Instead of Zombie dice ... PAX dice game ??? something simple , along those lines I mean ..
That can work. Each dice represents a different stall. You either get swag, long lines or a shotgun blast to the face (or whatever the equivalent of rejection is at PAX).
Instead of Zombie dice ... PAX dice game ??? something simple , along those lines I mean ..
That can work. Each dice represents a different stall. You either get swag, long lines or a shotgun blast to the face (or whatever the equivalent of rejection is at PAX).
That would be amazing I would totally be down for that game!
I would pay anywhere from 10 to 15 dollars!
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Instead of Zombie dice ... PAX dice game ??? something simple , along those lines I mean ..
That can work. Each dice represents a different stall. You either get swag, long lines or a shotgun blast to the face (or whatever the equivalent of rejection is at PAX).
Shot gun blast = PAX Sars ??? No Game Play ? No Passes ?
Instead of Zombie dice ... PAX dice game ??? something simple , along those lines I mean ..
That can work. Each dice represents a different stall. You either get swag, long lines or a shotgun blast to the face (or whatever the equivalent of rejection is at PAX).
Shot gun blast = PAX Sars ??? No Game Play ? No Passes ?
Or : Swag , Cookies = good , long lines = bad
Just some random thoughts
I think that the no pass would work well
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OOohhhhh A mi me gusta, maybe it could be where the 1 face represents something extremely bad (i.e. No passes) while the 6 represents something super good (i.e., talk 1 on 1 with Wheaton) and then two people would roll, and see who got better results.
If you are going for real dice too, please make them translucent, the Pokemon peoples only allow translucent die.
Ok sounds like it's 50/50 right now... some want a set and some would be ok with just 1 die.
It all really depends on what the cost turns out to be and what people would be willing to pay...
I like the idea of a PAX dice game as well however as it is I think I may be getting into dangerous waters by wanting to use anything that is PAX copyrighted...
A PAX branded game would add more complexity and would probably be something for next year.
I am finding out about the copyrights as soon as I can here. If we can't do the PAX logo, I like @Cultural Geek Girl 's idea of forum related logos such as
(A mouse, a d-pad, a pencil, a cookie, a button, etc)
We'll see though, hoping to iron out some prices and designs by Friday next week which will leave adequate time for design and manufacturing.
I'll update here as necessary.
It won't have any PAX symbols, only a swag symbol, a no pass symbol, and a long line symbol...
We could call it "Expo Dice" or "Convention Dice"... So there would be no copyright problems except the fact that the rules are like zombie/Cthulhu dice and any way it's not like we are making a company like Steve Jackson games only a little inside "friend" only game... and for the Steve Jackson games copy right half problem we don't have to have the same rules...
I was also thinking about a Cthulhu dice type thing...
I have two ideas...
1. We are soon to be PAX attendees and we are fighting for the last Three day pass...
We have money or sanity... Cthulhu = Gabe and Tycho... Ect.
2. We are fighting for ether stop in line or swag...
We have energy to run or money... Cthulhu = Ether the store/game owner... Ect.
What do you guys think?
EDIT: I just noticed that the Cthulhu dice type game can't have Gabe and Tycho so yeah... We could replace Gabe and Tycho with someone labeled "The Man" or something like that...
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For the zombie dice version we would need six "Greens", four "Yellows", and three "Reds" So 13 all sides dice... which would cost- if each costs 2.50- $32.50 so the amount of dice would have to change because that is pricey... And if a 20d costs like $10 all custom the "Cthulhu" Dice would cost $10...
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As for rules we could have about six dice all the same with three swags, two lines, and one no pass... We would put the dice in a tube like zombie dice... Probably the zombie tube if you are a zombie dice owner... But for me I am making myself a custom one...If you get a "No Pass" then you are automatic out for that round... Basically the same as zombie dice and it only costs $15... I was thinking of giving mine to Mike and Jerry I would make a custom tube thing and everything... And from what I know about how super duper kewl they are they might include it in a PATV or maybe even a comic!!! *Sorry about my over thinking of everything I am just super exited for PAX! And anyways they probably won't... But what if they do! I will give full credit to Serenity and all other forum posters...
Just to make this clear this is not a commercial product and this is only for dice... But Serenity already said that...
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I might be interested in a set, preferably if they can be used as normal dice.
I'm very uncomfortable with the idea of straight-up-reskinning an existing product's game mechanics without permission.
However, what I think might be interesting is providing fun "mash-up" rules similar to the Boardgame Remix Kit or Knightmare Chess.
Something like this:
Can be used to create a variation of some popular dice games.
After you roll, your opponent may roll a PAX die. If the {cookie} appears, you may reroll one die. If a {D+Pad} appears, your opponent may reroll one die, etc.
Anyway, I think the dice should be designed in such a way as to have some utility outside of PAX while still being PAX themed. I'm a fan of one die with only custom faces (because I freaking love that kind of freakdice. I treasure always my Cardinal and Secondary directions D8), and then a few more dice with one custom face replacing either the one or the six.
(custom numerical faces is also an option, though that gets into design territory that is significantly more challenging design-wise.)
Whatever we end up with, if these end up being made, I promise to come up with some stupid game or remix rule that works with them.
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the dice need not just be decorative, they could actually be functional to a PAX attendee. Rather than having numbers on them with the highest number having a logo of come sort, why not have a series of icons or words that offer a suggestion as to what an attendee should do next while at PAX. For example, on a six sided dice you could have the following:
1) Wash your hands > image with hand and faucet
2) go to a panel > image of a mic
3) Go to Tabletop free play > Pic of a D20 on a six sided dice. Kind of meta I know...
4) Go to expo hall > Atari joystick
5) Eat > sandwich
6) go to Console free play area > Atari joystick with dollar sign crossed out
This makes the dice unique to a PAX Attendee as it can't be used anywhere else. It also makes a bit of a game out of going to PAX as you could have people slavishly following the commands of the PAX dice!
Now granted such a dice would not be functional outside of PAX, but my argument against that is that these dice would be memorabilia. They are supposed to remind you of something you experienced and a PAX dice developed by the community is exactly that.
There is the aspect of cost however and it's at that point we may have to go with the 6 sided die with the 6 being a special face. I propose that should be the little shield in the centre of the PAX crest, as that was developed by the PAX community and therefore does not have any copyright issues with PA.
the dice need not just be decorative, they could actually be functional to a PAX attendee. Rather than having numbers on them with the highest number having a logo of come sort, why not have a series of icons or words that offer a suggestion as to what an attendee should do next while at PAX. For example, on a six sided dice you could have the following:
1) Wash your hands > image with hand and faucet
2) go to a panel > image of a mic
3) Go to Tabletop free play > Pic of a D20 on a six sided dice. Kind of meta I know...
4) Go to expo hall > Atari joystick
5) Eat > sandwich
6) go to Console free play area > Atari joystick with dollar sign crossed out
This makes the dice unique to a PAX Attendee as it can't be used anywhere else. It also makes a bit of a game out of going to PAX as you could have people slavishly following the commands of the PAX dice!
Now granted such a dice would not be functional outside of PAX, but my argument against that is that these dice would be memorabilia. They are supposed to remind you of something you experienced and a PAX dice developed by the community is exactly that.
There is the aspect of cost however and it's at that point we may have to go with the 6 sided die with the 6 being a special face. I propose that should be the little shield in the centre of the PAX crest, as that was developed by the PAX community and therefore does not have any copyright issues with PA.
Don't forget PAX Pox! You can give that to someone.
the dice need not just be decorative, they could actually be functional to a PAX attendee. Rather than having numbers on them with the highest number having a logo of come sort, why not have a series of icons or words that offer a suggestion as to what an attendee should do next while at PAX. For example, on a six sided dice you could have the following:
1) Wash your hands > image with hand and faucet
2) go to a panel > image of a mic
3) Go to Tabletop free play > Pic of a D20 on a six sided dice. Kind of meta I know...
4) Go to expo hall > Atari joystick
5) Eat > sandwich
6) go to Console free play area > Atari joystick with dollar sign crossed out
This makes the dice unique to a PAX Attendee as it can't be used anywhere else. It also makes a bit of a game out of going to PAX as you could have people slavishly following the commands of the PAX dice!
Now granted such a dice would not be functional outside of PAX, but my argument against that is that these dice would be memorabilia. They are supposed to remind you of something you experienced and a PAX dice developed by the community is exactly that.
There is the aspect of cost however and it's at that point we may have to go with the 6 sided die with the 6 being a special face. I propose that should be the little shield in the centre of the PAX crest, as that was developed by the PAX community and therefore does not have any copyright issues with PA.
1) Wash your hands > image with hand and faucet - this works
2) go to a panel > image of a mic - like this one
3) Go to Tabletop free play > why not a 6-sided die pic?
4) Go to expo hall > person walking w/ backpack or two people talking
5) Eat > fork & spoon
6) go to Console free play area > console controller
And I agree - "This is a thoroughly fantastic idea."
Some exhibitors could potentially give away swag based on rolling your die at their booth.
I think I'd prefer the full set or just the d20. The unofficial PAX dice game, while cool and unique, would be pretty expensive and something I wouldn't really use. At least with a full set of normal, PAXerized, dice I would use them for other games I play.
Amusingly, some of the more recent ideas line up with a traditional con saying: 1-2-3. At least one shower a day, two meals, three hours sleep. Here are a couple quick ideas for making numerically useful dice with custom faces.
1 - a single shower head, faucet, drop of water
2 - two cookies
3 - While this would traditionally be sleep, we can replace it with panels! Three mics.
4 - DPad (it has four points!)
5 - PaxPox? Swag? Buttons? Too many possibilities.
6 - to get super meta, a D20. Or... a D6. hehehe.
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Amusingly, some of the more recent ideas line up with a traditional con saying: 1-2-3. At least one shower a day, two meals, three hours sleep. Here are a couple quick ideas for making numerically useful dice with custom faces.
1 - a single shower head, faucet, drop of water
2 - two cookies
3 - While this would traditionally be sleep, we can replace it with panels! Three mics.
4 - DPad (it has four points!)
5 - PaxPox? Swag? Buttons? Too many possibilities.
6 - to get super meta, a D20. Or... a D6. hehehe.
I like it! It's functional yet PAXey Unique.
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What we have to be mindful of is the limitations of the medium, in this case a 6 sided dice. The images have to be very simplistic, otherwise it will be nigh on impossible to put on the dice. This is why I went for iconography type of thing. Anyway, we have yet to hear from the person who is organising this, so let us wait and see what they come back with on the cost and logistics side of things.
While I think its a neat idea to have some kind of a game associated with a forum die I'd also want it to be usable for general playing, otherwise I'd probably end up passing on getting one.
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I like the ideas that are circulating around but it sounds like the general consensus is to have numeric functional die with PAX themed high sides.
The process with this one company I am dealing with is going... well... very slowly. They want a design before they even give me a price. And that answer took a week to get out of them.
I've sent off an email to Chessex so see if their process is more feasible and smoother.
But just so people get an idea of prices, here's what's posted on Chessex's website for custom D6s:
10-25 dice: $1.00 per side
26-99 dice: $0.75 per side
100-199 dice: $0.60 per side
200-499 dice: $0.50 per side
500-999 dice: $0.42 per side
1000+: please ask for quotes
Clearly the more we order the cheaper it will be... also as you can see, Chessex charges per side. So as cool as the game would be, it would cost about $20.
Also, doing another shoutout to anyone who would be interested in designing dice sides? Send me a PM...
Truly brilliant idea, this is something that I could see a lot of people wanting, beyond just the forum. I would buy a set to give out individual dies as gifts, plus a couple sets to keep for myself and close friends. $10 per set is what we should aim for to make it worthwhile and affordable.
Limitations and Possibilities:
• This is not a photographic process. Full color is not available.
• Any line graphic or text is possible.
• Very fine detail can be achieved.
• Production runs of 10 dice or more are possible.
• This unique process and great Chessex dice colors are a fantastic combination.
Capabilities:
• We can offer this process on six-sided dice with pips (spots) where the customized side is on the 1’s or the 6’s side in about 15 of our most popular colors.
• We can also offer this process on dice that can have all the sides customized.
• We have limited edition 20mm and 22mm dice that can be customized on all the sides.
• If you have a need for anything not covered by the above, please ask and we will see if it is possible.
Pricing:
10-25 dice: $1.00 per side
26-99 dice: $0.75 per side
100-199 dice: $0.60 per side
200-499 dice: $0.50 per side
500-999 dice: $0.42 per side
1000+: please ask for quotes
• These prices are for the 16mm six-sided dice and include the die itself.
• All orders must be accompanied with a credit card.
• Shipping costs are added to all orders with a $5.95 minimum.
Seeing this prices make the fully custom dice idea I had impractical. $6 for a single 6 sided dice is way too expensive. I therefore subscribe to the idea that we go for the 6 being a custom side as a default, and I once again submit that the PAX Community shield at the centre of the crest be the custom symbol.
All is not lost however for those who do want the full custom dice that I suggested above. What we can do is develop the images for the dice and place of the forums. If people want to order them at $6 a pop then they can using the designs shown here. Thoughts on this?
Seeing this prices make the fully custom dice idea I had impractical. $6 for a single 6 sided dice is way too expensive. I therefore subscribe to the idea that we go for the 6 being a custom side as a default, and I once again submit that the PAX Community shield at the centre of the crest be the custom symbol.
All is not lost however for those who do want the full custom dice that I suggested above. What we can do is develop the images for the dice and place of the forums. If people want to order them at $6 a pop then they can using the designs shown here. Thoughts on this?
It's going to turn out cheaper and easier for everybody if we do a bulk order instead of giving out the design and letting people order by themselves... (is that what you meant?)
The price is going to be what it is (with people's preferences in mind of course) and if the price fits, it fits. If not, sorry!
I agree with you @Kropotkin Your idea is a bit impractical from a financial standpoint. You're right though, all is not lost. If we do 1 custom sided D6 die, this will turn out a lot cheaper (less than $1/die).
One thing I'm looking at is doing a box set of 6 D6 dice. Based on Chessex's prices, this is doable for under $10/set.
The cost really depends on how many dice people end up ordering.
I am working with Chessex right now and am close to coming up with a tiered pricing system. Also they have colour options!
Once I get everything lined up, I will update the OP (or re-create the thread) and let people vote on designs and colours.
The boyfriend and I might be interested. I will chat with him about it and see what he says. Our fun money budget for PAX is limited this year due to me being unemployeed since December.
Serenity - The dice idea is an amazing idea, and everyone's ideas have been great, but.... For the first year I would keep it simple. No games, no sets, not too many graphics. Pick one type of dice, design the face for one side, include the year, keep the price point low and they will sell like crazy.
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That can work. Each dice represents a different stall. You either get swag, long lines or a shotgun blast to the face (or whatever the equivalent of rejection is at PAX).
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That would be amazing I would totally be down for that game!
I would pay anywhere from 10 to 15 dollars!
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Shot gun blast = PAX Sars ??? No Game Play ? No Passes ?
Or : Swag , Cookies = good , long lines = bad
Just some random thoughts
I think that the no pass would work well
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If you are going for real dice too, please make them translucent, the Pokemon peoples only allow translucent die.
It all really depends on what the cost turns out to be and what people would be willing to pay...
I like the idea of a PAX dice game as well however as it is I think I may be getting into dangerous waters by wanting to use anything that is PAX copyrighted...
A PAX branded game would add more complexity and would probably be something for next year.
I am finding out about the copyrights as soon as I can here. If we can't do the PAX logo, I like @Cultural Geek Girl 's idea of forum related logos such as
We'll see though, hoping to iron out some prices and designs by Friday next week which will leave adequate time for design and manufacturing.
I'll update here as necessary.
We could call it "Expo Dice" or "Convention Dice"... So there would be no copyright problems except the fact that the rules are like zombie/Cthulhu dice and any way it's not like we are making a company like Steve Jackson games only a little inside "friend" only game... and for the Steve Jackson games copy right half problem we don't have to have the same rules...
I was also thinking about a Cthulhu dice type thing...
I have two ideas...
1. We are soon to be PAX attendees and we are fighting for the last Three day pass...
We have money or sanity... Cthulhu = Gabe and Tycho... Ect.
2. We are fighting for ether stop in line or swag...
We have energy to run or money... Cthulhu = Ether the store/game owner... Ect.
What do you guys think?
EDIT: I just noticed that the Cthulhu dice type game can't have Gabe and Tycho so yeah... We could replace Gabe and Tycho with someone labeled "The Man" or something like that...
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and for no pass it is just a http://www.mieletlait.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/no-sign.png
With a pass on it...
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Just to make this clear this is not a commercial product and this is only for dice... But Serenity already said that...
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I might be interested in a set, preferably if they can be used as normal dice.
However, what I think might be interesting is providing fun "mash-up" rules similar to the Boardgame Remix Kit or Knightmare Chess.
Something like this:
Can be used to create a variation of some popular dice games.
After you roll, your opponent may roll a PAX die. If the {cookie} appears, you may reroll one die. If a {D+Pad} appears, your opponent may reroll one die, etc.
Anyway, I think the dice should be designed in such a way as to have some utility outside of PAX while still being PAX themed. I'm a fan of one die with only custom faces (because I freaking love that kind of freakdice. I treasure always my Cardinal and Secondary directions D8), and then a few more dice with one custom face replacing either the one or the six.
(custom numerical faces is also an option, though that gets into design territory that is significantly more challenging design-wise.)
Whatever we end up with, if these end up being made, I promise to come up with some stupid game or remix rule that works with them.
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the dice need not just be decorative, they could actually be functional to a PAX attendee. Rather than having numbers on them with the highest number having a logo of come sort, why not have a series of icons or words that offer a suggestion as to what an attendee should do next while at PAX. For example, on a six sided dice you could have the following:
1) Wash your hands > image with hand and faucet
2) go to a panel > image of a mic
3) Go to Tabletop free play > Pic of a D20 on a six sided dice. Kind of meta I know...
4) Go to expo hall > Atari joystick
5) Eat > sandwich
6) go to Console free play area > Atari joystick with dollar sign crossed out
This makes the dice unique to a PAX Attendee as it can't be used anywhere else. It also makes a bit of a game out of going to PAX as you could have people slavishly following the commands of the PAX dice!
Now granted such a dice would not be functional outside of PAX, but my argument against that is that these dice would be memorabilia. They are supposed to remind you of something you experienced and a PAX dice developed by the community is exactly that.
There is the aspect of cost however and it's at that point we may have to go with the 6 sided die with the 6 being a special face. I propose that should be the little shield in the centre of the PAX crest, as that was developed by the PAX community and therefore does not have any copyright issues with PA.
Don't forget PAX Pox! You can give that to someone.
This is a thoroughly fantastic idea.
Some exhibitors could potentially give away swag based on rolling your die at their booth.
That along with everything else sounds fantastic.
1 - a single shower head, faucet, drop of water
2 - two cookies
3 - While this would traditionally be sleep, we can replace it with panels! Three mics.
4 - DPad (it has four points!)
5 - PaxPox? Swag? Buttons? Too many possibilities.
6 - to get super meta, a D20. Or... a D6. hehehe.
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I like it! It's functional yet PAXey Unique.
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I like the ideas that are circulating around but it sounds like the general consensus is to have numeric functional die with PAX themed high sides.
The process with this one company I am dealing with is going... well... very slowly. They want a design before they even give me a price. And that answer took a week to get out of them.
I've sent off an email to Chessex so see if their process is more feasible and smoother.
But just so people get an idea of prices, here's what's posted on Chessex's website for custom D6s:
10-25 dice: $1.00 per side
26-99 dice: $0.75 per side
100-199 dice: $0.60 per side
200-499 dice: $0.50 per side
500-999 dice: $0.42 per side
1000+: please ask for quotes
Clearly the more we order the cheaper it will be... also as you can see, Chessex charges per side. So as cool as the game would be, it would cost about $20.
Also, doing another shoutout to anyone who would be interested in designing dice sides? Send me a PM...
yikes
Or is that price per *custom* side?
No that's the price off of Chessex for 6-sided dice.
If we go with only 1 custom side, it'll be a lot cheaper.
From the Chessex site:
Limitations and Possibilities:
• This is not a photographic process. Full color is not available.
• Any line graphic or text is possible.
• Very fine detail can be achieved.
• Production runs of 10 dice or more are possible.
• This unique process and great Chessex dice colors are a fantastic combination.
Capabilities:
• We can offer this process on six-sided dice with pips (spots) where the customized side is on the 1’s or the 6’s side in about 15 of our most popular colors.
• We can also offer this process on dice that can have all the sides customized.
• We have limited edition 20mm and 22mm dice that can be customized on all the sides.
• If you have a need for anything not covered by the above, please ask and we will see if it is possible.
Pricing:
10-25 dice: $1.00 per side
26-99 dice: $0.75 per side
100-199 dice: $0.60 per side
200-499 dice: $0.50 per side
500-999 dice: $0.42 per side
1000+: please ask for quotes
• These prices are for the 16mm six-sided dice and include the die itself.
• All orders must be accompanied with a credit card.
• Shipping costs are added to all orders with a $5.95 minimum.
All is not lost however for those who do want the full custom dice that I suggested above. What we can do is develop the images for the dice and place of the forums. If people want to order them at $6 a pop then they can using the designs shown here. Thoughts on this?
I mean, I see they sell d20 and others, but didn't see it as a customizeable option.
It's going to turn out cheaper and easier for everybody if we do a bulk order instead of giving out the design and letting people order by themselves... (is that what you meant?)
The price is going to be what it is (with people's preferences in mind of course) and if the price fits, it fits. If not, sorry!
I agree with you @Kropotkin Your idea is a bit impractical from a financial standpoint. You're right though, all is not lost. If we do 1 custom sided D6 die, this will turn out a lot cheaper (less than $1/die).
One thing I'm looking at is doing a box set of 6 D6 dice. Based on Chessex's prices, this is doable for under $10/set.
The cost really depends on how many dice people end up ordering.
I am working with Chessex right now and am close to coming up with a tiered pricing system. Also they have colour options!
Once I get everything lined up, I will update the OP (or re-create the thread) and let people vote on designs and colours.
No, Chessex is only able to do custom D6s and D10s. Also D20s would be about $20 each, which if you're most people is way to expensive.
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