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Dust 514: OMG F2P MMOFPS

PeenPeen Registered User regular
edited March 2012 in Social Entropy++
Dust 514? That's that PS3 exclusive first person shooter that links into Eve somehow right? Yawn, right? Wrong, because CCP Games announced today that it's going to be free to play. It's launching this summer, I think we should team up and get our shoot on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfT_caE1KHQ

Official site here.

Peen on

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  • StaleStale Registered User regular
    this piece of shit is directly responsible for leeching so much time and effort from CCP that it lead to the studio here in ATL getting all but shuttered, and all of the previous whitewolf staff being laid off, along with most of the world of darkness team in a frantic dying gasp from CCP to save itself.

    so no.


    fuck this game. it lead, by proxy, to many very good people loosing their jobs.

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  • PeenPeen Registered User regular
    I think this is going to set a new record for number of posts before a thread I started dies. Thanks Stale!

  • LegbaLegba He did. Registered User regular
    How is it free to play if it's a PS3 game? Is it a downloadable title, or?

  • PeenPeen Registered User regular
    They haven't released the details yet but presumably yeah, it'll be a free digital download and there won't be any monthly fee. I'm waiting to see what the free to play hooks are, whether it's pay $1 for a new helmet color or pay $5 for a mega-robot suit that breaks the game.

  • LegbaLegba He did. Registered User regular
    Well, it looks pretty good, and you can't fault a game for the bad business decisions of the people who made it.

    Now if only I had a PS3...

  • ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User, Transition Team regular
    Don't worry Peen, I think it looks neat.

    I mean, I don't have a PS3 (and won't buy it for this) but I like the initial concept.

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  • BallmanBallman Registered User regular
    Well fuck. This looks like something I'd really like, but I don't have a PS3, and I don't want to support a game whose development caused a lot of people to lose their jobs.

  • ArtreusArtreus I'm a wizard And that looks fucked upRegistered User regular
    Wouldn't that cause even more people to lose their jobs though

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  • KarlKarl Registered User regular
    Poverty for everyone. This game looks alright. But shit, I said that about Haze

  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    EVE Online is a wretched, horrible game. But this looks fun

    this is a discord of mostly PA people interested in fighting games: https://discord.gg/DZWa97d5rz

    we also talk about other random shit and clown upon each other
  • BallmanBallman Registered User regular
    Artreus wrote: »
    Wouldn't that cause even more people to lose their jobs though

    If my limited and uninformed knowledge of the game development industry is anywhere close to accurate, they'll probably lose their jobs anyway.

  • ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User, Transition Team regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    EVE Online is a wretched, horrible game. But this looks fun

    The beauty of Eve is it has given us a great window into free market economies.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    I'm suddenly very interested in this!

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  • George Fornby GrillGeorge Fornby Grill ...Like Clockwork Registered User regular
    CCP: Constantly losing money, constantly devising better ways to lose money and break their own games

    At least they added a Ship Spin counter back into EVE, that was something.

  • BaidolBaidol I will hold him off Escape while you canRegistered User regular
    My favorite way to play Eve is to log in only to change my skills that take a month to train.

    As for Dust, I do not hold high hopes for it, based on prior experience with CCP.

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  • WeaverWeaver Breakfast Witch Hashus BrowniusRegistered User regular
    I was excited about this until PS3 only.

  • PeccaviPeccavi Registered User regular
    If CCP's design philosophy wasn't "Release broken new content to try and grab new players, never bother fixing it because we're already working on more new content," I might've been interested in this.

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  • BaidolBaidol I will hold him off Escape while you canRegistered User regular
    Peccavi wrote: »
    If CCP's design philosophy wasn't "Release broken new content to try and grab new players, never bother fixing it because we're already working on more new content," I might've been interested in this.

    I am hoping this can be mitigated by continuously electing Mittens as King of Space.

    If not, we should get some good laughs out of it.

    Steam Overwatch: Baidol#1957
  • gtrmpgtrmp Registered User regular
    Stale wrote: »
    this piece of shit is directly responsible for leeching so much time and effort from CCP that it lead to the studio here in ATL getting all but shuttered, and all of the previous whitewolf staff being laid off, along with most of the world of darkness team in a frantic dying gasp from CCP to save itself.

    so no.


    fuck this game. it lead, by proxy, to many very good people loosing their jobs.

    let's be fair, it's only partly because of this game that all those people lost their jobs. the EVE subscriber revolt over the fact that CCP tried charging $80 for a virtual monocle that nobody would ever see played a big part, too.

    seriously, what genius decided that releasing a subscription-based MMOFPS on the PS3 was a good idea? let alone one that was heavily tied into a subscription-based MMO spreadsheet sim on a completely different platform?

  • UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    this had me at f2p but lost me at that trailer

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  • PeenPeen Registered User regular
    What didn't you like about the trailer? I came away ambiguous but not turned off.

  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Stale wrote: »
    this piece of shit is directly responsible for leeching so much time and effort from CCP that it lead to the studio here in ATL getting all but shuttered, and all of the previous whitewolf staff being laid off, along with most of the world of darkness team in a frantic dying gasp from CCP to save itself.

    so no.


    fuck this game. it lead, by proxy, to many very good people loosing their jobs.

    don't forget that none of the people that actually made all of the horrible decisions lost their jobs or had their pay cut

  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    You know what is going to be free to play and might actually be good?

    this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkWhrahs3AQ

  • StaleStale Registered User regular
    gtrmp wrote: »
    Stale wrote: »
    this piece of shit is directly responsible for leeching so much time and effort from CCP that it lead to the studio here in ATL getting all but shuttered, and all of the previous whitewolf staff being laid off, along with most of the world of darkness team in a frantic dying gasp from CCP to save itself.

    so no.


    fuck this game. it lead, by proxy, to many very good people loosing their jobs.

    let's be fair, it's only partly because of this game that all those people lost their jobs. the EVE subscriber revolt over the fact that CCP tried charging $80 for a virtual monocle that nobody would ever see played a big part, too.

    seriously, what genius decided that releasing a subscription-based MMOFPS on the PS3 was a good idea? let alone one that was heavily tied into a subscription-based MMO spreadsheet sim on a completely different platform?

    actually that was pretty over-hyped as the dip only lasted a month or two and a healthy portion of subs came back. make no mistake, Eve online prints money. The problem came in with gross-mismanagement of the Dust and Eve-expansion teams.

    Dust is done almost entirely by the asian studio, with little to no oversight. This resulted in multiple-month projects being scrapped. There is a reason that Dust has been hyped for years and years with nothing to show, and it isn't because the game is ground-breaking.

    Eve on the otherhand is jealously lorded over by the iceland studio who only know how to do one thing, fight in space. They spent a years budget in trying to make humanoid figures walk in a platform and delivered the captains quarters, thats as far as they could go.

    Meanwhile, CCP buys Whitewolf and begins WoD, which really was groundbreaking and unique. Problem is, it was the new kid, so it got scrapped, along with a LOT of outstanding employees.

    Those that survived got moved to Eve and Dust. Not because Dust was going to be great, but because they've already spent so much, they couldn't just shoot it in the head as easily as WoD.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    ccp hilmar is such a giant fucking moron

    just

    goddamnt

  • HellaJeffHellaJeff FAB FRESH RAIIINBOOWWWWWRegistered User regular
    I really enjoy the environment of Eve, lots of risk all the time, fun looking stuff, lots of preparation. It is basically the world pvp I imagined when I read the original box for WoW

  • MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    Yeah my sister lost her job at CCP, likely a result of this

    so eff this

  • ZoelZoel I suppose... I'd put it on Registered User regular
    I don't really think dust is responsible for CCP's bad business decisions anymore than the dudes that got fired. The people who make Dust are every bit as deserving as the ones who make/made world of darkness. They're also probably more deserving than the ones who make Eve, but time will tell.

    I'm skeptical that mittens can do anything positive as csm chair (or that anyone as csm chair can do anything positive, for that matter.) Of course, there's only so much that can be done about the fact that Eve is a great mmo with a kinda bad "target/action/rotate ability" game attached as an afterthought.

    A magician gives you a ring that, when worn, will let you see the world as it truly is.
    However, the ring will never leave your finger, and you will be unable to ever describe to another living person what you see.
  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    Stale wrote: »
    this piece of shit is directly responsible for leeching so much time and effort from CCP that it lead to the studio here in ATL getting all but shuttered, and all of the previous whitewolf staff being laid off, along with most of the world of darkness team in a frantic dying gasp from CCP to save itself.

    so no.


    fuck this game. it lead, by proxy, to many very good people loosing their jobs.

    Couldn't have said it better myself. This game is delaying WoD.

    It can rot for all I care.

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  • AneurhythmiaAneurhythmia Registered User regular
    Stale wrote: »
    gtrmp wrote: »
    Stale wrote: »
    this piece of shit is directly responsible for leeching so much time and effort from CCP that it lead to the studio here in ATL getting all but shuttered, and all of the previous whitewolf staff being laid off, along with most of the world of darkness team in a frantic dying gasp from CCP to save itself.

    so no.


    fuck this game. it lead, by proxy, to many very good people loosing their jobs.

    let's be fair, it's only partly because of this game that all those people lost their jobs. the EVE subscriber revolt over the fact that CCP tried charging $80 for a virtual monocle that nobody would ever see played a big part, too.

    seriously, what genius decided that releasing a subscription-based MMOFPS on the PS3 was a good idea? let alone one that was heavily tied into a subscription-based MMO spreadsheet sim on a completely different platform?

    actually that was pretty over-hyped as the dip only lasted a month or two and a healthy portion of subs came back. make no mistake, Eve online prints money. The problem came in with gross-mismanagement of the Dust and Eve-expansion teams.

    Dust is done almost entirely by the asian studio, with little to no oversight. This resulted in multiple-month projects being scrapped. There is a reason that Dust has been hyped for years and years with nothing to show, and it isn't because the game is ground-breaking.

    Eve on the otherhand is jealously lorded over by the iceland studio who only know how to do one thing, fight in space. They spent a years budget in trying to make humanoid figures walk in a platform and delivered the captains quarters, thats as far as they could go.

    Meanwhile, CCP buys Whitewolf and begins WoD, which really was groundbreaking and unique. Problem is, it was the new kid, so it got scrapped, along with a LOT of outstanding employees.

    Those that survived got moved to Eve and Dust. Not because Dust was going to be great, but because they've already spent so much, they couldn't just shoot it in the head as easily as WoD.

    Maybe all those folks that lost their jobs should just

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgvM7av1o1Q

  • ZoelZoel I suppose... I'd put it on Registered User regular
    Annie I love you btw.

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    However, the ring will never leave your finger, and you will be unable to ever describe to another living person what you see.
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