My old man loves the Jack Reacher books, always telling me about them.
His disappointment over Tom Cruise playing his new favorite fictional character is painful. Its worse then when Harrison Ford replaced Alec Baldwin as Jack Ryan. Mathew McConaughey as Dirk Pitt was okay though.
But Alec Baldwin has never played a president
He played Jack Ryan, who eventually goes on to become President.
Nah, I think people here seriously overestimate how many books the average dude is actually familiar with.
For example, I still haven't met a single soul who's even heard of something like John Carter prior to the movie coming out, and not much has changed post release as well.
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John Carter isn't a familiar name to many, but it's not like nobody's heard of him. And Jack Reacher is familiar to millions and millions of people. So familiar that there was a great deal of what? surrounding Tom Cruise playing him, as he's a tiny little man and Jack Reacher is the size of a Mac truck.
I freakin love the Reacher books. And as CD stated, I am vomiting forth rage at that trailer. Really, it's just a series that shouldn't make the jump to film.
Robert Crais writes some books that would work really well however.
I freakin love the Reacher books. And as CD stated, I am vomiting forth rage at that trailer. Really, it's just a series that shouldn't make the jump to film.
Robert Crais writes some books that would work really well however.
From what I've heard, which is very little, there's nothing making a Jack Reacher movie or tv series impossible. The only reason the movie looks shitty is because Tom Cruise got his paws on it.
Casting is the big problem. Honestly, Jackman wouldn't have been right either. Better, but not right. Reacher's whole thing is that he's this freakishly strong inhuman, violent brute that turns out to also be incredibly intelligent. That and huge chunks of the book are internal dialogue. So either you have exposition ahoy, or you try to show not tell but that gets sketchy or you just breeze over it. I suppose, on reflection, another issue for mainstream moviegoers is that the stories actually tend to be pretty slow. Long stretches of procedural investigation punctuated by bursts of extreme violence. There are exceptions, but more often than not that's the case.
Casting is the big problem. Honestly, Jackman wouldn't have been right either. Better, but not right. Reacher's whole thing is that he's this freakishly strong inhuman, violent brute that turns out to also be incredibly intelligent. That and huge chunks of the book are internal dialogue. So either you have exposition ahoy, or you try to show not tell but that gets sketchy or you just breeze over it. I suppose, on reflection, another issue for mainstream moviegoers is that the stories actually tend to be pretty slow. Long stretches of procedural investigation punctuated by bursts of extreme violence. There are exceptions, but more often than not that's the case.
The Rock or Vin Diesel would have fit pretty well. But beyond that..I'm not sure who could feel like a beast and is also a good actor. (not that Dwayne or Vin are great actors or anything. But they make fun movies.)
And as for the internal dialogue, the easiest way would go for voice over, done via some sort of interrogation of him. Or some reporter, ala Interview with the Vampire.
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The Rock or Vin Diesel would have fit pretty well. But beyond that..I'm not sure who could feel like a beast and is also a good actor. (not that Dwayne or Vin are great actors or anything. But they make fun movies.)
I saw one guy suggest Joe Manganiello, who is 6'5" and a pretty good actor who hasn't really had any leading roles yet.
The Rock or Vin Diesel would have fit pretty well. But beyond that..I'm not sure who could feel like a beast and is also a good actor. (not that Dwayne or Vin are great actors or anything. But they make fun movies.)
I saw one guy suggest Joe Manganiello, who is 6'5" and a pretty good actor who hasn't really had any leading roles yet.
Kevin Durand would be my vote. Tom Hardy also, maybe. And yeah, Ray Stevenson is also awesome.
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edited July 2012
Hey guys, I'm from Hollywood and I hear your concerns about the Jack Reacher casting. Good news, we have replaced Tom Cruise with Taylor Kitsch, everyone's favourite film star!
I'll allow myself a little more restraint than Mr. Zeeny here, but yeah, that is a silly comment to make.
It was easily the best film of the year for me.
Really? You thought Winter's Bone was better than any of these: Inception, Social Network, Scott Pilgrim v The World, Easy A, Shutter Island, The A-Team, Tangled, Toy Story 3, or Black Swan.
Personally I thought the first 6 movies I listed up there were WAY better than Winter's Bone.
Yes.
Agreed. The only movies on that list that I liked were Inception, Toy Story 3, and Black Swan. Inception was cool, but a bit too nerdy and full of itself. Black Swan, similarly, was cool but a bit too artsy and full of itself, and also had some weird pacing issues. Toy Story 3 was brilliant but ultimately it's still a cartoon for children, and can't be fairly compared to a serious film like Winter's Bone.
Winter's Bone was probably the best film of 2010 for me, followed closely by True Grit. I liked Biutiful, Dogtooth, and Fish Tank as well (but those are all small foreign films and not really what we're talking about). Kind of a crappy movie year overall.
Casting Steve Zahn as a small, barrel-chested, darkhaired Italian was a travesty though ... I don't know who should have been Giordino, but Steve Zahn definitely wasn't it.
Also - I never heard of Jack Reacher either. Then again, that kind of Thriller book was never my genre. Haven't read a single one of Patterson either.
Casting Steve Zahn as a small, barrel-chested, darkhaired Italian was a travesty though ... I don't know who should have been Giordino, but Steve Zahn definitely wasn't it.
Also - I never heard of Jack Reacher either. Then again, that kind of Thriller book was never my genre. Haven't read a single one of Patterson either.
Not my thing in novels, either. I prefer fantasy and science fiction. That said, I would watch a faithful Jack Reacher movie.
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edited July 2012
I don't mind Cruise as an action star. I mean yes, he's 5'5 with or without the lifts, but with the lifts if he can get in the 5'7 range he's not that short, and it's a movie. If they can make Chris Evans look like he's 90 pounds in captain america, they can make Cruise look tall enough to kick someone's ass.
And that doesn't take into account that Tom Cruise is 50 and he could still probably kick the ass of most of the people in this thread. The guy looks like a 30 year old boxer, and he's 50.
edit: I'm reasonable, a 30 year old "lightweight" boxer
This movie just looks like good fun to me. I mean Russian Santa Claus played by Alec Baldwin? COME ON!
yeah it looks a good time. the previous trailer didn't convince me, but this one does.
I was sold on the previous trailer with Santa claus having naughty and nice tattooed on his forearms. It'll be hilarious when people complain that Santa Claus is russian considering thats always been his origin.
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This movie just looks like good fun to me. I mean Russian Santa Claus played by Alec Baldwin? COME ON!
yeah it looks a good time. the previous trailer didn't convince me, but this one does.
I was sold on the previous trailer with Santa claus having naughty and nice tattooed on his forearms. It'll be hilarious when people complain that Santa Claus is russian considering thats always been his origin.
russian? isn't he almost certainly based on this here this guy? (though technically even more based on the fictional dude based on that guy. also Odin)
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He was okay. But as a fan of the Cliver Cussler novels, the adaptation of Sahara wasn't all that good.
He played Jack Ryan, who eventually goes on to become President.
Nah, I think people here seriously overestimate how many books the average dude is actually familiar with.
For example, I still haven't met a single soul who's even heard of something like John Carter prior to the movie coming out, and not much has changed post release as well.
Or do like Bishop: "I'm taking the long view."
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No, not the boyband dude.
Robert Crais writes some books that would work really well however.
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...I hadnt heard of Jack Reacher either. And yes, said out loud? Such a porn name.
From what I've heard, which is very little, there's nothing making a Jack Reacher movie or tv series impossible. The only reason the movie looks shitty is because Tom Cruise got his paws on it.
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Sounds very similar to the Punisher.
Something like Drive for instance.
Tom Cruise is a good actor, so I'm willing to see how it goes.
And as for the internal dialogue, the easiest way would go for voice over, done via some sort of interrogation of him. Or some reporter, ala Interview with the Vampire.
I saw one guy suggest Joe Manganiello, who is 6'5" and a pretty good actor who hasn't really had any leading roles yet.
He's doing ok as Alcie(?) in True Blood.
My vote would be Ray Stevenson;
Alternately, Conan Stevens, thought that might be a step too far;
Either of em could effortlessly deliver the intimidating side of Reacher, but I dunno how they'd pull off the whole seduction thang. :P
Agreed. The only movies on that list that I liked were Inception, Toy Story 3, and Black Swan. Inception was cool, but a bit too nerdy and full of itself. Black Swan, similarly, was cool but a bit too artsy and full of itself, and also had some weird pacing issues. Toy Story 3 was brilliant but ultimately it's still a cartoon for children, and can't be fairly compared to a serious film like Winter's Bone.
Winter's Bone was probably the best film of 2010 for me, followed closely by True Grit. I liked Biutiful, Dogtooth, and Fish Tank as well (but those are all small foreign films and not really what we're talking about). Kind of a crappy movie year overall.
Fassbender was good as always, though.
Dogtooth was bizarre and I still don't know if I liked it or not. I need to watch it again.
Casting Steve Zahn as a small, barrel-chested, darkhaired Italian was a travesty though ... I don't know who should have been Giordino, but Steve Zahn definitely wasn't it.
Also - I never heard of Jack Reacher either. Then again, that kind of Thriller book was never my genre. Haven't read a single one of Patterson either.
Not my thing in novels, either. I prefer fantasy and science fiction. That said, I would watch a faithful Jack Reacher movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGQpwIoez1U
Which is weird, cause he had boatloads of both as Tim Riggins, at least in S1.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2C_WJ1v-JU
And that doesn't take into account that Tom Cruise is 50 and he could still probably kick the ass of most of the people in this thread. The guy looks like a 30 year old boxer, and he's 50.
edit: I'm reasonable, a 30 year old "lightweight" boxer
Edit: Listen, I'm not saying I'm a great fighter. But I could take out Tom Cruise by just falling on him.
Seems pretty spry.
This movie just looks like good fun to me. I mean Russian Santa Claus played by Alec Baldwin? COME ON!
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yeah it looks a good time. the previous trailer didn't convince me, but this one does.
I was sold on the previous trailer with Santa claus having naughty and nice tattooed on his forearms. It'll be hilarious when people complain that Santa Claus is russian considering thats always been his origin.
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russian? isn't he almost certainly based on this here this guy? (though technically even more based on the fictional dude based on that guy. also Odin)
I like my Santas russian though.