Today I wondered if payload from TF2 would work in ME3 multiplayer
I think it could
Y'know, that could actually be pretty cool.
In general I'd just really like a few missions where it's all about your team staying together and pushing forwards towards a goal, instead of mostly just wandering around in laps and murdering everything.
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Garret Dorigan"Why can't I be DLC for UMvC3?"Registered Userregular
My only problem with the geth smg is that firing it keeps me out of cover way too long
And on engineers and other power based classes that's basically an invitation to death
The nice thing about most smgs is that you can fire in short bursts between power recharges
Can't really do that so much with the geth smg
The GMG has a very niche use that other smgs that fire that fast (Tempest/Hurricane) but have massive recoil don't have, and that is debuff capitalization. Doing the "Door Trick" with a power using class that has an armor debuff power (Warp, Incinerate, Cryo-Blast) you can tear through armor exceedingly fast.
The problem the GMG has is that everything that it can do (low recoil/high accuracy/high fire rate) the GPR can do better.
Think I'm gonna put the geth smg on my krogan battlemaster
Make him literally heavy weapons guy
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Garret Dorigan"Why can't I be DLC for UMvC3?"Registered Userregular
Yeah it works, but the rubber flap may cause some chafing.
The door trick is if you stand right by the frame of a door, not actually in cover just standing there, you can sneak your reticule around the frame and shoot enemies. Their shots, aimed at your center mass, will hit the wall on the other side of the door frame until they get to a certain angle of you in the door. It's great for Primes and Atlases, not much else.
As I said, it's a very niche thing, and the GPR can do it almost as well. I'd rather have a GPR.
Now if the rumor of a "Racial Familiarity Bonus" on weapons (that races get a damage and accuracy bonus on certain weapon classes) is true, which I don't believe it is, this may change things.
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Clint EastwoodMy baby's in there someplaceShe crawled right inRegistered Userregular
My only problem with the geth smg is that firing it keeps me out of cover way too long
And on engineers and other power based classes that's basically an invitation to death
The nice thing about most smgs is that you can fire in short bursts between power recharges
Can't really do that so much with the geth smg
The GMG has a very niche use that other smgs that fire that fast (Tempest/Hurricane) but have massive recoil don't have, and that is debuff capitalization. Doing the "Door Trick" with a power using class that has an armor debuff power (Warp, Incinerate, Cryo-Blast) you can tear through armor exceedingly fast.
The problem the GMG has is that everything that it can do (low recoil/high accuracy/high fire rate) the GPR can do better.
GPR doesn't shoot as fast, or has the same clip size potential (heat sinks and/or mag upgrade)
oh, and it's accuracy isn't quite as good
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OrcaAlso known as EspressosaurusWrexRegistered Userregular
To be fair, the GPR is a steaming pile of dog doo.
basically, get a bead on a bad guy's head and the GSMG outclasses the GPR, easily
In raw DPS, true. That also assumes that you will be spending time out of cover to spin up the GSMG, and holding the trigger down the entire time rather than throwing out powers. The argument I was making was for a power based class, like Engineer or Adept, that would want the low weight the GSMG affords them.
Conversely, to use Turian as an example (Which is where the recoil of the GSMG approaches that of the GPR) you are better served (in a comparison of staying out of cover:firing) with either a high level Tempest or Hurricane due to a much higher damage ratio. I mean, the Hurricane is a gun that hits like a Vindicator, fires as fast as a GPR, and kicks like Godzilla. Temper that kick and it is a Gau 3.
But, if mostly worried about the "feel" of the weapon, my favorite gun in the game is the Raptor, and we all know how contentious that gun is. So, opinions.
But, if mostly worried about the "feel" of the weapon, my favorite gun in the game is the Raptor, and we all know how contentious that gun is. So, opinions.
exactly
different guns work better in the hands of different people
and it's super annoying to see something I do quite well with get equivocated with being a bad player on a regular basis
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To be fair, the GPR is a steaming pile of dog doo.
Wasn't it you that was touting the Avenger? That's serious question tense, I can't remember.
Well, when I'm not being hyperbolic, the Avenger actually deals damage through armor on Silver (it's just as screwed on Gold). The Avenger's reload time is short enough it won't interrupt you (the same isn't true of the GPR). The GPR's time until it cycles up to maximum rate of fire is generally longer than you want to be hanging out of cover. Effective sustained DPS is lower than an Avenger's on anything except armored Gold opponents (where superior ROF wins out since both are minimum-damage capped)
The Geth Pulse Rifle is a weapon that is in almost all ways inferior to the Avenger, which is a common weapon--except the Geth Pulse Rifle is a rare.
But, if mostly worried about the "feel" of the weapon, my favorite gun in the game is the Raptor, and we all know how contentious that gun is. So, opinions.
exactly
different guns work better in the hands of different people
and it's super annoying to see something I do quite well with get equivocated with being a bad player on a regular basis
Indeed. That's why I try to keep any talk about guns and which is better than the other to strictly a numbers thing, then try to remember to temper that with the "lol opinions" tag.
Like the above line to Orca. From a strictly numbers basis, the new GPR is a direct upgrade to the Avenger if they are the same level. Same weight, fires faster, etc. But, a lot of people say the Avenger is leagues better of a gun. Another example, minus weight, is Mantis->Widow. Again, lol opinions.
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To be fair, the GPR is a steaming pile of dog doo.
Wasn't it you that was touting the Avenger? That's serious question tense, I can't remember.
Well, when I'm not being hyperbolic, the Avenger actually deals damage through armor on Silver (it's just as screwed on Gold). The Avenger's reload time is short enough it won't interrupt you (the same isn't true of the GPR). The GPR's time until it cycles up to maximum rate of fire is generally longer than you want to be hanging out of cover. Effective sustained DPS is lower than an Avenger's on anything except armored Gold opponents (where superior ROF wins out since both are minimum-damage capped)
The Geth Pulse Rifle is a weapon that is in almost all ways inferior to the Avenger, which is a common weapon--except the Geth Pulse Rifle is a rare.
Huh?
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To be fair, the GPR is a steaming pile of dog doo.
Wasn't it you that was touting the Avenger? That's serious question tense, I can't remember.
Well, when I'm not being hyperbolic, the Avenger actually deals damage through armor on Silver (it's just as screwed on Gold). The Avenger's reload time is short enough it won't interrupt you (the same isn't true of the GPR). The GPR's time until it cycles up to maximum rate of fire is generally longer than you want to be hanging out of cover. Effective sustained DPS is lower than an Avenger's on anything except armored Gold opponents (where superior ROF wins out since both are minimum-damage capped)
The Geth Pulse Rifle is a weapon that is in almost all ways inferior to the Avenger, which is a common weapon--except the Geth Pulse Rifle is a rare.
Huh?
I went to test it and I guess it's just an audio artifact. The gun counter looks like it's dropping at the same rate. The rest of my complaint holds, however.
In the demo I had a scoped avenger that I spammed adrenaline rush with, with maxed weapon and headshot bonuses
It was surprisingly effective.
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you should've just gotten some invites from "Mushpie"
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Read the description, people, it says right there that it's a mini-Spitfire.
180.
But it didn't occur to me to hold it down before there is anything to shoot at
And on engineers and other power based classes that's basically an invitation to death
The nice thing about most smgs is that you can fire in short bursts between power recharges
Can't really do that so much with the geth smg
done playin for now i think
Y'know, that could actually be pretty cool.
In general I'd just really like a few missions where it's all about your team staying together and pushing forwards towards a goal, instead of mostly just wandering around in laps and murdering everything.
The GMG has a very niche use that other smgs that fire that fast (Tempest/Hurricane) but have massive recoil don't have, and that is debuff capitalization. Doing the "Door Trick" with a power using class that has an armor debuff power (Warp, Incinerate, Cryo-Blast) you can tear through armor exceedingly fast.
The problem the GMG has is that everything that it can do (low recoil/high accuracy/high fire rate) the GPR can do better.
it's when you turn tricks through a doggy door
also known as double doggy style
can't say I heard of too many people gettin' it on double doggy style
does it work?
Make him literally heavy weapons guy
CRY SOME MORE
The door trick is if you stand right by the frame of a door, not actually in cover just standing there, you can sneak your reticule around the frame and shoot enemies. Their shots, aimed at your center mass, will hit the wall on the other side of the door frame until they get to a certain angle of you in the door. It's great for Primes and Atlases, not much else.
As I said, it's a very niche thing, and the GPR can do it almost as well. I'd rather have a GPR.
Now if the rumor of a "Racial Familiarity Bonus" on weapons (that races get a damage and accuracy bonus on certain weapon classes) is true, which I don't believe it is, this may change things.
I assume it can be useful in groups with decent people, but I fear turning it on in a pub.
oh well
You really didn't want to play Reapers Reactor Gold with a bunch of idiots tonight anyway.
perhaps there is hope
GPR doesn't shoot as fast, or has the same clip size potential (heat sinks and/or mag upgrade)
oh, and it's accuracy isn't quite as good
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I'd be happy if they upped the firing speed of it, but lowered something else a bit, like the accuracy or clip size
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How about its suckiness
Wasn't it you that was touting the Avenger? That's serious question tense, I can't remember.
In raw DPS, true. That also assumes that you will be spending time out of cover to spin up the GSMG, and holding the trigger down the entire time rather than throwing out powers. The argument I was making was for a power based class, like Engineer or Adept, that would want the low weight the GSMG affords them.
Conversely, to use Turian as an example (Which is where the recoil of the GSMG approaches that of the GPR) you are better served (in a comparison of staying out of cover:firing) with either a high level Tempest or Hurricane due to a much higher damage ratio. I mean, the Hurricane is a gun that hits like a Vindicator, fires as fast as a GPR, and kicks like Godzilla. Temper that kick and it is a Gau 3.
But, if mostly worried about the "feel" of the weapon, my favorite gun in the game is the Raptor, and we all know how contentious that gun is. So, opinions.
exactly
different guns work better in the hands of different people
and it's super annoying to see something I do quite well with get equivocated with being a bad player on a regular basis
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Well, when I'm not being hyperbolic, the Avenger actually deals damage through armor on Silver (it's just as screwed on Gold). The Avenger's reload time is short enough it won't interrupt you (the same isn't true of the GPR). The GPR's time until it cycles up to maximum rate of fire is generally longer than you want to be hanging out of cover. Effective sustained DPS is lower than an Avenger's on anything except armored Gold opponents (where superior ROF wins out since both are minimum-damage capped)
The Geth Pulse Rifle is a weapon that is in almost all ways inferior to the Avenger, which is a common weapon--except the Geth Pulse Rifle is a rare.
AFAIK it's the strongest weapon that gives you 200 cooldown
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Indeed. That's why I try to keep any talk about guns and which is better than the other to strictly a numbers thing, then try to remember to temper that with the "lol opinions" tag.
Like the above line to Orca. From a strictly numbers basis, the new GPR is a direct upgrade to the Avenger if they are the same level. Same weight, fires faster, etc. But, a lot of people say the Avenger is leagues better of a gun. Another example, minus weight, is Mantis->Widow. Again, lol opinions.
That title actually goes to the Predator. But fuck playing Cow Clicker while I'm playing Mass Effect.
because my drell adept is rocking the carnifex at 200%
Huh?
I went to test it and I guess it's just an audio artifact. The gun counter looks like it's dropping at the same rate. The rest of my complaint holds, however.
pretty sure the tempest has a higher damage number. could be wrong.
Yeah, but the Avenger can shoot in a straight line without the player having to constantly tilt down.
It was surprisingly effective.