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[Diablo 3] Welcome back to Hell. Turn on Elective Mode. NO SPOILERS.

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    jdarksun wrote: »
    jdarksun wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    jdarksun wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    You didn't play D2 did you? There is a need for the current setup, beyond just DRM. D2 was destroyed by cheating, absolutely destroyed. Hosting everything on Blizzard's servers greatly lessens those issues.

    People just don't understand that, so they want to pitch a fit.
    No, that's bullshit. If I want to cheat in a single player game, you goddamn let me. I don't give a shit if other people are cheating in their single player games - why should I?
    That's simple: It's not a single player game. There is no single player mode. Only private password protected multiplayer lobbies.
    Claiming that it's not a single player game is ludicrous. This is not Battlefield 3 where the only "solo play" option is versus bots.
    It's not a single player game. You did not buy a single player game. You knew about this going into it. If you didn't want a multiplayer game, you shouldn't have bought a multiplayer game. Guess you didn't quite think through your purchasing decision, considering that all of this was known beforehand. Either that, or the game is still worth it to you, even knowing that it isn't exactly what you wanted... which is apparently a singleplayer game.
    No, actually, I did not realize that even if my account authenticated I could be prevented from playing the game.

    Can start single player sessions. Can play without others, without requiring bots. Can be considered single player game.

    You didn't realize that, but it's been publicly known for what, well over a year now? Again, you didn't think through your purchasing decision. But calling a game that requires a server to host your game a singleplayer game is kinda silly. Stop trying to call a duck a chicken. And this is coming from a guy who is primarily going to play solo, but I knew what I was getting into beforehand, because I actually researched where my money went before spending it.

    I define a single player game as a game you play by yourself

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  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    jdarksun wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    jdarksun wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    jdarksun wrote: »
    Can start single player sessions. Can play without others, without requiring bots. Can be considered single player game.
    That also describes say, WoW. But it's not a single player game.
    You can not, actually, start a private session of WoW.
    And you can't do that in D3. You can choose to play by yourself, just like in WoW though.
    You can, actually, start a private session of Diablo 3.
    It's very similar to playing by yourself in WoW though. You just ignore other players, but they're still there. The online components still exist, like the AH and stuff.

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  • ScosglenScosglen Registered User regular
    I'll say this, If serious hacking and duping becomes an issue with D3 like it did with D2, then yes, people will be more than justified to crucify Blizzard's online-only requirement when the only valid reason for doing it didn't work.

    That has to actually happen first though.

  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    That's pretty much my thoughts exactly, UM.

  • SmoogySmoogy Registered User regular
    chrisnl wrote: »
    So I'm really really bored waiting for my test rig to cool down at work, so I did some math. If I'm doing this right, I calculate 34,125,000,000 possible skill combinations with the wizard without Elective Mode enabled. Even assuming a huge chunk of those are not viable or worthwhile, that is a lot of possibilities for building a character. Enable Elective Mode and that number goes beyond ludicrous. And people are complaining about a lack of customization in the game? Really?

    -edit- That's assuming that you would always be using a rune on a skill. If non-runed skills are included I think the number goes up to almost 102 billion.

    I think that assumes that location of skills on the hotbar matters. Which, for a build's sake, it doesn't. So I think your numbers are off.

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  • Death of RatsDeath of Rats Registered User regular
    jdarksun wrote: »
    jdarksun wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    jdarksun wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    You didn't play D2 did you? There is a need for the current setup, beyond just DRM. D2 was destroyed by cheating, absolutely destroyed. Hosting everything on Blizzard's servers greatly lessens those issues.

    People just don't understand that, so they want to pitch a fit.
    No, that's bullshit. If I want to cheat in a single player game, you goddamn let me. I don't give a shit if other people are cheating in their single player games - why should I?
    That's simple: It's not a single player game. There is no single player mode. Only private password protected multiplayer lobbies.
    Claiming that it's not a single player game is ludicrous. This is not Battlefield 3 where the only "solo play" option is versus bots.
    It's not a single player game. You did not buy a single player game. You knew about this going into it. If you didn't want a multiplayer game, you shouldn't have bought a multiplayer game. Guess you didn't quite think through your purchasing decision, considering that all of this was known beforehand. Either that, or the game is still worth it to you, even knowing that it isn't exactly what you wanted... which is apparently a singleplayer game.
    No, actually, I did not realize that even if my account authenticated I could be prevented from playing the game.

    Can start single player sessions. Can play without others, without requiring bots. Can be considered single player game.

    You didn't realize that, but it's been publicly known for what, well over a year now? Again, you didn't think through your purchasing decision. But calling a game that requires a server to host your game a singleplayer game is kinda silly. Stop trying to call a duck a chicken. And this is coming from a guy who is primarily going to play solo, but I knew what I was getting into beforehand, because I actually researched where my money went before spending it.

    I define a single player game as a game you play by yourself

    And I define a single player game as a game you play where your character can't play with other characters.

    No I don't.
  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    How do chat channels work in this? Can we seperate them from party/pm chat? Is there a PA room?

  • FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    Who cares how you define the word "singleplayer." Whatever catch-phrase you want to attach to Diablo 3, it's a game that requires a constant Internet connection. This was never a secret.

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  • TOGSolidTOGSolid Drunk sailor Seattle, WashingtonRegistered User regular
    edited May 2012
    jdarksun wrote: »
    No, actually, I did not realize that even if my account authenticated I could be prevented from playing the game.
    Why else would I be sitting here giggling like a retard at everyone having problems while I lurk in this thread instead of, yanno, actually playing this game? They announced the online only thing a looong time ago which forced this game from being a day 1 purchase for me into a "wait and see" sort of thing.

    I'm kinda surprised there are people that weren't aware of it >.>

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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    Scosglen wrote: »
    I'll say this, If serious hacking and duping becomes an issue with D3 like it did with D2, then yes, people will be more than justified to crucify Blizzard's online-only requirement when the only valid reason for doing it didn't work.

    That has to actually happen first though.

    If this happens, I'll crucify Blizzard myself....but I remember D2, I remember how pointless entire chunks of it were because of the hacking and duping. I'll deal with one or two days of server issues, to play this for years without ever dealing with that again.

    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • Death of RatsDeath of Rats Registered User regular
    jdarksun wrote: »
    I'm owed a little bit more effort from the company I just bought a $60 game from.

    No, you're not. You bought the game which works as advertised. That's always what you're owed. This is an always online game on an online server even if you're playing by yourself. The idle kick is for two reasons, so you won't get killed if the connection gets disconnected, and so you're not taking up server space just sitting there.

    No I don't.
  • TOGSolidTOGSolid Drunk sailor Seattle, WashingtonRegistered User regular
    edited May 2012
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    Scosglen wrote: »
    I'll say this, If serious hacking and duping becomes an issue with D3 like it did with D2, then yes, people will be more than justified to crucify Blizzard's online-only requirement when the only valid reason for doing it didn't work.

    That has to actually happen first though.

    If this happens, I'll crucify Blizzard myself....but I remember D2, I remember how pointless entire chunks of it were because of the hacking and duping. I'll deal with one or two days of server issues, to play this for years without ever dealing with that again.

    D2 could have been worse. At least they eventually wiped a lot of that stuff out starting with 1.10.

    It could have gotten to Diablo 1 Boba Fett trainer status.

    TOGSolid on
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  • chrisnlchrisnl Registered User regular
    Smoogy wrote: »
    chrisnl wrote: »
    So I'm really really bored waiting for my test rig to cool down at work, so I did some math. If I'm doing this right, I calculate 34,125,000,000 possible skill combinations with the wizard without Elective Mode enabled. Even assuming a huge chunk of those are not viable or worthwhile, that is a lot of possibilities for building a character. Enable Elective Mode and that number goes beyond ludicrous. And people are complaining about a lack of customization in the game? Really?

    -edit- That's assuming that you would always be using a rune on a skill. If non-runed skills are included I think the number goes up to almost 102 billion.

    I think that assumes that location of skills on the hotbar matters. Which, for a build's sake, it doesn't. So I think your numbers are off.

    Well the location doesn't matter for skills IF you turn on Elective Mode, right? I didn't feel like trying to calculate that out since it's slightly more complicated than a 125 choose 6, since choosing 1 locks out 5 or 6 choices, so I calculated it based off of Elective Mode being OFF. Obviously with Elective Mode ON, the number gets even sillier. The point being, even with the more restrictive method of selecting skills, there are a crazy number of potential combinations. I'm really hoping it doesn't end up in a state where only a few builds are even plausible at high levels, like Diablo 2 did, because that would be such a waste of potential.

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  • SyrdonSyrdon Registered User regular
    Anyone happen to work out a way to adjust your friends list without actually being in the game?

  • KaseiusKaseius Registered User regular
    reading through the manual, and wondered if it was just a word I didn't know:
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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    TOGSolid wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    Scosglen wrote: »
    I'll say this, If serious hacking and duping becomes an issue with D3 like it did with D2, then yes, people will be more than justified to crucify Blizzard's online-only requirement when the only valid reason for doing it didn't work.

    That has to actually happen first though.

    If this happens, I'll crucify Blizzard myself....but I remember D2, I remember how pointless entire chunks of it were because of the hacking and duping. I'll deal with one or two days of server issues, to play this for years without ever dealing with that again.

    D2 could have been worse. At least they eventually wiped a lot of that stuff out starting with 1.10.

    It could have gotten to Diablo 1 Boba Fett trainer status.

    Don't remind me.

    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • BadwrongBadwrong TokyoRegistered User regular
    edited May 2012
    So I started out demon hunter with bows, crossbows, etc.

    Got a rare dagger with 40 dex and a shield with 30. Changed to the bomb and ninja star stuff. Its pretty damn spiffy.

    I'm hoping other classes have options to play them much different than normal. Like melee sorc in D2, cool builds like that.

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  • Undead MonkeyUndead Monkey Anchorage, AKRegistered User regular
    I don't know why anyone would watch people streaming this game without having finished the campaign first.

    To quote River Song, "Tsk tsk, dear... spoilers."

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  • ScosglenScosglen Registered User regular
    edited May 2012

    jdarksun wrote: »
    jdarksun wrote: »
    jdarksun wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    jdarksun wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    You didn't play D2 did you? There is a need for the current setup, beyond just DRM. D2 was destroyed by cheating, absolutely destroyed. Hosting everything on Blizzard's servers greatly lessens those issues.

    People just don't understand that, so they want to pitch a fit.
    No, that's bullshit. If I want to cheat in a single player game, you goddamn let me. I don't give a shit if other people are cheating in their single player games - why should I?
    That's simple: It's not a single player game. There is no single player mode. Only private password protected multiplayer lobbies.
    Claiming that it's not a single player game is ludicrous. This is not Battlefield 3 where the only "solo play" option is versus bots.
    It's not a single player game. You did not buy a single player game. You knew about this going into it. If you didn't want a multiplayer game, you shouldn't have bought a multiplayer game. Guess you didn't quite think through your purchasing decision, considering that all of this was known beforehand. Either that, or the game is still worth it to you, even knowing that it isn't exactly what you wanted... which is apparently a singleplayer game.
    No, actually, I did not realize that even if my account authenticated I could be prevented from playing the game.

    Can start single player sessions. Can play without others, without requiring bots. Can be considered single player game.
    You didn't realize that, but it's been publicly known for what, well over a year now? Again, you didn't think through your purchasing decision. But calling a game that requires a server to host your game a singleplayer game is kinda silly. Stop trying to call a duck a chicken. And this is coming from a guy who is primarily going to play solo, but I knew what I was getting into beforehand, because I actually researched where my money went before spending it.
    No, I don't ever recall hearing anything about needing to do something other than "authenticate" with the "always on authentication". Well, guess what? I authenticated just fine and they still won't let me play.

    Do you understand what a client/sever separation means and how that makes Diablo 3 fundamentally different than Mass Effect 3?

    Scosglen on
  • SmoogySmoogy Registered User regular
    jdarksun wrote: »
    Actually, I'm mad at Blizzard for putting in a ludicrous idle threshold. There's no reason for that. None.

    You know what recent game also has always-on authentication? Mass Effect 3. You know how many times I got kicked out for leaving the game paused for a few minuets? Zero.

    I'm owed a little bit more effort from the company I just bought a $60 game from.

    Someone has entitlement issues. They provided you a game that has great gameplay, infinite customization, endless replay value, the server infrastructure to do so, customer service that can't be beat, and all kinds of other stuff I could rattle off from being in team "Blizzard Defense Force" or whatever people said earlier. And you are complaining because you idled for twenty minutes and they kicked you off?

    WAI

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  • Lucky CynicLucky Cynic Registered User regular
    Yeah I wish there was a way to play a character LOCAL ONLY meaning they, nor the items they have, will ever be able to go online- but at least you'd be able to play the goddamn thing.

  • MvrckMvrck Dwarven MountainhomeRegistered User regular
    Lanrutcon wrote: »
    They've been reasonably good about WoW. There were segments where positional hacks were quite frequent (specially in Warsong gulch and later in instances), but apart from that I don't know of any major hacks in the game. I'm not a fan of the online-only thing (at. all.), but I can see the sense in the decision. At least to a certain extent.

    Positioning issues are bugs related to pathing and not external hacks. As far as I know there have been two major duping bugs exploited in the history of the game, and both were cleaned up very quickly (within hours to a day), with account bans across the board for those that knowingly abused it. To this day, I don't believe anyone has successfully gamed the system into forcing loot drops or duping items via an external program.

  • TOGSolidTOGSolid Drunk sailor Seattle, WashingtonRegistered User regular
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    TOGSolid wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    Scosglen wrote: »
    I'll say this, If serious hacking and duping becomes an issue with D3 like it did with D2, then yes, people will be more than justified to crucify Blizzard's online-only requirement when the only valid reason for doing it didn't work.

    That has to actually happen first though.

    If this happens, I'll crucify Blizzard myself....but I remember D2, I remember how pointless entire chunks of it were because of the hacking and duping. I'll deal with one or two days of server issues, to play this for years without ever dealing with that again.

    D2 could have been worse. At least they eventually wiped a lot of that stuff out starting with 1.10.

    It could have gotten to Diablo 1 Boba Fett trainer status.

    Don't remind me.

    I still have Vietnam style flashbacks to the constant bloodbaths in Tristram. :(

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  • FeldornFeldorn Mediocre Registered User regular
    Scosglen wrote: »
    jdarksun wrote: »
    jdarksun wrote: »
    jdarksun wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    jdarksun wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    You didn't play D2 did you? There is a need for the current setup, beyond just DRM. D2 was destroyed by cheating, absolutely destroyed. Hosting everything on Blizzard's servers greatly lessens those issues.

    People just don't understand that, so they want to pitch a fit.
    No, that's bullshit. If I want to cheat in a single player game, you goddamn let me. I don't give a shit if other people are cheating in their single player games - why should I?
    That's simple: It's not a single player game. There is no single player mode. Only private password protected multiplayer lobbies.
    Claiming that it's not a single player game is ludicrous. This is not Battlefield 3 where the only "solo play" option is versus bots.
    It's not a single player game. You did not buy a single player game. You knew about this going into it. If you didn't want a multiplayer game, you shouldn't have bought a multiplayer game. Guess you didn't quite think through your purchasing decision, considering that all of this was known beforehand. Either that, or the game is still worth it to you, even knowing that it isn't exactly what you wanted... which is apparently a singleplayer game.
    No, actually, I did not realize that even if my account authenticated I could be prevented from playing the game.

    Can start single player sessions. Can play without others, without requiring bots. Can be considered single player game.
    You didn't realize that, but it's been publicly known for what, well over a year now? Again, you didn't think through your purchasing decision. But calling a game that requires a server to host your game a singleplayer game is kinda silly. Stop trying to call a duck a chicken. And this is coming from a guy who is primarily going to play solo, but I knew what I was getting into beforehand, because I actually researched where my money went before spending it.
    No, I don't ever recall hearing anything about needing to do something other than "authenticate" with the "always on authentication". Well, guess what? I authenticated just fine and they still won't let me play.

    Do you understand what a client/sever separation means and how that makes Diablo 3 fundamentally different than Mass Effect 3?

    is that anything like the separation of church and state?

  • Tiger BurningTiger Burning Dig if you will, the pictureRegistered User, SolidSaints Tube regular
    oh, monk

    you da bes

    you da bes, monk

    Ain't no particular sign I'm more compatible with
  • SyrdonSyrdon Registered User regular
    Kaseius wrote: »
    reading through the manual, and wondered if it was just a word I didn't know:
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    Oance? Its not a word. Someone forgot to hit spellcheck.

  • Death of RatsDeath of Rats Registered User regular
    Yeah I wish there was a way to play a character LOCAL ONLY meaning they, nor the items they have, will ever be able to go online- but at least you'd be able to play the goddamn thing.

    This I agree with. I do wish they had a singleplayer mode for the game with no online component. But I completely understand why they don't. It's so people don't have to make a new character for online, since that was always a real bummer in D2.

    No I don't.
  • ScosglenScosglen Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Blizzard wrote:
    11:30 a.m. PDT- We are in the process of performing an emergency maintenance for Diablo III servers in the Americas to resolve several issues that are currently impacting the game. This maintenance may cause some interruption in communication, ability to log in, use of in-game features, and disconnections. We anticipate all servers will be available for play at approximately 1:30 p.m. PDT. We will provide further updates as necessary. Thank you for your patience.

    Let's try not to shit ourselves with rage.

    Scosglen on
  • M-VickersM-Vickers Registered User regular
    Thoughts regarding a possible new Secret Cow level. Minor spoilers for enemies encountered, and locations in Act 1.
    I got a Lore recording saying how the little treasure imp guys are rumoured to teleport away to a secret treasure dimension. I didn't kill the next one I found and it did indeed teleport away. I couldn't follow it, though, and couldn't click on the portal. Later on in Act 1, in Leoric's Manor, I clicked on a fireplace and received Leoric's Shinbone, a 1 square item that looks like a skeleton foot. It's account bound and is no-trade (the first such item I've found). Anyone think that there's a connection ? I've just found the bone, but have yet to see another treasure imp...

  • Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    Syrdon wrote: »
    Kaseius wrote: »
    reading through the manual, and wondered if it was just a word I didn't know:
    83hEb.jpg
    Oance? Its not a word. Someone forgot to hit spellcheck.

    Blizzard has more in common with Games-Workshop than they want to think.

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  • LanrutconLanrutcon The LabyrinthRegistered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Frei wrote: »
    Lanrutcon wrote: »
    Smoogy wrote: »
    jdarksun wrote: »
    No, that's bullshit. If I want to cheat in a single player game, you goddamn let me. I don't give a shit if other people are cheating in their single player games - why should I?

    The "Diablo is a single-player game" crew is hilarious.

    The Blizzard Defense Force(tm) is hilarious. Just when I thought the thread was gonna stay civilized.

    As for the online-only thing keeping the environment hack free: give it 6 months and we'll see if it's true. I have my doubts that it'll stop any and all attempts, but it'll certainly delay things and make it easier to respond to new breaches.

    That's pretty much the point. There's no clear cut way to eliminate hacks completely, EVER. This allows them to do what you said, delay it and respond and eliminate much easier. I don't get how you can think it was meant to be some magic button to stop every malicious user.

    Also just because someone sees the logic in a certain point, has a different opinion or agrees with the action Blizzard is taking, that doesn't make them the "Blizzard Defense Force" and, funny enough, you trying to label people who think differently than you as corporate drones makes the thread less civilized when you are the one acting like you're civilized for some reason.

    I hate the label as much as you do, but really: watch what happens to anyone that dares say anyone negative about D3 in this thread. You talk about differing opinions, but anyone that has an issue with the way D3 is handling it's online requirement gets jumped on like this was a gamefaqs board. Except with better grammar and spelling.

    Edit: oh shit, someone broke out 'entitlement'. God, love that buzzword.

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    One tip I have for you guys is get the +2-4 damage rings from the shop which are equipable at level 6 as soon as possible (you will probably have the gold for them around level 7-8 or so. I picked up two nice ones that had 6% magic find as the 2nd effect.
    @Constrictor you want to start a new toon and make a run through Act 1 + tonight? I'm probably going to be on from about 7-11 PST, maybe a couple other LoLers can join us? My barb from this morning is level 10, but I'd like to start a Wiz or DH.
    Imperfect wrote: »
    Hey, is there anyone here who can craft a Journeyman Slinglock?

    I have the mats and the gold, just need someone to craft it for me, is all.

    Imperfect#1226

    I'm hanging out in-game, in Tristram while doing some work on the laptop for the next little while.

    @Imperfect I'd say @milk ducks can probably already craft that for you if you can get in touch with him. Otherwise, I'm pretty sure I'll be able to do it this evening after I level my smith up.

    Yep. I took care of him. Blacksmith's almost Level 4, by the way! Coming along nicely.

  • AxenAxen My avatar is Excalibur. Yes, the sword.Registered User regular
    Oh man I am in love with this game. It actually gives me that Diablo 1 feeling more than Diablo 2 ever did.

    My buddy and I played from lvl 1 to 10-11ish.

    I have a Witch Doctor named Who and he chucks spider bombs, how is that not amazing?!

    I didn't turn on Elective mode right away, but by lvl 3 I did. Jesus, so much better.

    I do have a question though. I have noticed that my primary attack is actually an ability and not my weapon's attack. So does that mean I can pick weapons based primarily on their awesome stats and not so much on dmg?

    A Capellan's favorite sheath for any blade is your back.
  • TOGSolidTOGSolid Drunk sailor Seattle, WashingtonRegistered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Yeah I wish there was a way to play a character LOCAL ONLY meaning they, nor the items they have, will ever be able to go online- but at least you'd be able to play the goddamn thing.

    This I agree with. I do wish they had a singleplayer mode for the game with no online component. But I completely understand why they don't. It's so people don't have to make a new character for online, since that was always a real bummer in D2.

    Not really. SP Diablo 2 was awesome because you could trainer the shit out of yourself for build testing purposes. Bypass the grind entirely and jump straight to max level with whatever gear you want and see how well you fared against whatever difficulty you wanted. Then when you go online you could take your time and do things properly.

    Or just be a jerkass and play on Open Bnet where everyone was hacked to shit with white items.

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  • SummaryJudgmentSummaryJudgment Grab the hottest iron you can find, stride in the Tower’s front door Registered User regular
    Vickers - I've got an account-bound
    Black Mushroom
    that I've no idea what to do with. I've tried talking to Cain and whoever else about it, but it's just sitting there.

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  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    @Axen, every ability in the game bases it's damage off of your equipped weapon. You will almost certainly want to value weapon DPS over it's other mods on an individual basis.

    Obviously, a weapon with 20 dps and +50 Int is better on a mage than a weapon with 25 DPS and +25 STR, but weapon DPS does matter.

    If you go into the options and turn on "Advanced Tooltips" (this really should be in the title along with Elective Mode, possibly even moreso than Elective Mode) you will see exactly how much % of weapon damage each skill does.

  • IncindiumIncindium Registered User regular
    jdarksun wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    So who you're really mad at is yourself for not realizing it was announced over a year ago that this was a multi-player, always online game, with no true single-player component. It's been shouted from the hills, posted many times by Blizzard employees, is in every FAQ about the game that exists, even says it on the box...but you didn't know that, so you think you're owed a single-player game.
    Actually, I'm mad at Blizzard for putting in a ludicrous idle threshold. There's no reason for that. None.

    You know what recent game also has always-on authentication? Mass Effect 3. You know how many times I got kicked out for leaving the game paused for a few minuets? Zero.

    I'm owed a little bit more effort from the company I just bought a $60 game from.

    You didn't buy a game... You bought a license to access a game via the internet. I noticed that in was somewhere in the 3-4 EULA things you had to accept when logging in to the game for the first time.

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    Lanrutcon wrote: »
    Frei wrote: »
    Lanrutcon wrote: »
    Smoogy wrote: »
    jdarksun wrote: »
    No, that's bullshit. If I want to cheat in a single player game, you goddamn let me. I don't give a shit if other people are cheating in their single player games - why should I?

    The "Diablo is a single-player game" crew is hilarious.

    The Blizzard Defense Force(tm) is hilarious. Just when I thought the thread was gonna stay civilized.

    As for the online-only thing keeping the environment hack free: give it 6 months and we'll see if it's true. I have my doubts that it'll stop any and all attempts, but it'll certainly delay things and make it easier to respond to new breaches.

    That's pretty much the point. There's no clear cut way to eliminate hacks completely, EVER. This allows them to do what you said, delay it and respond and eliminate much easier. I don't get how you can think it was meant to be some magic button to stop every malicious user.

    Also just because someone sees the logic in a certain point, has a different opinion or agrees with the action Blizzard is taking, that doesn't make them the "Blizzard Defense Force" and, funny enough, you trying to label people who think differently than you as corporate drones makes the thread less civilized when you are the one acting like you're civilized for some reason.

    I hate the label as much as you do, but really: watch what happens to anyone that dares say anyone negative about D3 in this thread. You talk about differing opinions, but anyone that has an issue with the way D3 is handling it's online requirement gets jumped on like this was a gamefaqs board. Except with better grammar and spelling.

    it's just a boring and kind of silly thing to complain about

    yes, launch issues suck

    yes, it would be nice if there were a local singleplayer

    these are the perils of playing an online game at launch, which anybody who's been paying attention to like, any online game ever should probably be familiar with by now

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    Axen wrote: »
    Oh man I am in love with this game. It actually gives me that Diablo 1 feeling more than Diablo 2 ever did.

    My buddy and I played from lvl 1 to 10-11ish.

    I have a Witch Doctor named Who and he chucks spider bombs, how is that not amazing?!

    I didn't turn on Elective mode right away, but by lvl 3 I did. Jesus, so much better.

    I do have a question though. I have noticed that my primary attack is actually an ability and not my weapon's attack. So does that mean I can pick weapons based primarily on their awesome stats and not so much on dmg?

    If you turn on advanced tooltips you will see that all of your skills damage are based on your weapon's damage.

  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    Axen wrote: »
    Oh man I am in love with this game. It actually gives me that Diablo 1 feeling more than Diablo 2 ever did.

    My buddy and I played from lvl 1 to 10-11ish.

    I have a Witch Doctor named Who and he chucks spider bombs, how is that not amazing?!

    I didn't turn on Elective mode right away, but by lvl 3 I did. Jesus, so much better.

    I do have a question though. I have noticed that my primary attack is actually an ability and not my weapon's attack. So does that mean I can pick weapons based primarily on their awesome stats and not so much on dmg?

    weapon damage is baked into your abilities' damage, I believe

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