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It's International Workers Day

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    Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    Shit, you could even argue he deserves money more, since at least he is selling something

    I am pretty sure that that 200 dollar table wasn't 200 dollar because of the waiter's wonderful sales technique
    you'd be surprised! he sold them three bottles of wine, various upsells, etc

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    Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    being good at waiting tables can dramatically increase your ticket size and your ppa, a little bit of menu knowledge and sales skills go a long fucking way

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    Dongs GaloreDongs Galore Registered User regular
    Is May 1st as labor day very internationally recognized? It seems hilariously backwards to me if that's the case, since the day was originally set up based on a Chicago tragey, but Chicago's own country doesn't actually recognize it.

    It was proposed at a French Labor conference to memorialize the American tragedy, so that was kind of the point I guess

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    Shit, you could even argue he deserves money more, since at least he is selling something

    I am pretty sure that that 200 dollar table wasn't 200 dollar because of the waiter's wonderful sales technique
    you'd be surprised! he sold them three bottles of wine, various upsells, etc

    Okay, so you can't make the argument that my buddy deserves it more

    however, he didn't get anything else on top of his wage

    and neither should a waiter

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    UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    well it's like how America celebrates Christmas which commemorates an event that took place in another country

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    LiiyaLiiya Registered User regular
    I would like to get tipped more at work.

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    Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    this argument never goes anywhere. the decent people will keep tipping and the other people will keep having their "reasons" why they don't

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    LTMLTM Bikes and BeardsRegistered User regular
    @Solar, in the US, some of our big box electronics stores actually pay their sales staff commission, and then pay everyone minimum wage.

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Is May 1st as labor day very internationally recognized? It seems hilariously backwards to me if that's the case, since the day was originally set up based on a Chicago tragey, but Chicago's own country doesn't actually recognize it.

    We don't have labour day

    I always wondered when labour day was, actually

    ever since I read a spider-man comic where Spidey made jokes about it to a villain who wore white

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    LTM wrote: »
    @Solar, in the US, some of our big box electronics stores actually pay their sales staff commission, and then pay everyone minimum wage.

    Commission is not the same as tipping, though

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    Beef AvengerBeef Avenger Registered User regular
    Places that pay less than minimum wage because of tipping are so silly. Whoever thought that one up was probably a dick

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    LTMLTM Bikes and BeardsRegistered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    LTM wrote: »
    @Solar, in the US, some of our big box electronics stores actually pay their sales staff commission, and then pay everyone minimum wage.

    Commission is not the same as tipping, though

    Correct. I have no idea where I was going with that, really. Your friend's plight just made it seem relevant.

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    FirmSkaterFirmSkater Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    this argument never goes anywhere. the decent people will keep tipping and the other people will keep having their "reasons" why they don't

    Yeah they are basically selfish and self-righteous and there is no reasoning with them. Their conscience is clear and they will continue to ruin the day of young working men and women trying to support themselves on unlivable wages. Just ignore them.

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    this argument never goes anywhere. the decent people will keep tipping and the other people will keep having their "reasons" why they don't

    I am pretty sure I am a decent person

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    UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    Solar wrote: »
    Shit, you could even argue he deserves money more, since at least he is selling something

    I am pretty sure that that 200 dollar table wasn't 200 dollar because of the waiter's wonderful sales technique
    you'd be surprised! he sold them three bottles of wine, various upsells, etc

    Okay, so you can't make the argument that my buddy deserves it more

    however, he didn't get anything else on top of his wage

    and neither should a waiter

    do you tip anybody in service industries?

    bartenders? taxi drivers? valets? baggage handlers? barbers?

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    TamTam Registered User regular
    Don't restaurants in the US have to make up the difference if a waiter doesn't get up to minimum wage in tips+wage over the course of a shift?

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    UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    shoe shiners? maids? doormen? tailors? postal workers?

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    FirmSkaterFirmSkater Registered User regular
    Tam wrote: »
    Don't restaurants in the US have to make up the difference if a waiter doesn't get up to minimum wage in tips+wage over the course of a shift?

    Depends on the state. In Ohio its over the course of a pay period. At my restaurant a pay period is two weeks.

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    ArangArang HUEY LEWISRegistered User regular
    Is May 1st as labor day very internationally recognized? It seems hilariously backwards to me if that's the case, since the day was originally set up based on a Chicago tragey, but Chicago's own country doesn't actually recognize it.

    It was proposed at a French Labor conference to memorialize the American tragedy, so that was kind of the point I guess[/quote]

    it used to be bigger here (norway), with workers going out to march, sing and celebrate on the first and the bourgeoisie on the 17th, which is constitution day

    then the class divide faded and now it's mostly a day for unions and the far left, most people only come out on the 17th and the ones who do go on the 1st go both days

    I guess the right wants to remove it as a red letter day and move that day off to the 8th, liberation day

    anyway, historyyyyy

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    LTMLTM Bikes and BeardsRegistered User regular
    We fought the Revolutionary War so that we could have the right to underpay and overtip. Solar is just like the fucking redcoats, man.

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    UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    Ubik wrote: »
    shoe shiners? maids? doormen? tailors? postal workers?

    tinker? tailor? soldier? spy?

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    Slacker71Slacker71 subgenius RentonRegistered User regular
    Yes, May 1 as Labor day is very international. It was established at the second international of the Socialist party in 1889.

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    WietWiet Mao Mao Registered User regular
    The song isn't called The Internationale for nothing.

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Ubik wrote: »
    Solar wrote: »
    Solar wrote: »
    Shit, you could even argue he deserves money more, since at least he is selling something

    I am pretty sure that that 200 dollar table wasn't 200 dollar because of the waiter's wonderful sales technique
    you'd be surprised! he sold them three bottles of wine, various upsells, etc

    Okay, so you can't make the argument that my buddy deserves it more

    however, he didn't get anything else on top of his wage

    and neither should a waiter

    do you tip anybody in service industries?

    bartenders? taxi drivers? valets? baggage handlers? barbers?

    Not really, no

    To be honest, tipping those people isn't something I expressly don't do, it seems to be something that people, in my experience, just don't do. I can't think of any time someone I know tipped a bartender, for example. Maybe it's much more prevalent in the US.

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    Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    i bet you would be real fun to take to a strip club, solar

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    ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    Solar wrote: »
    Shit, you could even argue he deserves money more, since at least he is selling something

    I am pretty sure that that 200 dollar table wasn't 200 dollar because of the waiter's wonderful sales technique
    you'd be surprised! he sold them three bottles of wine, various upsells, etc

    Okay, so you can't make the argument that my buddy deserves it more

    however, he didn't get anything else on top of his wage

    and neither should a waiter

    does the waiter get paid minimum wage

    if not

    then fuck that noise

    if he does then yeah i agree

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    ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    Ubik wrote: »
    Solar wrote: »
    Solar wrote: »
    Shit, you could even argue he deserves money more, since at least he is selling something

    I am pretty sure that that 200 dollar table wasn't 200 dollar because of the waiter's wonderful sales technique
    you'd be surprised! he sold them three bottles of wine, various upsells, etc

    Okay, so you can't make the argument that my buddy deserves it more

    however, he didn't get anything else on top of his wage

    and neither should a waiter

    do you tip anybody in service industries?

    bartenders? taxi drivers? valets? baggage handlers? barbers?

    Not really, no

    To be honest, tipping those people isn't something I expressly don't do, it seems to be something that people, in my experience, just don't do. I can't think of any time someone I know tipped a bartender, for example. Maybe it's much more prevalent in the US.

    i keep forgetting you're not american

    in the US a lot of the people you might tip aren't actually paid minimum wage

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    FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    not tipping here makes you a fuckin' jerk though for sure

    maybe not in old blighty, but here, deffo

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    UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    Ubik wrote: »
    Solar wrote: »
    Solar wrote: »
    Shit, you could even argue he deserves money more, since at least he is selling something

    I am pretty sure that that 200 dollar table wasn't 200 dollar because of the waiter's wonderful sales technique
    you'd be surprised! he sold them three bottles of wine, various upsells, etc

    Okay, so you can't make the argument that my buddy deserves it more

    however, he didn't get anything else on top of his wage

    and neither should a waiter

    do you tip anybody in service industries?

    bartenders? taxi drivers? valets? baggage handlers? barbers?

    Not really, no

    To be honest, tipping those people isn't something I expressly don't do, it seems to be something that people, in my experience, just don't do. I can't think of any time someone I know tipped a bartender, for example. Maybe it's much more prevalent in the US.

    yeah it's just cultural, i was wondering if it was waitstaff in particular or tipping in general

    i tip anybody who's waiting on me or doing me a favor with a good attitude, especially if it's a place i want to come back to

    you take care of them and they take care of you

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Buttlord wrote: »
    Solar wrote: »
    Ubik wrote: »
    Solar wrote: »
    Solar wrote: »
    Shit, you could even argue he deserves money more, since at least he is selling something

    I am pretty sure that that 200 dollar table wasn't 200 dollar because of the waiter's wonderful sales technique
    you'd be surprised! he sold them three bottles of wine, various upsells, etc

    Okay, so you can't make the argument that my buddy deserves it more

    however, he didn't get anything else on top of his wage

    and neither should a waiter

    do you tip anybody in service industries?

    bartenders? taxi drivers? valets? baggage handlers? barbers?

    Not really, no

    To be honest, tipping those people isn't something I expressly don't do, it seems to be something that people, in my experience, just don't do. I can't think of any time someone I know tipped a bartender, for example. Maybe it's much more prevalent in the US.

    i keep forgetting you're not american

    in the US a lot of the people you might tip aren't actually paid minimum wage

    Right

    well

    that makes tipping make more sense, i guess

    over here, you don't tip bartenders or taxi drivers or hairdressers or whatever, at least in my experience

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    MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    You always tip your bartender in the US, and I don't see why you wouldn't elsewhere.

    You seriously expect the bartender to pay any attention to you when you're trying to order a second drink if you don't tip them?

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    UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    aint no reason to get down on another culture if they're gettin by

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Tam wrote: »
    Don't restaurants in the US have to make up the difference if a waiter doesn't get up to minimum wage in tips+wage over the course of a shift?

    yes

    but if you get at least 2 tables and are not complete shit you will make WELL over minimum wage

    in fact most waiters make more than chefs, even executive chefs depending on the place

    it's kinda bullshit

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    You always tip your bartender in the US, and I don't see why you wouldn't elsewhere.

    You seriously expect the bartender to pay any attention to you when you're trying to order a second drink if you don't tip them?

    Yes?

    Always?

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    I have never tipped a bartender in my life

    or seen anyone do it

    and I have never had nor seen anyone have problems getting served again, either

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    OdenOden Registered User regular
    I get laid an awesome wage and I get good tips because I'm good at what I do.

    win win

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    LTMLTM Bikes and BeardsRegistered User regular
    Bartenders in America don't give a shit unless you're waving paper money, or have your tits out.

    The second one is becoming more rare as bartending becomes a profession exclusively for women, though.

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