Metzger MeisterIt Gets Worsebefore it gets any better.Registered Userregular
edited March 2007
No, I'm pretty sure it was a white guy. This new guy came up from AAA ball to the team and wanted the giant tubby pitcher's number, and offered him a few thousand dollars, and the guy said he'd do it for some beer and some chicken. And I think that's pretty rad.
last season when the cards were imploding and we were so close to sneaking in the playoffs and man fuck me we lost on the last game of the year, again, and fuck the next day there was this picture in the chronicle of luke scott sitting on the bench, alone, crying, and fuck that just tore my heart in two
last season when the cards were imploding and we were so close to sneaking in the playoffs and man fuck me we lost on the last game of the year, again, and fuck the next day there was this picture in the chronicle of luke scott sitting on the bench, alone, crying, and fuck that just tore my heart in two
Yeah, wasn't that against the Braves? I'm really not sure, I zoned out of baseball in late September 06.
After a dramatic last two weeks of the season, including a four game sweep of the Cardinals, the Astros did not get to the playoffs losing their last game to the Braves, 3-1. The Astros had managed to win 10 of their last 12 games of the season, and all but erased what had been an 8 1/2 game lead by the front running St. Louis Cardinals. The Astros were within a 1/2 game of the Cardinals on Thursday September 28, but that is as close as the 2005 NL Champions would get.
The Bond's thing wouldn't bother me so much if there was someone else more legit to root for. I mean I don't think there's any denying that Bonds was pretty good even before he got all big and such but yeah. If he breaks it, and they really get ahold of the HGH problem, then it might be that no one ever breaks that record again.
Who gives a fuck about Bonds? How many other players do you think have juiced? You know a shitload of pitchers have, but they're untouchable for some reason, probably because they're white. I mean look at Clemens. Fuck that guy. His "amazing workout regime" probably consists of just as many creams, clears, needles and pills as Bonds'...but Roger will never be the focus of a congressional witch hunt.
Anyone who says this knows FUCKING NOTHING about pitching. I'm serious.
A hitter relies of brute strength to achieve power. Therefore, if a hitter already has a good eye and good hand-eye coordination, then a bigger body and stronger musculature will increase power. More muscle, more power.
But a pitcher does not rely on any of this. Velocity is not generated from size, because the ball never changes weight. As a hitter, you can add weight for more force as you can handle extra weight, but a pitcher is always working with the same weight ball. Plus, a pitcher with extra bulk often means less range of motion, which will hinder a pitchers ability to throw effectively.
A pitcher on steroids is going to get worse, not better. Paxton Crawford realized this, and admitted it. He did steroids, and blew. He came off the juice, and improved.
I'm not saying pitchers shouldn't be tested, because they should be. But a pitcher who does steroids is an idiot.
different steroids have different characteristic spectra of action. certain 'anabolic' steroids are primarily anabolic in nature, but some aren't. if a steroid's primary activity is to block the catabolic effects of cortisol, you're damn straight a pitcher will see tremendous benefit from taking it.
I think it's about time the Cubs got rid of Kerry Wood.
Give him a few more months and he'll trip into a woodchipper.. or stumble onto the Dan Ryan Expway.
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Raijin QuickfootI'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited March 2007
I don't think the Yankees are going to win the East. I'm proud of my team for not throwing money around this offseason. They left that to the Red Sox who spent like fools.
The Bond's thing wouldn't bother me so much if there was someone else more legit to root for. I mean I don't think there's any denying that Bonds was pretty good even before he got all big and such but yeah. If he breaks it, and they really get ahold of the HGH problem, then it might be that no one ever breaks that record again.
Who gives a fuck about Bonds? How many other players do you think have juiced? You know a shitload of pitchers have, but they're untouchable for some reason, probably because they're white. I mean look at Clemens. Fuck that guy. His "amazing workout regime" probably consists of just as many creams, clears, needles and pills as Bonds'...but Roger will never be the focus of a congressional witch hunt.
Anyone who says this knows FUCKING NOTHING about pitching. I'm serious.
A hitter relies of brute strength to achieve power. Therefore, if a hitter already has a good eye and good hand-eye coordination, then a bigger body and stronger musculature will increase power. More muscle, more power.
But a pitcher does not rely on any of this. Velocity is not generated from size, because the ball never changes weight. As a hitter, you can add weight for more force as you can handle extra weight, but a pitcher is always working with the same weight ball. Plus, a pitcher with extra bulk often means less range of motion, which will hinder a pitchers ability to throw effectively.
A pitcher on steroids is going to get worse, not better. Paxton Crawford realized this, and admitted it. He did steroids, and blew. He came off the juice, and improved.
I'm not saying pitchers shouldn't be tested, because they should be. But a pitcher who does steroids is an idiot.
different steroids have different characteristic spectra of action. certain 'anabolic' steroids are primarily anabolic in nature, but some aren't. if a steroid's primary activity is to block the catabolic effects of cortisol, you're damn straight a pitcher will see tremendous benefit from taking it.
Also, Grimsley admitted that doing HGH sped up his recovery time after a start to the point where he could pitch every other day if need be.
Or what about the 31 of 68 minor leaguers busted being pitchers? There's 8 other position players on the field, and only 1 pitcher, yet the pitchers comprise nearly 50% of all transgressions?
If you seriously believe that juicing is for batters only, and if you even for a moment don't think that Clemens is juiced out just as much, if not more than Barry, then you are being a little daft. Yet still, it's Barry that makes the headlines ... hmmmm ... hmmmm.
And really, what about when McGwire was openly on Andro chasing the record? Oh yeah, that's right he was applauded as a hero for his "brave" denial of the drug*. So yes, Barry is an asshole. That is fairly undeniable. But you can't deny that there has been an absolutely unreasonable amount of attention paid to him and solely him, that is somehow absent when other (white) players are also chasing records, and are just as obviously juicing (I mean it was public fucking knowledge with McGwire!). So spin it how you want, but the whole Barry case is just pretty fucking dumb.
*after he had broken the record, much to America's adulation, and cemented his place in the hearts and minds of baseball fans
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Raijin QuickfootI'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited March 2007
I think the reason why pitchers are not mentioned the same was as batters is the benefits are not as obvious to the average person. Any idiot can see that bigger muscles means more homeruns. It's not that simple with pitching.
I think the reason why pitchers are not mentioned the same was as batters is the benefits are not as obvious to the average person. Any idiot can see that bigger muscles means more homeruns. It's not that simple with pitching.
There is definitely the glamor of batting, but if you claim to know the game (which really I don't even do) then you need to know that pitchers are just as much a part of this steroid era as the batters are. Baseball is corrupt to the core man.
I don't know if I can find the link right now, but I also once read a great opinion piece about how cheating is just part of baseball culture -- from stealing signs, to pine-tarring balls (see: last post-season), to corking bats, etc. etc.. There's tons of little ways inside the game to get a leg up on your opponent, and most of them are looked on as rather funny, benign, quaint little facets of the game, but when people start juicing? Well, we actually had Caminitti and McGwire be open about their juicing, so let's amend that to: when Barry starts juicing (and breaking records, including Big Mac's publicly andro fueled record) then people are mad?
God -- fuck baseball. I'm embarrassed it's America's game, to be honest.
I think the reason why pitchers are not mentioned the same was as batters is the benefits are not as obvious to the average person. Any idiot can see that bigger muscles means more homeruns. It's not that simple with pitching.
There is definitely the glamor of batting, but if you claim to know the game (which really I don't even do) then you need to know that pitchers are just as much a part of this steroid era as the batters are. Baseball is corrupt to the core man.
I don't know if I can find the link right now, but I also once read a great opinion piece about how cheating is just part of baseball culture -- from stealing signs, to pine-tarring balls (see: last post-season), to corking bats, etc. etc.. There's tons of little ways inside the game to get a leg up on your opponent, and most of them are looked on as rather funny, benign, quaint little facets of the game, but when people start juicing? Well, we actually had Caminitti and McGwire be open about their juicing, so let's amend that to: when Barry starts juicing (and breaking records, including Big Mac's publicly andro fueled record) then people are mad?
God -- fuck baseball. I'm embarrassed it's America's game, to be honest.
Most of it isn't even because Barry may very well break the record while juicing.
Barry Bonds is very well known as an utter dickhead.
This just gives people more reason to hate him and declare his name should be wiped from the record books.
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Wells?
a pokemon card
muk
because you stink
I hate you so much
uh
your mother wears combat boots
that was horrible
but video games about italian plumbers and talking mushrooms and monkeys named donkey aren't...
monkeys aren't donkeys
stop messing with my head
EVISCERATE THE PROLITERATE
This scares me, I miss Ted Turner/Time Warner being the owner...
all of them
WHY?
them and the cards, man
i wouldn't spit on them if they were on fire
which coincidentally goes along quite well with my earlier burning plots
OAKLAND! REPRESENT!
Did you see that 18 inning playoff game in 2005? Because that was rad, 6 hours long.
Sad we lost, but a good game.
last season when the cards were imploding and we were so close to sneaking in the playoffs and man fuck me we lost on the last game of the year, again, and fuck the next day there was this picture in the chronicle of luke scott sitting on the bench, alone, crying, and fuck that just tore my heart in two
Playing spoiler is fun though.
I want to see how we do this year without clemens and pettite
Taco Bell time.
5 teams! At least I think it was 5..
I hope
different steroids have different characteristic spectra of action. certain 'anabolic' steroids are primarily anabolic in nature, but some aren't. if a steroid's primary activity is to block the catabolic effects of cortisol, you're damn straight a pitcher will see tremendous benefit from taking it.
Give him a few more months and he'll trip into a woodchipper.. or stumble onto the Dan Ryan Expway.
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Also, Grimsley admitted that doing HGH sped up his recovery time after a start to the point where he could pitch every other day if need be.
How about the fact that they were being caught at an exactly 1:1 ratio to batters under new testing?
Or what about the 31 of 68 minor leaguers busted being pitchers? There's 8 other position players on the field, and only 1 pitcher, yet the pitchers comprise nearly 50% of all transgressions?
If you seriously believe that juicing is for batters only, and if you even for a moment don't think that Clemens is juiced out just as much, if not more than Barry, then you are being a little daft. Yet still, it's Barry that makes the headlines ... hmmmm ... hmmmm.
And really, what about when McGwire was openly on Andro chasing the record? Oh yeah, that's right he was applauded as a hero for his "brave" denial of the drug*. So yes, Barry is an asshole. That is fairly undeniable. But you can't deny that there has been an absolutely unreasonable amount of attention paid to him and solely him, that is somehow absent when other (white) players are also chasing records, and are just as obviously juicing (I mean it was public fucking knowledge with McGwire!). So spin it how you want, but the whole Barry case is just pretty fucking dumb.
*after he had broken the record, much to America's adulation, and cemented his place in the hearts and minds of baseball fans
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I don't know if I can find the link right now, but I also once read a great opinion piece about how cheating is just part of baseball culture -- from stealing signs, to pine-tarring balls (see: last post-season), to corking bats, etc. etc.. There's tons of little ways inside the game to get a leg up on your opponent, and most of them are looked on as rather funny, benign, quaint little facets of the game, but when people start juicing? Well, we actually had Caminitti and McGwire be open about their juicing, so let's amend that to: when Barry starts juicing (and breaking records, including Big Mac's publicly andro fueled record) then people are mad?
God -- fuck baseball. I'm embarrassed it's America's game, to be honest.
Or prison knife-fights.
Most of it isn't even because Barry may very well break the record while juicing.
Barry Bonds is very well known as an utter dickhead.
This just gives people more reason to hate him and declare his name should be wiped from the record books.