I don't think it's possible to make a generalized statement about the field as a whole, seeing how it encompasses an enormous array of differing opinions, viewpoints, and methods.
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I mean that I'm pretty set in my own way of thinking. I realize that's my flaw.
But now that I think about it, my main problem with philosophy is that it seems to train people to miss the forest for the trees.
Could you elaborate?
Sure. I should say that my view of philosophy is restricted mostly to your more mainstream political philosophers. Classical Greeks, Rawls, Hayek *shudder*, etc.
Anyways, the philosophers I've encountered tend to create a world that closely resembles our own, but it is necessarily abstracted or idealized in some fashion. Then they run various thought experiments inside the assumptions of that world, and come to conclusions about what should be done based on their principles. Pushing a fat man onto the tracks and all that shit.
That's fine. It's not something I love to do, but whatever. The problem comes when people uncritically and universally apply these lessons to their world. In Rawls' world of well-meaning persuadable governors the difference principle always makes sense. In the real world it is complicated by the politics of envy. Philosophy tends to lend itself to a mechanical, rather than a holistic, view of the world, focused on relatively minor ethical dilemmas instead of the entire picture.
That said, there are a couple of political philosophers I like (Niebuhr and Machiavelli), so in retrospect my statement was rather silly. I guess I just have a problem with how philosophy sometimes is applied in the political realm.
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I can understand such a disdain for a more absolutist-like approach that philosophy brings to a subject. The field is, at large, highly systematic & analytical in form.
I'd love to see what you think of Kant.
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I can understand such a disdain for a more absolutist-like approach that philosophy brings to a subject. The field is, at large, highly systematic & analytical in form.
In other news my school's Student Government is currently having a Constitutional Crisis.
Pretty exciting.
good post.
Fuck student government politicking, holy hell.
My response to "HEY WOULD YOU LIKE TO SIGN THIS PETITION FOR [x]?" has become less cordial. If I see them coming toward me I change my posture and facial expression to try and give off an air of "I will stab you." It works pretty well!
I used to think I disliked any and all forms of philosophy until I took a course on medical ethics and realized that I only dislike philosophy when it's unmoored from anything remotely practical, like the "what is the nature of reality" shit that I'm sure is fascinating to more enlightened and mature people than I, or perhaps just to dudes who smoke hella weed, man.
In other school news, horrible Spanish presentation done, now on to writing a 15-page research paper about paramilitaries in Weimar Germany by next Monday.
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I used to think I disliked any and all forms of philosophy until I took a course on medical ethics and realized that I only dislike philosophy when it's unmoored from anything remotely practical, like the "what is the nature of reality" shit that I'm sure is fascinating to more enlightened and mature people than I, or perhaps just to dudes who smoke hella weed, man.
In other school news, horrible Spanish presentation done, now on to writing a 15-page research paper about paramilitaries in Weimar Germany by next Monday.
I used to think I disliked any and all forms of philosophy until I took a course on medical ethics and realized that I only dislike philosophy when it's unmoored from anything remotely practical, like the "what is the nature of reality" shit that I'm sure is fascinating to more enlightened and mature people than I, or perhaps just to dudes who smoke hella weed, man.
In other school news, horrible Spanish presentation done, now on to writing a 15-page research paper about paramilitaries in Weimar Germany by next Monday.
I used to think I disliked any and all forms of philosophy until I took a course on medical ethics and realized that I only dislike philosophy when it's unmoored from anything remotely practical, like the "what is the nature of reality" shit that I'm sure is fascinating to more enlightened and mature people than I, or perhaps just to dudes who smoke hella weed, man.
In other school news, horrible Spanish presentation done, now on to writing a 15-page research paper about paramilitaries in Weimar Germany by next Monday.
I find it really hard to make philosophical points without acting like your thoughts are the best. Before and after you make the point you can go back to being your open minded self, but during the discussion you gotta be a righteous silly-goose
In other news my school's Student Government is currently having a Constitutional Crisis.
Pretty exciting.
good post.
Fuck student government politicking, holy hell.
My response to "HEY WOULD YOU LIKE TO SIGN THIS PETITION FOR [x]?" has become less cordial. If I see them coming toward me I change my posture and facial expression to try and give off an air of "I will stab you." It works pretty well!
I do this with the Mormon missionaries on campus, but it doesn't seem to work
so instead I ask them questions that make them uncomfortable
philosophy, and really all of the humanities, are very very prone to the Dunning–Kruger effect
there is this terrible terrible woman in my sociology class who is the poster child for the Dunning Kruger effect. The best part is that she just keeps talking even after her ideas are shut down by the professor oh wait no that's the worst part and the professor never stops calling on her and I want to die every time she opens her mouth
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I don't think it's possible to make a generalized statement about the field as a whole, seeing how it encompasses an enormous array of differing opinions, viewpoints, and methods.
Could you elaborate?
Sure. I should say that my view of philosophy is restricted mostly to your more mainstream political philosophers. Classical Greeks, Rawls, Hayek *shudder*, etc.
Anyways, the philosophers I've encountered tend to create a world that closely resembles our own, but it is necessarily abstracted or idealized in some fashion. Then they run various thought experiments inside the assumptions of that world, and come to conclusions about what should be done based on their principles. Pushing a fat man onto the tracks and all that shit.
That's fine. It's not something I love to do, but whatever. The problem comes when people uncritically and universally apply these lessons to their world. In Rawls' world of well-meaning persuadable governors the difference principle always makes sense. In the real world it is complicated by the politics of envy. Philosophy tends to lend itself to a mechanical, rather than a holistic, view of the world, focused on relatively minor ethical dilemmas instead of the entire picture.
That said, there are a couple of political philosophers I like (Niebuhr and Machiavelli), so in retrospect my statement was rather silly. I guess I just have a problem with how philosophy sometimes is applied in the political realm.
I'd love to see what you think of Kant.
almost as dumb as Descartes
I more or less agree with him on world peace, though.
plus you're talking about philosophy
that's so many noogies you got comin'
also Rawls is alright
noogies are being prepped
For real.
Goals for this shit are a good 200 level French timeslot, another 300-level Sociology course, Drawing or a Design course, and something frivolous.
This term is pretty 'meh' because I keep slacking on my work, then wind up having no free time because I'm catching up on readings or projects.
Pretty exciting.
hee hee
its cute. They think they matter.
8-)
good post.
Fuck student government politicking, holy hell.
My response to "HEY WOULD YOU LIKE TO SIGN THIS PETITION FOR [x]?" has become less cordial. If I see them coming toward me I change my posture and facial expression to try and give off an air of "I will stab you." It works pretty well!
In other school news, horrible Spanish presentation done, now on to writing a 15-page research paper about paramilitaries in Weimar Germany by next Monday.
dogg
metaphysics is bitchin'
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Smoke more weed.
Seriously.
Smoke more weed.
Don't even need to.
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i see your Kant and raise you one Wittgenstein
we only did the first half of the textbook but I finished it over Christmas break because I am a GIANT NERD
I do this with the Mormon missionaries on campus, but it doesn't seem to work
so instead I ask them questions that make them uncomfortable
there is this terrible terrible woman in my sociology class who is the poster child for the Dunning Kruger effect. The best part is that she just keeps talking even after her ideas are shut down by the professor oh wait no that's the worst part and the professor never stops calling on her and I want to die every time she opens her mouth
the idea that the moderate between two options is always the best
"I think we should kill a hundred babies!" "I don't think we should kill any!"
"Guys, guys, calm down. Let's take the middle road and just kill fifty"