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X-Men: Resisting Avengers Oppression For Five Decades

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Darcsteel wrote: »
    Oh I understand whe was speaking for herself. I mostly just wanted to point out that a rational counterpoint to Havoks speech can be formed without people beliveing its some we support hate speech
    You realize Remender apologized for what he said and has since addressed his comments as well as the flaws within Havok's speech both on Twitter and in Uncanny Avengers, right?

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    The fact that the X-Men are all arguing about what is the best way to respond to mutant oppression is the best fucking thing

    Also Cyclops rules forever

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    That said I bought the first trade of Uncanny Avengers and man

    it does feel kind of preachy

  • DarcsteelDarcsteel Wildcard NC United StatesRegistered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Darcsteel wrote: »
    Oh I understand whe was speaking for herself. I mostly just wanted to point out that a rational counterpoint to Havoks speech can be formed without people beliveing its some we support hate speech
    You realize Remender apologized for what he said and has since addressed his comments as well as the flaws within Havok's speech both on Twitter and in Uncanny Avengers, right?

    Dont follow twitter but in which issue of UA was it addressed?

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Darcsteel wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Darcsteel wrote: »
    Oh I understand whe was speaking for herself. I mostly just wanted to point out that a rational counterpoint to Havoks speech can be formed without people beliveing its some we support hate speech
    You realize Remender apologized for what he said and has since addressed his comments as well as the flaws within Havok's speech both on Twitter and in Uncanny Avengers, right?

    Dont follow twitter but in which issue of UA was it addressed?
    The latest one where Rogue and Wanda have a debate over it

    it isn't a perfect explanation, but he acknowledges the speech was flawed and the other X-Books will give better looks at it

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  • MukkMukk Registered User regular
    edited June 2013
    I felt like the latest Uncanny X-Force was actually the first good one in the current run. The previous issue in particular was kinda bad -- the dialog seemed so... stunted? Really simple? I dunno, but #7 read much better.

    X-Men #2 was pretty strong too. Looks promising.

    Mukk on
  • Man of the WavesMan of the Waves Registered User regular
    SO many X-books this week.

  • BullioBullio Registered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    That said I bought the first trade of Uncanny Avengers and man

    it does feel kind of preachy

    I chalked most of that up to Red Skull being what I assume is normal for Red Skull (haven't really read many stories with him). If anyone's going to have an opinion on America in the Marvel U, well...

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    the Red Skull being all "rargh rhetoric!" didn't bother me

    He's the Red Skull, of course he's loaded with that stuff

    it was all the other characters preaching at each other rather than talking to each other which bothered me

    like when Alex went to see Scott

    that scene wasn't there for the two to talk, it was for Alex to make his speech

    Wyborn
  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    It'll be all the more fulfilling when Cyclops beats up Havok for like the tenth straight time in a few months. Hopefully.

    glithert
  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Well I think that is largely because UA is Havok's book.

    Of course he is going to get the spotlight and emphasis.

    Meanwhile Scott is covering Uncanny X-Men in speeches of his own.

    Only so much page real estate a writer can devote to a character that isn't a part of his book.

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  • BullioBullio Registered User regular
    CBR has opened up polling for their 50 Greatest X-Men Stories feature. I haven't voted in any of their previous similar features due to not having read enough to feel like I could give a decent list, but that's definitely not the case with the X-Men. Regardless, I'm still having a hell of a time cobbling together a list. Rules state you can't vote for stuff like UXF or X-Factor, otherwise my list would look almost completely different (and would be so much more difficult to whittle down). Since voting for spin-off/peripheral titles isn't allowed I'm trying to avoid the incredibly obvious stories like Dark Phoenix, though I feel like half of this list would either make it or be very serious contenders anyway. So far I have:

    1. Fever Dream/Where’s Wolverine?!? (UXM 251-252)
    2. Mindgames!/Magneto Triumphant!/Showdown! (UXM 111-113) (can't vote for the whole Odyssey Saga at once :()
    3. Wounded Wolf (UXM 205)
    4. The Brood Saga (UXM 162-167)
    5. Unstoppable (Astonishing X-Men 19-24, Giant-Size Astonishing X-Men 1-2)
    6. The Proteus Saga (UXM 125-128)
    7. Assault on Weapon Plus (NXM 142-145) (considering replacing this with the first Fantomex story)
    8. Going Through the Motions (UXM 303)
    9. Days of Future Past (UXM 141-142) (obviously well-known, but can't think of anything else offhand)
    10. Fatal Attractions

    I guess I love those Claremont-penned solo Wolverine-being-hunted-or-hunting stories more than I realized.

    I'm not completely sold on the last three. The last half of FA is among my favorites, the first half not as much. I'm considering throwing in another Whedon or Morrison story, or maybe one of each. Perhaps Gifted and one of the Cassandra Nova NXM stories.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    Fatal Attractions? really? really?

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  • DarcsteelDarcsteel Wildcard NC United StatesRegistered User regular
    edited July 2013
    ANXM
    So Jean fucked up a mind trick. Seems to be a running gag atm but forgivable since she reminded people her powers expanded only a few issues ago. Highlight of the issue for me: Ice Man snowball vs Thor. OMG that was the best panel in the issue. A close second was seeing cyke step up and make a few command decisions and nail silver samurai IN DA FACE!!

    Also Summers brother high five. Makes me miss who Scott was before the shit hit the fan

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
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    Northstar and Firestar joining WatXM plus Nightcrawler coming back?

    Helllll yeah

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Nightcrawler as some sort of swashbuckling hero is always best

    in space, on the high seas, in a fantasy castle, doesn't matter

    all that matters is Nightcrawler has some sort of saber and is duelling fearlessly with a snarling foe

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Holy shit

    LONGSHOT SAVES THE MARVEL UNIVERSE by Chris Hastings.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    They need to update his costume. Or go back to his Ellis Excalibur duds.

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  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    Urgh, the Nightcrawler thing is in a new X-Men Ongoing by Jason Aaron & Ed McGuinness.

    That's not a bad thing, but having 5+ core X-Titles is. I'm going to have to pick a couple to drop.

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Nightcrawler should wear this or some sort of variant thereof at all times

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    female gaze all up ins

  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Holy shit

    LONGSHOT SAVES THE MARVEL UNIVERSE by Chris Hastings.

    what

  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    HadjiQuest wrote: »
    Urgh, the Nightcrawler thing is in a new X-Men Ongoing by Jason Aaron & Ed McGuinness.

    That's not a bad thing, but having 5+ core X-Titles is. I'm going to have to pick a couple to drop.

    I don't see where it says that Amazing is an ongoing, it sounds like a mini to me.

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  • TurambarTurambar Independent Registered User regular
    TexiKen wrote: »
    They need to update his costume. Or go back to his Ellis Excalibur duds.

    but that Nightcrawler is looking ballin'

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    Balefuego wrote: »
    HadjiQuest wrote: »
    Urgh, the Nightcrawler thing is in a new X-Men Ongoing by Jason Aaron & Ed McGuinness.

    That's not a bad thing, but having 5+ core X-Titles is. I'm going to have to pick a couple to drop.

    I don't see where it says that Amazing is an ongoing, it sounds like a mini to me.

    Seems more likely this is Astonishing's replacement since it's ending

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Yeah, every article I've read calls it "a new series" while specifying Longshot Saves the Marvel Universe is a miniseries

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  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    I kind of miss the days where you could read just Uncanny and get by.

    I mean, you could maybe read just All-New and get by, but they've done a really good job of threading all the books together and having them take turns sharing the spotlight, and giving them really strong and different focuses.

    It's just too expensive to follow 5, $4 core titles, especially when 2 or 3 of them usually double-ship.

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    You can follow any one of them and be fine

    It is just that they are interwoven well and strengthened by the other books. They even went out of their way to include the Uncanny Avengers speech in the issue of All-New X-Men where Kitty addressed it.

    The only thing that is gonna require following multiple books is Battle of the Atom

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  • UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    to hell with Lady Deathstrike, the Dodsons are arting X-Men?

    fuck yes

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    When asked about future X-23 appearances the panel gave a wait and see answer but Bendis pointed himself so looks like she will pop up in either ANXM or Uncanny

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    you know what I would like is actually for X-23 to co-star in Wolverine's solo title for a while

    I think that'd be cool

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  • ShinyRedKnightShinyRedKnight Registered User regular
    So I just started reading X-men again. The OP says that the team split, but I'm not sure which X-men series follows Wolverine's team (located at the Jean Grey School), is there one? I picked up the first trade collection for the new Uncanny X-Men and its pretty awesome, but man it feels like something is missing with the characters on Wolverine's team.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited July 2013
    Wolverine and the X-Men follows Wolverine's team and the school.

    Although All-New X-Men, regular X-Men, and Astonishing X-Men (which is ending soon actually) are books that take place around the school too.

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  • glithertglithert Registered User regular
    What happened to utopia? Did everyone just leave?

  • Crimson KingCrimson King Registered User regular
    nightcrawler is the best x-man

    Etchwarts
  • RedDeliciousRedDelicious Registered User regular
    Oh wow. When was the last time he wasn't paired up with Loeb on a title? Superman, Superman/Batman, Hulk, Nova...sure I'm missing something else...

  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    glithert wrote: »
    What happened to utopia? Did everyone just leave?

    that is a good question

    one of the X-books should revisit Utopia

  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    glithert wrote: »
    What happened to utopia? Did everyone just leave?

    that is a good question

    one of the X-books should revisit Utopia

    Bendis said something about a group called "the Utopians" made up of mutants who stayed there

  • EtchwartsEtchwarts Eyes Up Registered User regular
    nightcrawler is the best x-man

    I think he's definitely my favorite, yeah

    He's got the swashbuckling thing going on but he also has the whole "I look like a demon but I'm actually super religious" thing

    There's layers to this guy, and on top of that his powerset is the coolest

  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    The fact that Nightcrawler can choose weither or not to conserve momentum or not is the best thing ever.

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