Alright, calling it. Wanted to see what Figgy would vote for village records but time's up. Might as well make the game a bit more interesting while I'm escorted to the stasis chamber.
I never asked for this.
Exposition dump incoming cause why not :rotate:
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Sidenote: working on Mother's Day at Best Buy is the worst. Like, the absolute worst. And why can't this game be simple, like the Community mini-phalla. At least in that one there aren't giant walls of text that are impossible to read during my break. Assholes.
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Right, so my accusations of kime, while legitimate, have been a bit overly forward. Like I've been too confident. Like I've known more than I'm letting on!
Assuran tried to convert kime (why does everyone love to convert kime) when he first lost Baidol. For some reason the host hadn't thought of this eventuality and kime wasn't a valid target, so the conversion bounced to a random padawan, me. Conversion ability got amended to kill an invalid conversion target after this.
So I've known that kime has been something unconvertable, either a special or mafia, the whole game. He's pretty clearly not networked, schuss was networked and he made that clear when I converted him. So, mafia.
The purple SK have had the power to jack planet abilities, we've learned that the mafia ones are a one-way busdriver (Nal Hutta) and the extra vig (Tatooine). Extra vigs are awesome so we really haven't learned of the jedi planets (sorry mafia! :P) since we wanted to keep getting vigs.
We used the one-way busdriver to save Saberovereasy the night he miraculously survived by busdriving the mafia vig into Alegis.
That's all for the concrete hidden evidence. Still got some more ideas of stuff.
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Yay. Now we can finally kill kime! Right guys ..... guys? ....
Assuran tried to convert kime (why does everyone love to convert kime) when he first lost Baidol. For some reason the host hadn't thought of this eventuality and kime wasn't a valid target, so the conversion bounced to a random padawan, me. Conversion ability got amended to kill an invalid conversion target after this.
Did you start SK from the beginning or get converted?
Are you the Last purple left?
Do you still think Kime Is really a red mafia?
Anyone else you suspect of being Red?
Did you actually rolblock Saber or do we need to kill bedlam?
- I was converted on night 2, started out as a jedi padawan.
- Yes
- Yes
- Blasphemer, Mascara, maybe Bedlam. I was going to try to convert Bedlam tonight as he was the last padawan. He could be the future of the jedi vig as some kinda "last gasp for padawans!" that the host has going, or that could just be a master given a vig.
- No, I actually lost the ability to use training/challenge upon conversion, hence the reason why JABmonkey (RIP dear old master) was murdered when saberovereasy went out and called for everyone to train up and roleblock stuff. I did automagically support like a light side jedi every night for the purpose of meditation results and planetary conquest. I suspect the sith padawan role is a bit different.
I am an outed mafia member, so you should ignore everything I have to say
I fixed that for you.
I swear, village, if you ignore Rule #1....
I knew you'd pull this!
I am currently an outed SK, and thus my actions are pretty unpredictable. Unlike a mafia I have nothing to gain or lose with misleading you, I've already lost. You'll have to guess for yourselves what they really are!
(granted I could be a red mafia and lying. My information becomes clearly what is when I die purple :P)
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I am an outed mafia member, so you should ignore everything I have to say
I fixed that for you.
I swear, village, if you ignore Rule #1....
I knew you'd pull this!
I am currently an outed SK, and thus my actions are pretty unpredictable. Unlike a mafia I have nothing to gain or lose with misleading you. You'll have to guess for yourselves what they really are!
(granted I could be a red mafia and lying. My information becomes clearly what is when I die purple :P)
Of course you knew I'd pull it, it's rule #1!! SK counts and you know it
I am an outed mafia member, so you should ignore everything I have to say
I fixed that for you.
I swear, village, if you ignore Rule #1....
I knew you'd pull this!
I am currently an outed SK, and thus my actions are pretty unpredictable. Unlike a mafia I have nothing to gain or lose with misleading you. You'll have to guess for yourselves what they really are!
(granted I could be a red mafia and lying. My information becomes clearly what is when I die purple :P)
Of course you knew I'd pull it, it's rule #1!! SK counts and you know it
You'd lie and do whatever you want to cause havoc. Other people are different. Facetious wanted the village to win when he was outed as a SK, I favor the same but not quite as much.
We used the one-way busdriver to save Saberovereasy the night he miraculously survived by busdriving the mafia vig into Alegis.
MVP goes the the SK team.
I believe I deserve some recognition for murdering both capfalcon and blarney as well :P
I suspect the mafia were ignoring the council members because they've learned, as I have through private clarification, that once all the village knights (non-councilors) are gone there will be no one to inherit the jedi planetary powers and sword of the jedi ability. I went on a hunting spree for the sith councilors because as a non-councilor I needed to get the mafia killing the original councilors, since I needed to hide among the knights since there was no getting promoted to councilor for me. So what better way than to kill their members?
Edit edit: we did murder saber the next day though :P
Oh, and the whole thing with the conversions is that each individual purple role can only win for themselves as the dark lord of the sith. Assuran just let me kill him because he thought he was doomed for some reason (despite getting a council seat, geeze).
There was some sort of prisoner's dilemna esque interplay between the master and apprentice. The apprentice could support the master to make their kill unblockable and unredirectable, but could also rise up to kill the master and convert a new apprentice. The master could use his kill or one of two abilities to counter the rise up ability: either to humiliate their apprentice and force them to support next turn, or to kill their apprentice and convert a new one. Both of these latter abilities only worked if the apprentice rose up, so you couldn't just keep killing and converting apprentices.
A secret thing that I don't know if it was a really good idea was that kills directed to the master were automatically busdriven to the apprentice. I'll save commentary on that for the post-game when I've thought about it more and see the whole picture.
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Oh, and the whole thing with the conversions is that each individual purple role can only win for themselves as the dark lord of the sith. Assuran just let me kill him because he thought he was doomed for some reason (despite getting a council seat, geeze).
There was some sort of prisoner's dilemna esque interplay between the master and apprentice. The apprentice could support the master to make their kill unblockable and unredirectable, but could also rise up to kill the master and convert a new apprentice. The master could use his kill or one of two abilities to counter the rise up ability: either to humiliate their apprentice and force them to support next turn, or to kill their apprentice and convert a new one. Both of these latter abilities only worked if the apprentice rose up, so you couldn't just keep killing and converting apprentices.
A secret thing that I don't know if it was a really good idea was that kills directed to the master were automatically busdriven to the apprentice. I'll save commentary on that for the post-game when I've thought about it more and see the whole picture.
^ oh, and various roles are conversion immune, among them all masters. So really hard for any newly converted guy to hide when the mafia has not much incentive to kill councilors over knights. Still an awesome idea on Obi's part.
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matev - village, has made some silly analysis, mafia are likely keeping him alive as he fears :P
warban - village, i'd be impressed if he was mafia
Anialos - village
Ketbra - village?
Nirya - who knows? Pretty quiet
Figgy - Possibly mafia, figgy's usually more vocal than this from what little I've seen of him. I wanted to convert him to be my apprentice but his knight had to go and get killed!
l3lasphemer69 - leaning mafia
mascara305 - mafia
Bedlam - mafia if the whole roleblock thing is correct. I'm kinda confused by that still!
Grunt's Ghosts - village, not very active though
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Pretty sure schuss was converted the night saber died, when Assuran was killed by his apprentice.
As long as its your decision, not mine that you are just blindly following...
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My force-ghost is not at all pleased with this posthumous defamation of my character!
OOOOooooOOOooo...
Exposition dump incoming cause why not :rotate:
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Sidenote: working on Mother's Day at Best Buy is the worst. Like, the absolute worst. And why can't this game be simple, like the Community mini-phalla. At least in that one there aren't giant walls of text that are impossible to read during my break. Assholes.
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Except Rawkking just revealed as the SK, I think? Purple text, anyway. What's that image supposed to be?
Assuran tried to convert kime (why does everyone love to convert kime) when he first lost Baidol. For some reason the host hadn't thought of this eventuality and kime wasn't a valid target, so the conversion bounced to a random padawan, me. Conversion ability got amended to kill an invalid conversion target after this.
So I've known that kime has been something unconvertable, either a special or mafia, the whole game. He's pretty clearly not networked, schuss was networked and he made that clear when I converted him. So, mafia.
The purple SK have had the power to jack planet abilities, we've learned that the mafia ones are a one-way busdriver (Nal Hutta) and the extra vig (Tatooine). Extra vigs are awesome so we really haven't learned of the jedi planets (sorry mafia! :P) since we wanted to keep getting vigs.
We used the one-way busdriver to save Saberovereasy the night he miraculously survived by busdriving the mafia vig into Alegis.
That's all for the concrete hidden evidence. Still got some more ideas of stuff.
Well yeah, we have a Sword and everything, who probably should have been killing kime anyway as soon as it looked like Rawkking would win the vote.
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Or murder the other mafia. I've got some ideas.
Anyone else you suspect of being Red?
Did you actually rolblock Saber or do we need to kill bedlam?
The revealed SK isn't asking to be saved.
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- I was converted on night 2, started out as a jedi padawan.
- Yes
- Yes
- Blasphemer, Mascara, maybe Bedlam. I was going to try to convert Bedlam tonight as he was the last padawan. He could be the future of the jedi vig as some kinda "last gasp for padawans!" that the host has going, or that could just be a master given a vig.
- No, I actually lost the ability to use training/challenge upon conversion, hence the reason why JABmonkey (RIP dear old master) was murdered when saberovereasy went out and called for everyone to train up and roleblock stuff. I did automagically support like a light side jedi every night for the purpose of meditation results and planetary conquest. I suspect the sith padawan role is a bit different.
I fixed that for you.
I swear, village, if you ignore Rule #1....
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I knew you'd pull this!
I am currently an outed SK, and thus my actions are pretty unpredictable. Unlike a mafia I have nothing to gain or lose with misleading you, I've already lost. You'll have to guess for yourselves what they really are!
(granted I could be a red mafia and lying. My information becomes clearly what is when I die purple :P)
Of course you knew I'd pull it, it's rule #1!! SK counts and you know it
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Would you save me? I mean, really?
I can actually busdrive mojo or someone else tonight to protect them, but for some reason I don't think you guys want a converting SK around!
I agree. We need to test killing !kime first before we jump to any conclusions on bedlam. Don't want to kill two villagers.
Yah, I don't really want one half of a Rule of Two team running around, even if they were swearing upon all that is unholy they would help.
You'd lie and do whatever you want to cause havoc. Other people are different. Facetious wanted the village to win when he was outed as a SK, I favor the same but not quite as much.
Back to SK talk.
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Jee, let me think about that :P
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I believe I deserve some recognition for murdering both capfalcon and blarney as well :P
I suspect the mafia were ignoring the council members because they've learned, as I have through private clarification, that once all the village knights (non-councilors) are gone there will be no one to inherit the jedi planetary powers and sword of the jedi ability. I went on a hunting spree for the sith councilors because as a non-councilor I needed to get the mafia killing the original councilors, since I needed to hide among the knights since there was no getting promoted to councilor for me. So what better way than to kill their members?
Edit edit: we did murder saber the next day though :P
There was some sort of prisoner's dilemna esque interplay between the master and apprentice. The apprentice could support the master to make their kill unblockable and unredirectable, but could also rise up to kill the master and convert a new apprentice. The master could use his kill or one of two abilities to counter the rise up ability: either to humiliate their apprentice and force them to support next turn, or to kill their apprentice and convert a new one. Both of these latter abilities only worked if the apprentice rose up, so you couldn't just keep killing and converting apprentices.
A secret thing that I don't know if it was a really good idea was that kills directed to the master were automatically busdriven to the apprentice. I'll save commentary on that for the post-game when I've thought about it more and see the whole picture.
Narration in about an hour. Maybe sooner.
Man. What an evil role.
Opinions on players to be regarded or disregarded as you please
matev - village, has made some silly analysis, mafia are likely keeping him alive as he fears :P
warban - village, i'd be impressed if he was mafia
Anialos - village
Ketbra - village?
Nirya - who knows? Pretty quiet
Figgy - Possibly mafia, figgy's usually more vocal than this from what little I've seen of him. I wanted to convert him to be my apprentice but his knight had to go and get killed!
l3lasphemer69 - leaning mafia
mascara305 - mafia
Bedlam - mafia if the whole roleblock thing is correct. I'm kinda confused by that still!
Grunt's Ghosts - village, not very active though