I guess you weren't around for the first couple weeks of WoW then ;-)
I was, but that was like 7 years ago. How long do you need to get your shit together? :-p
Over an hour of maintenance? It's been playable for large chunks of time, they are just doing maintenance to bring more servers online. They have their shit together, they have the hardware read to fire up and go, and they are doing it.
It's been kinda playable. I don't count machine gunning login attempts to play and then get cut off as largely playable.
It's been a bad launch, and people are upset about it. They have a right to be so and to state it. End of story.
As someone who has played monk to level 16 and just set foot into act two, I want to put out a HIGH RECOMMENDATION for using Cyclone and Sweeping Strikes/Spin kick together with a pair of fast weapons (the crafted level 15 hand axes work great). It feels fantastic, and if you play with friends it will set up some insane AoE combos.
Did he? Nothin' yet. Thanks for the assistance though.
haha he's letting jamwarrior know that he sent him a code as he asked for one. Let Lou know if your friend doesnt use the euro code and he can dish it to someone else.
To the other dude: Yeah, you just insinuated that Activision is paying metacritic to remove the reviews, which is like... a colossally worse notion.
No, YOU insinuated that. And you're wrong. I was wondering if Activision was pulling some clout to get Metacritic to remove bullshit since I've never seen Metacritic remove any such user reviews as much as they desperately needed to. If Activision DID do that, they're completely in the right.
Did he? Nothin' yet. Thanks for the assistance though.
haha he's letting jamwarrior know that he sent him a code as he asked for one. Let Lou know if your friend doesnt use the euro code and he can dish it to someone else.
Ahhh I'm dumb. Yeah friend isn't using that code, so if someone has a US guest code they can spare I'd appreciate it!
No, that's bullshit. If I want to cheat in a single player game, you goddamn let me. I don't give a shit if other people are cheating in their single player games - why should I?
The "Diablo is a single-player game" crew is hilarious.
The Blizzard Defense Force(tm) is hilarious. Just when I thought the thread was gonna stay civilized.
As for the online-only thing keeping the environment hack free: give it 6 months and we'll see if it's true. I have my doubts that it'll stop any and all attempts, but it'll certainly delay things and make it easier to respond to new breaches.
You didn't play D2 did you? There is a need for the current setup, beyond just DRM. D2 was destroyed by cheating, absolutely destroyed. Hosting everything on Blizzard's servers greatly lessens those issues.
People just don't understand that, so they want to pitch a fit.
No, that's bullshit. If I want to cheat in a single player game, you goddamn let me. I don't give a shit if other people are cheating in their single player games - why should I?
That's simple: It's not a single player game. There is no single player mode. Only private password protected multiplayer lobbies.
Claiming that it's not a single player game is ludicrous. This is not Battlefield 3 where the only "solo play" option is versus bots.
It's not a single player game. You did not buy a single player game. You knew about this going into it. If you didn't want a multiplayer game, you shouldn't have bought a multiplayer game. Guess you didn't quite think through your purchasing decision, considering that all of this was known beforehand. Either that, or the game is still worth it to you, even knowing that it isn't exactly what you wanted... which is apparently a singleplayer game.
No, that's bullshit. If I want to cheat in a single player game, you goddamn let me. I don't give a shit if other people are cheating in their single player games - why should I?
The "Diablo is a single-player game" crew is hilarious.
The Blizzard Defense Force(tm) is hilarious. Just when I thought the thread was gonna stay civilized.
As for the online-only thing keeping the environment hack free: give it 6 months and we'll see if it's true. I have my doubts that it'll stop any and all attempts, but it'll certainly delay things and make it easier to respond to new breaches.
Plus if you get caught hacking, your blizz account gets banned. SC2/WoW/D3 all down the drain.
No, that's bullshit. If I want to cheat in a single player game, you goddamn let me. I don't give a shit if other people are cheating in their single player games - why should I?
The "Diablo is a single-player game" crew is hilarious.
The Blizzard Defense Force(tm) is hilarious. Just when I thought the thread was gonna stay civilized.
As for the online-only thing keeping the environment hack free: give it 6 months and we'll see if it's true. I have my doubts that it'll stop any and all attempts, but it'll certainly delay things and make it easier to respond to new breaches.
Given their track record with keeping wow hack free, I'm putting my money on Blizzard in this case.
You didn't play D2 did you? There is a need for the current setup, beyond just DRM. D2 was destroyed by cheating, absolutely destroyed. Hosting everything on Blizzard's servers greatly lessens those issues.
People just don't understand that, so they want to pitch a fit.
No, that's bullshit. If I want to cheat in a single player game, you goddamn let me. I don't give a shit if other people are cheating in their single player games - why should I?
That's simple: It's not a single player game. There is no single player mode. Only private password protected multiplayer lobbies.
Claiming that it's not a single player game is ludicrous. This is not Battlefield 3 where the only "solo play" option is versus bots.
It's not a single player game. You did not buy a single player game. You knew about this going into it. If you didn't want a multiplayer game, you shouldn't have bought a multiplayer game. Guess you didn't quite think through your purchasing decision, considering that all of this was known beforehand. Either that, or the game is still worth it to you, even knowing that it isn't exactly what you wanted... which is apparently a singleplayer game.
No, actually, I did not realize that even if my account authenticated I could be prevented from playing the game.
Can start single player sessions. Can play without others, without requiring bots. Can be considered single player game.
That also describes say, WoW. But it's not a single player game.
No, that's bullshit. If I want to cheat in a single player game, you goddamn let me. I don't give a shit if other people are cheating in their single player games - why should I?
The "Diablo is a single-player game" crew is hilarious.
The Blizzard Defense Force(tm) is hilarious. Just when I thought the thread was gonna stay civilized.
As for the online-only thing keeping the environment hack free: give it 6 months and we'll see if it's true. I have my doubts that it'll stop any and all attempts, but it'll certainly delay things and make it easier to respond to new breaches.
That's pretty much the point. There's no clear cut way to eliminate hacks completely, EVER. This allows them to do what you said, delay it and respond and eliminate much easier. I don't get how you can think it was meant to be some magic button to stop every malicious user.
Also just because someone sees the logic in a certain point, has a different opinion or agrees with the action Blizzard is taking, that doesn't make them the "Blizzard Defense Force" and, funny enough, you trying to label people who think differently than you as corporate drones makes the thread less civilized when you are the one acting like you're civilized for some reason.
I know emotions are running high right now people but it's important to keep in perspective that most likely after today there will never be server strain issues like this.
Killed the skeleton king with my demon hunter and he dropped a yellow ceremonial knife. Am I correct in assuming that if I put it in my stash I will be able to use it when I make a witch doctor?
It seems my decision to not worry about playing Day 1 was pretty wise. Tomorrow though... Oh tomorrow. I have all day to immerse myself... With some forced breaks, but still.
I know emotions are running high right now people but it's important to keep in perspective that most likely after today there will never be server strain issues like this.
No, that's bullshit. If I want to cheat in a single player game, you goddamn let me. I don't give a shit if other people are cheating in their single player games - why should I?
The "Diablo is a single-player game" crew is hilarious.
The Blizzard Defense Force(tm) is hilarious. Just when I thought the thread was gonna stay civilized.
As for the online-only thing keeping the environment hack free: give it 6 months and we'll see if it's true. I have my doubts that it'll stop any and all attempts, but it'll certainly delay things and make it easier to respond to new breaches.
Given their track record with keeping wow hack free, I'm putting my money on Blizzard in this case.
They've been reasonably good about WoW. There were segments where positional hacks were quite frequent (specially in Warsong gulch and later in instances), but apart from that I don't know of any major hacks in the game. I'm not a fan of the online-only thing (at. all.), but I can see the sense in the decision. At least to a certain extent.
I know emotions are running high right now people but it's important to keep in perspective that most likely after today there will never be server strain issues like this.
This isn't server strain. Blizzard kicked me out of a Single Player session after they took down the game creation servers. I was idle for maybe twenty minutes.
I don't know if the game servers kick idlers, but I think it's more likely you got kicked because of the emergency server maintenance happening right now.
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You didn't play D2 did you? There is a need for the current setup, beyond just DRM. D2 was destroyed by cheating, absolutely destroyed. Hosting everything on Blizzard's servers greatly lessens those issues.
People just don't understand that, so they want to pitch a fit.
No, that's bullshit. If I want to cheat in a single player game, you goddamn let me. I don't give a shit if other people are cheating in their single player games - why should I?
That's simple: It's not a single player game. There is no single player mode. Only private password protected multiplayer lobbies.
Claiming that it's not a single player game is ludicrous. This is not Battlefield 3 where the only "solo play" option is versus bots.
It's not a single player game. You did not buy a single player game. You knew about this going into it. If you didn't want a multiplayer game, you shouldn't have bought a multiplayer game. Guess you didn't quite think through your purchasing decision, considering that all of this was known beforehand. Either that, or the game is still worth it to you, even knowing that it isn't exactly what you wanted... which is apparently a singleplayer game.
No, actually, I did not realize that even if my account authenticated I could be prevented from playing the game.
Can start single player sessions. Can play without others, without requiring bots. Can be considered single player game.
So who you're really mad at is yourself for not realizing it was announced over a year ago that this was a multi-player, always online game, with no true single-player component. It's been shouted from the hills, posted many times by Blizzard employees, is in every FAQ about the game that exists, even says it on the box...but you didn't know that, so you think you're owed a single-player game.
You didn't play D2 did you? There is a need for the current setup, beyond just DRM. D2 was destroyed by cheating, absolutely destroyed. Hosting everything on Blizzard's servers greatly lessens those issues.
People just don't understand that, so they want to pitch a fit.
No, that's bullshit. If I want to cheat in a single player game, you goddamn let me. I don't give a shit if other people are cheating in their single player games - why should I?
That's simple: It's not a single player game. There is no single player mode. Only private password protected multiplayer lobbies.
Claiming that it's not a single player game is ludicrous. This is not Battlefield 3 where the only "solo play" option is versus bots.
It's not a single player game. You did not buy a single player game. You knew about this going into it. If you didn't want a multiplayer game, you shouldn't have bought a multiplayer game. Guess you didn't quite think through your purchasing decision, considering that all of this was known beforehand. Either that, or the game is still worth it to you, even knowing that it isn't exactly what you wanted... which is apparently a singleplayer game.
No, actually, I did not realize that even if my account authenticated I could be prevented from playing the game.
Can start single player sessions. Can play without others, without requiring bots. Can be considered single player game.
You didn't realize that, but it's been publicly known for what, well over a year now? Again, you didn't think through your purchasing decision. But calling a game that requires a server to host your game a singleplayer game is kinda silly. Stop trying to call a duck a chicken. And this is coming from a guy who is primarily going to play solo, but I knew what I was getting into beforehand, because I actually researched where my money went before spending it.
Killed the skeleton king with my demon hunter and he dropped a yellow ceremonial knife. Am I correct in assuming that if I put it in my stash I will be able to use it when I make a witch doctor?
I would test this myself but I can't log back in
I believe your chars all share the common stash, I would say you are good to go.
So I'm really really bored waiting for my test rig to cool down at work, so I did some math. If I'm doing this right, I calculate 34,125,000,000 possible skill combinations with the wizard without Elective Mode enabled. Even assuming a huge chunk of those are not viable or worthwhile, that is a lot of possibilities for building a character. Enable Elective Mode and that number goes beyond ludicrous. And people are complaining about a lack of customization in the game? Really?
-edit- That's assuming that you would always be using a rune on a skill. If non-runed skills are included I think the number goes up to almost 102 billion.
No, that's bullshit. If I want to cheat in a single player game, you goddamn let me. I don't give a shit if other people are cheating in their single player games - why should I?
The "Diablo is a single-player game" crew is hilarious.
The Blizzard Defense Force(tm) is hilarious. Just when I thought the thread was gonna stay civilized.
As for the online-only thing keeping the environment hack free: give it 6 months and we'll see if it's true. I have my doubts that it'll stop any and all attempts, but it'll certainly delay things and make it easier to respond to new breaches.
Given their track record with keeping wow hack free, I'm putting my money on Blizzard in this case.
They've been reasonably good about WoW. There were segments where positional hacks were quite frequent (specially in Warsong gulch and later in instances), but apart from that I don't know of any major hacks in the game. I'm not a fan of the online-only thing (at. all.), but I can see the sense in the decision. At least to a certain extent.
Played for years. Only ever saw a serious hack once.
The stash is shared among all your characters (per realm), yes
Also, I'm going to be playing this for YEARS. I can handle 24-36 hours of shaky servers.
If they're still crappy a week from now, I'll probably have some legit complaints.
I have a feeling this will scratch my MMORPG itch I've had since giving up the genre, without the feeling of needing to play 24/7 to get shit accomplished.
I started playing the starter version as soon as the streaming client let me and I didn't have any issues aside from occasionally having to wait a minute or so for it to finish downloading an area
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It's been kinda playable. I don't count machine gunning login attempts to play and then get cut off as largely playable.
It's been a bad launch, and people are upset about it. They have a right to be so and to state it. End of story.
That sounds awesome.
People were talking about the troll reviews being removed. You failed to see any context and immediately went to "ACTIVISION PAYS THEM??"
Did he? Nothin' yet. Thanks for the assistance though.
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But I am ready to plunge back into the depths of hell.
At any rate, have three guest passes (Americas) if anyone still needs one. Just PM me if you want one.
haha he's letting jamwarrior know that he sent him a code as he asked for one. Let Lou know if your friend doesnt use the euro code and he can dish it to someone else.
I want to know more PA people on Twitter.
How is that not you plainly insinuating Activision bribed metacritic.
Same EU side.
Ahhh I'm dumb. Yeah friend isn't using that code, so if someone has a US guest code they can spare I'd appreciate it!
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Same.
The Blizzard Defense Force(tm) is hilarious. Just when I thought the thread was gonna stay civilized.
As for the online-only thing keeping the environment hack free: give it 6 months and we'll see if it's true. I have my doubts that it'll stop any and all attempts, but it'll certainly delay things and make it easier to respond to new breaches.
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It's not a single player game. You did not buy a single player game. You knew about this going into it. If you didn't want a multiplayer game, you shouldn't have bought a multiplayer game. Guess you didn't quite think through your purchasing decision, considering that all of this was known beforehand. Either that, or the game is still worth it to you, even knowing that it isn't exactly what you wanted... which is apparently a singleplayer game.
Plus if you get caught hacking, your blizz account gets banned. SC2/WoW/D3 all down the drain.
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Given their track record with keeping wow hack free, I'm putting my money on Blizzard in this case.
That also describes say, WoW. But it's not a single player game.
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That's pretty much the point. There's no clear cut way to eliminate hacks completely, EVER. This allows them to do what you said, delay it and respond and eliminate much easier. I don't get how you can think it was meant to be some magic button to stop every malicious user.
Also just because someone sees the logic in a certain point, has a different opinion or agrees with the action Blizzard is taking, that doesn't make them the "Blizzard Defense Force" and, funny enough, you trying to label people who think differently than you as corporate drones makes the thread less civilized when you are the one acting like you're civilized for some reason.
I would test this myself but I can't log back in
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Also, I'm going to be playing this for YEARS. I can handle 24-36 hours of shaky servers.
If they're still crappy a week from now, I'll probably have some legit complaints.
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And you can't do that in D3. You can choose to play by yourself, just like in WoW though.
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Until the inevitable expansion hits ;-)
They've been reasonably good about WoW. There were segments where positional hacks were quite frequent (specially in Warsong gulch and later in instances), but apart from that I don't know of any major hacks in the game. I'm not a fan of the online-only thing (at. all.), but I can see the sense in the decision. At least to a certain extent.
Currently playing: GW2 and TSW
I don't know if the game servers kick idlers, but I think it's more likely you got kicked because of the emergency server maintenance happening right now.
So who you're really mad at is yourself for not realizing it was announced over a year ago that this was a multi-player, always online game, with no true single-player component. It's been shouted from the hills, posted many times by Blizzard employees, is in every FAQ about the game that exists, even says it on the box...but you didn't know that, so you think you're owed a single-player game.
You didn't realize that, but it's been publicly known for what, well over a year now? Again, you didn't think through your purchasing decision. But calling a game that requires a server to host your game a singleplayer game is kinda silly. Stop trying to call a duck a chicken. And this is coming from a guy who is primarily going to play solo, but I knew what I was getting into beforehand, because I actually researched where my money went before spending it.
I believe your chars all share the common stash, I would say you are good to go.
-edit- That's assuming that you would always be using a rune on a skill. If non-runed skills are included I think the number goes up to almost 102 billion.
Played for years. Only ever saw a serious hack once.
I have a feeling this will scratch my MMORPG itch I've had since giving up the genre, without the feeling of needing to play 24/7 to get shit accomplished.
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