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[Diablo 3] - The Prettiest Snowflake Never Melts in Hell (Inferno, on the other hand...)

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  • SparserLogicSparserLogic Registered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    So, its bullshit that the Witch Doctor's basic attack spells scale up in cost when nobody else's does and his mana pool/regen doesn't scale up at all. Why the hell am I going OOM trying to kite stuff while the DH/WZ can run around spamming anything they want in their basic four and *generate* resources!?

    Switching to my WZ is literal night and day resource-wise, and don't get me started on pet scaling >:-|

    iirc correctly your mana pool and regen do scale up, just not at the same rate as the cost of some of your moves.

    If you are having issues with mana start slotting in more mana efficient moves and runes and start looking for mana regen gear.

    I have every possible mana efficiency rune slotted, passive and active. I've tried basically everything at this point and I'm just fed up with the entire mechanic.

  • milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    This shit with Athene is hilarious. I've heard that his "troll personality" is just to attract viewers, and that he's actually a really cool guy, and I can get behind that idea. I don't know the guy personally, but that sounds legit. But, when a guy intentionally acts like a dick, and intentionally draws in a crowd full of trolls and assholes, you have to expect that something like this is going to happen sooner or later.

  • wakkawawakkawa Registered User regular
    Jars wrote: »
    wizards don't use signature spells in a bunch of builds

    Which is just more bullshit. They have the resource generation to get away with what my WD would be useless in trying. Our spells are so freaking expensive and our generation is so piss poor I spend half my time OOM if I want do actually do any real damage beyond spitting some darts out.

    Hell and beyond you have to switch up the WD's playstyle. basically pick the 4 skills with the biggest cooldown for vision quest and spam dire bats or zombie bears:

    http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witch-doctor#fUQPTY!UWV!ccZbZZ

  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    MMMig wrote: »
    So I have a friend who wants to try out D3... if anyone has a spare guest pass.
    I can't wait for him to download 7 gigs, install, and get a connection error. ^__^


    If there aren't any left, that's fine. I've already received one guest pass from you fine folk for my brother, so many thanks already!

    Snagged my last one (unless I steal my brothers...hmm), check your PM's.

    You sir are a gentleman and a scholar!
    Unless you're a femme.. then you're a gentlewoman but still a scholar!

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    Witty signature comment goes here...

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  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    I mean

    It wouldn't be so awful if it wasn't for the fact that it is literally impossible to Wormhole Teleport through rocks and pebbles and small chasms. If there's something in the way, you die.

    Whoever programmed Teleport should be fired and burned.

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  • RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    Buddies wrote: »
    Roz wrote: »
    Frozenzen wrote: »
    The bees damage seems obviously tuned to the fact that it's really really easy to avoid it.

    Unless you are melee.

    Which is a problem.

    or jailed, or frozen, or walled....

    Also, any confirmation if the bee's attack can be dodged? I know the succubus's cant.

    The attack when they shoot bees? Yea, just get out of the way. They don't do it if you are in melee range, but you can expect them to do it if you are running up to them and aren't in it yet. Whenever they turn to me and I am not in their face, then I juke.

    I expect years of confusion related to this. By "dodge" I mean using the defensive passively ability "dodge" and not dodge as in "avoid this by moving out of the way."

  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    Chen wrote: »
    I mean

    It wouldn't be so awful if it wasn't for the fact that it is literally impossible to Wormhole Teleport through rocks and pebbles and small chasms. If there's something in the way, you die.

    Whoever programmed Teleport should be fired and burned.

    This! Why is Teleport inferior to leap?!

  • JoolanderJoolander Registered User regular
    Chen wrote: »
    I mean

    It wouldn't be so awful if it wasn't for the fact that it is literally impossible to Wormhole Teleport through rocks and pebbles and small chasms. If there's something in the way, you die.

    Whoever programmed Teleport should be fired and burned.

    in a similar fashion

    if Barbarian can leap over balconies and certain chasms and stuff

    why can't monk 7SS teleport to the same place? if there's ANYTHING in the way, he just stops at whatever obstacle. even a hole in the ground

  • mastmanmastman Registered User regular
    Bobble wrote: »
    I'd like an option on the AH search to say "bring me items that do NOT have the thorns modifier"

    haha, looking at my character sheet yesterday, I deal so much dmg to melee attackers. It's like 1200 something damage dealt to melee attackers.

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  • kraughmarkraughmar Kingston, ONRegistered User regular
    Yeah I have been really underwhelmed by Teleport on my wizard alt. Can't jump between rooms anymore, can't jump around corners, can't jump down stairs.. Maybe I needed to test it more, but slots are so tight I gave it up.

  • SorensonSorenson Registered User regular
    Chen wrote: »
    It wouldn't be so awful if it wasn't for the fact that it is literally impossible to Wormhole Teleport through rocks and pebbles and small chasms. If there's something in the way, you die.
    And let's not forget randomly teleporting backwards into the areas you're trying to leave. This is why I never use it except for speed-running on normal.

  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    So, its bullshit that the Witch Doctor's basic attack spells scale up in cost when nobody else's does and his mana pool/regen doesn't scale up at all. Why the hell am I going OOM trying to kite stuff while the DH/WZ can run around spamming anything they want in their basic four and *generate* resources!?

    Switching to my WZ is literal night and day resource-wise, and don't get me started on pet scaling >:-|

    iirc correctly your mana pool and regen do scale up, just not at the same rate as the cost of some of your moves.

    If you are having issues with mana start slotting in more mana efficient moves and runes and start looking for mana regen gear.

    I have every possible mana efficiency rune slotted, passive and active. I've tried basically everything at this point and I'm just fed up with the entire mechanic.

    I mean, there is no way you are running into mana issues if you are running Vision Quest, unless you are also specifically using the WD's super mana intensive attacks.

    That said its a pretty crap mechanic, but the WD is pretty much just a walking pile of crappy, buggy, nonsensical mechanics anyway.

  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    Auction durations reduced to 36 hours? nice

  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    wakkawa wrote: »
    Jars wrote: »
    wizards don't use signature spells in a bunch of builds

    Which is just more bullshit. They have the resource generation to get away with what my WD would be useless in trying. Our spells are so freaking expensive and our generation is so piss poor I spend half my time OOM if I want do actually do any real damage beyond spitting some darts out.

    Hell and beyond you have to switch up the WD's playstyle. basically pick the 4 skills with the biggest cooldown for vision quest and spam dire bats or zombie bears:

    http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witch-doctor#fUQPTY!UWV!ccZbZZ

    There are non-VQ builds that work just fine in Hell. Phantasm/haunt was quite fun for hell. For inferno rain of toads/life on hit seems to be just fine. The VQ builds also work well, just saying there are some options.

  • SorensonSorenson Registered User regular
    milk ducks wrote: »
    This shit with Athene is hilarious. I've heard that his "troll personality" is just to attract viewers, and that he's actually a really cool guy, and I can get behind that idea. I don't know the guy personally, but that sounds legit. But, when a guy intentionally acts like a dick, and intentionally draws in a crowd full of trolls and assholes, you have to expect that something like this is going to happen sooner or later.
    Unless said act is being done specifically to highlight just how shittastic and subhuman said behavior is ala Colbert, why should that be any kind of excuse? That's been bugging the hell out of me ever since it was first brought up.

  • JormungandrJormungandr Registered User regular
    Sorenson wrote: »
    And let's not forget randomly teleporting backwards into the areas you're trying to leave. This is why I never use it except for speed-running on normal.

    Yes! That's what finally removed it from my bar. It was just really annoying and random when that happened, and it happened just often enough that it was the straw that broke the camel's back. If there were no other issues with the skill, I'd be able to overlook it, but the skill was buggy enough it just wasn't worth it.

    If/when they fix some of the issues, it'd almost certainly go back on, but until then it's just a pain in the ass.

  • RandomEngyRandomEngy Registered User regular
    kraughmar wrote: »
    Yeah I have been really underwhelmed by Teleport on my wizard alt. Can't jump between rooms anymore, can't jump around corners, can't jump down stairs.. Maybe I needed to test it more, but slots are so tight I gave it up.

    When I saw the cooldown on the new Teleport I despaired. But then I started to really appreciate the Mirror Image skill and now I take Teleport with Fracture. I kind of think of it as Mirror Image with a rune to let you instantly move somewhere else on the battlefield before casting it. The cooldowns are such that you can chain it comfortably with Diamond Skin if you take Evocation. And even if you can't use it to get around the map quickly, it's fantastic for when you get jailed/vortexed/walled/pinned in by frost shards.

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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular

    Has anyone tried to buy their own auction back?

    Could this cause a singularity event on the already-taxed servers that would unfold the very fabric of heaven and hell?
    (which is apparently not so difficult)

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  • SorensonSorenson Registered User regular
    SHE"S UP, SERVER RUUUUUUUSH

  • BuddiesBuddies Registered User regular
    MMMig wrote: »
    Has anyone tried to buy their own auction back?

    Could this cause a singularity event on the already-taxed servers that would unfold the very fabric of heaven and hell?
    (which is apparently not so difficult)

    I've never seen my own auctions, even when searching for them. It's like they don't even exist to me.

  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Chen wrote: »
    I mean

    It wouldn't be so awful if it wasn't for the fact that it is literally impossible to Wormhole Teleport through rocks and pebbles and small chasms. If there's something in the way, you die.

    Whoever programmed Teleport should be fired and burned.

    So, teleport is like a Mage's blink?

  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    I would rather have 5 mirror images than a teleport because everything is going to close that gap instantly anyway

  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Buddies wrote: »
    MMMig wrote: »
    Has anyone tried to buy their own auction back?

    Could this cause a singularity event on the already-taxed servers that would unfold the very fabric of heaven and hell?
    (which is apparently not so difficult)

    I've never seen my own auctions, even when searching for them. It's like they don't even exist to me.

    Same.

  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    When does WD get fun? I'm level 9 and completely bored with the starting skill set. I feel so weak compared to my Monk and Wizard, who I had no problem at all leveling. WD just feels so mundane.

  • TOGSolidTOGSolid Drunk sailor Seattle, WashingtonRegistered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Jars wrote: »
    I would rather have 5 mirror images than a teleport because everything is going to close that gap instantly anyway

    I'm finding that it's best to combine the two. Mirror Image and then peace out with Teleport. Basically the Diablo 3 equivalent of popping countermeasures and doing an emergency blow.

    TOGSolid on
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  • YogoYogo Registered User regular
    EU servers must be shitting themselves. Can't make new games. Logged out and now I can't get past "Retrieve Hero List".

    Do.not.like.

  • RiokennRiokenn Registered User regular
    Can't wait to finish my staff when I get home...

    PONY LEVEL! I WILL COVER YOU IN BLOOD VERY SOOON!

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  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Still waiting for the Blizzard launcher to update.

  • LilnoobsLilnoobs Alpha Queue Registered User regular
    Rofl. And the AH is down.

  • sumwarsumwar Registered User regular
    How many days has the commodity auction house been down? This is getting ridiculous.

  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Lilnoobs wrote: »
    Rofl. And the AH is down.

    Man, you can't expect a patch to fix things.

    Patches ain't for fixin', they're for breakin'.

  • RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    _J_ wrote: »
    Lilnoobs wrote: »
    Rofl. And the AH is down.

    Man, you can't expect a patch to fix things.

    Patches ain't for fixin', they're for breakin'.

    The programmer's code.

  • CarbonFireCarbonFire See you in the countryRegistered User regular
    TOGSolid wrote: »
    Jars wrote: »
    I would rather have 5 mirror images than a teleport because everything is going to close that gap instantly anyway

    I'm finding that it's best to combine the two. Mirror Image and then peace out with Teleport. Basically the Diablo 3 equivalent of popping countermeasures and doing an emergency blow.

    Yeah, that seems to work pretty well.

    Plus with Wormhole (and some quick, precise clicking), you can Teleport FAR, FAR away (enough to de-aggro sometimes).

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  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Jars wrote: »
    I would rather have 5 mirror images than a teleport because everything is going to close that gap instantly anyway

    Not when you're dead and have a small window before you're resurrected to get the hell away from the invulnerable pack while your follower is busy distracting them. Right click Wormhole at the furthest of the screen, stuck between Teleports because an obstacle is stopping you in your tracks, pack notices you and comes at lightning speed to shit in your face again.

    Chen on
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  • ManetherenWolfManetherenWolf Registered User regular
    Prophet Theory
    I was under the assumption from the Enchantress dialog during Act IV, that the Prophet was the Itherael, Angel of Fate. Who better to set up a team of Mages in the past for an event to come in the future than the Angel who CAN SEE THE FUTURE. Plus he WAS one of the ones who sided for the humans out of the council.

    Seemed kind of obvious to me, but who knows.

  • BlendtecBlendtec Registered User regular
    Prophet Theory
    I was under the assumption from the Enchantress dialog during Act IV, that the Prophet was the Itherael, Angel of Fate. Who better to set up a team of Mages in the past for an event to come in the future than the Angel who CAN SEE THE FUTURE. Plus he WAS one of the ones who sided for the humans out of the council.

    Seemed kind of obvious to me, but who knows.
    The whole prophet thing is weird because I think only members on the Council can actually see the future, and only Itherael can see far into the future. Yet the enchantress says it was some random dying angel that set her and her sisters up centuries ago for it? It doesn't add up and Blizzard will end up retconning stuff later anyways.

  • CarbonFireCarbonFire See you in the countryRegistered User regular
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    When does WD get fun? I'm level 9 and completely bored with the starting skill set. I feel so weak compared to my Monk and Wizard, who I had no problem at all leveling. WD just feels so mundane.

    When frogs rain from the sky, and zombie bears burst from the earth.

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  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Did people notice that this latest patch took a while to update the blizzard launcher?

  • YogoYogo Registered User regular
    Blendtec wrote: »
    Prophet Theory
    I was under the assumption from the Enchantress dialog during Act IV, that the Prophet was the Itherael, Angel of Fate. Who better to set up a team of Mages in the past for an event to come in the future than the Angel who CAN SEE THE FUTURE. Plus he WAS one of the ones who sided for the humans out of the council.

    Seemed kind of obvious to me, but who knows.
    The whole prophet thing is weird because I think only members on the Council can actually see the future, and only Itherael can see far into the future. Yet the enchantress says it was some random dying angel that set her and her sisters up centuries ago for it? It doesn't add up and Blizzard will end up retconning stuff later anyways.
    She says that she doesn't know if the dying angel was the prophet himself or merely carrying the message for the prophet.

    Also, I found this nifty thing. Effective HP calculator:

    http://rubensayshi.github.com/d3-ehp-calculator/

  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    Chen wrote: »
    Jars wrote: »
    I would rather have 5 mirror images than a teleport because everything is going to close that gap instantly anyway

    Not when you're dead and have a small window before you're resurrected to get the hell away from the invulnerable pack while your follower is busy distracting them. Right click Wormhole at the furthest of the screen, stuck between Teleports because an obstacle is stopping you in your tracks, pack notices you and comes at lightning speed to shit in your face again.

    the choice is between mirror image and fracture

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