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A battle between my heart and my will.

Ethan SmithEthan Smith Origin name: Beart4toArlington, VARegistered User regular
edited March 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
Kinda like the episode of "Rocko's modern life", except I'm not trying to go on a deadly skate rink.

Actually, it's not like that situation at all.

I am a cynic in all ways but one-I am a hopeless romantic when it involves romance, of the old fashion that is really good when you're in a relationship, but creepy as hell when you're not.

Anyways, so I like, no, love would be better, this girl. There is a major distinction between this and other crushes (hey, isn't this true for all of 'em...), that this crush is in no way sexual. The girl I like, though she isn't that attractive, is intensely beautiful. For knowledge on the difference between Beauty and Attractive, compare Patti Smith and Lindsay Lohan.

But yeah, I'm getting off topic. So I love this girl, because she's witty, funny, nice, smart, unique, she's...everything I could ever want.

So, last month, I asked her out. As her reply, she told me she likes me, as a friend.

Now, the 'friend' situation is rather treacherous, because of the fact that, being a junior with most of my friends as seniors, if I don't create a new social circle soon I'll be stuck with a friendless Senior year. I had a friendless 4th grade, and it deteriorated my personality to hell. I don't want this to happen again, so I turned to the girl (louissa), and her friends, who, as one might expect, perfect for me.

After stating that she didn't love me in the way I love her, she left for argentina for half a month. While she was gone, I dealt with my feelings in a rational and orderly manner, and, as a matter of fact, became swift friends with those in Louissa's circle (those that interested me, anyways). However, she came back on Friday, and us and a couple friends saw Borat (w00t library job!) and went to a Pizzeria.

There's something I hadn't noticed about her before-she has a beautiful laugh. The whole time I was walking/sitting next to her, my heart was skipping every second beat and taking a trip up into my throat, to top that off. And afterwards, my mind, all of my preperation for meeting her, all of it fell apart. The last time I was in such a hopeless romance I nearly stalked the girl I loved. This time I vow to myself that I won't ruin any chance of a friendship over my lack of self control.

How do I reconcile this battle? It's obvious isolation would be pointless, as I'll have to meet her if I hang out with her friends.

Man, this probably looks confusing as hell. I'm sorry about that.

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  • SoonerManSoonerMan Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I think you're just tormenting yourself if she's already said no by hanging around her and her friends. That's not to say she won't change her mind (my girlfriend said no but then later fell for me), but she's already put you in the friends zone. That's a hard place to come out of.

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  • Ethan SmithEthan Smith Origin name: Beart4to Arlington, VARegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    SoonerMan wrote: »
    I think you're just tormenting yourself if she's already said no by hanging around her and her friends. That's not to say she won't change her mind (my girlfriend said no but then later fell for me), but she's already put you in the friends zone. That's a hard place to come out of.

    It's not so much that I reserve hope for getting her in the end (^_^), it's that I like her friends.

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  • MunacraMunacra Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    David D said it best: Attraction is not a choice. She won't be attracted to you if you don't do things or look like someone she would be attracted to in the first place. Your in the friend zone. No matter what you do, you won't get out of there.

    Best thing you can do if this is really getting too stressful, is walk away from the situation before things get even more awkward. It's going to be hard at first, but over time, you'll get over her.

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    edited March 2007
    Is this girl attached at the hip to her friends? Can't you invite her friends to do stuff with you without inviting her, too?

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    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • AndrewAndrew Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Grow up.

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  • AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Andrew wrote: »
    Grow up.
    ... D:

    anyway

    If you want to hang around with her and her friends, I think the best thing you can do is to go out and meet other girls and maybe you will meet someone else you can go romantic over. Distract the mind, so to say. Things will be awkward, I am sure. If you weren't afraid of ending up friendless, I would suggest to not meet her for a while.

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  • FloofyFloofy Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    But yeah, I'm getting off topic. So I love this girl, because she's witty, funny, nice, smart, unique, she's...everything I could ever want.

    WOAH there. That's a mighty fancy pedestal you're putting this girl on. Try to keep in mind she's not some god-blessed angel of joy and bliss and frolicking kittens. She's got as many flaws as the next person and the two of you are not compatable- she's already told you in no uncertain terms that' she's not interested. You're just as worthwhile as she is.

    However, at this point, you really do need to write her off as a romantic interest. If she's not interested, she's unlikely to change her mind, and hounding after her will just a. make you miserable and b. make her uncomfortable, as well as likely screwing things over with the rest of her friends.

    It might be a good plan to try to meet people outside her circle for a little while- clubs, hobbies, try chatting to other people around you- etc, so you can take a break from her proximity and get a clean look at the situation.

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  • Rabid_LlamaRabid_Llama Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    There is a big difference between love and infatuation man. They can feel very similar, but trust me, the difference is huge.

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  • Pants ManPants Man Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    There is a big difference between love and infatuation man. They can feel very similar, but trust me, the difference is huge.

    yeeeaaaahhh qft.


    dude, you're a junior in high school. you aren't in love, i promise. you've got a heavy infatuation based on your own (admitted) "sucker for romance" mentality and your own fear of being "alone". i mean, come on, your experience in 4th grade really hurt your personality that much? geez man, lighten uuuuppp.


    put down the austen novels and just try and have some fun. i'll tell you one thing: girls don't like guys (especially at that age) who obsess about this kind of stuff. you're a 16-18 year old guy, not a 40 year old woman. act like it.

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    "okay byron, my grandma has a right to be happy, so i give you my blessing. just... don't get her pregnant. i don't need another mom."
  • Ethan SmithEthan Smith Origin name: Beart4to Arlington, VARegistered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Pants Man wrote: »
    There is a big difference between love and infatuation man. They can feel very similar, but trust me, the difference is huge.

    i mean, come on, your experience in 4th grade really hurt your personality that much? geez man, lighten uuuuppp.

    Try not having any friends for the entirety of the age of 9 (and for a large portion of when you were 10). Try being socially isolated, hell, ridiculed, for two years that early in your life.

    It fucks you up, man.

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  • Pants ManPants Man Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Pants Man wrote: »
    There is a big difference between love and infatuation man. They can feel very similar, but trust me, the difference is huge.

    i mean, come on, your experience in 4th grade really hurt your personality that much? geez man, lighten uuuuppp.

    Try not having any friends for the entirety of the age of 9 (and for a large portion of when you were 10). Try being socially isolated, hell, ridiculed, for two years that early in your life.

    It fucks you up, man.

    oh come on dude, i was teased, made fun of, and had no friends for virtually all of grade school. 9 and 10? try 5 through 11.

    but here's the thing: instead of becoming wah wah i'm a horribly codependant person who seeks validation through friends, i ended up becoming my own person. in high school i was the homecoming king, and not because i sucked up to everybody, but because i decided i was going to have fun and be myself for a change. that's what got me friends, not retarded strategy before my senior year.

    here's my advice: you're way too hung up on this. in the long run, what happens during high school doesn't really count for shit. have fun, quit obsessing about how many friends you may or may not have, and live your life. i promise, PROMISE that people will want to hang around that guy more than a needy "hopeless romantic"

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    "okay byron, my grandma has a right to be happy, so i give you my blessing. just... don't get her pregnant. i don't need another mom."
  • LondonBridgeLondonBridge __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2007
    Andrew wrote: »
    Grow up.

    I agree. Don't get stuck on one girl, there is plenty out there! Date date date, get laid! You may come across a wonderful girl that you thought never existed before.

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  • Rabid_LlamaRabid_Llama Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I know this shit isn't what you want to hear, but it is so true. No matter what you think, everyone goes through stages of feeling isolated. It is just human nature.

    When you fall, do you get back up or do you lay there and bitch about it? The same principle applies to life. Just get up, brush yourself off, and keep on walking.

    Also, don't sweat what other people think about you. Just be yourself.

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  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I'm still dating the only girl I ever had doubts about. Infatuation is great at letting you pine and feel romantic, but it isn't anything you want to base a relationship on. Take a break from this girl, put some time into your hobbies, schoolwork, whatever.

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  • GrundlterrorGrundlterror Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    I'm going to jump on the boat of you are not in love with this girl. You are infatuated with her. Get over it, because it's not going anywhere. Don't worry about "not having friends." Probably the worst thing you can do with in your social life is try to carefully plan out every detail of it. You're going to end up giving your friends too much credit and letting them get away with shit you normally wouldn't (not saying your friends are crappy, but it's inevitable a situation like this will pop up once in a while) because you feel like they are your only option. It honestly sounds to me like you have some self esteem issues, stand on your own two feet.

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  • LakerippleLakeripple Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Are you boning any of the people in her social circle/your social circle? If not, why not? Your relationship with her will likely get nowhere if in her eyes you just hang on her every word, my advice would be to go fuck some other people on the side while your courting her. You're on a really slippery slope to isolating yourself from your social circle with her.

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  • SkyGheNeSkyGheNe Registered User regular
    edited March 2007
    Reiterating everyone in here and adding a bit...

    A hopeless romantic comes off as desperate and no offense, but all the desperate guys have trouble getting girls because of that clingyness. I used to be like that in high school, but you grow out of it and it is for the better.

    Be comfortable in your own skin. Realize that she is not a goddess (even though feelings may suggest otherwise) and be more nonchalant about things.

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