Oh whoops, you can't 'swap to some different skills' in Inferno.
You probably can if your gear is good enough.
In any case, in D2 there were really only a handful of builds capable of beating Hell with the kind of average/mediocre gear you could find in a week of play. Most of them were paladin builds. There were also plenty of fantastic and/or fun builds that were totally non-viable in Hell basically no matter how good your equipment was. WW assassin, various novelty necro builds, dream sorc, etc
fun isn't necessarily measured by survival rate in Inferno, and the new skill system is absolutely more fun than the old.
That's subjective. I have fun with progression and I think the old style allows for better options at end game, even though it throttles you early on.
I got it in my head that I want to do a write up comparing and contrasting this game with Torchlight 2 because I have lots of free time and nothing better to do and I like writing even though nobody ever reads what I write.
Unfortunately, I might not even make it through Normal due to how god awful boring this game is which is going to make this the biggest case of buyer's remorse I've had in the past year or two. The change to how you get skills makes the grind REALLY noticeable in that god awful monotonous World of Warcraft sort of way that I have always despised. Leveling up and getting useless shit you'll never use just drags everything out. I've only played for a few hours and it feels like I've been at it way more than that.
Disclaimer: I normally really enjoy aRPGs. I played D2 for a year and a half, played Titan Quest extensively, enjoyed Torchlight, etc.
You played D2 for a year and a half, and didn't find the "Save all your skill points till level 30. Put enough points into str to wear end game equip, enough dex for max block rest vitality" grindy?
90% of the skills in D2 were useless until the synergies patch (1.08 or .09?)
I'm sorry man, but you went into the game wanting to hate it, and so you do. You didn't start D2 with a Meteorb Sorc at level 5, and you won't do the same in D3.
Max player games in D2 made early leveling a triviality that took no time at all. If you REALLY wanted to shortcut it, you wormed your way into a secret cow game. I never felt the starting grind because I cheeseballed my way past the crappy early levels every single time. Unless there's some sort of early game speed leveling trick I'm unaware of then yeah, I'm feeling the grind because I never had to experience it in the first place in D2.
First, if you hate the game this much, I'm pretty sure Blizz does a 30-day return policy.
Second, playing with a group in this game makes you level crazy fast. Maybe not as fast as D2, but still really fast. Have you done a lot of it yet?
I didn't say I hated it, just that I was bored.
I've got a level 12 whizzard and that's about it. Which is the other problem, you guys are already level LOLINFERNORUNS already so I haven't bothered trying to group up with any of you.
If you're willing to give this game a chance, I'll group with you this evening
I have different level characters up until nightmare.
Also, the secret to leveling quickly/with fun is rares. Nothing like twinking characters, and since you don't lose any items, they can be handed down.
If you want to play a wizard I have a full set of items that can let you oneshot mobs with magic missle.
Although I do agree that I think it should take you to level 30 to unlock everything, but that's just me. I hate not having access to all the bells and whistles 30-49.
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My lvl 55 barbarian is sitting on 27k hp, around 4k DPS, and has enough armor to get about 72-73% damage reduction. Currently about halfway through act 2 in hell (collecting blood). Two shouts go a long way.
The only problem I'm having is a severe lack of ranged abilities with my normal build. I wish there was a way to set up two different rune selections, and switch between them with a key press.
Yeah, I agree. Having a button to store two "builds" (skills/runes/items) would be pretty baller.
Hitting a wall with Belail in Hell Mode. I've level 58 with around 5k DPS. Any suggestions?
I seem to die too quickly to the large poison phase. I'm a Wizard so my resist should be pretty high with the Int I've been stacking.
Belial is about avoiding his attacks. That's pretty much it. You have to not get hit by his arm attacks and avoid his poisons. One big tip is that when he's spreading the poison circles, they are NOT dots. What they do is expand a bit and then blow up. So you can run through them when they first drop if you're quick.
I had a little more dps than you when I did it (like 6k I think). The guys talking about 11k dps at lvl 58 are taking crazy pills. The only way that happens is if you drop tons of cash on the AH for a 600 dps weapons or something.
Is there a way to dodge the fists? They don't seem to be telegraphed in any way, and you can't exactly run away from Belial.
For me I always went left, as he would smash left - right - middle, or just one big smash, so best bet was usually to go left. And have some sort of escape ability to use, to be quicker.
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My wizard has about 15k hp in hell act 1 and was definitely getting one-shotted by elite charging beasts, it was really frustrating, but I'm pretty sure my armor is way under where it should be for my level. I probably need to just go ahead and drop 50-100k on new gear to get stuff somewhat on level but I kinda wanna hold off until I hit 60 so I can just get stupidly cheap not good for being level 60 but way better than my req level 42 or whatever gloves.
To be fair, an elite charging beast is pretty much the worst possible elite you could face in Act 1. You're going to get 1 shot if a charge connects from them regardless, and heaven help you if they're Waller because they will wall you and then immediately charge.
I definitely don't get the impression that D3 classes offer as much of a clear difference in playstyle within the class as something like Elemental/Shapeshifting druids, Bow/Elemental Javelin Amazons, or Pet/Poison-Bone Necromancers.
Mm. Delicious hardcore. Almost bit it in an optional dungeon (to normal bats, no less... goddamn bats) in Act 2. I think it's way better than my wizard parked in A2 NM, though - the laser of death is nice but spent a lot of time running back from checkpoints with the "oh well, try again" sentiment. Plus the economy seems less insane (when the AH is up... that smarted but good not being able to get any gear for the last 8 levels).
Also @Infidel I'll be home around 3pm PST tonight so I can show you what settings I have if you like. Or if you need it sooner I could probably dig them up for ya.
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Also @Infidel I'll be home around 3pm PST tonight so I can show you what settings I have if you like. Or if you need it sooner I could probably dig them up for ya.
He was pretty twinked out though. 100k HP, 10k armor, and 900-1000 of every resistance.
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Also @Infidel I'll be home around 3pm PST tonight so I can show you what settings I have if you like. Or if you need it sooner I could probably dig them up for ya.
He was pretty twinked out though. 100k HP, 10k armor, and 900-1000 of every resistance.
Well yeah, Inferno is a gear check. Everyone who plays inferno is going to get that geared out eventually, and then even more so. The games been at for a week. A month, two months from now the saturation level of high end items is going to be insane compared to now.
Also keep in mind that he has passives and actives increasing the stats you are seeing on his paper doll.
Also @Infidel I'll be home around 3pm PST tonight so I can show you what settings I have if you like. Or if you need it sooner I could probably dig them up for ya.
He was pretty twinked out though. 100k HP, 10k armor, and 900-1000 of every resistance.
Well yeah, Inferno is a gear check. Everyone who plays inferno is going to get that geared out eventually, and then even more so. The games been at for a week, a month, two months from now the saturation level of high end items is going to be insane compared to now.
Also keep in mind that he has passives and actives increasing the stats you are seeing on his paper doll.
Yeah, you're right, I just meant that anyone could do it with the same gear.
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Also @Infidel I'll be home around 3pm PST tonight so I can show you what settings I have if you like. Or if you need it sooner I could probably dig them up for ya.
He was pretty twinked out though. 100k HP, 10k armor, and 900-1000 of every resistance.
Well yeah, Inferno is a gear check. Everyone who plays inferno is going to get that geared out eventually, and then even more so. The games been at for a week, a month, two months from now the saturation level of high end items is going to be insane compared to now.
Also keep in mind that he has passives and actives increasing the stats you are seeing on his paper doll.
Yeah, you're right, I just meant that anyone could do it with the same gear.
Yeah, I look at the items that he has, the build that he has. Every single button is there for mobility, healing, or defense (so all for surviving) and every single one of his passives is for defense. His gear is focused towards defense. Its how inferno forces you to play.
So. Boring. Zzzzzzzzzz.
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I had a long post here and then I read the thread and a mod said to stop talking about it so now the post is gone forever.
Also @Infidel I'll be home around 3pm PST tonight so I can show you what settings I have if you like. Or if you need it sooner I could probably dig them up for ya.
He was pretty twinked out though. 100k HP, 10k armor, and 900-1000 of every resistance.
Well yeah, Inferno is a gear check. Everyone who plays inferno is going to get that geared out eventually, and then even more so. The games been at for a week, a month, two months from now the saturation level of high end items is going to be insane compared to now.
Also keep in mind that he has passives and actives increasing the stats you are seeing on his paper doll.
Yeah, you're right, I just meant that anyone could do it with the same gear.
Yeah, I look at the items that he has, the build that he has. Every single button is there for mobility, healing, or defense (so all for surviving) and every single one of his passives is for defense. His gear is focused towards defense. Its how inferno forces you to play.
So. Boring. Zzzzzzzzzz.
Or... you know... team up with some people.
I'm pretty sure I remember Blizzard saying that Inferno was intended for group play. Soloing something intended for a group is going to take some tight ability and gear management.
Also @Infidel I'll be home around 3pm PST tonight so I can show you what settings I have if you like. Or if you need it sooner I could probably dig them up for ya.
He was pretty twinked out though. 100k HP, 10k armor, and 900-1000 of every resistance.
Well yeah, Inferno is a gear check. Everyone who plays inferno is going to get that geared out eventually, and then even more so. The games been at for a week, a month, two months from now the saturation level of high end items is going to be insane compared to now.
Also keep in mind that he has passives and actives increasing the stats you are seeing on his paper doll.
Yeah, you're right, I just meant that anyone could do it with the same gear.
Yeah, I look at the items that he has, the build that he has. Every single button is there for mobility, healing, or defense (so all for surviving) and every single one of his passives is for defense. His gear is focused towards defense. Its how inferno forces you to play.
So. Boring. Zzzzzzzzzz.
Or... you know... team up with some people.
I'm pretty sure I remember Blizzard saying that Inferno was intended for group play. Soloing something intended for a group is going to take some tight ability and gear management.
You say that like you don't die just as fast on inferno grouped with people.
Also @Infidel I'll be home around 3pm PST tonight so I can show you what settings I have if you like. Or if you need it sooner I could probably dig them up for ya.
He probably just skips champions.
Like, the only thing that's outstanding there compared to a lot of Barbs I've seen is his health pool (which is truly ridiculous) but they still get annihilated by champions. There's some good synergy between Charge/Revenge and that kind of health, but still. TBH bosses are the easy part.
Without Wrath, he can't do a lot against most blue packs and he certainly doesn't have the DPS for them. I wonder if he has problems with the enrage timer at all.
If you read into the thread a little it clearly states that all he does is kite everything to bottle necks, or skips it. His tactic is described as "run away."
I'm not sure I'd really qualify that as soloing Inferno. Sure, he was there by himself, but no one is saying "oh yeah, and he melted shit and killed everything." No, it's being said that he "runs away from stuff unless it has weak affixes or very low HP."
The Fiery Brimstone, which is used for recipes. I can verify that you don't need to salvage legendary items to obtain it, as I've gotten it by salvaging a lvl. 60 rare, but there are a few low level legendaries that aren't even worth putting up on the AH.
I've gotten two from salvaging rares and I actually bought a few of them because I felt like demand for them will increase once the recipes that use them are found and used.
Right now no one is using them so they are selling for like 20k each, which is not a lot of gold for me. I may end up taking a loss on them, but if they skyrocket in price I'll be set for a few crafts.
I got it in my head that I want to do a write up comparing and contrasting this game with Torchlight 2 because I have lots of free time and nothing better to do and I like writing even though nobody ever reads what I write.
Unfortunately, I might not even make it through Normal due to how god awful boring this game is which is going to make this the biggest case of buyer's remorse I've had in the past year or two. The change to how you get skills makes the grind REALLY noticeable in that god awful monotonous World of Warcraft sort of way that I have always despised. Leveling up and getting useless shit you'll never use just drags everything out. I've only played for a few hours and it feels like I've been at it way more than that.
Disclaimer: I normally really enjoy aRPGs. I played D2 for a year and a half, played Titan Quest extensively, enjoyed Torchlight, etc.
You played D2 for a year and a half, and didn't find the "Save all your skill points till level 30. Put enough points into str to wear end game equip, enough dex for max block rest vitality" grindy?
90% of the skills in D2 were useless until the synergies patch (1.08 or .09?)
I'm sorry man, but you went into the game wanting to hate it, and so you do. You didn't start D2 with a Meteorb Sorc at level 5, and you won't do the same in D3.
Max player games in D2 made early leveling a triviality that took no time at all. If you REALLY wanted to shortcut it, you wormed your way into a secret cow game. I never felt the starting grind because I cheeseballed my way past the crappy early levels every single time. Unless there's some sort of early game speed leveling trick I'm unaware of then yeah, I'm feeling the grind because I never had to experience it in the first place in D2.
First, if you hate the game this much, I'm pretty sure Blizz does a 30-day return policy.
Second, playing with a group in this game makes you level crazy fast. Maybe not as fast as D2, but still really fast. Have you done a lot of it yet?
I didn't say I hated it, just that I was bored.
I've got a level 12 whizzard and that's about it. Which is the other problem, you guys are already level LOLINFERNORUNS already so I haven't bothered trying to group up with any of you.
My playtime has dropped considerably and will continue to as the summer progresses (studying for the bar), but add my BattleTag to your friends list, I'm always happy to help if you just wanna blow through the Acts to get to higher difficulties. I'm also not on Inferno, and regularly roll new characters. Got a DH sitting at level 27 and a couple others below 10 so w/e you like man, if you are looking for people to play with.
Edit: I can't be the only one either.
Trust me, you're not. I spent the weekend on the lake and I plan on doing the same thing this weekend. Most of my friends are in Hell difficulty with level 50+ characters. My group was all the same level initially, I took one day off and they were too far ahead to ever hope of catching up until I max out. This is another reason why I can't wait for Guild Wards 2.
I just hit 40 on my Barb and 25 on my DH. The only reason I've even got THAT far is because I took the last two days off work and didn't tell my girlfriend I was at home the whole time. :P
Keeping up with the Joneses sucks and I can't help but feel like I'm falling behind, but whatever. If there's one thing to be said about getting older it's that it does get easier to ignore that feeling. Anyway, I'm gonna level up my wakeboarding skills rather than cause my tendonitis to flare up.
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So how are people getting hacked on D3? Are the hackers just brute forcing passwords?
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So how are people getting hacked on D3? Are the hackers just brute forcing passwords?
There was a reddit thread about it and it seems very likely that it came from a D3 Wikia ad infecting people, the same way Thottbot/Wowhead/MMOChampion ads used to do.
So how are people getting hacked on D3? Are the hackers just brute forcing passwords?
I reckon a lot of the people that got hacked had their account/passwords keylogged years ago, didn't know and so never changed the PW. They haven't played WoW in many years and so had nothing to steal before.
D3 comes out, and the hackers that have pages and pages of account//password just started working through them.
So how are people getting hacked on D3? Are the hackers just brute forcing passwords?
There was a reddit thread about it and it seems very likely that it came from a D3 Wikia ad infecting people, the same way Thottbot/Wowhead/MMOChampion ads used to do.
So I know Legendary items are supposedly bad but how often are they dropping? I spent 34 hours to get through normal and still haven't seen a Legendary drop yet.
My first Legendary drop wasn't until like the 10th time I killed Inferno Jailer (boss before Butcher).
Got 2 friends that I was playing with in Act 2 Inferno last night. Neither have found a Legendary yet.
It's random. I've already found 2-3 level 60 legendaries, and some other lower level ones as well. They seem to drop quite often with 5/5 nephalim valour up. My 7 year old son found his first legendary the other day. He was so excited.
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So, is the whimsyshire worth getting into? Are the drops better? I feel like it might be a little worthless to do.
Curious on this as well.
There's at least one legendary unique to the zone in there. Otherwise same drops as Act 4 of the current difficulty, just much more condensed as far as mobs/champ packs/chests go which makes it nice for power farming.
I did it on Normal and I was getting Nightmare Act 1 quality drops (including Jewelcrafting and Blacksmithing pages which aren't supposed to drop in Normal).
Keeping up with the Joneses sucks and I can't help but feel like I'm falling behind, but whatever. If there's one thing to be said about getting older it's that it does get easier to ignore that feeling. Anyway, I'm gonna level up my wakeboarding skills rather than cause my tendonitis to flare up.
D3 isn't competitive. Don't feel like you need to keep up with the Joneses.
Keeping up with the Joneses sucks and I can't help but feel like I'm falling behind, but whatever. If there's one thing to be said about getting older it's that it does get easier to ignore that feeling. Anyway, I'm gonna level up my wakeboarding skills rather than cause my tendonitis to flare up.
D3 isn't competitive. Don't feel like you need to keep up with the Joneses.
Everything's a competition!
The internet effect. A giant water cooler filled with people you can inflate your ego against.
a buddy took me to whimsyshire last night. i got the drop for Umbral Oath, which is a legendary BS plan for WD mainhand. so if you have the mats and the 10k gold, i'll make you one.
for my WD, i don't think spirit walk and soul siphon will ever come off 1/2, and gargo will stay on 4 for the time being. i'm experimenting with extra damage on 3, or buff/control if in a group. in nm i'm liking locust swarm or acid cloud. splinters is my main attack for now, with grasp in the r-click.
does well all around. i've even been finding some good upgrades in nm act 1, up through SK. also, bought a new weapon, put a flawless ruby in it and it upped my DPS by 200 :shock:
If you read into the thread a little it clearly states that all he does is kite everything to bottle necks, or skips it. His tactic is described as "run away."
I'm not sure I'd really qualify that as soloing Inferno. Sure, he was there by himself, but no one is saying "oh yeah, and he melted shit and killed everything." No, it's being said that he "runs away from stuff unless it has weak affixes or very low HP."
Uh yeah..it's INFERNO.
No class is just "melting things". Even the supposed broken classes are either running away or kiting endlessly right now.
The point was to show that a Barbarian can solo Inferno to give some hope to people who felt that barbarians couldn't do it. Supposedly a couple other Barbs soloed it again today but I haven't found links to back that up yet.
And I'm sorry, but if you defeat the game, by yourself, on Inferno. You have Solo'ed Inferno. I don't think there is a caveat that requires you to also be able to kill any champ pack in the game. That would be more like "Trivialized Inferno" or something along those lines.
I mean it's 1.5 weeks after release and a guy just Solo'ed the hardest difficulty in the game. Considering how much whining there has been about the sheer effort that would take on a barb I think that's pretty damned impressive. There are people complaining they can barely get through Hell Act 2 on a barb and this guy went and got the gear, made a build, and beat the game.
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The commodities still being down on the AH is killing me. I bought all new gear for my WD last night to make Nightmare quicker and I expected to be able to buy gems to fill the slots in all of it. I spent more money upgrading the gems I had in my stash than it would have cost to fill all of those slots with far better cuts.
a buddy took me to whimsyshire last night. i got the drop for Umbral Oath, which is a legendary BS plan for WD mainhand. so if you have the mats and the 10k gold, i'll make you one.
for my WD, i don't think spirit walk and soul siphon will ever come off 1/2, and gargo will stay on 4 for the time being. i'm experimenting with extra damage on 3, or buff/control if in a group. in nm i'm liking locust swarm or acid cloud. splinters is my main attack for now, with grasp in the r-click.
does well all around. i've even been finding some good upgrades in nm act 1, up through SK. also, bought a new weapon, put a flawless ruby in it and it upped my DPS by 200 :shock:
Am I reading this wrong or is Umbral Oath a low level legendary? like 30 dps.
I'm liking jumping spiders more and more for champ/elite packs in hell. Especially wallers.
Snake to the face is fun also, helps in groups and taking down some of the more annoying bigger mobs. Like those goddamn trees in act 1 that spread poison everywhere.
I really like soul siphon/spirit walk, but I don't like that they all but seem required. Seeing the soul siphon buff built into one of the passives somehow would be nice.
If you read into the thread a little it clearly states that all he does is kite everything to bottle necks, or skips it. His tactic is described as "run away."
I'm not sure I'd really qualify that as soloing Inferno. Sure, he was there by himself, but no one is saying "oh yeah, and he melted shit and killed everything." No, it's being said that he "runs away from stuff unless it has weak affixes or very low HP."
Uh yeah..it's INFERNO.
No class is just "melting things". Even the supposed broken classes are either running away or kiting endlessly right now.
The point was to show that a Barbarian can solo Inferno to give some hope to people who felt that barbarians couldn't do it. Supposedly a couple other Barbs soloed it again today but I haven't found links to back that up yet.
And I'm sorry, but if you defeat the game, by yourself, on Inferno. You have Solo'ed Inferno. I don't think there is a caveat that requires you to also be able to kill any champ pack in the game. That would be more like "Trivialized Inferno" or something along those lines.
I mean it's 1.5 weeks after release and a guy just Solo'ed the hardest difficulty in the game. Considering how much whining there has been about the sheer effort that would take on a barb I think that's pretty damned impressive. There are people complaining they can barely get through Hell Act 2 on a barb and this guy went and got the gear, made a build, and beat the game.
"I kited my way to the last boss" is a pretty low bar for what you consider beating a game.
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If you read into the thread a little it clearly states that all he does is kite everything to bottle necks, or skips it. His tactic is described as "run away."
I'm not sure I'd really qualify that as soloing Inferno. Sure, he was there by himself, but no one is saying "oh yeah, and he melted shit and killed everything." No, it's being said that he "runs away from stuff unless it has weak affixes or very low HP."
Uh yeah..it's INFERNO.
No class is just "melting things". Even the supposed broken classes are either running away or kiting endlessly right now.
The point was to show that a Barbarian can solo Inferno to give some hope to people who felt that barbarians couldn't do it. Supposedly a couple other Barbs soloed it again today but I haven't found links to back that up yet.
And I'm sorry, but if you defeat the game, by yourself, on Inferno. You have Solo'ed Inferno. I don't think there is a caveat that requires you to also be able to kill any champ pack in the game. That would be more like "Trivialized Inferno" or something along those lines.
I mean it's 1.5 weeks after release and a guy just Solo'ed the hardest difficulty in the game. Considering how much whining there has been about the sheer effort that would take on a barb I think that's pretty damned impressive. There are people complaining they can barely get through Hell Act 2 on a barb and this guy went and got the gear, made a build, and beat the game.
"I kited my way to the last boss" is a pretty low bar for what you consider beating a game.
This is my point too.
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Well, my defenses are finally high enough that I can survive the absolute shit out of Inferno Act 1: I've broken 50k HP, my resistances are all sitting at 55%, my damage reduction's about 60% while I'm in combat (+50% Armour bonus from Deadly Reach - Keen Eye), I further reduce about 17% of melee damage, along with the 30% damage resistance bonus I get for being a Monk. I also dodge about a quarter of the attacks that get thrown my way, and my attacks reduce enemy attack speed, movement speed, and damage by 20% (Crippling Wave - Concussion) and another 25% (Resolve).
I can tank like a mother fucker.
The issue, now, is that my DPS has tanked. I've dropped close to 6k DPS in order to beef myself up. It's at about 4k right now, which is pathetic. But what choice do I have? I have to be in melee to deal damage at all, and I have to be in melee to generate spirit to fuel my abilities, and I in order to stand in melee on Inferno, you have to jack up your defenses to obscene levels.
I play with people who don't, and they die instantaneously. We did the Skeleton King earlier, and he was gibbing my friend with every swing (not much he can really do about it, since Leoric teleports to you as he swings, so you have to be fast). I can out-last the hell out of Leoric, though. It just takes me forever to kill him. We're currently stuck on the Butcher, because we can't DPS him down before the whole floor catches fire. I'm the only one who can survive for any length of time. Everyone else is getting killed by his grappling hook, lol. I mean, they've got close to 30k HP, but it's looking like they're going to have to dump their DPS for defense, the same way I did.
So you can have super high defenses and no DPS, or you can have great DPS and die in one shot.
In spite of all that, I still think Inferno's awesome.
Are you running Sweeping Wind+Bladestorm and Breath of Heaven+Blazing Wrath? These are great ways to up your DPS. What's your skill build?
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Hitting a wall with Belail in Hell Mode. I've level 58 with around 5k DPS. Any suggestions?
I seem to die too quickly to the large poison phase. I'm a Wizard so my resist should be pretty high with the Int I've been stacking.
Belial is about avoiding his attacks. That's pretty much it. You have to not get hit by his arm attacks and avoid his poisons. One big tip is that when he's spreading the poison circles, they are NOT dots. What they do is expand a bit and then blow up. So you can run through them when they first drop if you're quick.
I had a little more dps than you when I did it (like 6k I think). The guys talking about 11k dps at lvl 58 are taking crazy pills. The only way that happens is if you drop tons of cash on the AH for a 600 dps weapons or something.
Is there a way to dodge the fists? They don't seem to be telegraphed in any way, and you can't exactly run away from Belial.
Like I said earlier, it's telegraphed by a green pool on the ground where his fists will come down. It'll give you about a second to get out of the way. Also, 11K DPS is absolutely NOT "crazy pills" for Act II Hell. And I most assuredly did not drop an absurd amount of money for a 600 DPS weapon. I'm using a 268 DPS dagger at the moment, which granted, is pretty high up there for a one-hander, but you can easily push yourself over at least 7.5K with a decent two-hander and decent gear that gives INT. Hope this helps.
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If you read into the thread a little it clearly states that all he does is kite everything to bottle necks, or skips it. His tactic is described as "run away."
I'm not sure I'd really qualify that as soloing Inferno. Sure, he was there by himself, but no one is saying "oh yeah, and he melted shit and killed everything." No, it's being said that he "runs away from stuff unless it has weak affixes or very low HP."
Uh yeah..it's INFERNO.
No class is just "melting things". Even the supposed broken classes are either running away or kiting endlessly right now.
The point was to show that a Barbarian can solo Inferno to give some hope to people who felt that barbarians couldn't do it. Supposedly a couple other Barbs soloed it again today but I haven't found links to back that up yet.
And I'm sorry, but if you defeat the game, by yourself, on Inferno. You have Solo'ed Inferno. I don't think there is a caveat that requires you to also be able to kill any champ pack in the game. That would be more like "Trivialized Inferno" or something along those lines.
I mean it's 1.5 weeks after release and a guy just Solo'ed the hardest difficulty in the game. Considering how much whining there has been about the sheer effort that would take on a barb I think that's pretty damned impressive. There are people complaining they can barely get through Hell Act 2 on a barb and this guy went and got the gear, made a build, and beat the game.
"I kited my way to the last boss" is a pretty low bar for what you consider beating a game.
Keeping up with the Joneses sucks and I can't help but feel like I'm falling behind, but whatever. If there's one thing to be said about getting older it's that it does get easier to ignore that feeling. Anyway, I'm gonna level up my wakeboarding skills rather than cause my tendonitis to flare up.
D3 isn't competitive. Don't feel like you need to keep up with the Joneses.
I know that... but when your primary gaming group is 10+ levels ahead of you, it's hard not to feel that way. Luckily my cousin and I have been sticking together thus far. We both have been playing alts and keeping our mains at the same level. It's nice.
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That's subjective. I have fun with progression and I think the old style allows for better options at end game, even though it throttles you early on.
If you're willing to give this game a chance, I'll group with you this evening
I have different level characters up until nightmare.
Also, the secret to leveling quickly/with fun is rares. Nothing like twinking characters, and since you don't lose any items, they can be handed down.
If you want to play a wizard I have a full set of items that can let you oneshot mobs with magic missle.
Although I do agree that I think it should take you to level 30 to unlock everything, but that's just me. I hate not having access to all the bells and whistles 30-49.
Yeah, I agree. Having a button to store two "builds" (skills/runes/items) would be pretty baller.
For me I always went left, as he would smash left - right - middle, or just one big smash, so best bet was usually to go left. And have some sort of escape ability to use, to be quicker.
To be fair, an elite charging beast is pretty much the worst possible elite you could face in Act 1. You're going to get 1 shot if a charge connects from them regardless, and heaven help you if they're Waller because they will wall you and then immediately charge.
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Dude apparently soloed Inferno Act IV.
Also @Infidel I'll be home around 3pm PST tonight so I can show you what settings I have if you like. Or if you need it sooner I could probably dig them up for ya.
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He was pretty twinked out though. 100k HP, 10k armor, and 900-1000 of every resistance.
"Orkses never lose a battle. If we win we win, if we die we die fightin so it don't count. If we runs for it we don't die neither, cos we can come back for annuver go, see!".
Well yeah, Inferno is a gear check. Everyone who plays inferno is going to get that geared out eventually, and then even more so. The games been at for a week. A month, two months from now the saturation level of high end items is going to be insane compared to now.
Also keep in mind that he has passives and actives increasing the stats you are seeing on his paper doll.
Yeah, you're right, I just meant that anyone could do it with the same gear.
"Orkses never lose a battle. If we win we win, if we die we die fightin so it don't count. If we runs for it we don't die neither, cos we can come back for annuver go, see!".
Yeah, I look at the items that he has, the build that he has. Every single button is there for mobility, healing, or defense (so all for surviving) and every single one of his passives is for defense. His gear is focused towards defense. Its how inferno forces you to play.
So. Boring. Zzzzzzzzzz.
Or... you know... team up with some people.
I'm pretty sure I remember Blizzard saying that Inferno was intended for group play. Soloing something intended for a group is going to take some tight ability and gear management.
You say that like you don't die just as fast on inferno grouped with people.
He probably just skips champions.
Like, the only thing that's outstanding there compared to a lot of Barbs I've seen is his health pool (which is truly ridiculous) but they still get annihilated by champions. There's some good synergy between Charge/Revenge and that kind of health, but still. TBH bosses are the easy part.
Without Wrath, he can't do a lot against most blue packs and he certainly doesn't have the DPS for them. I wonder if he has problems with the enrage timer at all.
I'm not sure I'd really qualify that as soloing Inferno. Sure, he was there by himself, but no one is saying "oh yeah, and he melted shit and killed everything." No, it's being said that he "runs away from stuff unless it has weak affixes or very low HP."
I've gotten two from salvaging rares and I actually bought a few of them because I felt like demand for them will increase once the recipes that use them are found and used.
Right now no one is using them so they are selling for like 20k each, which is not a lot of gold for me. I may end up taking a loss on them, but if they skyrocket in price I'll be set for a few crafts.
Trust me, you're not. I spent the weekend on the lake and I plan on doing the same thing this weekend. Most of my friends are in Hell difficulty with level 50+ characters. My group was all the same level initially, I took one day off and they were too far ahead to ever hope of catching up until I max out. This is another reason why I can't wait for Guild Wards 2.
I just hit 40 on my Barb and 25 on my DH. The only reason I've even got THAT far is because I took the last two days off work and didn't tell my girlfriend I was at home the whole time. :P
Keeping up with the Joneses sucks and I can't help but feel like I'm falling behind, but whatever. If there's one thing to be said about getting older it's that it does get easier to ignore that feeling. Anyway, I'm gonna level up my wakeboarding skills rather than cause my tendonitis to flare up.
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There was a reddit thread about it and it seems very likely that it came from a D3 Wikia ad infecting people, the same way Thottbot/Wowhead/MMOChampion ads used to do.
I reckon a lot of the people that got hacked had their account/passwords keylogged years ago, didn't know and so never changed the PW. They haven't played WoW in many years and so had nothing to steal before.
D3 comes out, and the hackers that have pages and pages of account//password just started working through them.
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Or that.
It's random. I've already found 2-3 level 60 legendaries, and some other lower level ones as well. They seem to drop quite often with 5/5 nephalim valour up. My 7 year old son found his first legendary the other day. He was so excited.
I did it on Normal and I was getting Nightmare Act 1 quality drops (including Jewelcrafting and Blacksmithing pages which aren't supposed to drop in Normal).
D3 isn't competitive. Don't feel like you need to keep up with the Joneses.
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for my WD, i don't think spirit walk and soul siphon will ever come off 1/2, and gargo will stay on 4 for the time being. i'm experimenting with extra damage on 3, or buff/control if in a group. in nm i'm liking locust swarm or acid cloud. splinters is my main attack for now, with grasp in the r-click.
does well all around. i've even been finding some good upgrades in nm act 1, up through SK. also, bought a new weapon, put a flawless ruby in it and it upped my DPS by 200 :shock:
Uh yeah..it's INFERNO.
No class is just "melting things". Even the supposed broken classes are either running away or kiting endlessly right now.
The point was to show that a Barbarian can solo Inferno to give some hope to people who felt that barbarians couldn't do it. Supposedly a couple other Barbs soloed it again today but I haven't found links to back that up yet.
And I'm sorry, but if you defeat the game, by yourself, on Inferno. You have Solo'ed Inferno. I don't think there is a caveat that requires you to also be able to kill any champ pack in the game. That would be more like "Trivialized Inferno" or something along those lines.
I mean it's 1.5 weeks after release and a guy just Solo'ed the hardest difficulty in the game. Considering how much whining there has been about the sheer effort that would take on a barb I think that's pretty damned impressive. There are people complaining they can barely get through Hell Act 2 on a barb and this guy went and got the gear, made a build, and beat the game.
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Am I reading this wrong or is Umbral Oath a low level legendary? like 30 dps.
I'm liking jumping spiders more and more for champ/elite packs in hell. Especially wallers.
Snake to the face is fun also, helps in groups and taking down some of the more annoying bigger mobs. Like those goddamn trees in act 1 that spread poison everywhere.
I really like soul siphon/spirit walk, but I don't like that they all but seem required. Seeing the soul siphon buff built into one of the passives somehow would be nice.
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"I kited my way to the last boss" is a pretty low bar for what you consider beating a game.
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This is my point too.
Are you running Sweeping Wind+Bladestorm and Breath of Heaven+Blazing Wrath? These are great ways to up your DPS. What's your skill build?
Like I said earlier, it's telegraphed by a green pool on the ground where his fists will come down. It'll give you about a second to get out of the way. Also, 11K DPS is absolutely NOT "crazy pills" for Act II Hell. And I most assuredly did not drop an absurd amount of money for a 600 DPS weapon. I'm using a 268 DPS dagger at the moment, which granted, is pretty high up there for a one-hander, but you can easily push yourself over at least 7.5K with a decent two-hander and decent gear that gives INT. Hope this helps.
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I know that... but when your primary gaming group is 10+ levels ahead of you, it's hard not to feel that way. Luckily my cousin and I have been sticking together thus far. We both have been playing alts and keeping our mains at the same level. It's nice.