hard drive, and I have been putting it off hoping for prices to finally recede, like the Thai flood waters, from their terrifying high points.
Anybody have any cautions about this? The European power cord is kind of odd, but I don't see any problem with it as the adapter is included, and Samsung is apparently still a pretty good storage manufacturer in spite of being bought out by Seagate from what I've heard.
Meh.
If its a 1tb or less Seagate I haven't had any issues with them, anything over 1tb and its a different story
External Seagate 1Tb I've had absolutely no issues with.
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I just bought the same external HDD. I'm of the general opinion that any HDD that works is a good HDD, and Seagate does that fairly well (despite a serious previous firmware fuckup, admittedly).
I've never actually owned a Seagate drive, and I don't know how exactly the Samsung-Seagate deal is structured, so I don't know if the current Samsung drives are Seagate-built drives that correspond to Samsung designs or whatever, so I can't really comment on how that deal affects quality. Seagate makes a very good 5900 RPM 2TB drive that I'd love to have a few of, so I have little reason to believe that Seagate would be any less reliable as a rule than a 2TB WD EARS, aside from anecdotally.
Well, I'm ready to pull the trigger on this order.
The final build will be the following(things with links are what are being purchased new):
Case - Rosewell Challenger Mid ATX
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H
CPU - Intel i5 3570K
GPU - salvaged nVidia GTX 560
PSU - OCZ ModXStream 600W
RAM - GeIL Black Dragon 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1333
HD - salvaged 128GB SSD and salvaged whatever else for data (I have lots of hard drives haha)
OS - Windows 7 Home Premium, and probably Windows 8 Preview as it's been working pretty good for me lately
Do I want to get any other cooling options, or is the stock going to be sufficient for not overclocking immediately?
Am I crazy and forgetting some cable or other small thing that will drive me crazy when it all comes and can't make it work until I order more things?
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Well, yeah, but it's just so tough to stand aside and do nothing...
But hey, you buy your 670s. I've probably spent as much or more on server shit and hard drives in the last couple of months. If anyone points it out to us, we'll just use the other as our excuse.
Deal?
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And hey, I only bought two. And I'm gonna sell off an old card. I promise.
Maybe.
Unless I can use it in something else...
So I'm thinking about getting a wireless card for my desktop with the following caveats.
- It needs to support 5 GHz to use the wireless-n network here ( the 2.4GHz network is g only )
- There needs to be decent linux drivers since that's where I spend most of my time working.
I don't really know anything about wireless adapters, does anyone have any suggestions for what I should be looking for?
The mobo is mounted face up so its always going to be a PITA to build in a case that doesn't have a removable top. Its a ITX case so cable management and routing again will be a PITA.
As for the PSU thing so far all the euro guys that have gotten their hands on one haven't had a complaint with the usual brands of PSUs fitting.
Wait. You're building a mini-atx computer with (two) GTX 670's to game on a television?
This sounds like a goddamn fantastic idea.
Not to be a party-pooper, but shouldn't a single GTX670 be able to pump framerates at 1080p that will outstrip many televisions refresh rates?
That's great, but brand is basically immaterial, the issue is length, and then modular connectors creating fitment issues.
Not that it's not still a fun case, but I'm less enthused about it after reading more.
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Any thoughts on the parts/graphics card?
Haha, noooooo. The dual 670s are in my gaming machine at my desk. The eventual living room machine will have either an HD 6950, or a GTX 560. Either of which should handle tv gaming pretty smoothly.
Baller Status: Revoked.
Well, that's a relief.
quick! spend more money, fast!
Don't think I'm not tempted!
Microcenter had 240gb Vertex 3 SSDs laying around for $180. And an i3 for $90. And then my shopping would almost be done...
I approve
I'm quoting the above wish list as a viable option, but I'm throwing this in for forum review.
What I've selected here has a bundle offer that gets an extra $30 off that's not listed there. So the total with the case (looks like one that I can paint up real well, I think?) and me using my GTX 560 until an upgrade there is affordable and needed would be $590.95 plus shipping, assuming going through Newegg all the way at least for now.
Is there a reason why I would absolutely not want to do either one of these builds? Thanks folks!
Living near a Microcenter has been the worst thing to happen to my wallet. Ever.
Can see kingmetal's, but not yours, and will reserve judgment till I know what the hell you're talking about.
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Well, I've clicked the make public box with the wish list selected and the check box under "shared" is there, but it's not showing up in the public list or giving me a publick wish list link so if my haxxoring of the url http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=14699629 isn't working, then I don't know what to do. I'll list everything if that link doesn't work for everyone.
Is there any specific cable I need to for each or is a sata cable alright for both? I only have Sata 3.0 gb/s ports.
Brilliant. I will now be buying Velcro.
Are there any special sorts of screws I need to mount a regular HD? The velcro is a good idea for the SSD as it doesn't matter what way it sits right?
Yep, the SSD can mount in any direction.
For the screws: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=-1&isNodeId=1&Description=Hard+drive+screws&x=0&y=0
Or, if you have a local computer store, you can probably grab a bunch of em there.
CPU: Intel Core i7 2600k
GPU: Nvidia GTX 670
Power Supply: NZXT Hale 750W
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4
Ram: G.Skill Ripjaw 8GB (4GBx2)
Hard Drive: 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3
Case: NZXT Gama Classic Series
DVD Drive: Lite-On CD/DVD Burner
Os: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
I'm going to be using this for 3D animation as well as heavy gaming. I'm planning on upgrading the Ram and maybe dropping a SSD into it in a couple of paychecks.
Thanks for the quick reply. Would it be safe to put a 680 in there? I was thinking this one Clicky It says "SLI Support Card" can it work by itself or does it need a second card?
It'd be fine. SLI support just means that you CAN pair it up with a second (and a third...) card for better performance. A 500watt PSU is fine for a 670. I think it would work fine for a 680 as well, but you could always up it to a 550/600watt PSU to be on the safe side. Then up that by about another 250-ish watts if you plan to add a second card.
All things considered, though, the 670 represents a much better performance for price ratio than the 680. It's within just a few FPS of the 680 on pretty much every benchmark I've seen, and it's roughly $100 cheaper.
Ok thanks for the help, I think I'll go with the 670 in that case.
I like what you've done there.
Holy balls am I glad this was not a thing when I bought the parts for my HTPC or else I'd probably have talked myself into that deal. $60 for a Z77 board, even an mATX is ridiculous.
Except for the lack of a CPU cooler.
As long as he's comfortable with the ModXStream, which is really more of a 500-520W PSU if they labelled it correctly, but it's not a bad unit, OCZ is just terminally incapable of rating power supplies reasonably.
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Anybody have any cautions about this? The European power cord is kind of odd, but I don't see any problem with it as the adapter is included, and Samsung is apparently still a pretty good storage manufacturer in spite of being bought out by Seagate from what I've heard.
Meh.
If its a 1tb or less Seagate I haven't had any issues with them, anything over 1tb and its a different story
I've never actually owned a Seagate drive, and I don't know how exactly the Samsung-Seagate deal is structured, so I don't know if the current Samsung drives are Seagate-built drives that correspond to Samsung designs or whatever, so I can't really comment on how that deal affects quality. Seagate makes a very good 5900 RPM 2TB drive that I'd love to have a few of, so I have little reason to believe that Seagate would be any less reliable as a rule than a 2TB WD EARS, aside from anecdotally.
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The final build will be the following(things with links are what are being purchased new):
Case - Rosewell Challenger Mid ATX
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H
CPU - Intel i5 3570K
GPU - salvaged nVidia GTX 560
PSU - OCZ ModXStream 600W
RAM - GeIL Black Dragon 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1333
HD - salvaged 128GB SSD and salvaged whatever else for data (I have lots of hard drives haha)
OS - Windows 7 Home Premium, and probably Windows 8 Preview as it's been working pretty good for me lately
Do I want to get any other cooling options, or is the stock going to be sufficient for not overclocking immediately?
Am I crazy and forgetting some cable or other small thing that will drive me crazy when it all comes and can't make it work until I order more things?