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[Mass Effect] Operation Raptor is Over! Kwoaru lusts for Batarians on page 101

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    ronzoronzo Registered User regular
    This pub group I'm playing with is pretty awesome.

    the guy playing our salarian infiltrator sang mordin's whole little song into voice chat

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    -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    there's not much a Krogan Sentinel can do that a Krogan Soldier can't do just as well

    -Tal on
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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    Who cares about recharge penalty on a krogan sentinel

    All you do is punch and shoot, there's no cooldown on either

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    ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    I've specced my krogan sentinel for melee and my soldier for just shotgunning and carnaging

    soldier might be better at both

    but I can't have both at the same time, so this is what I'll go with

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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    -Tal wrote: »
    there's not much a Krogan Sentinel can do that a Krogan Soldier can't do just as well

    Exactly.

    It's like, yeah, Krogan Sentinel can make good use of the Tech Armor's damage reduction, especially since you don't have to worry about recharge times.

    But in that case, Tech Armor is basically just functioning as a worse Fortification.

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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    -Tal wrote: »
    there's not much a Krogan Sentinel can do that a Krogan Soldier can't do just as well

    sentinels are better at melee since they take less damage and get melee boosts due to tech armor

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    -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    -Tal wrote: »
    there's not much a Krogan Sentinel can do that a Krogan Soldier can't do just as well

    sentinels are better at melee since they take less damage and get melee boosts due to tech armor

    Fortification has a better melee boost, just less damage reduction

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    DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    Doesn't fortification require it to be turned off to grant the melee damage bonus?

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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    -Tal wrote: »
    -Tal wrote: »
    there's not much a Krogan Sentinel can do that a Krogan Soldier can't do just as well

    sentinels are better at melee since they take less damage and get melee boosts due to tech armor

    Fortification has a better melee boost, just less damage reduction

    a sentinel with a shotgun with the blade on it and rage and tech armor has all the melee damage they need, they take less damage, and their melee boost does not rely on activation

    sentinels are better at melee

    fact

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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    Dubh wrote: »
    Doesn't fortification require it to be turned off to grant the melee damage bonus?

    yes

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    -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    the melee boost duration lasts longer than the recharge time so the activation isn't really relevant

    we're talking +80% vs +30% melee boost here

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    Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    Butters wrote: »
    The benefits just don't outweigh the recharge penalty and on top of that it seems the Sentinel class requires it to stay alive. Maybe the Brogan Sentinel is decent with good weapons but outside of that it feels like an incredibly underpowered class.

    My human sentinel doesn't really feel underpowered. But it feels like I am playing an adept

    (I don't use tech armor on him at all)

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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    you're still ridding yourself of your damage reduction

    which I would argue you need most at melee range

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    DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    Yeah, but I don't have to turn it off ever for my sentinel


    you can't call them equal in that sense

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    ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    also i have to say

    the hornet is really good

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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    I'm gonna build a sentinel based entirely around detonating tech armor

    I'll let you guys know how it goes

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    Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    The thing about Krogan Sentinel vs Soldier is...

    maybe Soldier is more effective at melee. maybe (I actually don't know)

    But I am already speccing my Sentinel for melee. It seems like I should focus more on ranged with the Soldier, given access to Carnage. Also like Shoe is mentioning - I need to purge my extra damage protection to get full benefit. I kinda want that protection when I am up close.

    KSent for melee. KSoldier for ranged

    I havent played my krogan soldier though so this is a lot of speculation

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    I'm gonna build a sentinel based entirely around detonating tech armor

    I'll let you guys know how it goes

    tried this

    in the words of jay sherman

    it stinks

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    -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    you're still ridding yourself of your damage reduction

    which I would argue you need most at melee range

    well it's only 10-15% less DR, I think that's worth it for 20-50% melee

    yeah you have to purge the DR to access melee, but that's only an issue the first time. The melee boost lasts long enough that you can chain the cooldowns to make it active forever.

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    MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    considering that the extra 50% damage doesn't make a large difference against most non boss like foes, i would rather have the damage reduction. I can already kill everythign short of brutes in one hit, why do i care if i can over kill them?

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    Dox the PIDox the PI Registered User regular
    So it takes 67 promoted multiplayer characters to get the "best" ending
    just to get a scale of how awesome those characters are at their jobs under 100 can take on the reapers without help from all the fleets in the milky way

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    ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    I'm interested in seeing how my krogan sentinel fares on silver

    I'm not gonna take a melee guy to gold

    and I already know it's laughably effective on bronze

    so as long it's reasonably effective on silver, I'm good

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    Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    Elendil wrote: »
    I'm interested in seeing how my krogan sentinel fares on silver

    I'm not gonna take a melee guy to gold

    and I already know it's laughably effective on bronze

    so as long it's reasonably effective on silver, I'm good

    As long as you aren't totally reckless it is pretty effective

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    chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    Dox the PI wrote: »
    So it takes 67 promoted multiplayer characters to get the "best" ending
    just to get a scale of how awesome those characters are at their jobs under 100 can take on the reapers without help from all the fleets in the milky way

    They are also dead even with a loyal Grunt. 5 points more than the most powerful ship non-Normandy in any fleet.

    Grunt is a boss.

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    godmodegodmode Southeast JapanRegistered User regular
    My problem with silver lately hasn't been my own fragility, but the incompetence of my random teammates.

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    Day of the BearDay of the Bear The Qun demandsRegistered User regular
    it works pretty damn well on silver.

    Just be careful if you're soloing banshees and you'll be fine.

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    The Good Doctor TranThe Good Doctor Tran Registered User regular
    Dox the PI wrote: »
    So it takes 67 promoted multiplayer characters to get the "best" ending
    just to get a scale of how awesome those characters are at their jobs under 100 can take on the reapers without help from all the fleets in the milky way

    Given some of the shit I have seen vanguards and adepts do I have no difficulty believing this.

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    -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    basically what I'm trying to say here is

    when am I going to get krogan vanguard

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    ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    i'm just glad to be liberated from turian sentinel

    every time i use that class i'm disappointed anew

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    turians are lame in multiplayer

    get real powers, chumps

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    The Good Doctor TranThe Good Doctor Tran Registered User regular
    I have used a turian soldier exactly twice, desperately trying to like him. I have failed both times.

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    MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    how does it feel to be so lame guys?

    I need to know.

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    ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    only classes I need now are quarian infiltrator and turian soldier

    kind of interested in the former

    do not give two shits whatsoever about the latter

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    turian soldier is badass

    proximity mine is boss

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    PeccaviPeccavi Registered User regular
    I enjoy turian sentinel. I could see doing it without tech armor, but with tech armor maxed I could still dish out overload as quickly as I wanted, slightly more powerful, and with a good amount of survivability. It's a good caster for the higher difficulties.

    Just need to level it up again after promoting it. Without tech armor maxed, yeah the cooldowns suck.

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    Melding wrote: »
    how does it feel to be so lame guys?

    I need to know.

    whoa when did I become a turian

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    BugBoyBugBoy boy.EXE has stopped functioning. only bugs remainRegistered User regular
    who the hell is badmouthing krogan sentinel in here

    bullshit your fortification is better than our tech armor

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    -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    oh, it's not better

    but it's comparable

    and that is why sentinel is the worst class in ME3, because it has no identity of its own

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    BugBoyBugBoy boy.EXE has stopped functioning. only bugs remainRegistered User regular
    who needs identity when you're a melee death god

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    ASimPersonASimPerson Cold... and hard.Registered User regular
    So I took my failed renegade Shep and imported her into ME2.

    Ah ME2, how I missed your broke-ass PC interface.

    (Okay, it's not really that broken but it is super annoying that scrolling and double-clicking doesn't work.)

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