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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    I'm surprised a republican thinks there's something wrong with the Education system really, him saying that is a testament to how fucked up the education bubble is, it's worse than the housing one.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • Form of Monkey!Form of Monkey! Registered User regular
    I want to point out that people are saying that the chat thread on the video game webcomic website has gotten too nerdy for them.

    More like too nerdy EVEN for them.

    We're talking brave new heights of nerdiness.

    The undiscovered country.

  • Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Nova_C wrote: »
    Jesus, I hate these college cost projections.

    4 year costs, graduation in 2020:
    Public $93k
    Private $187k

    2025:
    $113k
    $211k

    2030:
    $136k
    $237k

    *shudder*

    Creating a generation of indentured servants.

    Wouldn't it be nice if wages had kept up with college costs? If anything college cost is a testament to how much people should be getting paid.

    Starting salaries for a college grad should be in the ballpark of $100-150,000

    But then they wouldn't be on the hook for 20 years of payments. And don't pay it? You get fucked up. Kneecaps, is what I'm talkin' here.

    Like, honestly, I see no other reason to jack tuition costs so high after decades of convincing everyone that post secondary is a hard requirement for success except to ensure a generation of poor people that are perpetually indebted to the rich.

  • 21stCentury21stCentury Call me Pixel, or Pix for short! [They/Them]Registered User regular
    Man, i just learned that, in japan, they have chocolate bread.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj_xNEWUtBk&feature=g-vrec

    i've been watching a lot of Japanese recipes/candy unboxing vids lately. ever since someone posted that tiny powdered hamburger kit video in chat, actually.

  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    spool32 wrote: »
    spool32 wrote: »
    Jesus, I hate these college cost projections.

    4 year costs, graduation in 2020:
    Public $93k
    Private $187k

    2025:
    $113k
    $211k

    2030:
    $136k
    $237k

    *shudder*

    It's a bubble, and it's unsustainable. I'm hoping the whole facade will crumble in the next two years - let the bloodletting commence before I have to start paying for it!

    Spool, I love you, but you need to start thinking about how the things you say sound to people.

    aaahahahaha I know, that sounded super heartless didn't it? But bubbles do need to burst and if there's one sector of the economy that needs to purge the cruft and get back to its core mission, it's college education. Our system produces so much waste and meaningless credentialing alongside the actual education, and something has to give.

    Bubbles need to burst sooner rather than later.

    I agree, but damn dude. Daaaaaaaamn.

    Preferably I'd like to structure it so that the bursting bubble won't fuck over an entire generation of kids, but the how to on that is where it gets complicated.

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  • BeNarwhalBeNarwhal The Work Left Unfinished Registered User regular
    BeNarwhal wrote: »
    Roger Moore best Bond.

    Timothy Dalton and it's not even close.

    :lol:
    BeNarwhal wrote: »
    Whenever chat gets too nerdy for me, I just read about + watch + play sports. Gotta balance things out.

    Plus I fucking love sports.

    Yeah, I love seeing a golfer run up and down the pitch after he hits a touchdown.

    :lol:

  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    also the current Miles Morales run of Ultimate Spider-Man is really good and was specifically designed as a good jumping on point for people who ain't read it up to that point

    it's an interesting perspective on the concept of a "legacy character", the idea that Miles is the second dude to be Spider-Man and instead of angsting about his dead uncle, he feels the weight of responsibility to live up to the heroic mantle he took upon himself

  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    Pony wrote: »
    also if you hate the idea of a black spider-man you a racist

    period

    there is no element of spider-man that is intrinsically related to his ethnicity

    the most iconic aspect of his personal identity is that of a New Yorker

    he could be black or hispanic or whatever, but New York is part of his identity

    which was Donald Glover's point, and i agree with him

    compare this to when Cuba Gooding Jr. got pissed that he couldn't play Daredevil

    Daredevil's identity is all tied up in Irish New Yorker shit, Hell's Kitchen is his stomping grounds and his dad was an Irish boxer and all that

    could you change that into something else? sure, but you'd lose something of Daredevil's character

    whereas Peter Parker's ethnicity is entirely unimportant

    Miles Morales is actually a pretty interesting character as well.

  • Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    Oh, and Khouri is refusing food and is perpetually hiding. Is this normal for a cat in new surroundings?

  • WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    Pony wrote: »
    also if you hate the idea of a black spider-man you a racist

    period

    there is no element of spider-man that is intrinsically related to his ethnicity

    the most iconic aspect of his personal identity is that of a New Yorker

    he could be black or hispanic or whatever, but New York is part of his identity

    which was Donald Glover's point, and i agree with him

    compare this to when Cuba Gooding Jr. got pissed that he couldn't play Daredevil

    Daredevil's identity is all tied up in Irish New Yorker shit, Hell's Kitchen is his stomping grounds and his dad was an Irish boxer and all that

    could you change that into something else? sure, but you'd lose something of Daredevil's character

    whereas Peter Parker's ethnicity is entirely unimportant

    I agree, and I'm fairly certain everyone here is all about black spiderman.

    I wonder, there's not some sort of silly legal loopholes that Marvel could try to jump through in order to produce an ultimate spiderman movie, is there?

  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Nova_C wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Nova_C wrote: »
    Jesus, I hate these college cost projections.

    4 year costs, graduation in 2020:
    Public $93k
    Private $187k

    2025:
    $113k
    $211k

    2030:
    $136k
    $237k

    *shudder*

    Creating a generation of indentured servants.

    Wouldn't it be nice if wages had kept up with college costs? If anything college cost is a testament to how much people should be getting paid.

    Starting salaries for a college grad should be in the ballpark of $100-150,000

    But then they wouldn't be on the hook for 20 years of payments. And don't pay it? You get fucked up. Kneecaps, is what I'm talkin' here.

    Like, honestly, I see no other reason to jack tuition costs so high after decades of convincing everyone that post secondary is a hard requirement for success except to ensure a generation of poor people that are perpetually indebted to the rich.

    Someone's gotta support the out of control costs of University administration.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • DynagripDynagrip Break me a million hearts HoustonRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Pony wrote: »
    it's actually really kind of annoying when people who aren't comic book fans have these deep, strongly held opinions about "iconic" versions of the character that are based on a movie or TV show or merchandise they might not even have first hand experience with

    like when people have strong-ass opinions on Superman but have never read a Superman comic in their god damn lives

    Some friend of one of my friends on Facebook was all HERPLE DERP, IT'S DUMB THAT IN THE NEW SPIDER-MAN MOVIE HE HAS WEBSHOOTERS THAT ARE GADGETS INSTEAD OF A SUPERPOWER

    uh that is how it is in the comics you fuck

    the "organic webshooters" thing was made up for the Spider-Man movie Sony made

    and then it propagated into the Ultimate version of the character
    Spider-Man 2099 had organic shooters.

  • DynagripDynagrip Break me a million hearts HoustonRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    also, Spider-Man 2099 was half mexican.

  • Dread Pirate ArbuthnotDread Pirate Arbuthnot OMG WRIGGLY T O X O P L A S M O S I SRegistered User regular
    superheroes are awesome and i keep wanting to get into comics but it's just too vast and intimidating and i don't know where to start diving in

  • FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    spool32 wrote: »
    Jesus, I hate these college cost projections.

    4 year costs, graduation in 2020:
    Public $93k
    Private $187k

    2025:
    $113k
    $211k

    2030:
    $136k
    $237k

    *shudder*

    It's a bubble, and it's unsustainable. I'm hoping the whole facade will crumble in the next two years - let the bloodletting commence before I have to start paying for it!

    It's going to require direct federal intervention, though, or else we're completely fucked. And I don't trust the government to make the hard choices they'll need to make.

    So what will probably happen is costs will continue to rise, the bubble will burst, all but the most prestigious colleges will severely curtail their services, leading to a greater gap in educational opportunities between the richest and the poorest students, which will cause the US to have a disadvantage competing against countries with more centrally-managed higher education systems in education-heavy industries like technology.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Yeah I am super excited about the web shooters thing. Neeeerddddy spiderman.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • VanguardVanguard But now the dream is over. And the insect is awake.Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    BeNarwhal wrote: »
    Vanguard wrote: »
    I hate Tolkien, and I will be seeing the Hobbit Day 1. That was his good book.

    I'm going to actually read the trilogy one of these days.

    This is the best. :bz

    I have tried to read the trilogy several times. I can't do it.

    Vanguard wrote: »
    I hate Tolkien, and I will be seeing the Hobbit Day 1. That was his good book.

    I'm going to actually read the trilogy one of these days.

    What are you? o_O

    A fantasy nerd that hates fantasy books. I'm working on getting over it.

  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    I want to point out that people are saying that the chat thread on the video game webcomic website has gotten too nerdy for them.

    More like too nerdy EVEN for them.

    We're talking brave new heights of nerdiness.

    The undiscovered country.

    Earth. Hitler. 1939.

    Lh96QHG.png
  • WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    Winky wrote: »
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    so maybe people who aren't comic book fans should stop talking out they'se ass about subjects beyond them

    Calm down, Pony.

    No, man, Comics are serious business.

    God, chat has been so incredibly nerdy this morning.

    I want to highlight some good topics:
    Should Archie be with Betty or Veronica
    Yordle pornography
    The relative size of federation class starships
    What if The Doctor was a woman
    Black spiderman

    Is that everything?

    i remember something about a petition, but yeah. that seems to be it.

    Is nerdy bad, Winky?

    Uh, p sure I'm really high on the list of nerdiest people here.

    I just never realized just how nerdy we actually are.

  • descdesc Goretexing to death Registered User regular
    I think people often try to apply generic novel-writing type fiction ideas to comics and then don't understand why so much of comics is the evolution and constant new-permutation <-> back to basics push and pull with iconography and minutiae of costumes and such.

    "Spider-man should just do this psychologically 3D thing and completely change" doesn't generate comic fan interest because Peter Parker isn't a character in a novel or a movie.

    There's just different demands in the storytelling and while it's no crime to be unfamiliar with these demands, I get where Pony is coming from with impatience after a while. It would be just as easy to HERP DERP any genre -- why doesn't the male lead just ask the girl out to dinner in the first ten minutes of the Rom Com? Why doesn't John Wayne get his balls blown off by a land mine?

  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    Dynagrip wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    it's actually really kind of annoying when people who aren't comic book fans have these deep, strongly held opinions about "iconic" versions of the character that are based on a movie or TV show or merchandise they might not even have first hand experience with

    like when people have strong-ass opinions on Superman but have never read a Superman comic in their god damn lives

    Some friend of one of my friends on Facebook was all HERPLE DERP, IT'S DUMB THAT IN THE NEW SPIDER-MAN MOVIE HE HAS WEBSHOOTERS THAT ARE GADGETS INSTEAD OF A SUPERPOWER

    uh that is how it is in the comics you fuck

    the "organic webshooters" thing was made up for the Spider-Man movie Sony made

    and then it propagated into the Ultimate version of the character
    Spider-Man 2099 had organic shooters.


    you know that's true

    i mean obviously I forgot about Miguel O'Hara and he's a different dude from Peter Parker

    but yes I suppose you are right

    he also had weird monster claws and venomous fangs and stuff, though

    Spider-Man 2099 was weird

  • Caveman PawsCaveman Paws Registered User regular
    I wonder what the diabetes trend in Japan looks like

    *googles*

    Mother of god!

  • GonmunGonmun He keeps kickin' me in the dickRegistered User regular
    BeNarwhal wrote: »
    Roger Moore best Bond.

    Timothy Dalton and it's not even close.

    Gotta side with my fellow Canuck on this one Monkey. Moore is definitely better then Dalton.

    desc wrote: »
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  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    Vanguard wrote: »
    BeNarwhal wrote: »
    Vanguard wrote: »
    I hate Tolkien, and I will be seeing the Hobbit Day 1. That was his good book.

    I'm going to actually read the trilogy one of these days.

    This is the best. :bz

    I have tried to read the trilogy several times. I can't do it.

    Vanguard wrote: »
    I hate Tolkien, and I will be seeing the Hobbit Day 1. That was his good book.

    I'm going to actually read the trilogy one of these days.

    What are you? o_O

    A fantasy nerd that hates fantasy books. I'm working on getting over it.

    In your defense, the trilogy has some really shitty prose in it. The Hobbit is much cleaner and easier to read.

    I'd attempt to hack it out though, they're well worth it in the end.

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  • FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Pony wrote: »
    also if you hate the idea of a black spider-man you a racist

    period

    there is no element of spider-man that is intrinsically related to his ethnicity

    the most iconic aspect of his personal identity is that of a New Yorker

    he could be black or hispanic or whatever, but New York is part of his identity

    which was Donald Glover's point, and i agree with him

    compare this to when Cuba Gooding Jr. got pissed that he couldn't play Daredevil

    Daredevil's identity is all tied up in Irish New Yorker shit, Hell's Kitchen is his stomping grounds and his dad was an Irish boxer and all that

    could you change that into something else? sure, but you'd lose something of Daredevil's character

    whereas Peter Parker's ethnicity is entirely unimportant

    One of the core aspects of Peter Parker's character is that he's financially downtrodden. He's poor, he has a terrible job, and his boss shits on him all the time. (A rich Spidey makes as much sense as a poor Batman.)

    So I think that works very well with him being a black kid.

    Feral on
    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • VanguardVanguard But now the dream is over. And the insect is awake.Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Pony wrote: »
    also if you hate the idea of a black spider-man you a racist

    period

    there is no element of spider-man that is intrinsically related to his ethnicity

    the most iconic aspect of his personal identity is that of a New Yorker

    he could be black or hispanic or whatever, but New York is part of his identity

    which was Donald Glover's point, and i agree with him

    compare this to when Cuba Gooding Jr. got pissed that he couldn't play Daredevil

    Daredevil's identity is all tied up in Irish New Yorker shit, Hell's Kitchen is his stomping grounds and his dad was an Irish boxer and all that

    could you change that into something else? sure, but you'd lose something of Daredevil's character

    whereas Peter Parker's ethnicity is entirely unimportant

    Miles Morales is actually a pretty interesting character as well.

    Well, the phrase Irish N...

    No I'm not going there.

  • ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    superheroes are awesome and i keep wanting to get into comics but it's just too vast and intimidating and i don't know where to start diving in

    Just pick a point. If you run into continuity questions then just ask Pony, Jacob or myself. If we can't answer them between the three of us, I'd be shocked.

  • WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    superheroes are awesome and i keep wanting to get into comics but it's just too vast and intimidating and i don't know where to start diving in

    I feel this way too.

    I want to get into Marvel comics, but (and maybe this is just comic book nerds being comic book nerds) I am told that picking up any particular run of comics is like summer-salting through a minefield.

  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    Winky wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    also if you hate the idea of a black spider-man you a racist

    period

    there is no element of spider-man that is intrinsically related to his ethnicity

    the most iconic aspect of his personal identity is that of a New Yorker

    he could be black or hispanic or whatever, but New York is part of his identity

    which was Donald Glover's point, and i agree with him

    compare this to when Cuba Gooding Jr. got pissed that he couldn't play Daredevil

    Daredevil's identity is all tied up in Irish New Yorker shit, Hell's Kitchen is his stomping grounds and his dad was an Irish boxer and all that

    could you change that into something else? sure, but you'd lose something of Daredevil's character

    whereas Peter Parker's ethnicity is entirely unimportant

    I agree, and I'm fairly certain everyone here is all about black spiderman.

    I wonder, there's not some sort of silly legal loopholes that Marvel could try to jump through in order to produce an ultimate spiderman movie, is there?

    I don't think so. It would just be confusing with this other Spider-Man movie.

  • ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    also if you hate the idea of a black spider-man you a racist

    period

    there is no element of spider-man that is intrinsically related to his ethnicity

    the most iconic aspect of his personal identity is that of a New Yorker

    he could be black or hispanic or whatever, but New York is part of his identity

    which was Donald Glover's point, and i agree with him

    compare this to when Cuba Gooding Jr. got pissed that he couldn't play Daredevil

    Daredevil's identity is all tied up in Irish New Yorker shit, Hell's Kitchen is his stomping grounds and his dad was an Irish boxer and all that

    could you change that into something else? sure, but you'd lose something of Daredevil's character

    whereas Peter Parker's ethnicity is entirely unimportant

    One of the core aspects of Peter Parker's character is that he's financially downtrodden. He's poor, he has a terrible job, and his boss shits on him all the time. (A rich Spidey makes as much sense as a poor Batman.)

    So I think that works very well with him being a black kid.

    Not just his boss, the world pretty much shits on him.

  • 21stCentury21stCentury Call me Pixel, or Pix for short! [They/Them]Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    also if you hate the idea of a black spider-man you a racist

    period

    there is no element of spider-man that is intrinsically related to his ethnicity

    the most iconic aspect of his personal identity is that of a New Yorker

    he could be black or hispanic or whatever, but New York is part of his identity

    which was Donald Glover's point, and i agree with him

    compare this to when Cuba Gooding Jr. got pissed that he couldn't play Daredevil

    Daredevil's identity is all tied up in Irish New Yorker shit, Hell's Kitchen is his stomping grounds and his dad was an Irish boxer and all that

    could you change that into something else? sure, but you'd lose something of Daredevil's character

    whereas Peter Parker's ethnicity is entirely unimportant

    One of the core aspects of Peter Parker's character is that he's financially downtrodden. He's poor, he has a terrible job, and his boss shits on him all the time. (A rich Spidey makes as much sense as a poor Batman.)

    So I think that works very well with him being a black kid.

    Speaking of poor batman, isn't Green Arrow basically that? If i recall correctly, at the beginning, Green Arrow was a rich man with an arrow cave and an arrow mobile and then he lost it all and became the guy who fights poverty and other social things, right?

    i'm probably completely wrong, please enlighten me. :)

  • Dread Pirate ArbuthnotDread Pirate Arbuthnot OMG WRIGGLY T O X O P L A S M O S I SRegistered User regular
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    superheroes are awesome and i keep wanting to get into comics but it's just too vast and intimidating and i don't know where to start diving in

    Just pick a point. If you run into continuity questions then just ask Pony, Jacob or myself. If we can't answer them between the three of us, I'd be shocked.

    but which point!! there are so many!

  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Jacob or Thom or any comic book nerd, could you find the classic ad where a shrimpy guy and his best gal are at the beach when a bully kicks sand in his face? Then the shrimp gambles a stamp and bulks up with a mail order gym?
    manoutofmac.jpg

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  • EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular
    summer-salting my ham

    "and the morning stars I have seen
    and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    desc wrote: »
    I think people often try to apply generic novel-writing type fiction ideas to comics and then don't understand why so much of comics is the evolution and constant new-permutation <-> back to basics push and pull with iconography and minutiae of costumes and such.

    "Spider-man should just do this psychologically 3D thing and completely change" doesn't generate comic fan interest because Peter Parker isn't a character in a novel or a movie.

    There's just different demands in the storytelling and while it's no crime to be unfamiliar with these demands, I get where Pony is coming from with impatience after a while. It would be just as easy to HERP DERP any genre -- why doesn't the male lead just ask the girl out to dinner in the first ten minutes of the Rom Com? Why doesn't John Wayne get his balls blown off by a land mine?

    the thing with super-hero comics specifically, that you pointed out, is that they follow "myth cycles" and very rarely are new characters wildly successful

    once in a while there's the odd breakout, but in the Big Two most entirely new characters stopped being a big thing in the 1980's

    nowadays it's all about legacy characters, reinvisionings, reinterpretations, etc.

    super-hero comics for DC and Marvel have turned into these full bodied mythological structures with specific icons and cornerstones, and even when they redo them (like DC's New 52) or spin them off into alternate universes with different interpretations (Ultimate Marvel), they still end up anchoring themselves around these iconic identities and roles, even if the people behind those masks change.

    people who don't read comics tend not to get that aspect of things, though

  • ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    superheroes are awesome and i keep wanting to get into comics but it's just too vast and intimidating and i don't know where to start diving in

    Just pick a point. If you run into continuity questions then just ask Pony, Jacob or myself. If we can't answer them between the three of us, I'd be shocked.

    but which point!! there are so many!

    Tell us a character or group you're interested in and we can give you a bunch of points.

  • Form of Monkey!Form of Monkey! Registered User regular
    Gonmun wrote: »
    BeNarwhal wrote: »
    Roger Moore best Bond.

    Timothy Dalton and it's not even close.

    Gotta side with my fellow Canuck on this one Monkey. Moore is definitely better then Dalton.

    Putting on my serious face for a moment, I really did like Daniel Craig's reboot Bond in Casino Royale. It's a shame that was followed up by Quantum of Solace, but that's neither here nor there.

  • Caveman PawsCaveman Paws Registered User regular
    superheroes are awesome and i keep wanting to get into comics but it's just too vast and intimidating and i don't know where to start diving in

    Digital comics are great since many older comics are only $0.99 so you can pick up a few famous issues of your favorite character and figure out what is what.

    Most comic book review sites (or make it easy on yourself and just ask in Graphic Violence) will give a write up of individual issues and will point out "this is a great jumping on point for new readers!" or something to that effect.

  • Dread Pirate ArbuthnotDread Pirate Arbuthnot OMG WRIGGLY T O X O P L A S M O S I SRegistered User regular
    oh god i keep clicking load more replies

    and it keeps getting worse

    THE INTERNET

  • WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    Eddy wrote: »
    summer-salting my ham

    Oh come on how am I supposed to know how to correctly spell that word.

    Do I look like a gymnast?

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