Salvia extraction

Ginzue

I have 1Kg of salvia and want to extract it down to 10x. I know that I need to take 90% and extract that, then mix with the 10% of leaf to get a 10x concentration.

My question: What do I use to extract it? All I know is that I need acitone (sp?) but the rest is grey area from there. How does extraction work?

Also: Salvia is a completly legal substance, so this tread is in hopes that it dosent violate any rules.

Thanks for any help!

The Cat

home chemistry is generally a poor idea, regardless of legality. Also, 'Acetone'. Which dear god you really should not ingest!

Feral

You can easily find instructions for this on any of the very well known websites on entheogens - for example, Erowid and Lycaeum.

Acetone itself is not particularly dangerous to ingest - I wouldn't go out of my way to drink it, but minute amounts aren't going to kill you (it is present in very small amounts in the human body and in just about every type of fruit). Most cases of acetone toxicity occur when either the body is generating higher than normal levels of acetone on its own (ketosis or diabetes, for example) or in cases of chronic exposure.

However, it is highly flammable, as are the vapors, and at some point in the extraction you'll have to boil off the excess acetone, which means you're going to have a highly flammable chemical near a heat source or open flame. It could also splash in your eyes, which is really really bad. You could easily hurt yourself if you don't know what you're doing.

I'm not suggesting you do it, and I'm not suggesting you not do it. Just be aware of the risk involved.

Shogun

Save yourself some time, effort, and mess and go to a store and buy some extract. Its regularly sold in 10x, 25x, and 50x strengths.

If you also want to save yourself some disappointment you could also just not bother with salvia period.

Filler Inc.

Yea, salvia isn't that great. For best experience you have to smoke it over a long period of time so the effect gets built up. But the first few times aren't that great.

Andrew

Read some trip reports on Erowid before you try it if this is your first time.

Al_wat

If the active molecules are hydrophobic then you could use a butane extraction method.

You have to be very careful though, because in the process you would be emptying a somewhat large quantity of butane gas into the air. Do it outside. Have absolutely NO SOURCES OF IGNITION. No lighters, no smoking anything, hell try to even reduce the amount of static that you would produce.

Acetone or alcohol methods are somewhat (in my opinion) more dangerous because you need a heat source (like a stove), which means you probably have to do it indoors where there are many sources of ignition and also the vapours don't really have anywhere to escape to.

You have to understand that chemical extraction can be pretty dangerous unless you know what you are doing. People who don't know what they are doing have died attempting chemical extraction of drug compounds.

redx

I'm pretty sure you can get by using a lowish setting on a hotplate, and vacuum distill the alcohol(and I guess water at some point) off. Probably a fair bit safer, and does not cost all that much, especially if you are going to make a habit of doing this kind of work.

so... umm... would asking after live cuttings be a forum no-no? It is not like it is illegal or anything, just slightly impolite.

If the active molecules are hydrophobic then you could use a butane extraction method.

they are not.



Salvinorin in naphtha.

Ginzue

Live cuttings? Seeds dude. Stuff grows like wildfire.


Yeah I plan to make a habit out of seeling Salvia at my college campus, but I'm makeing it at home.

Does anyone know of any picture walkthroughs on this kind of thing? Thanks for all the help already.

redx

Hit up Erowid they've got a few.


stuff I'd read implied that seeds are normally inviable and for infrequently. 'Live' not leaves. If you pack the right, you can ship them and they will stay alive for a while.

[Tycho?]

You may have better luck on Erowid, or a forum like totse.