Hey Retaba, what's with your name being similar to mine?
I'm not sure, Ketbra but it confuses people like Kime!
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The AnonymousUh, uh, uhhhhhh...Uh, uh.Registered Userregular
Our kills can also work as a seer, like this:
REG Rysk is not mafia. I targeted him last night, and MrT says that if multiple villagers target one mafioso, everyone involved dies. If you want proof I'm legit, vote for The Anonymous.
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BaidolI will hold him offEscape while you canRegistered Userregular
Yes, because killing a villager to confirm that REG Rysk is not mafia is worth it. The only good that comes of that is the mafia goes after him, meaning they either get a protein, or a confirmed villager.
Our kills do act as seers, but the question is just who do you trust? The mafia will always be able to say they attacked someone who is a villager.
For example, I can tell you that I attacked INANTP last night.
He is dead. I am not. Therefore INANTP is/was not mafia.
It hardly matters, with sufficient cross referenced data you can draw valid conclusions without needing to rely on any individual datapoint. I attacked Capfalcon
It hardly matters, with sufficient cross referenced data you can draw valid conclusions without needing to rely on any individual datapoint. I attacked Capfalcon
Presumably the mafia can do the same. We have to be very careful publicly revealing who we attacked since that narrows the pool of people that the RAC1 proteins can hide in and if they're forced to fake results mafia might well spot them very quickly.
I thought your encryption system was designed to account for this? Why the change of heart phyphor?
It hardly matters, with sufficient cross referenced data you can draw valid conclusions without needing to rely on any individual datapoint. I attacked Capfalcon
Presumably the mafia can do the same. We have to be very careful publicly revealing who we attacked since that narrows the pool of people that the RAC1 proteins can hide in and if they're forced to fake results mafia might well spot them very quickly.
I thought your encryption system was designed to account for this? Why the change of heart phyphor?
Anyone who is a protein can either make up fake targets or say nothing at all. If they said they attacked someone who is a mafia... well that's just bad luck really
It hardly matters, with sufficient cross referenced data you can draw valid conclusions without needing to rely on any individual datapoint. I attacked Capfalcon
Presumably the mafia can do the same. We have to be very careful publicly revealing who we attacked since that narrows the pool of people that the RAC1 proteins can hide in and if they're forced to fake results mafia might well spot them very quickly.
I thought your encryption system was designed to account for this? Why the change of heart phyphor?
Anyone who is a protein can either make up fake targets or say nothing at all. If they said they attacked someone who is a mafia... well that's just bad luck really
But that's my point. Im not sure that encouraging everyone to reveal who they attacked is a good thing. That isn't to say its not, but some math might help convince me.
Yes, because killing a villager to confirm that REG Rysk is not mafia is worth it. The only good that comes of that is the mafia goes after him, meaning they either get a protein, or a confirmed villager.
Our kills do act as seers, but the question is just who do you trust? The mafia will always be able to say they attacked someone who is a villager.
For example, I can tell you that I attacked INANTP last night.
He is dead. I am not. Therefore INANTP is/was not mafia.
But, do you believe me?
Yeah, way to twist my words here. I never called for everyone to reveal who they attacked; we know that's an exercise in futility, unless you use the vote. Which I plan on doing to rule out possible mafia.
See, we know that two of the four temp-dead are mafia, and me dying to the vote confirms my statement that Rysk isn't one of them. Tomorrow we vote out someone who claimed to have targeted INANTP; if they're village, we know who two of the mafia are. If they aren't, the person we voted out wasn't village anyway. The village wins out no matter what.
See, we know that two of the four temp-dead are mafia, and me dying to the vote confirms my statement that Rysk isn't one of them. Tomorrow we vote out someone who claimed to have targeted INANTP; if they're village, we know who two of the mafia are. If they aren't, the person we voted out wasn't village anyway. The village wins out no matter what.
Citation needed
As far as i'm aware, we don't know that. For all we know, it could be 1 mafia and 3 villagers who all attacked him. Or any combination involving 1 or 2 mafia kills.
See, we know that two of the four temp-dead are mafia, and me dying to the vote confirms my statement that Rysk isn't one of them. Tomorrow we vote out someone who claimed to have targeted INANTP; if they're village, we know who two of the mafia are. If they aren't, the person we voted out wasn't village anyway. The village wins out no matter what.
Citation needed
As far as i'm aware, we don't know that. For all we know, it could be 1 mafia and 3 villagers who all attacked him. Or any combination involving 1 or 2 mafia kills.
Yeah, all we know at this point is that there is likely a mafia in the dead group, but who or how many is unknown
See, we know that two of the four temp-dead are mafia, and me dying to the vote confirms my statement that Rysk isn't one of them. Tomorrow we vote out someone who claimed to have targeted INANTP; if they're village, we know who two of the mafia are. If they aren't, the person we voted out wasn't village anyway. The village wins out no matter what.
Citation needed
As far as i'm aware, we don't know that. For all we know, it could be 1 mafia and 3 villagers who all attacked him. Or any combination involving 1 or 2 mafia kills.
Yeah, all we know at this point is that there is likely a mafia in the dead group, but who or how many is unknown
But I totally said "at least one mafioso". Totally.
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ObiFettUse the ForceAs You WishRegistered Userregular
Someone in that group of 4 has to be mafia, right?
No, I do not know why Bedlam did not release this information before he died. That way, people would believe what he said. Instead, you will have to do with just me.
Rac proteins can select a white blood cell, presumably each night, to protect them from the backlash of hitting a cancer cell. This allows the white blood cell in question to kill a cancer cell without dying as well.
However, if a protein selects a cancer cell, that cell is protected from a single white-blood cell attack. It is implied, but not confirmed, that multiple white blood cell attacks in a single-night will break this guard.
This means that just because your target survived, it does not mean he is not a cancer cell. This also means that converted Rac proteins are extraordinarily dangerous. Any protein that is outed must be executed by the village.
Proteins, choose your targets carefully and come talk to me. No, I am not telling you who the other proteins are.
BaidolI will hold him offEscape while you canRegistered Userregular
edited March 2012
They don't!
You either believe I am a villager contacted by a protein, a mafia member contacted by a protein, a mafia member who's team converted a protein on day 1, or someone making shit up.
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But, at least 2 mafia were hit, gives us some place to start.
Well, this depends on whether the mafia have a conversion that turns into a kill if it does not target a Rac1 protein, or just a conversion.
I'm not sure, Ketbra but it confuses people like Kime!
REG Rysk is not mafia. I targeted him last night, and MrT says that if multiple villagers target one mafioso, everyone involved dies. If you want proof I'm legit, vote for The Anonymous.
Our kills do act as seers, but the question is just who do you trust? The mafia will always be able to say they attacked someone who is a villager.
For example, I can tell you that I attacked INANTP last night.
He is dead. I am not. Therefore INANTP is/was not mafia.
But, do you believe me?
Presumably the mafia can do the same. We have to be very careful publicly revealing who we attacked since that narrows the pool of people that the RAC1 proteins can hide in and if they're forced to fake results mafia might well spot them very quickly.
I thought your encryption system was designed to account for this? Why the change of heart phyphor?
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Anyone who is a protein can either make up fake targets or say nothing at all. If they said they attacked someone who is a mafia... well that's just bad luck really
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Why on earth would you vote for someone that confirmed INANTP as a white blood cell?
Oh man now in addition to checking the thread before vote close, I have to check it before vote close but only two days from now
you guys are jerks
OooooOOoooo
Due to the birthday paradox, it's virtually impossible to prevent duplicates with random assignments
But that's my point. Im not sure that encouraging everyone to reveal who they attacked is a good thing. That isn't to say its not, but some math might help convince me.
See, we know that two of the four temp-dead are mafia, and me dying to the vote confirms my statement that Rysk isn't one of them. Tomorrow we vote out someone who claimed to have targeted INANTP; if they're village, we know who two of the mafia are. If they aren't, the person we voted out wasn't village anyway. The village wins out no matter what.
As far as i'm aware, we don't know that. For all we know, it could be 1 mafia and 3 villagers who all attacked him. Or any combination involving 1 or 2 mafia kills.
Yeah, all we know at this point is that there is likely a mafia in the dead group, but who or how many is unknown
Lets start with smoove
I didn't think we could vote for the dead, given normal phalla rules, but let us clarify that:
Are the dead viable vote targets in this phalla?
Just assumed that targeting the dead was a barrel to shoot fish in compared to the lake that is the village.
This phalla so craaaaaazy...
Hahahahahahahahaha
Listen up, time for a mechanics dump.
I have been contacted by a Rac protein.
No, I do not know why Bedlam did not release this information before he died. That way, people would believe what he said. Instead, you will have to do with just me.
Rac proteins can select a white blood cell, presumably each night, to protect them from the backlash of hitting a cancer cell. This allows the white blood cell in question to kill a cancer cell without dying as well.
However, if a protein selects a cancer cell, that cell is protected from a single white-blood cell attack. It is implied, but not confirmed, that multiple white blood cell attacks in a single-night will break this guard.
This means that just because your target survived, it does not mean he is not a cancer cell. This also means that converted Rac proteins are extraordinarily dangerous. Any protein that is outed must be executed by the village.
Proteins, choose your targets carefully and come talk to me. No, I am not telling you who the other proteins are.
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You either believe I am a villager contacted by a protein, a mafia member contacted by a protein, a mafia member who's team converted a protein on day 1, or someone making shit up.