The one you were forced to get due to Diablo (Blahblah#1234) is your battletag. Your email you use is your B.net Account Name and can be used right now to make B.net friends but most people are smart and don't want to pass out their account name which is also their email to people, especially since doing so exposes your real name.
Honestly I think all of the trinkets will be worth obtaining. They're a bit junky by comparison, but they'll probably be better than whatever trinket(s) you'll have at the time.
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Ugg they should just nerf the shit out of Raid Finder Deathwing already. So sick of terrible puggies.
Honestly I think all of the trinkets will be worth obtaining. They're a bit junky by comparison, but they'll probably be better than whatever trinket(s) you'll have at the time.
And who doesn't want to summon level-appropriate beer dwarves?
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Not to mention the dream of reaching a half million health.
Since the mods and such thread is long gone
I am trying to fix the caring meter to show 5 people but I forgot how since it does 2 or 3 now
/run local n,s,f,c,v,t,a,x=UnitName,SendChatMessage,"%d. %s %d (%.1f%%)","PARTY",GetNumPartyMembers(),math.random(10^5)s("Caring Done (Current Fight)",c)a=f.format for i=1,v do x=t/(i+1)s(a(f,i,n("party"..i),x,100*x/t),c)end s(a(f,v+1,n"player",0,0),c)
There's always that one guy who asks for meters after a boss kill, every time. Gee man, if you care that much about it then just download it yourself?
Coincidentally enough I knew a few people from previous guilds who would do that and it drove me up the fucking wall. It extended beyond that too, such as asking about boss abilities or whatever. I'm fine with answering questions about that for people, but not when the answer can be found in the Dungeon Journal. Or there'd be people who didn't watch videos or read the strats for a boss, and then ask "how am do this boss", to which my reply was "Wowhead. Tankspot. Learntoraid. Dungeon Journal." And then they'd get mad at me.
Also, there'd be the pre-pull "Anyone not know this fight?" followed by silence, so I would proceed to pull. Then someone would mess something up because they didn't know the fight and didn't speak up when they had the chance to.
yeah I ran into my nightmare again
The tank just cannot be kept up by one healer alone
I had que'd as dps shadow on my priest had to switch back to holy so I could heal and do dps :rotate: and then the tank had the gaul to use a dps meter and bitch at me for my lack of dps
What irks me with regards to dps metres; some trash asks for you to not just AoE everything and while I'm sure people can outgear it, if the tank leading the raid asks you not to, then I'm of the opinion that you should listen to the guy.
But you always get some that ignore what the tank says, and aoe anyway, then post the metres after to show how much more dps they did over the rest of the raid.
Did a Drak'Tharon Keep dungeon the other day. About half way through the dungeon one of the party members (Paladin) kept spamming recount just to show us chumps how much damage he was doing and stating that he was doing all the work. I agreed with him, got up from my computer, and made a sandwich. When I came back they had already killed the last boss, got my loot and left the party.
Guess im more passive about it when people show their E-Peens to other people. Give em a golfclap and move on.
I am not fucking joking when I say that reading some of these posts it blows my mind that these are real people. I'm sure there's plenty of trolls in there, but they can't all be trolling, and that people actually think and act this way is mind boggling.
I mean, from the blue tracker:
Posted by Volrag:
"appease people who think that paying for a game entitles you to see all the content"
Draztal response:
And why are they wrong on that thought? On which basis should someone think that he can not see the content even if he's willing to pay the subscription for it?
I mean, boy, I could go into a diatribe right now about how this kind of mind-bogglingly-stupid thought processess are at the core of some of our most regressive social principles, and get into politics, but I'll spare you.
I am not fucking joking when I say that reading some of these posts it blows my mind that these are real people. I'm sure there's plenty of trolls in there, but they can't all be trolling, and that people actually think and act this way is mind boggling.
I mean, from the blue tracker:
Posted by Volrag:
"appease people who think that paying for a game entitles you to see all the content"
Draztal response:
And why are they wrong on that thought? On which basis should someone think that he can not see the content even if he's willing to pay the subscription for it?
I mean, boy, I could go into a diatribe right now about how this kind of mind-bogglingly-stupid thought processes are at the core of some of our most regressive social principles, and get into politics, but I'll spare you.
I just...man, humanity is fucked, aren't we?
What the hell did I just read? I might go outside and slap the first person I see today. They'll pay for their fellow man's stupidity.
I don't see a reason to go into that thread. The LFR is here to stay, and I doubt very much that such a feature would be removed by people posting in the WoW forums saying it shouldn't be there (doubly so since it is the EU forums).
My only complaint about the LFr if it's to teach you how that raid works why not make it the raid but toned down like 25 people doing the 10 man content so we know what do to here and there. not have it be the face roll to loot and bag o disapointment
The worst part of that whole thread is that the OP actually has a valid negative point about LFR, then it just devolves into a shit storm.
Perhaps the solution to LFR is to make it not available for current content for a length of time. Say a month, when most high end raiding guilds will have downed most of the bosses already.
LFR doesn't really teach you how to raid. It's not designed to. It's designed to allow people to see content without the pre-requisite of knowing how or having the time to raid.
Yup. In all honesty 10man ICC, hell even Blackwing Descent, are way better to me than LRF DS. In those I actually learned what to look out for and had fun with it. I'd probably appreciate DS more if I had been in a 10 man run. But I either didn't have the time or didn't want to bother looking for a new guild at the time. I hope this new guild I am leveling a mage for has what it takes to tackle 10m panda raids.
LFR doesn't really teach you how to raid. It's not designed to. It's designed to allow people to see content without the pre-requisite of knowing how or having the time to raid.
Like I said it would be nice to teach you the content if you want to do it for real
LFR as it stands is not raiding. Its (2)5mans. I wouldnt even say heroic 5mans because most of the bosses in there are not even harder than some of the heroic 5man bosses. Seeing the content is a cop out as you are not seeing the content in a form much better than just watching videos on youtube.
I think if they want to fix LFR, and not just have it be an easy loot distribution node as it sits, they should make it what it really is. An intro raid. Have it contain story as an intro into the raid tier and actually teach people raid mechanics to get more people into the raiding pool. As it sits now raiding DOES NOT require fierce dedication. You could raid once or twice a week and eventually clear all the content.
Hell my guild who is a very casual raiding guild is almost 8/8 heroic in one night now.
Why? If you want to do content for "real" do content for real. You don't need a learning raid to do a normal raid to prepare for a heroic raid. It's not like raiding, inherently, has some profound learning requirements.
You just do it.
LFR, if you want to treat it as a teaching too, which again, it is not; already can serve that purpose. You can see the basic layout of fights, basic abilities of bosses so you can have some idea of what to expect. They can't have all the real mechanics of the fights to "learn" because a lot of people who can't or don't raid, do so for a reason. Some shit is just too hard for the average player. And that's fine. LFR doesn't need to replicate normal raiding, it isn't meant to be a third tier of raiding, and Blizzard has gone out of their way to make that point. The fact that some whiny raiders act like it's "required" to be viable to do real raids is their own problem.
LFR can already be a headache, as simple as many of its mechanics are. I can't even imagine the failure rate if it had normal raid mechanics.
If someone wants to learn to raid, ask their guild to take them along and show them the ropes. A few hours with that will go a lot longer ways to teaching someone about raiding than trying to make LFR a learning tool.
They could make it a hand holding based experience. We have Gloves, Chest, Shoulders, Legs and Helmets as tokens. You have 5 bosses that have one raid mechanic to learn that is appropriate for the tier. Click a button on time, stay out of fire, dispell a debuff, etc and make it a tuned down version. Not pants on head retarded tuned down like it currently is but enought to have people learn. At least then they would have tried to implement something into the game worthwhile rather than have it there just to be there.
Why? If you want to do content for "real" do content for real. You don't need a learning raid to do a normal raid to prepare for a heroic raid. It's not like raiding, inherently, has some profound learning requirements.
You just do it.
LFR, if you want to treat it as a teaching too, which again, it is not; already can serve that purpose. You can see the basic layout of fights, basic abilities of bosses so you can have some idea of what to expect. They can't have all the real mechanics of the fights to "learn" because a lot of people who can't or don't raid, do so for a reason. Some shit is just too hard for the average player. And that's fine. LFR doesn't need to replicate normal raiding, it isn't meant to be a third tier of raiding, and Blizzard has gone out of their way to make that point. The fact that some whiny raiders act like it's "required" to be viable to do real raids is their own problem.
LFR can already be a headache, as simple as many of its mechanics are. I can't even imagine the failure rate if it had normal raid mechanics.
If someone wants to learn to raid, ask their guild to take them along and show them the ropes. A few hours with that will go a lot longer ways to teaching someone about raiding than trying to make LFR a learning tool.
Take something like the ghost town of horde on Windrunner
Who in thier right mind is going to recreate pug 2.0? {it was a bunch of guilds who got together to raid vanilla-wrath and had agreements over loot and such}
Am I going to deal with Premonition's highway robbery prices to get the daggers on my rogue? or in general am I going to pay for a slot to get into a run?
I do the lfr because I have nothing better left to me if I wanted to raid hell I pugged to get glory of the hero done that in it self is an achievement
The lfr is not as bad as I have seen in some 5 mans take the nightmare I ran into my priest the other day
They really should let people BUY the lfr for valour points because I have gone every week on my warlock and keep losing the robe to someone's "off spec"
Now we can relive Warhammer Online and fly around on discs!
Honestly though, I really want one.
hah! I didn't even think of Warhammer. I was actually thinking of the Maly fight and how much I liked the disc portion. Sadly you won't be able to fight on these, but I still want it.
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There's a difference between seeing 'all' content and seeing 'enough' content. Like, I agree that if you pay you should be able to experience any raid you want. I disagree that you should somehow be able to do, say, heroic raids just cause you pay for the game. While I sympathize with people on the issue, the fact is that if you wanna do hard modes, you need to get better (and possibly move servers, sadly, as some are seriously dead) so that people will take you to do hard modes.
As someone who runs people through shit all the time (I hate to use the term carrying, but if the shoe fits, etc) I have nothing against people seeing content. I just get a little annoyed when people think they deserve to see top tier content cause, hey, they pay the same amount, MAN. Honestly, the argument kind of loses weight when you realize hey, those other people also pay money and have taken the time and effort to see the 'higher' content.
Of course, all that being said, Blizzard hasn't (and probably never will) nerf heroic content to the point where 'anyone' can do it. Even with the 30% nerf (which makes pretty much every fight a joke now for a seasoned raider) there are plenty of people who won't kill anything outside Heroic Morchok, so.. yeah.
There's a difference between seeing 'all' content and seeing 'enough' content. Like, I agree that if you pay you should be able to experience any raid you want. I disagree that you should somehow be able to do, say, heroic raids just cause you pay for the game. While I sympathize with people on the issue, the fact is that if you wanna do hard modes, you need to get better (and possibly move servers, sadly, as some are seriously dead) so that people will take you to do hard modes.
As someone who runs people through shit all the time (I hate to use the term carrying, but if the shoe fits, etc) I have nothing against people seeing content. I just get a little annoyed when people think they deserve to see top tier content cause, hey, they pay the same amount, MAN. Honestly, the argument kind of loses weight when you realize hey, those other people also pay money and have taken the time and effort to see the 'higher' content.
Of course, all that being said, Blizzard hasn't (and probably never will) nerf heroic content to the point where 'anyone' can do it. Even with the 30% nerf (which makes pretty much every fight a joke now for a seasoned raider) there are plenty of people who won't kill anything outside Heroic Morchok, so.. yeah.
Not one person has asked that "everyone" should be able to do heroic raids.
No one is talking about that at all.
You are literally making up an issue.
EDIT: the periodic nerfs to real raids aren't for non-raiders, they're for raiders who are already doing it and find it too challenging. If a better raid group has already done it, they have already done it. Just because someone else does it later easier, doesn't mean that they didn't do it in the first place, and absolutely nothing about it effects those raiders. It can be turned off. And if the raid group doesn't, they have zero right to bitch. Absolutely nothing about what some other raid group does in their raid, how they do it, whether they need help, whatever, effects a raid group that was already successful. Nothing about what another player earns in the game or how they earn it effects how you earned it. It is the most childish thing on earth. I feel like I need to repost that comic from a few days ago that points out just how silly it is.
EDIT2: And for reference, there wasn't some group of casuals demanding blizzard nerf ICC back when they started that. Blizzard made that decision of their own accord because they wanted more players to see the content they spent a lot of time creating. Arthas was a big fucking deal in Warcraft Lore and they didn't want such an important thing to only be seen by a very small % of players. It's a policy they've stuck to since then; by their own accord, and not due to player complaining that they "deserve" to see heroic modes or some nonsense. It's fine and dandy that some hardcore raiders out there want raid content to be "theirs" and fuck everyone else. But it's not their game, despite what they may think, and that narrow minded view flies in the face of what Blizzard, as a company, wants for their game.
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2) If you still, for whatever reason, want to keep doing that, then find another color as lime isn't readable on the default color scheme.
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Which beer dwarves the stamina trinket people fight for?
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I am trying to fix the caring meter to show 5 people but I forgot how since it does 2 or 3 now
I just use it when people spam the dps meter because that is beyond annoying
Coincidentally enough I knew a few people from previous guilds who would do that and it drove me up the fucking wall. It extended beyond that too, such as asking about boss abilities or whatever. I'm fine with answering questions about that for people, but not when the answer can be found in the Dungeon Journal. Or there'd be people who didn't watch videos or read the strats for a boss, and then ask "how am do this boss", to which my reply was "Wowhead. Tankspot. Learntoraid. Dungeon Journal." And then they'd get mad at me.
Also, there'd be the pre-pull "Anyone not know this fight?" followed by silence, so I would proceed to pull. Then someone would mess something up because they didn't know the fight and didn't speak up when they had the chance to.
I'm glad I don't raid with them anymore.
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The tank just cannot be kept up by one healer alone
I had que'd as dps shadow on my priest had to switch back to holy so I could heal and do dps :rotate: and then the tank had the gaul to use a dps meter and bitch at me for my lack of dps
But you always get some that ignore what the tank says, and aoe anyway, then post the metres after to show how much more dps they did over the rest of the raid.
Guess im more passive about it when people show their E-Peens to other people. Give em a golfclap and move on.
http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/230999-what-purpose-does-lfr-have/
The full thread is:
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/5035904684?page=1
And boy it is a doozy.
I am not fucking joking when I say that reading some of these posts it blows my mind that these are real people. I'm sure there's plenty of trolls in there, but they can't all be trolling, and that people actually think and act this way is mind boggling.
I mean, from the blue tracker:
I mean, boy, I could go into a diatribe right now about how this kind of mind-bogglingly-stupid thought processess are at the core of some of our most regressive social principles, and get into politics, but I'll spare you.
I just...man, humanity is fucked, aren't we?
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Yeap.
What the hell did I just read? I might go outside and slap the first person I see today. They'll pay for their fellow man's stupidity.
Perhaps the solution to LFR is to make it not available for current content for a length of time. Say a month, when most high end raiding guilds will have downed most of the bosses already.
Like I said it would be nice to teach you the content if you want to do it for real
I think if they want to fix LFR, and not just have it be an easy loot distribution node as it sits, they should make it what it really is. An intro raid. Have it contain story as an intro into the raid tier and actually teach people raid mechanics to get more people into the raiding pool. As it sits now raiding DOES NOT require fierce dedication. You could raid once or twice a week and eventually clear all the content.
Hell my guild who is a very casual raiding guild is almost 8/8 heroic in one night now.
You just do it.
LFR, if you want to treat it as a teaching too, which again, it is not; already can serve that purpose. You can see the basic layout of fights, basic abilities of bosses so you can have some idea of what to expect. They can't have all the real mechanics of the fights to "learn" because a lot of people who can't or don't raid, do so for a reason. Some shit is just too hard for the average player. And that's fine. LFR doesn't need to replicate normal raiding, it isn't meant to be a third tier of raiding, and Blizzard has gone out of their way to make that point. The fact that some whiny raiders act like it's "required" to be viable to do real raids is their own problem.
LFR can already be a headache, as simple as many of its mechanics are. I can't even imagine the failure rate if it had normal raid mechanics.
If someone wants to learn to raid, ask their guild to take them along and show them the ropes. A few hours with that will go a lot longer ways to teaching someone about raiding than trying to make LFR a learning tool.
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For whatever reason I love this mount and will work to get it asap
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Take something like the ghost town of horde on Windrunner
Who in thier right mind is going to recreate pug 2.0? {it was a bunch of guilds who got together to raid vanilla-wrath and had agreements over loot and such}
Am I going to deal with Premonition's highway robbery prices to get the daggers on my rogue? or in general am I going to pay for a slot to get into a run?
I do the lfr because I have nothing better left to me if I wanted to raid hell I pugged to get glory of the hero done that in it self is an achievement
The lfr is not as bad as I have seen in some 5 mans take the nightmare I ran into my priest the other day
They really should let people BUY the lfr for valour points because I have gone every week on my warlock and keep losing the robe to someone's "off spec"
Honestly though, I really want one.
Remove the disc. Make it yellow. Make a gnome monk in a purple gi.
hah! I didn't even think of Warhammer. I was actually thinking of the Maly fight and how much I liked the disc portion. Sadly you won't be able to fight on these, but I still want it.
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As someone who runs people through shit all the time (I hate to use the term carrying, but if the shoe fits, etc) I have nothing against people seeing content. I just get a little annoyed when people think they deserve to see top tier content cause, hey, they pay the same amount, MAN. Honestly, the argument kind of loses weight when you realize hey, those other people also pay money and have taken the time and effort to see the 'higher' content.
Of course, all that being said, Blizzard hasn't (and probably never will) nerf heroic content to the point where 'anyone' can do it. Even with the 30% nerf (which makes pretty much every fight a joke now for a seasoned raider) there are plenty of people who won't kill anything outside Heroic Morchok, so.. yeah.
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I always see people saying it's not fair that LFR exists and they 'must' run these.
Hard modes should exist, and should be, well, difficult or at least require competence.
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Not one person has asked that "everyone" should be able to do heroic raids.
No one is talking about that at all.
You are literally making up an issue.
EDIT: the periodic nerfs to real raids aren't for non-raiders, they're for raiders who are already doing it and find it too challenging. If a better raid group has already done it, they have already done it. Just because someone else does it later easier, doesn't mean that they didn't do it in the first place, and absolutely nothing about it effects those raiders. It can be turned off. And if the raid group doesn't, they have zero right to bitch. Absolutely nothing about what some other raid group does in their raid, how they do it, whether they need help, whatever, effects a raid group that was already successful. Nothing about what another player earns in the game or how they earn it effects how you earned it. It is the most childish thing on earth. I feel like I need to repost that comic from a few days ago that points out just how silly it is.
EDIT2: And for reference, there wasn't some group of casuals demanding blizzard nerf ICC back when they started that. Blizzard made that decision of their own accord because they wanted more players to see the content they spent a lot of time creating. Arthas was a big fucking deal in Warcraft Lore and they didn't want such an important thing to only be seen by a very small % of players. It's a policy they've stuck to since then; by their own accord, and not due to player complaining that they "deserve" to see heroic modes or some nonsense. It's fine and dandy that some hardcore raiders out there want raid content to be "theirs" and fuck everyone else. But it's not their game, despite what they may think, and that narrow minded view flies in the face of what Blizzard, as a company, wants for their game.
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