AlectharAlan ShoreWe're not territorial about that sort of thing, are we?Registered Userregular
No OC = No need for fancy cooling. It might save you time later on, in that you won't have to clean off the old crap, put on the new crap, install it, etc, but that's a judgment call on your part.
Well, I'm ready to pull the trigger on this order.
The final build will be the following(things with links are what are being purchased new):
Case - Rosewell Challenger Mid ATX
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H
CPU - Intel i5 3570K
GPU - salvaged nVidia GTX 560
PSU - OCZ ModXStream 600W
RAM - GeIL Black Dragon 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1333
HD - salvaged 128GB SSD and salvaged whatever else for data (I have lots of hard drives haha)
OS - Windows 7 Home Premium, and probably Windows 8 Preview as it's been working pretty good for me lately
Do I want to get any other cooling options, or is the stock going to be sufficient for not overclocking immediately?
Am I crazy and forgetting some cable or other small thing that will drive me crazy when it all comes and can't make it work until I order more things?
I'm going to wait until later tonight or possibly tomorrow to put this order in, so last call for advice and discussion.
I am an idiot. This is what having a monitor with silly little touch control spots instead of real buttons for three years will do to you.
I thought my brand new Asus 24" LED monitor was DOA because it wouldn't power on. I kept swiping at the indicator light for the power control thinking it was the touch-spot to actually turn the damn thing on and off like on my old Acer.
It was 15 minutes before I ran my hand along the bottom edge of the thing and found the actual physical buttons. In this day and age! Who would have guessed?
I am an idiot. This is what having a monitor with silly little touch control spots instead of real buttons for three years will do to you.
I thought my brand new Asus 24" LED monitor was DOA because it wouldn't power on. I kept swiping at the indicator light for the power control thinking it was the touch-spot to actually turn the damn thing on and off like on my old Acer.
It was 15 minutes before I ran my hand along the bottom edge of the thing and found the actual physical buttons. In this day and age! Who would have guessed?
I fucking hate those buttons. Every time my cat takes a stroll on my desk, shit gets pressed. Every time anything flies in that direction, shit gets pressed.
Why have real buttons disappeared?
I actually don't have a strong opinion on one versus the other. Just got so used to the touch controls I literally never even considered that the new monitor might have real buttons.
In my defense, the buttons are on the bottom rim of the display, and are totally invisible from pretty much any angle unless you were somehow underneath the thing.
I fucking hate those buttons. Every time my cat takes a stroll on my desk, shit gets pressed. Every time anything flies in that direction, shit gets pressed.
Why have real buttons disappeared?
Thankfully my Dell Ultrasharp maintains a real ass button for the power, and only a very small area is touch active until you press it to open the menu, then the whole thing lights up, or I'd have the exact same problem as you.
Well, I'm ready to pull the trigger on this order.
The final build will be the following(things with links are what are being purchased new):
Case - Rosewell Challenger Mid ATX
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H
CPU - Intel i5 3570K
GPU - salvaged nVidia GTX 560
PSU - OCZ ModXStream 600W
RAM - GeIL Black Dragon 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1333
HD - salvaged 128GB SSD and salvaged whatever else for data (I have lots of hard drives haha)
OS - Windows 7 Home Premium, and probably Windows 8 Preview as it's been working pretty good for me lately
Do I want to get any other cooling options, or is the stock going to be sufficient for not overclocking immediately?
Am I crazy and forgetting some cable or other small thing that will drive me crazy when it all comes and can't make it work until I order more things?
CPU cooler for one, second I'd consider stepping up to that samsung 1600 ram that was posted a few pages back, and third I would HIGHLY recommend you plan on budgeting for 3 new fans. The ones that come with the challenger work and are quiet but they are terribad. The 140mm I got barely moved any air, the rear exhaust was running at around 75% of what it should, and the front intake was perfect. 2/3 fans didn't work and I had a burned out LED (which actually was awesome).
Not worth spending $15 to RMA the case so all I did was order 4 new fans for $25 and I'm replacing everything to give the case a much better airflow.
Or better yet wait a little bit till newegg runs the $15 gift card with a 3570k purchase and then pull the trigger on that combo and get 45$ off.
Your case isn't a USB 3.0 front panel, so you may want to consider changing that to a Challenger V3 unless your just buying it for the sale price (theres a promo code for it if you want it). I'd consider switching your case to something with a USB front IO panel even if it had less fans included and use that $30 I saved you with the combo to get some decent fans for cooling.
I fucking hate those buttons. Every time my cat takes a stroll on my desk, shit gets pressed. Every time anything flies in that direction, shit gets pressed.
Why have real buttons disappeared?
Since I replaced my OG dead Xbox with one of those new slim models (with touch buttons on the face), I can't even tell you how many times my dog has ruined my game by ejecting the disc when he wanders by and sniffs the Xbox.
Fuck those touch sensitive buttons.
Everything looks beautiful when you're young and pretty
I fucking hate those buttons. Every time my cat takes a stroll on my desk, shit gets pressed. Every time anything flies in that direction, shit gets pressed.
Why have real buttons disappeared?
Since I replaced my OG dead Xbox with one of those new slim models (with touch buttons on the face), I can't even tell you how many times my dog has ruined my game by ejecting the disc when he wanders by and sniffs the Xbox.
Fuck those touch sensitive buttons.
Reason #3 my xbox is off the floor and out of normal reach of animals.
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I fucking hate those buttons. Every time my cat takes a stroll on my desk, shit gets pressed. Every time anything flies in that direction, shit gets pressed.
Why have real buttons disappeared?
Since I replaced my OG dead Xbox with one of those new slim models (with touch buttons on the face), I can't even tell you how many times my dog has ruined my game by ejecting the disc when he wanders by and sniffs the Xbox.
Fuck those touch sensitive buttons.
Reason #3 my xbox is off the floor and out of normal reach of animals.
There are few areas in an television credenza that are unreachable to a 65 pound pit bull who really wants to smell what's going on. =[
Everything looks beautiful when you're young and pretty
spectres came in today! stuck two on the front and two on the top and repurposed my case's stock fans for rear exhaust and side intake
man they are so goddamn quiet. my computer isn't so much as a whisper louder than it was before, i love it
Fucker mine don't come in till tomorrow.
Did you do a temp check before and after to see if your seeing any difference?
Now that your liking those fans its time to put the Spectre Pros on your wishlist, they push more air and are quieter.
yeah the spectres dropped my temps by a few notches. i'm down to 30 C at idle, compared to 35-36 with just stock cooling. i need to re-run prime95 again and check my temps under load, but i can't imagine that they wouldn't be superior to my prior temps which were around... 55 C or so? i don't remember exactly haha. they were higher than i'd like!
spectres came in today! stuck two on the front and two on the top and repurposed my case's stock fans for rear exhaust and side intake
man they are so goddamn quiet. my computer isn't so much as a whisper louder than it was before, i love it
Fucker mine don't come in till tomorrow.
Did you do a temp check before and after to see if your seeing any difference?
Now that your liking those fans its time to put the Spectre Pros on your wishlist, they push more air and are quieter.
yeah the spectres dropped my temps by a few notches. i'm down to 30 C at idle, compared to 35-36 with just stock cooling. i need to re-run prime95 again and check my temps under load, but i can't imagine that they wouldn't be superior to my prior temps which were around... 55 C or so? i don't remember exactly haha. they were higher than i'd like!
Like I've said before, its worth investing in some decent fans. Even at $5-$7 a fan they fall into the "cheap" category but they really do perform for that price. The snobs will tell you that you'd be better with this brand or that brand or you wasted your money because they only push 50cfm at under 20db but when you get down to it its a damn good value for what you get.
spectres came in today! stuck two on the front and two on the top and repurposed my case's stock fans for rear exhaust and side intake
man they are so goddamn quiet. my computer isn't so much as a whisper louder than it was before, i love it
Fucker mine don't come in till tomorrow.
Did you do a temp check before and after to see if your seeing any difference?
Now that your liking those fans its time to put the Spectre Pros on your wishlist, they push more air and are quieter.
yeah the spectres dropped my temps by a few notches. i'm down to 30 C at idle, compared to 35-36 with just stock cooling. i need to re-run prime95 again and check my temps under load, but i can't imagine that they wouldn't be superior to my prior temps which were around... 55 C or so? i don't remember exactly haha. they were higher than i'd like!
Like I've said before, its worth investing in some decent fans. Even at $5-$7 a fan they fall into the "cheap" category but they really do perform for that price. The snobs will tell you that you'd be better with this brand or that brand or you wasted your money because they only push 50cfm at under 20db but when you get down to it its a damn good value for what you get.
i don't regret this purchase one bit! i'm only OCed a little bit, i'm not trying to break any world records, but for $25 i'd say that they were a worthy investment. i've spent $25 on lunches that i've felt worse about in retrospect
i'm planning on a CPU upgrade in a couple months once i get some more disposable income and i have one of these waiting in the wings. when i slap that sucker on i'll start stressing it more. it's exciting, the last time i did this shit people still used SCSI cables and IDE drives and anything more than 512MB of memory was bleeding edge
spectres came in today! stuck two on the front and two on the top and repurposed my case's stock fans for rear exhaust and side intake
man they are so goddamn quiet. my computer isn't so much as a whisper louder than it was before, i love it
Fucker mine don't come in till tomorrow.
Did you do a temp check before and after to see if your seeing any difference?
Now that your liking those fans its time to put the Spectre Pros on your wishlist, they push more air and are quieter.
yeah the spectres dropped my temps by a few notches. i'm down to 30 C at idle, compared to 35-36 with just stock cooling. i need to re-run prime95 again and check my temps under load, but i can't imagine that they wouldn't be superior to my prior temps which were around... 55 C or so? i don't remember exactly haha. they were higher than i'd like!
Like I've said before, its worth investing in some decent fans. Even at $5-$7 a fan they fall into the "cheap" category but they really do perform for that price. The snobs will tell you that you'd be better with this brand or that brand or you wasted your money because they only push 50cfm at under 20db but when you get down to it its a damn good value for what you get.
i don't regret this purchase one bit! i'm only OCed a little bit, i'm not trying to break any world records, but for $25 i'd say that they were a worthy investment. i've spent $25 on lunches that i've felt worse about in retrospect
i'm planning on a CPU upgrade in a couple months once i get some more disposable income and i have one of these waiting in the wings. when i slap that sucker on i'll start stressing it more. it's exciting, the last time i did this shit people still used SCSI cables and IDE drives and anything more than 512MB of memory was bleeding edge
What are you hooking it on? 2500k?
Because your going to want to clearances on your RAM, and if you haven't bought one already you may want to ask what $50 cooler is better then that...because there are a few nice options in that range that give you a bit better performance. Or if you already have one you may want to test it out and then if your not happy take some suggestions on what fans to replace the one on there.
Not to mention if your doing it in a "few months" you might as well wait for black friday and get more bang for your buck.
spectres came in today! stuck two on the front and two on the top and repurposed my case's stock fans for rear exhaust and side intake
man they are so goddamn quiet. my computer isn't so much as a whisper louder than it was before, i love it
Fucker mine don't come in till tomorrow.
Did you do a temp check before and after to see if your seeing any difference?
Now that your liking those fans its time to put the Spectre Pros on your wishlist, they push more air and are quieter.
yeah the spectres dropped my temps by a few notches. i'm down to 30 C at idle, compared to 35-36 with just stock cooling. i need to re-run prime95 again and check my temps under load, but i can't imagine that they wouldn't be superior to my prior temps which were around... 55 C or so? i don't remember exactly haha. they were higher than i'd like!
Like I've said before, its worth investing in some decent fans. Even at $5-$7 a fan they fall into the "cheap" category but they really do perform for that price. The snobs will tell you that you'd be better with this brand or that brand or you wasted your money because they only push 50cfm at under 20db but when you get down to it its a damn good value for what you get.
i don't regret this purchase one bit! i'm only OCed a little bit, i'm not trying to break any world records, but for $25 i'd say that they were a worthy investment. i've spent $25 on lunches that i've felt worse about in retrospect
i'm planning on a CPU upgrade in a couple months once i get some more disposable income and i have one of these waiting in the wings. when i slap that sucker on i'll start stressing it more. it's exciting, the last time i did this shit people still used SCSI cables and IDE drives and anything more than 512MB of memory was bleeding edge
What are you hooking it on? 2500k?
Because your going to want to clearances on your RAM, and if you haven't bought one already you may want to ask what $50 cooler is better then that...because there are a few nice options in that range that give you a bit better performance. Or if you already have one you may want to test it out and then if your not happy take some suggestions on what fans to replace the one on there.
Not to mention if your doing it in a "few months" you might as well wait for black friday and get more bang for your buck.
currently i'm just running an i3-2120 with the stock intel cooler that's serving me well; the coolermaster is a well-maintained hand me down from a relative who switched to water cooling, so it didn't cost me a cent
when i do upgrade it'll probably be to a 2500k... or maybe an i7, but probably not. what's in the $50-$80 range that's superior? i don't know jack about current CPU coolers
spectres came in today! stuck two on the front and two on the top and repurposed my case's stock fans for rear exhaust and side intake
man they are so goddamn quiet. my computer isn't so much as a whisper louder than it was before, i love it
Fucker mine don't come in till tomorrow.
Did you do a temp check before and after to see if your seeing any difference?
Now that your liking those fans its time to put the Spectre Pros on your wishlist, they push more air and are quieter.
yeah the spectres dropped my temps by a few notches. i'm down to 30 C at idle, compared to 35-36 with just stock cooling. i need to re-run prime95 again and check my temps under load, but i can't imagine that they wouldn't be superior to my prior temps which were around... 55 C or so? i don't remember exactly haha. they were higher than i'd like!
Like I've said before, its worth investing in some decent fans. Even at $5-$7 a fan they fall into the "cheap" category but they really do perform for that price. The snobs will tell you that you'd be better with this brand or that brand or you wasted your money because they only push 50cfm at under 20db but when you get down to it its a damn good value for what you get.
i don't regret this purchase one bit! i'm only OCed a little bit, i'm not trying to break any world records, but for $25 i'd say that they were a worthy investment. i've spent $25 on lunches that i've felt worse about in retrospect
i'm planning on a CPU upgrade in a couple months once i get some more disposable income and i have one of these waiting in the wings. when i slap that sucker on i'll start stressing it more. it's exciting, the last time i did this shit people still used SCSI cables and IDE drives and anything more than 512MB of memory was bleeding edge
What are you hooking it on? 2500k?
Because your going to want to clearances on your RAM, and if you haven't bought one already you may want to ask what $50 cooler is better then that...because there are a few nice options in that range that give you a bit better performance. Or if you already have one you may want to test it out and then if your not happy take some suggestions on what fans to replace the one on there.
Not to mention if your doing it in a "few months" you might as well wait for black friday and get more bang for your buck.
currently i'm just running an i3-2120 with the stock intel cooler that's serving me well; the coolermaster is a well-maintained hand me down from a relative who switched to water cooling, so it didn't cost me a cent
when i do upgrade it'll probably be to a 2500k... or maybe an i7, but probably not. what's in the $50-$80 range that's superior? i don't know jack about current CPU coolers
If it was free then don't worry about it, check the fit with the new processor and slap some quality thermal paste on it and call it a day.
spectres came in today! stuck two on the front and two on the top and repurposed my case's stock fans for rear exhaust and side intake
man they are so goddamn quiet. my computer isn't so much as a whisper louder than it was before, i love it
Fucker mine don't come in till tomorrow.
Did you do a temp check before and after to see if your seeing any difference?
Now that your liking those fans its time to put the Spectre Pros on your wishlist, they push more air and are quieter.
yeah the spectres dropped my temps by a few notches. i'm down to 30 C at idle, compared to 35-36 with just stock cooling. i need to re-run prime95 again and check my temps under load, but i can't imagine that they wouldn't be superior to my prior temps which were around... 55 C or so? i don't remember exactly haha. they were higher than i'd like!
Like I've said before, its worth investing in some decent fans. Even at $5-$7 a fan they fall into the "cheap" category but they really do perform for that price. The snobs will tell you that you'd be better with this brand or that brand or you wasted your money because they only push 50cfm at under 20db but when you get down to it its a damn good value for what you get.
i don't regret this purchase one bit! i'm only OCed a little bit, i'm not trying to break any world records, but for $25 i'd say that they were a worthy investment. i've spent $25 on lunches that i've felt worse about in retrospect
i'm planning on a CPU upgrade in a couple months once i get some more disposable income and i have one of these waiting in the wings. when i slap that sucker on i'll start stressing it more. it's exciting, the last time i did this shit people still used SCSI cables and IDE drives and anything more than 512MB of memory was bleeding edge
What are you hooking it on? 2500k?
Because your going to want to clearances on your RAM, and if you haven't bought one already you may want to ask what $50 cooler is better then that...because there are a few nice options in that range that give you a bit better performance. Or if you already have one you may want to test it out and then if your not happy take some suggestions on what fans to replace the one on there.
Not to mention if your doing it in a "few months" you might as well wait for black friday and get more bang for your buck.
currently i'm just running an i3-2120 with the stock intel cooler that's serving me well; the coolermaster is a well-maintained hand me down from a relative who switched to water cooling, so it didn't cost me a cent
when i do upgrade it'll probably be to a 2500k... or maybe an i7, but probably not. what's in the $50-$80 range that's superior? i don't know jack about current CPU coolers
If it was free then don't worry about it, check the fit with the new processor and slap some quality thermal paste on it and call it a day.
I don't know how things stand these days but in the old days Maya had lots of rendering glitches with 3d cards that weren't workstation 3d cards if you wanted to turn on any fancy viewport stuff. If you don't want to turn on fancy viewport stuff, your 3d card doesn't really matter: anything's basically good enough for PS and Maya will run fine on either of those (again, as long as there are no glitches). nVidia drivers are typically much better for this sort of thing though.
The Intel RST utility was crashing every time it loaded, so I uninstalled it. It did whatever it needed to do and then gave me a wall of text readme at the end that probably explained many important things but I neglected to read it. Was about to restart to reinstall the latest version of RST, but I decided to check on the hard drive controller drivers. Noticed that they were Microsoft versions, thought that was a bad idea and manually installed the RST diskette drivers. Rebooted.
Windows came back up and said that it needed to run CHKDSK on my RAID (this is the pre-boot blackscreen CHKDSK thing). I let it do its thing. It proceeded to delete 28,000 files from my RAID in about 5 minutes. This seemed bad to me. Windows booted and claimed it couldn't access my user profile (it lives on the RAID).
Rebooted, realized that the RST driver had switched my SATA controller back to AHCI (DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS A THING). Switched the controller back to RAID. It wanted to run CHKDSK again. IT continued to delete files. Still couldn't log in. No viable user accounts, dead in the water.
Booted off the Windows CD and ran CHKDSK at the command prompt on the RAID. It RESTORED all 28,000 of my files. Thought I may have achieved victory. Booted into Windows and got the same error. Could see the files on my disk in Recovery mode, everything was there.
Tried a million things that I won't go into. Couldn't get into regular Safe Mode (also, computer boots too fast to get into safe mode any other way than just cutting the power before the Windows login screen, silly). Was finally able to get the thing to boot into Command Prompt Safe Mode, ran net user /add and made a new user account. Booted into the recovery account, installed RST, it said it needed to "Initialize" my RAID, which apparently isn't as scary as it sounds (Intel: in regular Windows, Initialize means a bad thing for data). It did that, and I let it. I backed up all my data on the RAID (which was totally accessable BTW).
Woke up this morning, intialization done, rebooted -- same error.
Got into the registry, found this awesome article: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947215 , edited my user profile (which had been .bak'd in the registry... weird). Reset the State to 0 and now I'm back in.
So the moral of the story is: don't do anything.
EDIT: one strange thing I just spent most of the morning chasing down: Security Essentials was borked when my profile came back up. Uninstalled it, and got an error on reinstall. Googled and googled and tried manually removing MSE a million times. Finally realized I hadn't tried right-clicking it and running it "as Administrator" which I absolutely should not need to do. That fixed it. This makes me nervous.
So I ordered a bunch of stuff. It will arrive from Amazon and Newegg next week. Yay! I plan to paint the case for fun too ( I am NOT an artist), so I'll post pictures and updates if anyone is so interested.
Thanks for the help everyone, I took everyone's input into consideration before making final decisions.
UPS man drops fans off
Get excited
Remove old fans from case
Start opening boxes
Realize that last week you gave away your molex to 3 pin multi-adapter to a buddy
Fucking facepalm
So I ordered a bunch of stuff. It will arrive from Amazon and Newegg next week. Yay! I plan to paint the case for fun too ( I am NOT an artist), so I'll post pictures and updates if anyone is so interested.
Thanks for the help everyone, I took everyone's input into consideration before making final decisions.
Did you get everything that you listed before? DETAILS MAN! We live vivcariously through our own.
Case - Rosewell Challenger-U3 ATX Mid Tower
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H
CPU - Intel i5 3570K
GPU - salvaged nVidia GTX 560
PSU - OCZ ModXStream 600W
RAM - Samsung 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 1600
HD - salvaged 120GB SSD and salvaged whatever else for data (I have lots of hard drives haha)
OS - Windows 7 Home Premium, and probably Windows 8 Preview as it's been working pretty good for me lately
Primary Monitor - HP ZR30w
I also added on some extra case fans, and I will purchase some spray paint and masking tape for the personalization. I also took the above advice and just went ahead and got the after-market CPU cooler. Hopefully it fits in the case. Worst case scenario, I exchange the case, or just use my oversized one I currently have.
I'm excited. Spending money on electronics does that to me though.
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I keep having to tell myself that I need to wait a bit longer before kicking off a Bitfenix Prodigy build. Perhaps six weeks.
...and when you are done with that; take a folding
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
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Do you really need 16GB of RAM, though?
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e: 32, not 64, duh.
Really, the only hard drives Ive had trouble with were Maxtor drives. God those sucked. And then Seagate bought them.
I'm going to wait until later tonight or possibly tomorrow to put this order in, so last call for advice and discussion.
I thought my brand new Asus 24" LED monitor was DOA because it wouldn't power on. I kept swiping at the indicator light for the power control thinking it was the touch-spot to actually turn the damn thing on and off like on my old Acer.
It was 15 minutes before I ran my hand along the bottom edge of the thing and found the actual physical buttons. In this day and age! Who would have guessed?
I'd just like to say, this is freaking hilarious.
A+ Posts there.
Though, I don't really like those touch activated monitor controls since I always end up pressing the wrong stuff and then it all goes pear shaped.
Why have real buttons disappeared?
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In my defense, the buttons are on the bottom rim of the display, and are totally invisible from pretty much any angle unless you were somehow underneath the thing.
Thankfully my Dell Ultrasharp maintains a real ass button for the power, and only a very small area is touch active until you press it to open the menu, then the whole thing lights up, or I'd have the exact same problem as you.
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CPU cooler for one, second I'd consider stepping up to that samsung 1600 ram that was posted a few pages back, and third I would HIGHLY recommend you plan on budgeting for 3 new fans. The ones that come with the challenger work and are quiet but they are terribad. The 140mm I got barely moved any air, the rear exhaust was running at around 75% of what it should, and the front intake was perfect. 2/3 fans didn't work and I had a burned out LED (which actually was awesome).
Not worth spending $15 to RMA the case so all I did was order 4 new fans for $25 and I'm replacing everything to give the case a much better airflow.
Also save yourself $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.951181
Or better yet wait a little bit till newegg runs the $15 gift card with a 3570k purchase and then pull the trigger on that combo and get 45$ off.
Your case isn't a USB 3.0 front panel, so you may want to consider changing that to a Challenger V3 unless your just buying it for the sale price (theres a promo code for it if you want it). I'd consider switching your case to something with a USB front IO panel even if it had less fans included and use that $30 I saved you with the combo to get some decent fans for cooling.
Challenger U3 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147060
Since I replaced my OG dead Xbox with one of those new slim models (with touch buttons on the face), I can't even tell you how many times my dog has ruined my game by ejecting the disc when he wanders by and sniffs the Xbox.
Fuck those touch sensitive buttons.
Reason #3 my xbox is off the floor and out of normal reach of animals.
There are few areas in an television credenza that are unreachable to a 65 pound pit bull who really wants to smell what's going on. =[
spectres came in today! stuck two on the front and two on the top and repurposed my case's stock fans for rear exhaust and side intake
man they are so goddamn quiet. my computer isn't so much as a whisper louder than it was before, i love it
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Fucker mine don't come in till tomorrow.
Did you do a temp check before and after to see if your seeing any difference?
Now that your liking those fans its time to put the Spectre Pros on your wishlist, they push more air and are quieter.
yeah the spectres dropped my temps by a few notches. i'm down to 30 C at idle, compared to 35-36 with just stock cooling. i need to re-run prime95 again and check my temps under load, but i can't imagine that they wouldn't be superior to my prior temps which were around... 55 C or so? i don't remember exactly haha. they were higher than i'd like!
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Like I've said before, its worth investing in some decent fans. Even at $5-$7 a fan they fall into the "cheap" category but they really do perform for that price. The snobs will tell you that you'd be better with this brand or that brand or you wasted your money because they only push 50cfm at under 20db but when you get down to it its a damn good value for what you get.
i don't regret this purchase one bit! i'm only OCed a little bit, i'm not trying to break any world records, but for $25 i'd say that they were a worthy investment. i've spent $25 on lunches that i've felt worse about in retrospect
i'm planning on a CPU upgrade in a couple months once i get some more disposable income and i have one of these waiting in the wings. when i slap that sucker on i'll start stressing it more. it's exciting, the last time i did this shit people still used SCSI cables and IDE drives and anything more than 512MB of memory was bleeding edge
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What are you hooking it on? 2500k?
Because your going to want to clearances on your RAM, and if you haven't bought one already you may want to ask what $50 cooler is better then that...because there are a few nice options in that range that give you a bit better performance. Or if you already have one you may want to test it out and then if your not happy take some suggestions on what fans to replace the one on there.
Not to mention if your doing it in a "few months" you might as well wait for black friday and get more bang for your buck.
currently i'm just running an i3-2120 with the stock intel cooler that's serving me well; the coolermaster is a well-maintained hand me down from a relative who switched to water cooling, so it didn't cost me a cent
when i do upgrade it'll probably be to a 2500k... or maybe an i7, but probably not. what's in the $50-$80 range that's superior? i don't know jack about current CPU coolers
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If it was free then don't worry about it, check the fit with the new processor and slap some quality thermal paste on it and call it a day.
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I am VERY interested to see what that ends up looking like.
You know... not so I can upgrade my HTPC...
Word is its supposed to be 1.5gig
http://videocardz.com/33418/geforce-gtx-660-with-1-5-gb-memory-coming-late-june?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+VideoCardzcom+(VideoCardz.com)
so says Acer
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Well that makes 2 places now thats saying that.
i'd like to do a little price/performance mental math before i get too interested
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250-300
The Intel RST utility was crashing every time it loaded, so I uninstalled it. It did whatever it needed to do and then gave me a wall of text readme at the end that probably explained many important things but I neglected to read it. Was about to restart to reinstall the latest version of RST, but I decided to check on the hard drive controller drivers. Noticed that they were Microsoft versions, thought that was a bad idea and manually installed the RST diskette drivers. Rebooted.
Windows came back up and said that it needed to run CHKDSK on my RAID (this is the pre-boot blackscreen CHKDSK thing). I let it do its thing. It proceeded to delete 28,000 files from my RAID in about 5 minutes. This seemed bad to me. Windows booted and claimed it couldn't access my user profile (it lives on the RAID).
Rebooted, realized that the RST driver had switched my SATA controller back to AHCI (DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS A THING). Switched the controller back to RAID. It wanted to run CHKDSK again. IT continued to delete files. Still couldn't log in. No viable user accounts, dead in the water.
Booted off the Windows CD and ran CHKDSK at the command prompt on the RAID. It RESTORED all 28,000 of my files. Thought I may have achieved victory. Booted into Windows and got the same error. Could see the files on my disk in Recovery mode, everything was there.
Tried a million things that I won't go into. Couldn't get into regular Safe Mode (also, computer boots too fast to get into safe mode any other way than just cutting the power before the Windows login screen, silly). Was finally able to get the thing to boot into Command Prompt Safe Mode, ran net user /add and made a new user account. Booted into the recovery account, installed RST, it said it needed to "Initialize" my RAID, which apparently isn't as scary as it sounds (Intel: in regular Windows, Initialize means a bad thing for data). It did that, and I let it. I backed up all my data on the RAID (which was totally accessable BTW).
Woke up this morning, intialization done, rebooted -- same error.
Got into the registry, found this awesome article: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947215 , edited my user profile (which had been .bak'd in the registry... weird). Reset the State to 0 and now I'm back in.
So the moral of the story is: don't do anything.
EDIT: one strange thing I just spent most of the morning chasing down: Security Essentials was borked when my profile came back up. Uninstalled it, and got an error on reinstall. Googled and googled and tried manually removing MSE a million times. Finally realized I hadn't tried right-clicking it and running it "as Administrator" which I absolutely should not need to do. That fixed it. This makes me nervous.
Thanks for the help everyone, I took everyone's input into consideration before making final decisions.
Get excited
Remove old fans from case
Start opening boxes
Realize that last week you gave away your molex to 3 pin multi-adapter to a buddy
Fucking facepalm
Did you get everything that you listed before? DETAILS MAN! We live vivcariously through our own.
Case - Rosewell Challenger-U3 ATX Mid Tower
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H
CPU - Intel i5 3570K
GPU - salvaged nVidia GTX 560
PSU - OCZ ModXStream 600W
RAM - Samsung 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 1600
HD - salvaged 120GB SSD and salvaged whatever else for data (I have lots of hard drives haha)
OS - Windows 7 Home Premium, and probably Windows 8 Preview as it's been working pretty good for me lately
Primary Monitor - HP ZR30w
I also added on some extra case fans, and I will purchase some spray paint and masking tape for the personalization. I also took the above advice and just went ahead and got the after-market CPU cooler. Hopefully it fits in the case. Worst case scenario, I exchange the case, or just use my oversized one I currently have.
I'm excited. Spending money on electronics does that to me though.
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.