Although I suppose in the end, having Todd as the next Batman makes sense, so long as he does something during the Crisis the redeem himself big time.
Because neither Tim nor Dick want to be Batman.
Jason as Batman makes sense for Jason. He's the only one of them that has a "Batman complex". Dick and Tim know that Batman is fucked up and they don't want to become that. It makes more sense for him to become Batman than to become "Red Robin"
It wouldn't make any sense for Tim to be Jason's sidekick, though. I can see Tim moving onto another name and then Damian being Jason's Robin because he'd like Jason's style
Last week's rumour about Batman kicking the Batbucket to be replaced by a sidekick is kicking up steam. As Valerie D'Orazio picks up on, the original plan was for all the main DC icons to die and be elevated to the status of New Gods as part of the Fifth World, their sidekicks filling the roles they left behind.
However, that plan was abandoned internally at DC and reduced to a Bat-storyline by Grant Morrison. So look for Bruce Wayne New God to go head-to-head with Darkseid in "Final Crisis."
Maybe they canned the idea to do it for most of the main DC guys because oh wait they killed Bart and Connor goddamnit
Wait. Wait. Connor? As in Connor Hawke? When did he die? Isn't he a main part of the ongoing Black Canary/Green Arrow that just started?
Also, on the topic of Bruce Wayne dying, I can't see D.C. killing him with a new Bruce Wayne/Batman movie on the way. If they do it, and Jason Todd becomes the new Batman, I will be hardpressed to continue buying Detective Comics and Batman. Tim Drake is the proper successor. He's the only Robin with right combination of fighting skill, tactical acumen, and detective chops. Jason Todd is just a goon. Besides, Tim wants to be the next Batman. He's already thinking about the day when he's wearing the cowl and cape.
Also, I really don't see why it's important for Batman to be alive in the comics just because a movie's coming out. I'm pretty sure comic sales never spike following the release of a movie. For the most part, I imagine crossover fans are going for graphic novels at the local book store rather than going through the trouble of finding their local comic shop, assuming they even have one.
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Last week's rumour about Batman kicking the Batbucket to be replaced by a sidekick is kicking up steam. As Valerie D'Orazio picks up on, the original plan was for all the main DC icons to die and be elevated to the status of New Gods as part of the Fifth World, their sidekicks filling the roles they left behind.
However, that plan was abandoned internally at DC and reduced to a Bat-storyline by Grant Morrison. So look for Bruce Wayne New God to go head-to-head with Darkseid in "Final Crisis."
Maybe they canned the idea to do it for most of the main DC guys because oh wait they killed Bart and Connor goddamnit
Wait. Wait. Connor? As in Connor Hawke? When did he die? Isn't he a main part of the ongoing Black Canary/Green Arrow that just started?
Also, I really don't see why it's important for Batman to be alive in the comics just because a movie's coming out. I'm pretty sure comic sales never spike following the release of a movie. For the most part, I imagine crossover fans are going for graphic novels at the local book store rather than going through the trouble of finding their local comic shop, assuming they even have one.
Um, no, I don't read Teen Titans. I'm basing my opinion on Tim from his solo book. And I'm not sure it's a sales thing but a "we don't want the newspapers reporting that Batman is dead around the same time when the new movie comes out, because people are stupid and won't pay attention and will go to the movie expecting to see Batman die and when he doesn't, people will be confused, will complain, and will tell other people to not see the movie" thing.
Also, I really don't see why it's important for Batman to be alive in the comics just because a movie's coming out. I'm pretty sure comic sales never spike following the release of a movie. For the most part, I imagine crossover fans are going for graphic novels at the local book store rather than going through the trouble of finding their local comic shop, assuming they even have one.
Um, no, I don't read Teen Titans. I'm basing my opinion on Tim from his solo book. And I'm not sure it's a sales thing but a "we don't want the newspapers reporting that Batman is dead around the same time when the new movie comes out, because people are stupid and won't pay attention and will go to the movie expecting to see Batman die and when he doesn't, people will be confused, will complain, and will tell other people to not see the movie" thing.
In Teen Titans, Robin doesn't want to become Batman. In fact, he's literally fighting his future as Batman in the form of his time displaced future self.
And I don't really buy the rationale you put forth with your latter statement. People will be confused because the movie doesn't end with Batman dying? Nobody's that irrational. Furthermore, a media event surrounding the death of Batman in the comic would create a sales spike among all attached comics and further bolster interest in the movie. If anything, it'd be a good thing.
Also, I really don't see why it's important for Batman to be alive in the comics just because a movie's coming out. I'm pretty sure comic sales never spike following the release of a movie. For the most part, I imagine crossover fans are going for graphic novels at the local book store rather than going through the trouble of finding their local comic shop, assuming they even have one.
Um, no, I don't read Teen Titans. I'm basing my opinion on Tim from his solo book. And I'm not sure it's a sales thing but a "we don't want the newspapers reporting that Batman is dead around the same time when the new movie comes out, because people are stupid and won't pay attention and will go to the movie expecting to see Batman die and when he doesn't, people will be confused, will complain, and will tell other people to not see the movie" thing.
In Teen Titans, Robin doesn't want to become Batman. In fact, he's literally fighting his future as Batman in the form of his time displaced future self.
And I don't really buy the rationale you put forth with your latter statement. People will be confused because the movie doesn't end with Batman dying? Nobody's that irrational. Furthermore, a media event surrounding the death of Batman in the comic would create a sales spike among all attached comics and further bolster interest in the movie. If anything, it'd be a good thing.
You might be right about the increased sales, but you are 100% wrong about peoples' capacity for irrationality.
Also, I really don't see why it's important for Batman to be alive in the comics just because a movie's coming out. I'm pretty sure comic sales never spike following the release of a movie. For the most part, I imagine crossover fans are going for graphic novels at the local book store rather than going through the trouble of finding their local comic shop, assuming they even have one.
Um, no, I don't read Teen Titans. I'm basing my opinion on Tim from his solo book. And I'm not sure it's a sales thing but a "we don't want the newspapers reporting that Batman is dead around the same time when the new movie comes out, because people are stupid and won't pay attention and will go to the movie expecting to see Batman die and when he doesn't, people will be confused, will complain, and will tell other people to not see the movie" thing.
Tim has never wanted to be Batman
He's said multiple times (in his series, Teen Titans, Young Justice, and other Bat-books) that he doesn't want to become Batman.
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Also, I really don't see why it's important for Batman to be alive in the comics just because a movie's coming out. I'm pretty sure comic sales never spike following the release of a movie. For the most part, I imagine crossover fans are going for graphic novels at the local book store rather than going through the trouble of finding their local comic shop, assuming they even have one.
Um, no, I don't read Teen Titans. I'm basing my opinion on Tim from his solo book. And I'm not sure it's a sales thing but a "we don't want the newspapers reporting that Batman is dead around the same time when the new movie comes out, because people are stupid and won't pay attention and will go to the movie expecting to see Batman die and when he doesn't, people will be confused, will complain, and will tell other people to not see the movie" thing.
In Teen Titans, Robin doesn't want to become Batman. In fact, he's literally fighting his future as Batman in the form of his time displaced future self.
And I don't really buy the rationale you put forth with your latter statement. People will be confused because the movie doesn't end with Batman dying? Nobody's that irrational. Furthermore, a media event surrounding the death of Batman in the comic would create a sales spike among all attached comics and further bolster interest in the movie. If anything, it'd be a good thing.
You might be right about the increased sales, but you are 100% wrong about peoples' capacity for irrationality.
I once encountered a woman on an airplane who asked me what I did for a living. When I told her that, among other things, I wrote for The Hulk, she looked bewildered and said, "I thought the Hulk was dead." She was referring, of course, to the 1990 TV movie, The Death of the Incredible Hulk, in which the Hulk is depicted as falling to his death from a departing helicopter. I tried to explain to her that the "real" Hulk could fall from orbit, and the only result would be an annoyed Hulk climbing out of a Hulk-sized crater, dusting himself off, and going about his business. But she literally couldn't understand what I was talking about. She couldn't grasp the concept of two different incarnations of the Hulk, and besides, she'd seen him die. Dead is dead.
Also, I really don't see why it's important for Batman to be alive in the comics just because a movie's coming out. I'm pretty sure comic sales never spike following the release of a movie. For the most part, I imagine crossover fans are going for graphic novels at the local book store rather than going through the trouble of finding their local comic shop, assuming they even have one.
Um, no, I don't read Teen Titans. I'm basing my opinion on Tim from his solo book. And I'm not sure it's a sales thing but a "we don't want the newspapers reporting that Batman is dead around the same time when the new movie comes out, because people are stupid and won't pay attention and will go to the movie expecting to see Batman die and when he doesn't, people will be confused, will complain, and will tell other people to not see the movie" thing.
Tim has never wanted to be Batman
He's said multiple times (in his series, Teen Titans, Young Justice, and other Bat-books) that he doesn't want to become Batman.
He doesn't want to be as obsessed as Bruce Wayne, but he does want to do what Batman does. He loves the detective work, and it looks like he's set to become a bit tougher in the fighting department. Tim is scared of shouldering the responsibility of being Gotham's sole protector, but what teen-ager (or adult, heck) wouldn't be scared of that burden? When (if) push comes to shove, he'll don the cowl and cape. He wants it, but he doesn't want to lose himself.
I think there is a definite tension between what he says he wants, and what he does.
I'm down for killing the big 3. A lot of people would hate it, but screw them, it's new territory that has to happen some day.
My ideal Final Crisis would have Nightwing saving the day and defeating the big baddie. Not Superman, not Batman, not Supergirl, just regular old Nightwing. Give his legend a big boost.
I'm down for killing the big 3. A lot of people would hate it, but screw them, it's new territory that has to happen some day.
My ideal Final Crisis would have Nightwing saving the day and defeating the big baddie. Not Superman, not Batman, not Supergirl, just regular old Nightwing. Give his legend a big boost.
Who's Nightwing?
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DiDio said that none of the Big Three would become New Gods ever at a Con this weekend.
Although I suppose in the end, having Todd as the next Batman makes sense, so long as he does something during the Crisis the redeem himself big time.
Because neither Tim nor Dick want to be Batman.
He's also an idiot for not thinking that it's a great idea.
If Jason is to stay alive for the inevitable future, I would have rather seen him as Red Robin like originally (and more or less still) planned.
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He in fact says it is a terrible idea.
I just don't even know
Jason as Batman makes sense for Jason. He's the only one of them that has a "Batman complex". Dick and Tim know that Batman is fucked up and they don't want to become that. It makes more sense for him to become Batman than to become "Red Robin"
It wouldn't make any sense for Tim to be Jason's sidekick, though. I can see Tim moving onto another name and then Damian being Jason's Robin because he'd like Jason's style
Oh man, he could join Birds of Prey and hang around hot women all day.
(I'm still not too well up on Tim to know.)
At one time he was being groomed to be the new Blue Beetle by Ted (and Chuck Dixon).
Eh? Eh?
Ehhh..
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no one should be a candidate for "Red Robin" because Red Robin is fucking retarded
Wait. Wait. Connor? As in Connor Hawke? When did he die? Isn't he a main part of the ongoing Black Canary/Green Arrow that just started?
Also, on the topic of Bruce Wayne dying, I can't see D.C. killing him with a new Bruce Wayne/Batman movie on the way. If they do it, and Jason Todd becomes the new Batman, I will be hardpressed to continue buying Detective Comics and Batman. Tim Drake is the proper successor. He's the only Robin with right combination of fighting skill, tactical acumen, and detective chops. Jason Todd is just a goon. Besides, Tim wants to be the next Batman. He's already thinking about the day when he's wearing the cowl and cape.
Also, I really don't see why it's important for Batman to be alive in the comics just because a movie's coming out. I'm pretty sure comic sales never spike following the release of a movie. For the most part, I imagine crossover fans are going for graphic novels at the local book store rather than going through the trouble of finding their local comic shop, assuming they even have one.
Um, no, I don't read Teen Titans. I'm basing my opinion on Tim from his solo book. And I'm not sure it's a sales thing but a "we don't want the newspapers reporting that Batman is dead around the same time when the new movie comes out, because people are stupid and won't pay attention and will go to the movie expecting to see Batman die and when he doesn't, people will be confused, will complain, and will tell other people to not see the movie" thing.
In Teen Titans, Robin doesn't want to become Batman. In fact, he's literally fighting his future as Batman in the form of his time displaced future self.
And I don't really buy the rationale you put forth with your latter statement. People will be confused because the movie doesn't end with Batman dying? Nobody's that irrational. Furthermore, a media event surrounding the death of Batman in the comic would create a sales spike among all attached comics and further bolster interest in the movie. If anything, it'd be a good thing.
Things Damien probably likes:
people who are assholes
Things Damien probably doesn't like:
stupid motherfuckers.
You might be right about the increased sales, but you are 100% wrong about peoples' capacity for irrationality.
His foot isn't on the ground nyah nyah
Tim has never wanted to be Batman
He's said multiple times (in his series, Teen Titans, Young Justice, and other Bat-books) that he doesn't want to become Batman.
He doesn't want to be as obsessed as Bruce Wayne, but he does want to do what Batman does. He loves the detective work, and it looks like he's set to become a bit tougher in the fighting department. Tim is scared of shouldering the responsibility of being Gotham's sole protector, but what teen-ager (or adult, heck) wouldn't be scared of that burden? When (if) push comes to shove, he'll don the cowl and cape. He wants it, but he doesn't want to lose himself.
I think there is a definite tension between what he says he wants, and what he does.
My ideal Final Crisis would have Nightwing saving the day and defeating the big baddie. Not Superman, not Batman, not Supergirl, just regular old Nightwing. Give his legend a big boost.
But Jaime is cool. So that part is ok.
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Where did that even come from?
They're supposed to become New Gods.
Thats how people run with rumors.
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I guess some people are just dumb
Who's Nightwing?
i wouldn't mind it
If they kill off the big three, then it shows that anyone is fair game for dying whenever
adds much more suspense to stories
Batman has a gorilla face
I usually like his stuff.
It's forshadowing.
Or something?
Mark Bagley is on his way.
His nickname is the Bag man.
no it's "Ryan Benjamin"
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